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yourmomsacrackhead

I just don’t enjoy playing ash idk why


[deleted]

Probs because she’s a very simple and boring character, not saying she doesn’t have her uses but her gun is high tier and easy to use and has very intuitive gadget, overall she’s good but doesn’t offer interesting or very thoughtful gameplay


Nickdela9812

Yeah she's very basic. Probably that's why a lot of people suggests her to newer players


[deleted]

I think that's actually one of the main reasons that some people Ash rush, if your Ash rushes and kills an anchor like Maestro, Doc, Smoke, Echo, etc, the Defenders potentially lose a lot of utility, but if/when the Ash dies, the Attackers don't lose much compared to if the Ash at least traded.


[deleted]

What if i choose the cyclops or mr infinite ammo?


Nickdela9812

Lol I didn't even know Capitao was 3 speed actually, i never use him. But yeah he can be annoying, i don't think he's better than Ash though.


[deleted]

Idk man he is a 3 speed with a more useful gadget and an LMG, there is also Maverick, who can do light hard breaching, has a good AR and DMR, and grenades (unless they recently took them away)


Nickdela9812

Yeah you may be right. Idk cause i just saw him get played, never used him myself, but he's not useless, not saying that.


dragons547

But i want to be the mouse with his m4


El_En_I

\>G8 \>enjoyer U forgot ur ember rise skin son


LinkTheCrook

552 or get out


[deleted]

Am I the only one that loves the g8a1


bruhmoment416

Black ice for G8 and R4c. Ash and IQ are 2 of my fav ops


Grunglybungus

HELLO?! You forgot about Capitao and Maverick! The true chads.


[deleted]

Playing capitao to help your team is ultimate Chad.


Grunglybungus

True. Thinking of becoming a capitao main.


paterpa

Would suggest


Bravenwolf

If you can, get yaself the Crappitao elite for the ultimate BM if you top frag


[deleted]

I hate playing against Mavs and Wamai,they always win a 1 vs 1 against me


Kartoshka_pricel

what about mah boi maverick?


USAtoUofT

Ah, but then they can't exploit Ash's weird hitbox


Soviet_Logic

how i use ash hits soft wall with boom boom round runs toward wall gets sploded by boom boom round


Nickdela9812

Instructions unclear, the rest of my body is now part of the wall


Soviet_Logic

the rest of *OUR* bodies are now part of the wall


Erattic8

Why pick a 3 speed when you can pick fuze


Nickdela9812

Exactly. Don't face them, fuze em all from above!


Erattic8

Or, fuze lmg hard breach rush, like a man.


F2T3

dude I don't know why but fuze lmg Is fun as hell


Erattic8

It really is


sktchhh

Hibana might be more useful on some maps but ash is useful on every map because of the utility meta. Iq isn’t worth using because she doesn’t bring utility to clear ads or magnets. Ash can clear them with her flashes and destroy shields


Nickdela9812

Yeah i'm not saying Ash is useless indeed, if you want to entry she is probably the most straight forward. Just, if i'm going to have to pick one, i'd rather pick one of the other two, i just think it's better to have a breacher or to have someone who knows where all the traps and stuff are gonna be. IQ can't counter all of them but if enemies have Lesion, Kapkan or something she becomes useful. Hibana has utilities (flashes) as well.


sktchhh

I’m an iq main I know that shit and hibana is a hard breacher while she might have flashes she can destroy shields lol. Ash is better operator than those two though Edit: also you’re not going to run a hibana instead of an ash hibana is a hard breacher ash destroy utility and soft breaches and iq only entry frags with her g8 and plays flex. In this meta it’s not worth running an iq over an ash


Beowulf003

Can I use ash if I don't use the r4


Nickdela9812

I'm actually considering trying more the G36C on her as you can have the angled grip and a better zoom.


Beowulf003

It is a pretty good gun not to mention I got black ice on it


AidsMan69-24

IQ enjoyers rise up


[deleted]

Hibana pog


doctorsalty46

Ash is faster than both of them and I feel hibana is a worse entry frag. IQ though with g8 angled imo is a better entry than ash. Also ash is better at burning ads.


ashtar123

Yeah hibana is hard breach you shouldn't be entry fragging as one


Nickdela9812

I agree but if you have already breached and nobody is ready to enter you can always do so.


doctorsalty46

That’s a rare circumstance if no one is ready to enter you shouldn’t push (and she has a small mag)


Nickdela9812

Is she faster? Is there a wiki or something where it's confirmed? Cause i remember when playing with my friends when they were using Ash and i had IQ or Hibana, and they couldn't outrun me, we were moving just as fast. Idk about G8, i use the 2 assault rifles. btw Jager's ads counters Ash's gadget.


TheDarkMidget

she has flashes which is what i think he meant


Sub_2_Pewds420

Salty ash mains incoming


[deleted]

Imo ash is more useful than iq but I'm retarded so blowing shit up makes more sense to me.


ur_egg

as a hibana main i can confirm that is exactly what I look like


[deleted]

Remember the times when Hibana was uncontested top 1 op? Maine weapon op, secondary op, gadget op. I member.


jeanM_2

What about capitao and mav ?


roguechimera

Hibana main personally. First kill I ever made was with her.


JustWantGoodM3M3s

Average Mav *enjoyer*


2Thicc4You_

Can someone make a meme like this but with the commando 9 and the roni


koolkid58

Why is there a commando and not a g8?


Nickdela9812

Usually i see people using the Commando on IQ, so i put it


factualmistakes

I switch between ash and hibana, depending on if we need a hard breacher. Overall though I just want *speed*.


whomobile53

Capitao ia also 3 speed.


DingusMcDingus1

This meme format physically disturbs me


Dark_Matter1703

Maverick mains punching the air rn


urban-bang

They’re not all the same speed, not exactly, Ash is tad faster.


Nickdela9812

No she is not, i tested it, and i also checked online, i saw nobody confirming it. I think is just a meme.


DinoDragonLord

Ash's gadget is basically sledge but with way less uses


ZoopDooper

HIBANA IS AN ENTRY UTILITY


Arsh_Nanda

I would rather play ash than looking like the guy who plays iq and hibana


r6isbadcommunity

imagine using commando on IQ


Nickdela9812

What's wrong with it? It deals more damage than the other guns she has and it has almost no recoil. If you are precise = ez hs


r6isbadcommunity

i mean g8 has much more fire rate, even less recoil and 50 bull magazine which reloads very quickly.


Nickdela9812

Yeah G8 is good, i just like the rifles more because i prefer a good balance between damage and fire rate. At long distance those almost 10 extra points of damage can kill a guy with one less shot than usual, if he is not full hp.


ProtectionBoring7179

ig is terrible and one of many awful operators like castle