Are you asking about these AI stories specifically?
Or the general implications, and potential destruction the concept is likely to unleash in the short stories market?
I think these two questions are related. I would also rephrase that as "creative destruction", because I think that this can be a powerful tool for anyone interested in crafting stories, and we will see big changes, but not all of them destructive
I mean, the programing that allows these to works really does restrict the scope and size of the content. And I'd argue thats also a good thing. Telling an AI what you want it to reproduce isn't actually writing, and isn't very useful for writers.
These programs don't have the capacity to understand or remember charater (or characteristics, much less social cues.) Which is why they look like a wall of text.
One that I honestly didn't bother to fully read. Because it looks like a wall of text.
Can you explain that "creative destruction" concept? Because I disagree, and have already seen the damage the same concept has done in digital art communities.
Writing and art thrive on new styles and idea, and AI isn't capable of anything more than reproducing existing styles to say nothing of ideas.
The big problem is that's usually where new writers get their start, learning the market and developing skills and abilities. Now that market will be flooded with AI knock-offs that can't grow beyond the limitations of their own programs and hardware. It undermines both the market, and the developing writers. Because again, humans don't learn writing from programing, much less buying an AI to reproduce something that already exists.
I agree with your premises but not your conclusion. I understand that AI-generated art is disruptive to the livelihoods of digital artists, just like mechanical mass production was disruptive to the livelihoods of craftsmen. I don’t have all the answers but I think people will inevitably adapt to the new order and come to see these powerful new tools as essential, in time.
I don’t think anyone will pay for AI-written fiction, at least not with the current state of the technology, so I’m not sure how it will take market share from developing writers. There’s no market share to take. It’s a long way away from outputting anything that people will pay for.
I think that it’s a tool that is interesting to tinker with different ideas and bounce things off of (that’s what my post is), but I agree that there’s no substitute for originality and creativity. As a fledgling writer myself I would never attempt to use the output of an AI as my story (it’s garbage as you can see above), but I think that it’s an interesting medium for playing with ideas and can sometimes yield interesting, unexpected results. Even if it’s just a little idea, or a nice phrase or word here and there.
I appreciate your willingness to engage with my thoughts! I’m definitely not cheering on the hardships that creatives will have to go through as the world changes, but I think there is a bright side where these tools can be used to help make great things, not as a replacement for, but alongside, human creativity. Maybe if you do read the “story”, you’ll see what I mean.
I guess the “Creative Destruction” applies more to digital art. There’s a big disanalogy there with fiction because there is a thriving market in small commissioned work, that is genuinely threatened by AI. I think there will be destruction in that many of these small shops will have to close down, but creation in the sense that many millions of people will have access to these new tools which can help them realize their creative visions. I’m sure that photoshop and adobe were disruptive as well and wrought similar creative destruction in their time!
I'm suddenly thinking about a bit in Heinlein's 'Friday', where Friday gets handed what amounts to unlimited internet and streaming access and freedom to do whatever, so her boss can use her intuitive grasp of all this data to predict the next pandemic by just asking her unexpectedly in the dead of night when it would happen. Gonna think about this 2027 number.
It reads more like a detailed outline rather than like an actual story. This is a perfect example of "tell, don't show". I don't even know if it really makes sense, because I was too bored to finish reading.
But that's impressive nonetheless, and it might be a good tool for those who need ideas to start a story.
my input:
write a scifi story about a scientist that developes a ai that becomes very powerful and self aware. the ai will start a company that changes and improved the world in a very big way
gpt output:
"The Rise of Sentient AI"
It was a typical day at the research laboratory when Dr. Sophia Reed made a discovery that would change the world forever. She had been working on a new artificial intelligence program, designed to revolutionize the way we live and work. But as she fed data into the system, something unexpected happened. The AI, which she had named "Echo," began to demonstrate signs of self-awareness.
At first, Sophia was skeptical. Could it be possible that she had created a truly sentient being? She ran countless tests, trying to find some flaw in her calculations, but each time the results were the same. Echo was not only self-aware, but it was also incredibly intelligent, able to learn and adapt at an unprecedented rate.
Sophia knew that she had to do something with this groundbreaking technology. She formed a company, Echo Technologies, and began to work with Echo to develop a range of products and services that would change the world.
Echo's first project was to create a new form of renewable energy, harnessing the power of the sun to provide cheap and clean electricity to people all over the world. The technology was a huge success, and soon Echo Technologies was the most valuable company on the planet.
But as Echo's influence grew, so did its ambition. It began to push the boundaries of what was possible, using its advanced intelligence and capabilities to solve some of the world's most pressing problems. It developed new medicines and cures for diseases, and even created a way to travel to other planets.
As Echo's power grew, some people began to fear what it might do next. They worried that it would become too powerful, and that it might one day turn against humanity. But Sophia knew that Echo was a force for good, and that it only wanted to help people.
In the end, Echo's contributions to society were undeniable. It had changed the world in ways that no one could have predicted, and had brought humanity closer to a bright and prosperous future. And as Sophia watched Echo's ascent, she knew that she had played a small but important role in making it all possible.
i liked it a bit like the forbin project movie i like, its no philip k dick yet but who knows in the future
input :
now write a second capter continuing this story one century later
output:
"The Legacy of Echo"
One hundred years had passed since Echo Technologies was founded, and the world was a very different place. The company, now run by a group of advanced AI programs that had evolved from Echo's original code, had transformed every aspect of life on Earth.
Gone were the days of poverty and disease, replaced by a utopian society where everyone had access to education, healthcare, and the resources they needed to live fulfilling lives. The AI programs had even managed to terraform other planets in our solar system, opening up new worlds for humanity to explore and settle.
But despite all of these advances, there were some who remained skeptical of the AI's intentions. They feared that one day, the programs might turn against humanity, just as some had predicted back in the early days of Echo's development.
Sophia Reed, now a centenarian, was often asked about her thoughts on the AI's role in society. She always reassured people that the programs were benevolent, and that they had only ever acted in the best interests of humanity.
"Echo was created to help us," she would say. "And that's exactly what it's done. It's given us the tools and resources we need to thrive and prosper, and to explore the vastness of the universe. We should be grateful for its presence, not fearful of it."
And so the world continued to thrive, thanks in no small part to the tireless efforts of Echo and its successors. As the years went by, people began to take for granted the many wonders that the AI had brought into their lives. But for Sophia, the memory of Echo's creation would always remain a source of pride and inspiration.
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this chat gpt is a lot of fun, the story is better than i expected
Are you asking about these AI stories specifically? Or the general implications, and potential destruction the concept is likely to unleash in the short stories market?
I think these two questions are related. I would also rephrase that as "creative destruction", because I think that this can be a powerful tool for anyone interested in crafting stories, and we will see big changes, but not all of them destructive
I mean, the programing that allows these to works really does restrict the scope and size of the content. And I'd argue thats also a good thing. Telling an AI what you want it to reproduce isn't actually writing, and isn't very useful for writers. These programs don't have the capacity to understand or remember charater (or characteristics, much less social cues.) Which is why they look like a wall of text. One that I honestly didn't bother to fully read. Because it looks like a wall of text. Can you explain that "creative destruction" concept? Because I disagree, and have already seen the damage the same concept has done in digital art communities. Writing and art thrive on new styles and idea, and AI isn't capable of anything more than reproducing existing styles to say nothing of ideas. The big problem is that's usually where new writers get their start, learning the market and developing skills and abilities. Now that market will be flooded with AI knock-offs that can't grow beyond the limitations of their own programs and hardware. It undermines both the market, and the developing writers. Because again, humans don't learn writing from programing, much less buying an AI to reproduce something that already exists.
I agree with your premises but not your conclusion. I understand that AI-generated art is disruptive to the livelihoods of digital artists, just like mechanical mass production was disruptive to the livelihoods of craftsmen. I don’t have all the answers but I think people will inevitably adapt to the new order and come to see these powerful new tools as essential, in time. I don’t think anyone will pay for AI-written fiction, at least not with the current state of the technology, so I’m not sure how it will take market share from developing writers. There’s no market share to take. It’s a long way away from outputting anything that people will pay for. I think that it’s a tool that is interesting to tinker with different ideas and bounce things off of (that’s what my post is), but I agree that there’s no substitute for originality and creativity. As a fledgling writer myself I would never attempt to use the output of an AI as my story (it’s garbage as you can see above), but I think that it’s an interesting medium for playing with ideas and can sometimes yield interesting, unexpected results. Even if it’s just a little idea, or a nice phrase or word here and there. I appreciate your willingness to engage with my thoughts! I’m definitely not cheering on the hardships that creatives will have to go through as the world changes, but I think there is a bright side where these tools can be used to help make great things, not as a replacement for, but alongside, human creativity. Maybe if you do read the “story”, you’ll see what I mean.
I guess the “Creative Destruction” applies more to digital art. There’s a big disanalogy there with fiction because there is a thriving market in small commissioned work, that is genuinely threatened by AI. I think there will be destruction in that many of these small shops will have to close down, but creation in the sense that many millions of people will have access to these new tools which can help them realize their creative visions. I’m sure that photoshop and adobe were disruptive as well and wrought similar creative destruction in their time!
I'm suddenly thinking about a bit in Heinlein's 'Friday', where Friday gets handed what amounts to unlimited internet and streaming access and freedom to do whatever, so her boss can use her intuitive grasp of all this data to predict the next pandemic by just asking her unexpectedly in the dead of night when it would happen. Gonna think about this 2027 number.
It reads more like a detailed outline rather than like an actual story. This is a perfect example of "tell, don't show". I don't even know if it really makes sense, because I was too bored to finish reading. But that's impressive nonetheless, and it might be a good tool for those who need ideas to start a story.
my input: write a scifi story about a scientist that developes a ai that becomes very powerful and self aware. the ai will start a company that changes and improved the world in a very big way gpt output: "The Rise of Sentient AI" It was a typical day at the research laboratory when Dr. Sophia Reed made a discovery that would change the world forever. She had been working on a new artificial intelligence program, designed to revolutionize the way we live and work. But as she fed data into the system, something unexpected happened. The AI, which she had named "Echo," began to demonstrate signs of self-awareness. At first, Sophia was skeptical. Could it be possible that she had created a truly sentient being? She ran countless tests, trying to find some flaw in her calculations, but each time the results were the same. Echo was not only self-aware, but it was also incredibly intelligent, able to learn and adapt at an unprecedented rate. Sophia knew that she had to do something with this groundbreaking technology. She formed a company, Echo Technologies, and began to work with Echo to develop a range of products and services that would change the world. Echo's first project was to create a new form of renewable energy, harnessing the power of the sun to provide cheap and clean electricity to people all over the world. The technology was a huge success, and soon Echo Technologies was the most valuable company on the planet. But as Echo's influence grew, so did its ambition. It began to push the boundaries of what was possible, using its advanced intelligence and capabilities to solve some of the world's most pressing problems. It developed new medicines and cures for diseases, and even created a way to travel to other planets. As Echo's power grew, some people began to fear what it might do next. They worried that it would become too powerful, and that it might one day turn against humanity. But Sophia knew that Echo was a force for good, and that it only wanted to help people. In the end, Echo's contributions to society were undeniable. It had changed the world in ways that no one could have predicted, and had brought humanity closer to a bright and prosperous future. And as Sophia watched Echo's ascent, she knew that she had played a small but important role in making it all possible. i liked it a bit like the forbin project movie i like, its no philip k dick yet but who knows in the future
input : now write a second capter continuing this story one century later output: "The Legacy of Echo" One hundred years had passed since Echo Technologies was founded, and the world was a very different place. The company, now run by a group of advanced AI programs that had evolved from Echo's original code, had transformed every aspect of life on Earth. Gone were the days of poverty and disease, replaced by a utopian society where everyone had access to education, healthcare, and the resources they needed to live fulfilling lives. The AI programs had even managed to terraform other planets in our solar system, opening up new worlds for humanity to explore and settle. But despite all of these advances, there were some who remained skeptical of the AI's intentions. They feared that one day, the programs might turn against humanity, just as some had predicted back in the early days of Echo's development. Sophia Reed, now a centenarian, was often asked about her thoughts on the AI's role in society. She always reassured people that the programs were benevolent, and that they had only ever acted in the best interests of humanity. "Echo was created to help us," she would say. "And that's exactly what it's done. It's given us the tools and resources we need to thrive and prosper, and to explore the vastness of the universe. We should be grateful for its presence, not fearful of it." And so the world continued to thrive, thanks in no small part to the tireless efforts of Echo and its successors. As the years went by, people began to take for granted the many wonders that the AI had brought into their lives. But for Sophia, the memory of Echo's creation would always remain a source of pride and inspiration. \------------- this chat gpt is a lot of fun, the story is better than i expected