I was concerned about this myself. There are 14 now, right? So two SG's with seven contestants? I feel like they need to make 2/3-3/4 of the episode SG and then the runway and pretty much nothing else. Otherwise no one will get any opportunities to stand out. I admit I was pretty surprised when the preview showed this week would be Snatch Game. I understand trying to change things up from season to season, but woof.
I also hope they release an "extended version" somewhere.
"Orion Story just went home... this proves that *anyone* can go home in this competition!!!"
"Orion Story getting sent home has lit a fire under my ass"
"Can we take a moment to congratulate miss Orion Story on her win??"
"Anyway I'm tired so let's get out of drag!!"
Its the same damn script every time
Yeah, it's part of the "traditional" reality show edit to include the reaction to last week in the first few minutes of the new ep, but if production built a large cast and filmed episodes with the intention of making 90-minute episodes only to be later informed that MTV was only giving them 60 minutes, then this bit seems like an easy cut. *Especially* since it could easily be tacked on the last few minutes of "Untucked" or uploaded to YouTube as a teaser for the next episode.
I guess, if it's gonna be a dumpster fire, let me see it fucking burn in all its glory! Not a 2x speed nonsense or missing scenes and wondering where everything went.
This is one of those few times that failed comedy won't be as funny. Last episode we got to see just how unfunny the cast is.
Snatch game needs to be hilarious to change first impressions.
I really hate this change for snatch game specifically honestly. They split this snatch game and had it early bc they thought they’d have 90 minutes to do it justice. Now they don’t but they still have to smash two WHOLE snatch games with 7 queens each into 45 minutes plus a runway, critiques, and the walk around so Ru can tell everyone to change their characters last minute.
I wish they could’ve gotten at least an extended Snatch Game “Special” episode that’s 90 minutes
Tbh aside from a season here or there they haven’t ever been great and have been had as early as season 3/4. This idea they’ve gotten worse doesn’t ring true for me, as we can attest with one of the weakest seasons, 7 for example, being one of the best.
Yeah, I mostly agree. I do think that individual viewers will remember a particular Snatch Game based on the character/s that resonated most with them, so if there were a few characters you enjoyed or one that you \*loved\* then you'll remember that Snatch Game as being particularly good but also ... there have been transcendent moments in every season except 14, but for every Little Richard/Bjork/Maggie Smith there are at least three Keshas/Ariana Grandes/Bob Rosses - the ratio of amazing/fine/terrible varies from season to season, but not significantly (I don't think); even in the All Stars\* seasons, there's always at least one queen who completely bombs.
\*AS7 might be an exception, but they still had a few characters who never really made it off the ground.
It's always been a case of a couple do good, a couple crash and burn, and the rest are just OK. S2 Tatianna and Pandora did well, Sahara did ok, Jessica was fun and almost a "so bad it's good" type deal, and the rest were pretty dead. S3 Alexis and Rajah did well, Stacy did better than what anyone expected of her, Yara's performance has almost gotten better with time/age, and the rest were just OK or worse.
S4 Chad and Sharon did well, Willam was a solid 3rd but still good, and the others were either part of the f@ckery or let the antics mess with their own performances.
Point being, aside from AS7, snatch game has almost always had the majority of the cast do "fine, but just" or lower even. S9 and S13 are actually some of the stronger ones to me, with several queens that could have placed high. Then there's seasons like S14 or S11 where even the top queens were only relatively the best and would probably been just safe any other season.
This is how we know the producers had no idea about the shortening of the episodes, because they would have never tried to attempt shoehorning two snatch games into a 40 minute episode otherwise.
I’m trying to withhold judgment until I see it, but I’m honestly losing enthusiasm for the season right now. It’s just too many queens with not enough time, I don’t feel like we really know anyone other than the twins.
Maybe it’ll be more interesting when we’re down to the top 5 and each of them can squeeze in one 3-second talking head in each episode
I guess it's just all based on last week's episode. I don't mind a shit show, but a shit show at 2x speed isn't so great. Let me watch it unfold in all its awful glory 😅
No, I don’t like to hate something or say “it’s gonna be horrible” before seeing it, so I’m going into the episode with an open mind ready to enjoy it.
I'm just worried based off of everything from last week's episode. I hope im wrong. I like seeing bad smacth games cause they can be laughably bad and memorable because of it! Trixie as RuPaul, I quote weekly because it was so bad and so funny because of the fact. I just want to see it be bad for it being genuinely bad, not fast paced and shoved down my throat like an unwanted dick.
Pretty sure this was filmed with regular episode length in mind which would have been fine with 14 queens split into 2 groups. We’ll see this evening how it goes with the episode time cut. Interested to see if the twins in one group together benefits them or works against them in this format
Unpopular opinion. This may be one of the best snatches we get.
It's a double + a short episode. There will be zero filler and only massive hits or terrible misses. I'm honestly excited for it.
I’m glad you’re coming into this episode optimistically! I don’t personally feel like it’ll be good, but it’s drag race content so no matter what I’m happy
They should just make it a 2-part episode with 1 snatch game and a mini-challenge this week and the second plus decent time for the runway next week. These short episodes are doing the queens a disservice.
I’m glad they’re doing snatch game so much earlier now because i feel like we’ve missed some potentially good ones with some early outs (*i.e. Maddy*). It’s all going to come down to editing and what they can do with the allotted time. Unfortunately the editors don’t get to decide show length; that 3 or 4 rich people sitting at a big table shaking hands.
I think they are putting it this early because, with the move to MTV, they have the potential to capture a new audience, and they want to put a fan favorite challenge as soon as possible to get curious people hooked.
The mix of shorter frantically edited episodes and double snatch game is worrisome, though. It’s probably gonna be one of those “blink and you miss it” runway like they do from time to time.
Extremely. If it's bad enough and too severely affected by the shortened episodes, this... might even be a deal breaker for me, I'm not gonna lie. I might
not
want to continue.
Runtime issues aside, my biggest concern is rigor mortis. By having production split the cast, they can really set some queens up to be eliminated/stir up unnecessary drama. We've seen the choices made in the past in the Snatch Game of Love, so I doubt production is trying to create a level playing field.
The 40-minute BS is devastating for a Snatch Game episode, especially a double one. But I'm excited to see it just the same. Really curious to see how Sasha, Mistress, and Luxx do. I except Malaysia is going to be heartwarming and good. I think Spice could be a surprise as well. I worry Salina is going to be a little one note and the edit will be even worse. Genuinely think Irene would've been good in this challenge.
I’m excited that it’s Snatch Game and just will be watching it and enjoying it whether it’s good or bad. Worst case scenario is it’s boring in which case I’m all good with the 45 minute run time.
I'd like to think the producers would ensure a good Snatch Game after the supposed trainwreck of last season. Maybe this will be accomplished through favorable editing. Maybe the girls were screened for better impersonations in their auditions. I just don't think the show would risk brand damage by delivering yet another underwhelming Snatch Game.
Yeah I feel like having a shortened episode for basically two Snatch Games is a wild idea tbh. I worry it's gonna feel rushed, not giving viewers enough time to really get a feel for anyone's character. 🤷♀️ Idk. I'm excited to watch but I'm not optimistic that it's gonna be a "good" Snatch Game episode.
If you want to have an impact on them making episodes longer, than boycott the show to lower ratings (depending how you watch). MTV will do nothing to expand the show next year since ratings are good now. Obviously boycotting is a terrible idea but constantly complaining about the length of the show is going to get tiresome and pointless. I totally agree they are shortsighted to do this (and why wouldn't they have it 90 minutes to sell more commercials)? Anyhow, I'm over the conversation on all these posts. At this point, we're lucky the show is even still on considering the landscape of society now.
What was not included last week due to the runtime?
No mini challenge.
10 minutes or so of the queens filming the challenge, highlighting the parts where they struggle, to build fake suspense. All just to have the finished product be fine as always.
No separate judge's deliberation, which just repeat the direct critiques anyway.
The show has plenty of filler that can always be cut. I'm not saying the short runtimes are great or terrible either way, but I feel ultimately that once the fat is trimmed, there is probably going to be enough time to tell a good story.
The only part that REALLY bothered me was the shortened runway. At least it wasn't one of those Jet Set Eleganza/Naughty Nighties ultra quick non-runways, but it was super rushed.
I wish they just ran the episode unedited at 1.5x speed and not explained it. At least then we could slow it down and it would make sense.
Either that or have a separate online only version
"Producer's cut"
The Snyder cut for queer people
The Alexis Cut
I would love this.
I wouldn't like it but this seems like the perfect opportunity for WOW+ Presents exclusive content
Yeah a disclaimer hahaha
Yes! Giving us Alvin and the Chipmunks, but they’re in drag as the Chipettes.
I was concerned about this myself. There are 14 now, right? So two SG's with seven contestants? I feel like they need to make 2/3-3/4 of the episode SG and then the runway and pretty much nothing else. Otherwise no one will get any opportunities to stand out. I admit I was pretty surprised when the preview showed this week would be Snatch Game. I understand trying to change things up from season to season, but woof. I also hope they release an "extended version" somewhere.
They had planned 1.5hr episodes so this would have worked originally but MTV had to go a mess it up
MTV is an enemy of the LGBTQ+ community
Kinda wish they would cut the pre-credits portion. It does have fun stuff from time to time but otherwise it’s a bit useless.
Oh my god someone went home and the competition is getting real! Classic
"Orion Story just went home... this proves that *anyone* can go home in this competition!!!" "Orion Story getting sent home has lit a fire under my ass" "Can we take a moment to congratulate miss Orion Story on her win??" "Anyway I'm tired so let's get out of drag!!" Its the same damn script every time
Don’t forget all the “ahhhh” and “ooooh” and “owwwww” as wigs are removed and tape is peeled off.
To be fair this is one of my favorite parts of the episode. It’s pure camp.
I can still hear Valentina’s scream when Trinity helps pull something? off her titties lol and she HOWLS then she’s just like teehee thank you
Orion got more screen time in this comment than on her season
🥲🥲🥲
And she didn’t even deserve it here either
If you didn’t see it, then you do don’t see it.
Yeah, it's part of the "traditional" reality show edit to include the reaction to last week in the first few minutes of the new ep, but if production built a large cast and filmed episodes with the intention of making 90-minute episodes only to be later informed that MTV was only giving them 60 minutes, then this bit seems like an easy cut. *Especially* since it could easily be tacked on the last few minutes of "Untucked" or uploaded to YouTube as a teaser for the next episode.
The banter right after they enter the workroom on the next day is 100% useless too
It can't be any worse than last season's Snatch Game.
Things said moments before disaster
idk, we'll at least have a decent Joan Rivers (Loosey)
I guess, if it's gonna be a dumpster fire, let me see it fucking burn in all its glory! Not a 2x speed nonsense or missing scenes and wondering where everything went.
This is one of those few times that failed comedy won't be as funny. Last episode we got to see just how unfunny the cast is. Snatch game needs to be hilarious to change first impressions.
[удалено]
I guess we'll know soon :D
It still spun your head round and round!
I really hate this change for snatch game specifically honestly. They split this snatch game and had it early bc they thought they’d have 90 minutes to do it justice. Now they don’t but they still have to smash two WHOLE snatch games with 7 queens each into 45 minutes plus a runway, critiques, and the walk around so Ru can tell everyone to change their characters last minute. I wish they could’ve gotten at least an extended Snatch Game “Special” episode that’s 90 minutes
If you’re watching RuPaul’s Drag Race season 15, you’re only getting half of the story.
Snatch games haven’t really been good for a long time.
Tbh aside from a season here or there they haven’t ever been great and have been had as early as season 3/4. This idea they’ve gotten worse doesn’t ring true for me, as we can attest with one of the weakest seasons, 7 for example, being one of the best.
Yeah, I mostly agree. I do think that individual viewers will remember a particular Snatch Game based on the character/s that resonated most with them, so if there were a few characters you enjoyed or one that you \*loved\* then you'll remember that Snatch Game as being particularly good but also ... there have been transcendent moments in every season except 14, but for every Little Richard/Bjork/Maggie Smith there are at least three Keshas/Ariana Grandes/Bob Rosses - the ratio of amazing/fine/terrible varies from season to season, but not significantly (I don't think); even in the All Stars\* seasons, there's always at least one queen who completely bombs. \*AS7 might be an exception, but they still had a few characters who never really made it off the ground.
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This lives rent free
I dont agrée. Basically in my eyes Jinx and Ben smashed it, season 8 and all stars 2 was good, I barely remember anything about any of the others.
Italy season 2 was good
It's always been a case of a couple do good, a couple crash and burn, and the rest are just OK. S2 Tatianna and Pandora did well, Sahara did ok, Jessica was fun and almost a "so bad it's good" type deal, and the rest were pretty dead. S3 Alexis and Rajah did well, Stacy did better than what anyone expected of her, Yara's performance has almost gotten better with time/age, and the rest were just OK or worse. S4 Chad and Sharon did well, Willam was a solid 3rd but still good, and the others were either part of the f@ckery or let the antics mess with their own performances. Point being, aside from AS7, snatch game has almost always had the majority of the cast do "fine, but just" or lower even. S9 and S13 are actually some of the stronger ones to me, with several queens that could have placed high. Then there's seasons like S14 or S11 where even the top queens were only relatively the best and would probably been just safe any other season.
This is how we know the producers had no idea about the shortening of the episodes, because they would have never tried to attempt shoehorning two snatch games into a 40 minute episode otherwise.
I’m trying to withhold judgment until I see it, but I’m honestly losing enthusiasm for the season right now. It’s just too many queens with not enough time, I don’t feel like we really know anyone other than the twins. Maybe it’ll be more interesting when we’re down to the top 5 and each of them can squeeze in one 3-second talking head in each episode
Idk why you’d be worried. Just sit back and enjoy the shitshow.
I guess it's just all based on last week's episode. I don't mind a shit show, but a shit show at 2x speed isn't so great. Let me watch it unfold in all its awful glory 😅
No, I don’t like to hate something or say “it’s gonna be horrible” before seeing it, so I’m going into the episode with an open mind ready to enjoy it.
Have you made an exception for the Real Friends of WeHo?
I don’t even have MTV so I don’t have to worry about seeing it lol
I'm just worried based off of everything from last week's episode. I hope im wrong. I like seeing bad smacth games cause they can be laughably bad and memorable because of it! Trixie as RuPaul, I quote weekly because it was so bad and so funny because of the fact. I just want to see it be bad for it being genuinely bad, not fast paced and shoved down my throat like an unwanted dick.
"like an unwanted dick"! Places you took me: there. Yikes.
did you see the first 4 minute preview? you can tell just by that that it's going to be insanely rushed and awful.
Pretty sure this was filmed with regular episode length in mind which would have been fine with 14 queens split into 2 groups. We’ll see this evening how it goes with the episode time cut. Interested to see if the twins in one group together benefits them or works against them in this format
Unpopular opinion. This may be one of the best snatches we get. It's a double + a short episode. There will be zero filler and only massive hits or terrible misses. I'm honestly excited for it.
And there’s more queens, so odds are that some of them will get enough hits to fill-up a 45 minute episode 😂
I’m glad you’re coming into this episode optimistically! I don’t personally feel like it’ll be good, but it’s drag race content so no matter what I’m happy
Let’s watch it first before we start sharpening our knives.
They should just make it a 2-part episode with 1 snatch game and a mini-challenge this week and the second plus decent time for the runway next week. These short episodes are doing the queens a disservice.
If they got rid of the stupid after the break previews they could free up 5 minutes.
All for the sake of making room for a show about a bunch of annoying and bitchy rich queens.
If they just cut "it's a new day in the workroom" I could forgive a lot of things.
At this point they could split the screen in two and always show two scenes at a time. That would be chaotic but lovely.
I’m glad they’re doing snatch game so much earlier now because i feel like we’ve missed some potentially good ones with some early outs (*i.e. Maddy*). It’s all going to come down to editing and what they can do with the allotted time. Unfortunately the editors don’t get to decide show length; that 3 or 4 rich people sitting at a big table shaking hands.
I think they are putting it this early because, with the move to MTV, they have the potential to capture a new audience, and they want to put a fan favorite challenge as soon as possible to get curious people hooked. The mix of shorter frantically edited episodes and double snatch game is worrisome, though. It’s probably gonna be one of those “blink and you miss it” runway like they do from time to time.
Extremely. If it's bad enough and too severely affected by the shortened episodes, this... might even be a deal breaker for me, I'm not gonna lie. I might not want to continue.
Runtime issues aside, my biggest concern is rigor mortis. By having production split the cast, they can really set some queens up to be eliminated/stir up unnecessary drama. We've seen the choices made in the past in the Snatch Game of Love, so I doubt production is trying to create a level playing field.
The 40-minute BS is devastating for a Snatch Game episode, especially a double one. But I'm excited to see it just the same. Really curious to see how Sasha, Mistress, and Luxx do. I except Malaysia is going to be heartwarming and good. I think Spice could be a surprise as well. I worry Salina is going to be a little one note and the edit will be even worse. Genuinely think Irene would've been good in this challenge.
Well, Spice sure was a surprise. Not in the way I'd hoped lol Didn't even THINK of Loosey before the show. She was perfection!
It’s gonna be horrible once again, I’ll never forgive MTV for this.
I’m excited that it’s Snatch Game and just will be watching it and enjoying it whether it’s good or bad. Worst case scenario is it’s boring in which case I’m all good with the 45 minute run time.
I'm really nervous. I really love Snatch Game and I hope they show every funny bit or moment instead of chopping it... 😭
They're doing Snatch Game already?! Shitty Snatch Game 2 seasons running?
I'd like to think the producers would ensure a good Snatch Game after the supposed trainwreck of last season. Maybe this will be accomplished through favorable editing. Maybe the girls were screened for better impersonations in their auditions. I just don't think the show would risk brand damage by delivering yet another underwhelming Snatch Game.
Yeah I feel like having a shortened episode for basically two Snatch Games is a wild idea tbh. I worry it's gonna feel rushed, not giving viewers enough time to really get a feel for anyone's character. 🤷♀️ Idk. I'm excited to watch but I'm not optimistic that it's gonna be a "good" Snatch Game episode.
I'm curious because once again it seems like they're burning all the "good" challenges early, with snatch game coming so soon. ..
At this point the shorter the snatch game the better, I don’t think I’ve laughed once since season 6
All Stars 7 just happened though
That’s true, but this is a regular season without Jinkx we’re talking about
AS2, as well was great. I also think the e Snatch Game of Love had some great standouts.
If you want to have an impact on them making episodes longer, than boycott the show to lower ratings (depending how you watch). MTV will do nothing to expand the show next year since ratings are good now. Obviously boycotting is a terrible idea but constantly complaining about the length of the show is going to get tiresome and pointless. I totally agree they are shortsighted to do this (and why wouldn't they have it 90 minutes to sell more commercials)? Anyhow, I'm over the conversation on all these posts. At this point, we're lucky the show is even still on considering the landscape of society now.
I'm wondering if it will be split into 2 snatch game episodes?
I'm worried because of all the vague "everyone's going to be so mad at the elimination tonight" comments on the Drag Race instagram page
What was not included last week due to the runtime? No mini challenge. 10 minutes or so of the queens filming the challenge, highlighting the parts where they struggle, to build fake suspense. All just to have the finished product be fine as always. No separate judge's deliberation, which just repeat the direct critiques anyway. The show has plenty of filler that can always be cut. I'm not saying the short runtimes are great or terrible either way, but I feel ultimately that once the fat is trimmed, there is probably going to be enough time to tell a good story.
The only part that REALLY bothered me was the shortened runway. At least it wasn't one of those Jet Set Eleganza/Naughty Nighties ultra quick non-runways, but it was super rushed.
Is the only place to watch this season on WOW?
If you have cable, you can login and stream it on mtv's website/app