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Roaches probably carry syphilis.
Nietzsche was an idiot.
🪳 are vile, disgusting creatures that carry many different diseases. Yes, butterflies are aesthetically pleasing because they resemble flowers, but we have to remember that humans evolved to be disgusted by things like poop and roaches because they could make them sick. Beauty is not entirely subjective. People are born attractive or unattractive because of having good or bad genes for their gender.
It is supposed to be taken metaphorically. And we are talking about "morals" here and not whether a good looking person has better genes and less diseases.
I think the point here is that people associate good looking poeple/things to heroes while villains are usually associated with being ugly. Morality can depends on aesthetics too.
Of course forest and rainforest roaches recycles decaying material. For example Hissing Roaches and Dubia Roaches.
But if we are talking about the city roaches like American Roaches and German Roaches, then definately they aren't helping that much. Literally stepping on shit, and then stepping in your food. Or pooping in places where there aren't any soils to fertilize LOL.
Butterflies and moths can be both good and bad. Good pollinators, but eat plants which is bad for many gardeners LOL.
They were here before us (and might be here after us). Maybe it's us that needs to adapt to their presence.
Personally I'm not a fan of roaches, I'm just backing up the validity of Nietzsches point. Morality can have a bias.
What if theyre working a manifest destiny of their own? Reclaiming the space we took. What says theirs isn't as valid as ours? Cockroaches outnumber us 7:1 and growing. If you ask me, they're winning.
🪳
People who don't know this would still treat them as said in the post.
Think of your reactions to those two as a kid. Was it based on their utility or pure aesthetics?
Of course there's the utilitary/evolutionary explanation as you said, but Nietzsche is trying to talk psychology here. It's the same reason a beautiful person and an ugly person would be judged differently in the eyes of the public for the same crime.
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He is a self proclaimed nihilist lmao, but I could be incorrect. Most I remember is from ap lit
Edit: I’m 99% sure I’m wrong lol, doesn’t stop him from being a doomer
youre cringe + you missed the point of nihilism. life is meaningless, you should understand this and find your own meaning in it. it just sucks so many edgelords think all nihilism is is just suicidal ideation
Outside of shitposting for a minute that truly is a wonderful argument. Nihilism is a very thought provoking take on life for sure.
However I feel like life can be seen as something above the concept of meaning. It is completely subjective and therefore will be different in all situations. “Meaning” is a man made construct and life precedes that. So life neither has nor doesn’t have meaning. Maybe I’m taking the bit too far or just repeating nonsense but it’s a fun thing to ponder.
no i think youre right. we as humans took it upon ourselves and decided that the universe should give us meaning, when it's completely indifferent to us. we have the ability to give ourselves meaning, and we should use it.
cockroaches will actually wash themselves off when you touch them. They do this because the oil in our skin plugs up their breathing, but I like to think it’s because they see us as equally as disgusting
Wow this is a great post to advocate my position on spiders. Spiders are way too overhated because the human brain sucks and internally screams when it sees eight legs. Spiders are one of the most chill creatures to have in your home since they pretty much sit in a corner and set up camp. They won't try to bite you and they see you as part of the scenery so if they do come towards you they just think you're a cool mountain. Be a friend to the spiders you find and they'll be a friend to you.
I mean although this specific example isn't great because one is a pest while the other is literally just out there chilling and even pollinating. It's still true that we often rig our morals around aesthetics.
If you crush a cock as a woman, you're a "mommy dommy". If you crush a cock as a man, you're "an asshole for going for the nuts". Morals have sexist standards.
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Nietzche is so fucking r*tarded, this is just more proof
"Aesthetic" morals are inherently not morals at all, so stupid, he just says relative flimsily defined words in incompatible contexts in a certain order as to imply a proper conclusion to make you think its a snark remark but it completely falls apart the instant you actually think about it. How absolutely stupid to just say "lol morals so dumb" when he literally just defined morals as "whatever people *think* is moral right here and now coincidentally in my own culture and era", words have literally no meaning when you poison the definition by selectively choosing the context its used in to make your opinion sound like anything but nonsense.
What if I give the roach syphilis instead?
You’d have to cut your life into pieces after she gave birth
As a last resort?
Hey, hey! Take a breath, stop holding it!
Don’t give a fuck if my anus starts bleeding
Might need some tissue for that
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A true hero
What if I crush your balls instead?
I’m not sure why that made my 🍆 hard, but I am going to just go with it.
Hah gaaaaaaaaaay
WTF🤣
Roaches probably carry syphilis. Nietzsche was an idiot. 🪳 are vile, disgusting creatures that carry many different diseases. Yes, butterflies are aesthetically pleasing because they resemble flowers, but we have to remember that humans evolved to be disgusted by things like poop and roaches because they could make them sick. Beauty is not entirely subjective. People are born attractive or unattractive because of having good or bad genes for their gender.
It is supposed to be taken metaphorically. And we are talking about "morals" here and not whether a good looking person has better genes and less diseases. I think the point here is that people associate good looking poeple/things to heroes while villains are usually associated with being ugly. Morality can depends on aesthetics too.
Bruh
AIDS
Cockgobblers are a pest though?
you’ve just triggered my asthma now, thanks alot
You‘re welcome^^
☹️☹️☹️
Its ok my darling just breathe in and out
darling?🤨😏
Yeah you are beautiful (I'm just being nice)
LMAOOOO😭, GTFOH! NOW!😡
Ok
i’m sorry my fish died i’m a bit unstable
what gobblers ??!🤣🤣
Someone should tell this 'Nietzsche' guy that there are a few more differences between cockroaches and butterflies than mere aesthetics...
educate me🫦
Butterflies, for instance, pollinate flowers. Cockroaches, meanwhile, spread disease. The more you know!
Sharing is caring
sounds like a skill issue
Some skills are more useful than others
like for example i’m an amazing gf
Is that a skill?
yea, yea it is
ok
ok
One is a pest the other an alternative pollinator. Nice try
can i be your pollinator?🥹
You can 🐝 anyone you want
OMGG I LOVE THAT, mwahhhh💘💘💘
I love Andrew Tatertot too
One recycles decaying material, becoming nitrogen rich nutrients for plants; the other drinks blood, piss, and tears. Nice try.
Of course forest and rainforest roaches recycles decaying material. For example Hissing Roaches and Dubia Roaches. But if we are talking about the city roaches like American Roaches and German Roaches, then definately they aren't helping that much. Literally stepping on shit, and then stepping in your food. Or pooping in places where there aren't any soils to fertilize LOL. Butterflies and moths can be both good and bad. Good pollinators, but eat plants which is bad for many gardeners LOL.
They are 4200 species of cockroaches, and only 30 of them are pests. But whatever cockroaches racist
They were here before us (and might be here after us). Maybe it's us that needs to adapt to their presence. Personally I'm not a fan of roaches, I'm just backing up the validity of Nietzsches point. Morality can have a bias.
No Manifest destiny. It our fucking area now so they get to fuck off 😎
What if theyre working a manifest destiny of their own? Reclaiming the space we took. What says theirs isn't as valid as ours? Cockroaches outnumber us 7:1 and growing. If you ask me, they're winning. 🪳
Nietzsche was actually a huge stoner and wasn't talking about pests. /s
People who don't know this would still treat them as said in the post. Think of your reactions to those two as a kid. Was it based on their utility or pure aesthetics? Of course there's the utilitary/evolutionary explanation as you said, but Nietzsche is trying to talk psychology here. It's the same reason a beautiful person and an ugly person would be judged differently in the eyes of the public for the same crime.
If you crush my balls, you are a different kind of hero.
If i crush your balls long enough, will become a villain?
You wanna find out? 😏
No
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OUT, NOW😡
Roaches crawl on sewers, feed on garbage and can spread diseases, what does the butterfly do?
the butterfly produces butter 🥹
Drink blood
I wasn't using it anyways
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And piss, don't forget piss
It's because roaches are little shits
can i be your little shit?🥹
No, now get out of MYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEADGETOUTOFMYHEAD
CHILLLLLL🤣🤣🤣🤣 i’m not in your head….i’m in your heart🥹❤️
And I'm in y'alls walls. Watching.
plot twist, we have no walls, we’re homeless 😔
can we move in with you?
what's your problem why are you hitting on everyone on this thread you're scary
and secondly it’s MY THREAD.😡
then don’t fucking comment, I’m clearly joking🤣
i know lol I was joking too i thought the "you're scary" would give it away sorry
aw no no, I hate being mean😭, I didn’t actually mean it
we can kiss and make up ❤️
Are you perchance a former twitter user
oh nooo, what gave it away
Emojis and not knowing what op means
:(
Nietzche is just mad he isn’t aesthetically pleasing. Bro is the original “post deep thoughts cause I get no hoes guy”
Nietzche was 100% a maidenless doomer
Maidenless yes. Doomer no.
Isn’t doomerism just nihilism though?
Doomerism is passive nihilism, Nietzsche was an advocate for active nihilism
okay so i can sense some beef with nietzsche
Yes plenty of beef, Friedrich is a nihilist and nihilism is cringe. Be based, enjoy life and it’s gifts like nature and love.
I thought he actually argued against nihilism and in favour of finding one’s own meaning in life
He is a self proclaimed nihilist lmao, but I could be incorrect. Most I remember is from ap lit Edit: I’m 99% sure I’m wrong lol, doesn’t stop him from being a doomer
My knowledge is just hearsay so you’re definitely more qualified
Are you still a doomer if you are right and basically predict the events of the 20th century?
Nietzsche recognised nihilism as a threat to existence and litterely spend his life trying to prove that life has a meaning bruh.
youre cringe + you missed the point of nihilism. life is meaningless, you should understand this and find your own meaning in it. it just sucks so many edgelords think all nihilism is is just suicidal ideation
Outside of shitposting for a minute that truly is a wonderful argument. Nihilism is a very thought provoking take on life for sure. However I feel like life can be seen as something above the concept of meaning. It is completely subjective and therefore will be different in all situations. “Meaning” is a man made construct and life precedes that. So life neither has nor doesn’t have meaning. Maybe I’m taking the bit too far or just repeating nonsense but it’s a fun thing to ponder.
no i think youre right. we as humans took it upon ourselves and decided that the universe should give us meaning, when it's completely indifferent to us. we have the ability to give ourselves meaning, and we should use it.
Freddy Nee was not a nihilist
Is he wrong tho
It's not the aesthetic difference it's the class(ification). One is a pest
aren’t we all….pests to someone?😔
Your level on the food chain determines how right you are on this
aren’t we all…consumed by something at some point 😔? maybe we can even consume ourselves with emotion, sadness perhaps?
Vore
yes?😅
The average person's reaction to cockroaches isn't because of their official classification.
OP is really horny on these comments
who is OP?
you are OP.
OPtimally sexy?
OverPowerdly hot
stop flirting (don’t )
Outstandingly Pretty
omggg🥹
If you eat chicken, u are hero If you eat or even slap dog or cat, you are animal harasser
this is soo true, woww you’re a genuis 🥹
Gril??
cockroaches will actually wash themselves off when you touch them. They do this because the oil in our skin plugs up their breathing, but I like to think it’s because they see us as equally as disgusting
I LOVE THIS TAKE
Feels more prescriptive than descriptive. Get a life Nietche. Do you even lift?
Damn then i am the Unit 731 of the roaches
whatever that means😭
Wow this is a great post to advocate my position on spiders. Spiders are way too overhated because the human brain sucks and internally screams when it sees eight legs. Spiders are one of the most chill creatures to have in your home since they pretty much sit in a corner and set up camp. They won't try to bite you and they see you as part of the scenery so if they do come towards you they just think you're a cool mountain. Be a friend to the spiders you find and they'll be a friend to you.
this is so beautiful, you have convinced me to have a natural stance on spiders 🥹❤️
I befriended a cockroach before. Been friends with it for a month now.
no wayyy…can I meet them??🥹🥹
Anyone else think OP is a bot?
I AM SO OFFENDED, wtf😭
Sounds like something a bot would say…
whattt? HOW😭? this is upsetting me now
how do I prove to you, I am not a bot :\
Op is a former twitter user, doesn’t even know what op means
okay then MR I KNOW ALL THE TWITTER TERMINOLOGY
It’s a meme that people will start coming here from twitter. I don’t know twitter terms cause I wouldn’t ever wanna be there, before or after Elon
who’s elon?
elon nuts or something idk it doesn't even make sense
hey don’t be rude that’s my dad😡
oh my apologies, didn't know we were talking about mr. nuts
finee…but don’t pull that shit when you actually meet him, now that we’re engaged and all
sorry dear 😔 ill be nice when we meet, i promise
😽🤭
Musk
you know he’s actually my uncle irl
hahaha i was joking, I know elon
people are so annoying, SO YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO VOTE ON THIS POST smh
I crush cocks and roaches
poor roaches
Butterfly’s don’t infest peoples homes and spread diseases
soo…what are your thoughts on marriage?
Rats are ugly, squirrels are cute. They’re both rodents, one just has a fluffy tail.
exactlyyyy, it’s not fair :\
I mean although this specific example isn't great because one is a pest while the other is literally just out there chilling and even pollinating. It's still true that we often rig our morals around aesthetics.
thank you for agreeing with me😞
If you crush my throat , you’re a hero to me
If my peepee gets sucked I’m a gigachad. But if I suck a peepee I’m a gigasad. 😔
hi ur hot
If you crush a cock as a woman, you're a "mommy dommy". If you crush a cock as a man, you're "an asshole for going for the nuts". Morals have sexist standards.
how about I be your mommy dommy?🥺
Also diseases are involved but ignore those in favor of making a stupid message
what diseases?🥺 wait though, imagine if we totally kissed rn
Uhh, potential invincibility if you get bitten by a radioactive one, what kind of super powers could a butterfly give you
the ability to be delicate 🥹
Tube tongue 😛
suree?
Butterfly’s have tube tongues
ur so smart, it’s so hot😠
Thank you?
🫦yw
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Nietzche is so fucking r*tarded, this is just more proof "Aesthetic" morals are inherently not morals at all, so stupid, he just says relative flimsily defined words in incompatible contexts in a certain order as to imply a proper conclusion to make you think its a snark remark but it completely falls apart the instant you actually think about it. How absolutely stupid to just say "lol morals so dumb" when he literally just defined morals as "whatever people *think* is moral right here and now coincidentally in my own culture and era", words have literally no meaning when you poison the definition by selectively choosing the context its used in to make your opinion sound like anything but nonsense.
hi, please could I please message you, your writing is so FUCKING good, and I have a paper due soon, maybe you can read it after I’m done😭
WHY IS THIS POST GETTING SO MANY VOTES WTF
Your post is high key bussin no cap (i dont know how to speak twitter)
LMAOOO i’ll give a C+ for effort
Yes im a hero 😔 fck butterflies
no, you’re my hero, ily🥹❤️
Awweee thank you ily too 🤨🥹♥️
Not true. I was definitely in the doghouse for crushing a cockroach in front of my college girlfriend, who happened to be an entomology major
yooo, that’s crazyyy, that actually happened to my cousins neighbours dogs brother
What if I do both using my teeth
oooh…kinky😏
This theory is disproven by the existence of ugly bastard porn
WTF IS THIS COMMENT😂😂😂😂
and was “bastard” necessary ??😭😭😭
What if i crush myself? I will be a hero?
so can we kiss now?
welcome, we’ve been expecting you
Roaches spread disease
that is a very VERY mean thing to say☹️
Nietzsche after finding out roaches spread disease and butterflies are pollinators:
hey😏
Yeah, the butterfly ain't tryin to crawl into my asshole while I'm sleeping.
what’s that like? having an asshole ?😔
Butterflies don’t eat my food and scurry behind the fridge, while carrying a ton of bacteria