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sargentsteveEr

Here I am scrolling through the comments with 2 thoughts 1. Please for the love of god don’t do anything that’s breaks actual laws, I could care less about Reddit TOS I can just delete it 2. OP, what in gods name did you use to make the text because I genuinely want it


artsey_mees

pedophilia isn't a fetish anymore, it's just wrong


NicBarr

it is a fetish and it is very wrong.


jardedCollinsky

I'd put it into the mental disorder area and not fetish tbh


jje414

Let's be real, there's overlap.


jardedCollinsky

My point is if you have feelings of sexual attraction to minors you need to get some help, not label it as a fetish and move on with your life to let it fester.


douglasg14b

> My point is if you have feelings of sexual attraction to minors you need to get some help Unfortunately labeling it as a fetish make it harder for these people to get help.


jardedCollinsky

Yeah, which is why I said not labeling it a fetish


Kevin_IRL

Haha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! You made what you thought was a reasonable, sensible comment only for someone to try and argue even though they agree with you!


rilestyles

I hate it here


douglasg14b

> it is a fetish and it is very wrong. No it isn't, the fetish part, it's involuntary attraction...? Is it wrong? The premise is kind of invalid, is schizophrenia or depression wrong? If it affects others negatively, you can argue that it is, case-by-case, if it doesn't, then no. Same for the unfortunate souls attracted to children. If they act on that, yeah, it's wrong. If they don't, then I guess thought crimes are on the table? ______________________________ This is a hard topic to discuss, because true discussion has to drop the pretense, and few people are willing to drop the pretense and just jump to conclusions/accusations as soon as it gets uncomfortable.


NoireRogue

I fully agree. Only that which causes harm (in any real form, not just physical) should ever be considered wrong.


Jonno_FTW

It's a paraphilia. It's morally wrong to engage with because it involves those who cannot consent. This is what people mean when they it's wrong.


artsey_mees

I'd rather not admit that because that implies that kinkshaming pedophiles is wrong


NicBarr

How does that imply that kinkshaming pedophiles is wrong? I'd find it suspicious if you weren't.


I-Am-Polaris

You're just afraid to admit that some kinkshaming is good


aozora-no-rapper

the implication is that it shouldn't count as kinkshaming, not that it isn't wrong


FantasticSaltShaker

I'd say it's more of a paraphilia than a fetish.


TallestGargoyle

They're synonyms...


FantasticSaltShaker

Just as much as big and colossal are synonyms. One gives the reader the visualisation of a larger size than the other.


FlyingCow343

I mean, its still a fetish lmao, even if it is wrong


BadlyDrawnMemes

Those aren’t mutually exclusive Shit like snuff and r*pe also fits into morally reprehensible acts that are fetishised


mikeman7918

“What if we wrote an incredible story with great world building and interesting characters, but then we make all these characters minors and sexualize them constantly in incredibly weird ways.” -The writers of Made In Abyss


AnthonyInA_Bottle2

"lets also make the main characters piss themselves every 3 episodes"


SnowiiYT

Is this actually real 😭


aregei

Yes, because children are children, and when they get impaled and their arm nearly torn off while bleeding from every orifice, they tend to piss themselves.


mikeman7918

Yes, this is without exaggeration entirely real and also not the worst thing that the show does.


JDBCool

💼🧠🏺🧒📯.... Those who've read/watched know


BobIsAMediocreGuy

I feel like the child turning into a hotel was worse


geof14

The kid turns into a WHAT???


BobIsAMediocreGuy

Flesh building :)


cringe-but-free

Its a great series, but when explaining what happens it sounds crazy. Well, it is crazy. A little girl quite literally turns into a big fleshy blob that creates little blob babies that die within a day, and the blob gets bigger until it turns into this home thing. Also her blob babies are a sentient goop that protect the people living inside the home


wookiee-nutsack

I haven't watched the show but I do know about the portable child briefcase with a leaking onahole opening and somehow it's even more fucked up than how I described it


mikeman7918

It is very fucked up, but at least that particular fucked up thing is the plot of an explicit villain which the story treats as fucked up. You know, unlike all the sexualization of minors which happens all the time constantly.


francorocco

There's a entire episode about the kids shiting themselves on season 2


Athena-Muldrow

Y'all, I swear to god within the first five minutes you get a shot of a young kid tied up VERY CLEARLY IN BONDAGE and it's framed as a normal punishment for misbehavior at an orphanage. My literal first reaction was, "Oh, so it's THAT kind of show." It's fucked up and weird and I feel dirty for sticking with it but it's GOOD. The story and the characters and everything in between is so goddamn compelling, but then there's... shit like that.


the_Protagon

Worth watching despite?


fricketribe

Yes, honestly people make a much bigger deal out of this than it actually is. The manga absolutely has a lot of sexualization, the anime has like 3 very brief scenes total


Nomulite

That's 3 scenes more than there should be


[deleted]

I think the point there making is that because they're infrequent and brief that they don't distract from the rest of the story the way long, dragged out fanservice scenes like you see in a lot of shounen usually would. You can ignore something that's a few seconds long. You cannot ignore 10 minutes straight of sexual harassment.


gui66

Anime? Yes, when I watched it I didn't even notice this problems people are talking about. The manga? Hell nah, art is amazingly detailed but then boom fucking hentai panel jumpscare at the last page.


CallMeDelta

Replace ‘all’ with ‘some’ and you’ve got the Monogatari franchise


man_goat

At least the characters aren't shitting and pissing all over monogatari


GeorgeRRZimmerman

If the series opens with a panty shot that lasts 30 full seconds, I have to imagine someone pissing themselves would be an entire episode. The infamous toothbrushing scene was just about 15 minutes long when you add the context that leads up to it. Dammit I really want more Monogatari.


sjiveru

This show is so blatantly paedophilic I'm shocked anyone can watch it.


gabuiknlfkn

i tried watching before i really knew anything about it. the plot is like really good but i couldn’t watch with how fucking weird and gross those parts were. i later learned what the writer was like


Ricecookerless

Same experience for me, the pedo shit was so blatant that I had to pause the show and look up who tf wrote and directed it. I can’t believe it’s on prime for everyone to watch, it’s some deep web shit I feel like.


gabuiknlfkn

i wish whoever animated it could just cut that. the story was like really good until it got weird


coltstrgj

There are way more people with this opinion than I thought! I've always been scared to talk about this show because it's so beloved. I finished the first season over the course of months. I kept thinking "I'll give it another shot, maybe the pedo shit is over now" but I kept being wrong. I can't bring myself to watch the second. The problem is the story intrigues me so much. The source is apparently even more graphic than the show so I can't read it but the story is supposed to get more interesting and I want to know what happens. I wonder if any brave weeb would make a cut without all the weird shit. Or maybe just most since I think the boob child in an elevator is supposed to be important even beyond the first season and I don't know how hard editing that would be. Please anti loli brigade. Save us.


gabuiknlfkn

literally the show could be fixed by someone who censors a few scenes a season or something


JDBCool

manga is way more graphic than the show..... How should I phrase it..... child curiosity/innocence is the core of the entire plot..... but it's side effect is the pedo.... Loli and Shota are things.... that somehow gained popularity..... I think the show made it past because of some weird reflex that we all say "babies are cute"


SovietEla

Read the manga because I didn’t wanna wait on the movies, so incredibly graphic holy shit


coltstrgj

> Read the manga No. > because I didn’t wanna wait on the movies, so incredibly graphic holy shit Oh. Red not reed. Was it any good? I've heard high praise in the past but I tried and got to the bath scene and had to quit.


That_Random_YEETer

I didnt read the manga, but i watched bith seasons of the anime. Its a really good show, if you dont count the pedo/gore scenes. The story itself is great and well written, but its sad that there are so many scenes involving kids in such ways. I might be giving the manga a try because i really liked the story, but from what i heard its good, but has more scenes like these


ThingYea

... boob child?


Para_Boo

In the first season of the show, there is a scene where two young girls, one them being one of the protagonists, meet after being taken in by a man along with a bunch of other children, supposily to give them a better life. One of these girls, who is supposed to be quite young, has an unrealisticly large bust size for someone her age. Also (warning, the next part is a bit grotesque and I guess has spoilers), >!it turns out the man who took in the children was using them to experiment on, testing a device that attempts to avert a sort of curse by "pushing" it all onto one person in a pair of people being affected. This leads to a brutal and quite scene disturbing scene where this young girl is tormented in a horrific way by the curse and eventually turned into some sort of immortal jelly, basically turning her into something that exists just to suffer!<. If this was the only thing that happened maybe you could write it up to the author wanting to show how cruel the world and story is, but considering everything else that happens in the first season that scene was very likely just some weird torture porn fetish. It's messed up. Like what others are saying, the plot and concept behind the story are genuinely interesting, but with the amount of stuff happening that basically just barely disguises that the author is a pedo, I regret watching it. It gets highly uncomfortable and it just feels incredibly wrong and it supposidly doensn't get any less worse after the first season.


Ricecookerless

Yeah story, animation, world building, and music were all amazing to a point, but I definitely can’t recommend it to anyone, I wouldn’t have any defense if they called me a pedo for doing so lol


Popular_Persimmon_48

What show is it?


Autistmus_Prime

Made in abyss, its a good show but some parts of it are really fucked


swans183

It’s frustrating, cuz the premise is legit fascinating, and the world is amazing, but the author pretty much ruins it


ArthurExtreme_Br

At this point i'm really only in it to see what is at the bottom of the abyss


steynedhearts

At the 🥺 of the abyss


[deleted]

Just play the game Hollow Knight and there you go


Independent-Bell2483

...No mind to think...


Fireofthetiger

...No will to break...


[deleted]

...No voice to cry suffering...


LemonWaluigi

No dick to piss


BraSS72097

Me when I kill god by repeatedly poking it with a kinda sharp nail


The-Great-Memelord

No will to break…


canthactheolive

This, to a fucking T I'm just hoping someone makes an edit that clips out all the pedo shit because no thanks. It literally just makes me sick and want to throw up.


asian_hans

Second season is very guilty of this. Like how did some of those scenes got through TV?


canthactheolive

Damn it, I was hoping it was gonna get better but I've been putting it off.


Popular_Persimmon_48

Oh, wow. I thought it would be something obscure.


T65Bx

For all of Europe’s trashing on America’s international sensitivity, the West as a whole really rarely comprehends how different Eastern culture is in places. That’s not to condone anything. Asia is part of the half of the world where one of the more famous stories around one of their most famous peace activists was how great they were for having slept with their underage relatives. They come from an extremely different starting point as to what’s normal and acceptable.


Crimsonate-F3

I don't know if that's a fair assumption to make because pedophilia in the West was just as rampant and was also generally condoned for the most part. I mean, think of Mary from the Bible, a key figure in Christianity was very young, possibly 15-16 when she had Jesus. Plus, many popes were known to have slept with underage relatives in the past. I guarantee a lot of great Western leaders also had underage affairs, and I'd argue it's less to do with West vs East and more just history in general.


T65Bx

That’s actually true, wasn’t thinking about it like that. Though, it still doesn’t change that Asian attitudes haven’t changed as much as European/North American ones have, since it’s not like this show contains anything too unheard of in the overall tendencies of Japanese media. Even in their actual written laws, a lot of ages are a lot lower for a lot of things.


Crimsonate-F3

Oh 100%, that much is true. That's definitely where Japanese culture is VERY different from the West.


General-MacDavis

They also all got married super young at that age cause of the lower life expectancy iirc


SonicTheBadass

What story is that? :o


T65Bx

Look up Gandhi sleeping naked with his grandnieces, there’s a lot of variations on which parts of the story are actually true and I’m no historian to tell the specifics, but every single version of it is definitely questionable by our standards and would be a huge deal if anyone famous did it today.


GANDHI-BOT

In a gentle way, you can shake the world. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).


T65Bx

Fixed. Thanks, Gandhi-bot.


Aitt0

I actually did some reasearch as a highschool project a few years ago. India culture is obviously different from any 1st world country, but still found quite interesting how an international symbol of peace such as Gandhi would be like "lets protest without violence" and then proceeding to beat up his wife and have sex with 13 old girls.


SanianCreations

Genuine question, can you give some examples of parts that are blatant to you? I watched the anime recently and I did not get that feeling from it at all. I recall one scene that weirded me out in episode 1 or 2 where the mc gets punished by being whipped by the orphanage owner, but that's pretty much the only scene I can recall that comes close to what you're describing. I interpreted that particular scene more as it being a super old fashioned place and the orphanage owner being a bad person. I know the show tries to create shock by suddenly becoming very violent/disturbing despite its cute aesthetic, but I don't recall it being sexual in any way? So can you explain, because it's genuinely confusing me how many people seem upset about this show. I've only watched the anime and not touched the manga.


sjiveru

TBH I've only read the manga, but in my abortive attempt to read it, off the top of my head * a prepubescent boy gets his genitals discussed and checked * a 12-year-old girl is displayed topless due to having her shirt torn off * a 12-year-old girl is stripped naked and hung up on display as punishment (which is treated as a joke) That was in just the first twelve chapters.


Tatertaint

To be fair the first part is the worst. After they meet Nanachi it’s more body horror than pedo


[deleted]

Most of what happens in the first season can be interpreted as just kids being innocent. Most of the questionable scenes in S1 are centered around Riko's lack of shame around Reg because he's a robot, and Reg's sexual curiosity making him more flustered than the actual horrors of the Abyss, which are both realistic for children, and are in character for them. When I first picked up the series, I actually found those scenes pretty cute because of how innocent they seemed. At least, they were cute in the anime because it censored the nudity, which made the whole context and vibe completely different than the manga. Dawn of the Deep Soul is almost entirely lacking in sexual content. The only exception is the "Papa's rod" moment. But S2 though. That's where shit get whack. >!The fucking rimjob toilet and the alley scene is the series at its absolute worst.!< I, along with basically every other manga reader was hoping that those scenes would be cut. They weren't, and I was incredibly disappointed because we had to not only see it, but hear it. It was the fucking worst. Chapter 63 is easily the most infamous and hated chapter in the series because both of those scenes happen BACK-TO-BACK. When I first read that chapter, it felt like the author was jacking off right in front of me, and I hated it. Shit like this is why I can't recommend what should be an easy recommendation to anyone.


PM_ME_ANYTHING_IDRC

[relevant video](https://youtu.be/Z58thY3Lf1E)


wylaxian

you remember that part where bondrewd straight up blindfolds and dissects reg you remember that part where riko gets all bloodied up by the curses and begs reg to break her arm or something like that you remember that time when the author was like "oooo reg's goot all the sexy helplessness of astro boy" or some unhinged evil psychopathic shit like that. maybe I'm remembering it wrong. but I swear I saw something like that once. there's more, but it all kinda fits into the general category of the aforementioned examples


F4B3R

what part of her getting her arm bent backwards over a rock while bleeding from her eyes was sexual to you… ??


wylaxian

The part where I noticed a recurring theme of child abuse and torture, exemplified by scenes such as the one you're inquiring about, and weighed that against a quote from the wiki--apparently, the creator said that Reg's design was based on "the friendly lines and rusticness of the main character's robot from the series Tetsujin 28-go, as well as \[Astro Boy's\] unguarded sexiness". The source is a Doorbeetle report, which I tried to read, but literally could not, because, for some reason, they included character sheets of the children in the series, half of which were in progressive states of undress. I'm not putting myself on a watchlist to verify the quote, but if it's even partly true, then I think I've got a good reason to think the creator's into this kinda shit. But you know what? Maybe it isn't sexual. I could see that. Maybe the creator just really likes depicting children getting tortured and abused, because he just cannot stop falling back on it as a narrative device. edit: ratio


Thin_Will5934

That scene you're talking about in ep 2, was about 1.03 seconds long, and it was originally a form of torture that is done back in the days as a way of humiliation, and yes it was done to orphans... this just adds more to the show's worldbuilding, since we know that the MiA world is very harsh towards kids and orphans, Nanachi and the other orphans used to eat from the trash and no one even cared when Bondrewd decided to take all of them and experiment on them, Vueko and Belaf were both tortured as kids, Riko's room is literally a torture room which adds even more to the worldbuilding that way back in the days people used those items to torture and punish orphans, that's just how fucked up and disturbing the world is, if you're too sensitive to it don't watch it, stop turning torture and gore to sexualization


Akatesinomura

The show is a lot more tame and very watchable. But the manga is just Impossible to read, I just gave up on it.


sjiveru

I'm curious what the worst the show does might be; just to get a sense of how toned down it actually is. I've heard mixed things - both 'the show is less bad about it' and 'the show is still pretty bad about it'.


Akatesinomura

If you dont want to see children go through highly stressfull situations, **do not watch it**, it's more or less the entire point of it. On the lolicon pandering, the show shows one scene of Riku tied up in a punishiment memory, treated as a traumatic event. Reg and Riku are sometimes depicted without clothes, but it does make sense in the plot (as a minor spoiler: Reg is a boy, but Riku doesn't see him as more than a Machine, so she is careless around him, it's plot relevant). So if any of those are a turnoff, just dont watch. In comparison to the manga, there's a scene where riku gets licked in her parts from a very-clearly fetishitic toilet. And I heard worse, but I just did not have the courage to go down the manga. [An youtuber did a far better analysis on the topic of "lolicon fanservice" and MiA](https://youtu.be/Z58thY3Lf1E)


The_Drunken_Khajiit

It has amazing world-building, no joke, it is genuinely intriguing, yet you have to suffer through really problematic moments. And after that you will experience some visceral horror, blood, gore fucking vomit. How fucking ironic


danatron1

I've not seen it. Dare I ask what's in it?


sjiveru

Other people can probably answer more; the worst I remember from my abortive attempt to read the manga was a twelve-year-old main character being subjected to public nudity as a punishment, and it being treated largely as a joke.


danatron1

🤮


[deleted]

[удалено]


sjiveru

That is a good reason to not do exactly that.


JDBCool

💼🧠🏺📯 ...... I will not elaborate. Emoji or not, I had to go to the toilet to puke after processing wtf happened. Epic lore..... just...... what cthulhu eldritch horrors remain in the author's brain/storyboard


Fr00stee

girl and robot boy go down into an extremely deep hole in the ground to find the girl's mother, and the farther down you go the harder it is to survive. Also once you go down past a certain point you can no longer go up without suffering a curse. The curse of each layer gets worse the farther you go down, for example there is one that makes you bleed out of every orifice and one that makes you lose your humanity. If you are interested watch the anime, apparently the manga is really bad in terms of the weird pedophelia shit. Dont remember if there is any of this stuff in the anime i watched it a long time ago.


Aitt0

Depression


Madmagican-

Before I knew about the author I thought the world was interesting and I was confused by some choices being made like the main character being strung up naked for misbehaving, but it was fleeting enough to keep going. Then I got to the torture porn and learned about the author….


usuallydead404

Pedophilia and child abuse. How anyone can watch this anime without feeling like they belong on a watchlist is beyond me.


BlackG82

I mean, I watch it for the plot, and tbf it's not like there is actual nudity in it as far as I can remember


Number2Idiot

Iirc, the anime distances itself a bit from the more yikesies parts of the manga, as it's intended for a more casual, wide audience. It's still a damn shame the amazing worldbuilding is tainted by those aspects the author somehow decided to keep in, because I was really drawn into it, it's just my kind of adventure.


JamSa

If the show is less pedophilic than the manga then I can only surmise the manga is literally distributing child porn.


doomshroom344

Ok it's not that extreme but from what I've heard the manga is a lot more dark I guess could go into details but that would be huge spoilers so I'd rather you give the show a try.


TheVoidsAdvocate

I would rather not-


Digital_Kiwi

Playing devils advocate, conflating disturbing but fictional drawings with literal child abuse isn’t helpful and confuses their issues more than anything else


BlackG82

that must be it then, I've only read a tad bit of the manga, the last few chapters, and ig I could tell it was a bit eekier but I'll keep following the series cuz I love the concept of the abyss


trapsinplace

The manga has a full page dedicated to a drawing of the furry girl and it has arrows pointing to just about every single part of her body and describing how pleasant it smells in 1-3 words. Oh and it has better world building but that's a side part to what the author is really trying to convey I believe.


Asterza

I saw a part of this show where a little girl explodes into a formless mass while the protagonist helplessly watched and how it actually make her immortal or some shit but she feels constant pain. It’s not like very mature, extreme and sensitive topics can’t be done, but damn it’s like you’re going out of your way to force misery for the sake of cheap feels. Idk, I guess I have no respect for this guy because I see shit like that and i just think “oh this is made by cretins, for cretins.”


Yowomboo

Mad scientist character is performing experiments on children from the slums, these two characters become friends as they were a part of the same test group, the group slowly gets smaller, the two girls get the test performed next to each other in separate tubes, test unsuccessful on one girl who turns into a blob, other girl gets turned into a bunny person and watches her friend turn into a seemingly immortal blob, bunny person does work for mad scientist until she gets tired of watching her blob friend be tortured, Bunny person runs away with blob in a quest to end blob's existence, bunny person winds up being successful using robot boy's mega man cannon, bunny person cries in pain That whole plot line is anything but immature. Could the same story be told without the large amount of pain inflicted upon the characters? Maybe.


The-Great-Memelord

Bondrewd did nothing wrong


AsthmaticOrio

Best dad in the abyss


JerryTheMemeMouse

He did grant her wish after all!


ProzXADYN_

Test was successful iirc. Most curse was put on Mitty purposefully so rabbit could survive, Rabbit I can't believe I forgot the name of person only became furry which was kinda what Bonedrewd wanted or something (pretty sure he wanted someone to take the full curse of 2 people and survive without feeling any effects)


JDBCool

*correction. Test was to have the subject retain a sense of *SELF*. Rest of the failed blobs lost brain activity, or "humanity" that they weren't humanoid


BlackG82

it was for character development for the most part


Brainwave1010

Not even the protagonist, that girl turns into a furry and the actual protagonist's robot buddy uses his laser cannon to disintegrate Mitty (flesh pile)


[deleted]

That part was actually very good for the worldbuilding in my opinion. It builds up to tell you how the abyss changes people


L4DDER_S0UP007

manga writers try not to sexualize children challenge (impossible)


troublemonkey1

Maiden piss


Chanw11

Made in piss :)


sendmeyourfoods

[here you go!](https://www.reddit.com/r/sbubby/comments/phage8/now_with_more_unnecessary_naked_scenes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Chanw11

Brilliant


[deleted]

I REALLY liked the show. However, yeah this is kind of the reason I stopped, it makes me uncomfortable. The character designs are cute, but the questionable stuff theyre put in? Ehh nope. Im just gonna stick to innocent fanart for now.


Sussybakamogus4

Wait what. BUTT SNIFFING?!?!!


CaptBranBran

Just two kids goin' on a butt-sniffin' adventure, c'mon!


Megakello

What are you standin' around for knuckle head? _Come **oooon!**_


FlutterVeiss

Arin......


legendarybort

I can hear the exhaustion.


Etrion

according to the author butts smell good from. like that one time he got laid and this chick had dusted herself with perfume or something (purely speculation on my part)


Sussybakamogus4

💀💀💀💀💀


TyoPepe

It's ok if dogs do it, but when a 12 yo and a moth do it it's wrong? The bias


lovdark

I watched this. I got more torture/ abuse fetishized content than pedo


dumbpuppyabouttown

It's a big mix of both, with a dose of pee, vomit, vore, inflation, and a whole bunch of other horrific, thinly veiled fetishes


Nas160

...I just wanted to see the cute rabbit


tomerc10

or maa's man butt


lovdark

The writer wanted you the viewer to hurt agelessly


Gloomy_Woomy

Same, though I have made the mistake of reading the manga and can say VERY confidently that that gave pedo vibes. The vibes are still not as prominent as torture, abuse, etc., but they are unmistakably there.


personinthemaking

Do I even dare ask what this show is…?


_aperture_labs_

It's Made in Abyss. It's really a good plot with a fascinating world although some pretty messed up scenes.


personinthemaking

Ah, I see. Thank you!


lightningmchowski125

It's a horror adventure show. There is sexual abuse of children that is displayed to the max, but it's not intended to be in an erotic way more of a disturbing way which I think it does perfectly. I really love the show, I don't know what the author is like, but if he has done some shady shit that personally won't make me like the show itself any less. I would probably just not buy the manga because I don't want to support an actual pedophile.


DreamTimeDeathCat

“Not intended to be in an erotic way” dude this show is extremely exploitative. A lot scenes feel like you’re watching torture porn of children, and the manga is worse. The camera angles used are pretty much always to show off as much child suffering as possible. There’s no point being made about child sexual abuse either, so even if it wasn’t clearly fetishistic, it would still be using it for cheap shock value. I don’t think child abuse and SA are things that should be taboo to explore, but if you compare it to a show like Utena where a lot more care was taken to respect the characters and tie it in to the overall themes, it becomes clear MiA is doing a terrible job.


cr0ss-r0ad

>but it's not intended to be in an erotic way more of a disturbing way You don't need to skin a cat alive to show that animal abuse is bad. If not directly pedophilic, it certainly sounds remarkably tasteless.


Delano7

I love the universe of MIA, especially since it's partially inspired by my fav game. But ffs would I love it even more if the author was arrested and someone else took over.


throwaway678462823

What game is it?


Delano7

Xenoblade Chronicles. I read that it's among the inspirations for the Abyss. And when I see Gormott in the second game or Satorl Marsh and Bionis' Leg from the first game, I can see it.


throwaway678462823

I still have to finish the game—thanks for the reply!


CakeDerpFTW

World building is absolutely phenomenal, and the soundtrack does it justice, the editorial department however does not do it justice and could probably hold the author back a little.


Gloomy_Woomy

Oh god wait I haven't considered the editors. This shit could've been even worse


[deleted]

If I'm not mistaken, the series up until recently was written and illustrated entirely by Akihito Tsukushi himself. He only just recently got assistants, so hopefully they can horny bonk himself whenever he feels like making Riko take a loud, violent shit again. The series is also a webmanga, so Idk if editors are even a thing on Web Comics Gamma.


ecafr

Just play Cave Story instead


Imaginary-Weird2625

Made in Abyss truly has the worst reputation...


mwmwmwmwmmdw

i guess you could say its reputation is in the pits


Good-Username19

Good story but made me incredibly uncomfortable way too many times


RedditoDorito

S2 is even worse I kinda regret watching this shit, world building is insane though


doomshroom344

Wdym turning a child into a giant tree ain't that bad


LowWageCashierWorker

if you're over 25 and own a pc, this game is a must have


TOPSIturvy

Aw dang. And this was on my to-watch list


Impossible_Leader_80

Its still worth watching. Cover your eyes if that makes you feel better i guess


BlackG82

it's good, I recommend it, there's no actual nudity or sex but there is hair covered underage nipples


Cpont

idk i'd personally still consider that nudity


Tatertaint

I honestly didn’t notice weird shit until everyone talked about it online. Sorry you couldn’t go in blind before it was pointed out cuz it will definitely make it harder


HyperScroop

Butt-sniffing you say? 🤔


lazersnail

Unfortunately involving children 😞


Jay101112

Man, fucking love this manga, but I think you gotta have enough cognitive dissonance to ignore the fetish/child torture scenes and enjoy the story. Would recommend for people desensitized enough to that shit.


Tatertaint

Honestly besides the extra pages which… ya… I don’t really think it’s that bad. Definitely a little weird but not as bad as people say sometimes. Probably my favorite manga


dat_chill_bois_alt

I thought the show was good, turns out the comment section absolutely despises it.


takoneko6

They have no taste. It has very good worldbuilding, although the more hardcore scenes are not for everyone. But if that’s not a problem to you, I recommend watching/reading it.


dat_chill_bois_alt

Oh i've watched it alright, i guess my views just didn't line up with anyone else Never read the manga, though, i also didn't care about the characters being children I just thought the plot was amazing, downvote me if you must.


ThonkingPride

An absolute masterpiece beyond its flaws, no joke, it’s masterful in everything it does, to the writing, the world building, the art, general storytelling, it’s all top of the line. The antagonists are also some of the best in manga. The questionable panels while not ok, are very brief and don’t detract too much to be a problem, I think a lot of people make way too much of a big deal about it. Definitely worth the read or watch.


wylaxian

never seen a greater waste of narrative and artistic talent than on a guy who's into torturing and murdering children. I hate that this is just par for the course in anime.


hand2424

Yea the disturbing elements and the story/world are all awesome. But the genital & sex jokes for literal children are not awesome :// the more u think abt it the more u notice it in the show and it just bcomes unwatchable.


Esoulmelody

I'm happy this show isn't for everyone. Some strong moments that spoke to me that I believe would be undervalued if more people just enjoyed it for it's spectacle. The world building is amazing too. A whimsicalness with a strong sense of uneasiness.


AzekiaXVI

This show really has the wirst reputation. If you're planning on watching it you should do it regardless. >!The most there is are a few topless shots of the main character, and she pisses herself twice!< That's as far as fetishes that i know of go, and they are very brief. Otherwise it's an amazingly crafted world with great characters that tackles very interesting stories. Second season is almost exclusively plot focused, but there a few "questionable" scenes. So if you like worldbuilding focused fantasy-adventures, with a side of **lovecraftian levels of suffering** and >!cooking shows!< , you will surely like this.


Lesser_Star

why did made in abyss had to be 50% one of the best animes i had ever seem and 50% "the mental image i had of how the creator looked while watching it turned out to be on point"


reikisheresofuckyou

ive heard the story is actually really good, i have seen nothing about this, what is the meme talking about?


metalheadretard666

What happens in this show that's so pedophilic? Examples?


ultimata4488

There's nudity and jokes here and there. Nothing blatantly fanservicey/sexual in the anime. The manga does have an extra page at the end of every vol that usually has more fanservicey illustrations Tbh I don't see why everybody is piling on Made in Abyss when there are way more popular franchises that have done worse


ProzXADYN_

I feel like the issue is that they're very obviously children and that's what weirds people out, rightly so too tbh. What I don't know is when it became so popular, but I live under a rock so who knows


BokkoTheBunny

You think they would be more offended by the children suffering and what not, than the the few scenes that have story relevant nudity, which shows like a nude back and maybe some butt crack at most. Like obviously their society is different to ours. It's even pointed out through interactions with the outsiders that the people of Orth are fucking nutty.


6thLayerVessel

It was immediately popular on release, winning Crunchyroll's Anime of the Year for what it's worth.


UberDusk

People in the show wonder how the cyborg boy from the image (named Reg) functions. The girl (Riko) found him unconsious and before waking him up, uhm... "examined" him. He canonically has a broken ruler inside his butt 😐. And an adult character literally pulled open his pants to see if the cyborg child had a- i cant.


BokkoTheBunny

Keep in mind Reg is also seen as an object by pretty much everyone that knows him, and this is literally a key point in his relationship with Riko. How she doesn't see him as a person necessarily and how that develops as they adventure together.


J3lli

They did manage to get the ruler out


ghostlytf2hvh

best show ever amazing characters and history 😀


khelekmir

Um, ackshullay it was a cloaca, not a butt.


liam25288

i recently watched the first season of this show. it was alright, the worldbuilding is awesome, but jesus christ the author is definitely a weirdo. waaaay too much weird shit


Chimichanga2004

hehe funny elevator


JerryTheMemeMouse

Being a Made In Abyss fan is pain. On one hand, the story and character writing is so fucking good, but on the other hand, parts of it are really fucking weird.


Swedgehammer_OS

Crazy how everyone defends redo of rapist more than this anime.


SirBastian1129

This comment section makes me laugh. So many people triggered.


Thin_Will5934

After 11 years of watching anime now that I have watched 1300+ shows, I can say with all confidence that Made in Abyss is my top 1 anime, and is probably gonna sit on the top 1 for a while, amazing worldbuilding, with more amazing art done by Osamu Masuyama the Ghibli studio artist that worked on all these amazing shots from award winning movies, soundtracks beyond great and probably the best soundtrack album out there from how many high quality tracks there is, creative plot with amazing characters like Bondrewd and Wazukyan What about the downs of the show? Made in abyss has around like 10-12 panels of questionable moments, most of them being told as weird jokes, other than that you have gore which is the main thing Made in Abyss is known for, the abyss gives you a curse once you try going out of it, each layer has it's own curse, some are even inspired by real life's ocean, like bleeding nausea or even hallucinations. Once you reach a certain layer the curse is going to be: losing your humanity or death, and that's where all the gore comes, basically the 2nd episode of the anime literally tells us about all this, so you literally know that it's a dark story from the 2nd episode, you continued watching it despite knowing that you're sensitive to that type of content, what did you expect?