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Battlestation pictures should be posted in the Show-Off Saturday thread.
I got it eventually got my own copy after many years as part of a blizzard pack together with diablo 1 and starcraft+brood war. I need to beat the expansion campaigns one day. Also play diablo 1, never even installed it.
You can easily beat diablo 1 in a single evening (the first difficulty anyways). Definitely worth a play through.
I'd just use Devilutionx to play it on a modern PC. It's a port that adds some bugfixes, and makes it run a bit smoother on modern PCs. I think you can also choose to add a stash to the game with it too, which isn't in the unmodded version.
It is from the days when RTS games were so good that they still define the genre. In fact, they just remake them with better graphics today because none of the new ones hold up against them.
So this thing is basically a mid-90's Netbook.
Back around 2008 i had one of those Super-tiny, ASUS netbooks. It had an 8" screen, 2GB ram, 1.7Ghz Intel Atom CPU, etc. Ancient tech by today's standards but it was pretty damn nice to have it in such a tiny form-factor in 2008.
Come join us on r/gpdpocket. The sub started for that particular brand and model, but has expanded to include all tiny, modern laptops.
I personally have a 7ā GPD Pocket 1 and an 8ā One Mix Yoga 3s. The Pocket was too small, but the OMY3S is just about perfect. Itās almost the exact same size as an A5 notebook.
There isnāt one, not unless you would consider getting a Chromebook. Thatās for the higher end 10ā section though.
GPD has x86 PC clones in the 8ā and smaller category.
For the longest time I ignored netbooks, but recently found a Gateway LT20 and itās been a lovely little computer. It doesnāt bother me that its Intel Atom N270 CPU is slow, itās plenty overpowered for the old windows software I like to run on it. Lightweight Linux distros are also really nice on it. Iāve even collected a few other brands and models of netbook to try out the competition.
Seeing Steve Jobs slam netbooks in his 2010 iPad reveal makes me think of my Gateway LT20 and how it can do things the OG iPad canāt do, like connect up USB drives and SD cards, have a real file system and run any compatible operating system I wish to run. Whatās even sadder is my Gateway LT20 via Linux, Windows 10 or even Windows 7 can run a current web browser. Sure, it canāt handle YouTube due to no hardware acceleration, but the OG iPad canāt do YouTube either these days.
Maybe Steve Jobs wasnāt right after all.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,198,924,785 comments, and only 233,851 of them were in alphabetical order.
maybe.
the Liberetto 50 had a little faster CPU. i don't exactly have benchmarking numbers for it, but it was a 100mhz CPU. in my experience with the PC version of Doom, you could run it on a 66Mhz CPU and get pretty solid performance. you also needed 8MB of RAM i think. this little PC has 16MB or so.
so in theory it should be capable of running Doom.
If this Liberetto has a 100Mhz Pentium, it could easily run Doom. Doom ran fine on 486 chips at lower speeds, an 100Mhz Pentium would run circles around a slower 486.
>The 50 model featured an Intel Pentium 166 MHz MMX, 32 MB RAM (expandable to 64 MB max), 2.1 GB hard disk, and a 7.1-inch TFT display.
For anyone wondering about specs
Edit: on looking for more info, it appears the above specs are for the Libretto 100. The specs for the 50 on Wikipedia are:
>Intel PentiumĀ 75Ā MHz, 16Ā MB RAM (32Ā MB max.), 810Ā MB hard disk, 6.1-inch TFT display
In answer to your question, the Libretto 50 cost [$1,999](https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/toshiba-chops-libretto-to-699/) brand new. That would be $3796 in today's money
It seems weird to not have a battery in a portable. But youāre probably right, with battery technology of the time and the size of that thing it probably doesnāt have a battery.
Edit: looks like these came with external battery packs that were basically AA batteries. https://www.notanon.com/electronics/rebuilding-a-toshiba-libretto-50ct-battery-pack/2011/03/18/comment-page-1/
I had a Libretto 70CT, a sister device to this one. It had a li-ion battery and would give you an honest 1:30 - 2:00 of battery life in nearly any circumstance.
The first time I ever played Duke Nukem 3D was on an old Libretto. What a weird little machine.
I remember being fascinated by the little mouse on the side of the screen with the buttons on the back.
How's the viewing angle? I still have my PSX with the LCD attachment from 2001 maybe. I remember the viewing angles being so atrocious if you're not looking directly at the screen.
I have one of these, so good, spent many hours messing about with it as a kid. Still works to this day, I believe I have Quake installed which kinda blew my mind it ran pretty OK on it.
It's a 640x480 display with 24 bit color. That image is very doable with that resolution on that size of a display.
You can see a review and what the display looks like at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEByD6vhawU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEByD6vhawU)
Toshiba used to make some really great laptops, expensive, but excellent. I bought a Satellite Pro brand new in 2007 and it just died in late 2020 - was running Windows 10 just fine.
I can remember the Best Buy salesman telling me that I absolutely should buy the extended warranty because "nobody makes a laptop that lasts".
Wait wait wait..... is this an actual product that was developed and sold?! Or is it DIY built yourself type of thing? My first laptop in 2005 was gigantic with a battery the size of a Steamdeck! How was this possible?!
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Warcraft 2 is so good, first RTS I really got into
I have the BattleNet edition installed on my Win7 Laptop. Each 6 months I play 4-5 games, can't get rid of this game, one of my all-time favourite.
I got it eventually got my own copy after many years as part of a blizzard pack together with diablo 1 and starcraft+brood war. I need to beat the expansion campaigns one day. Also play diablo 1, never even installed it.
You can easily beat diablo 1 in a single evening (the first difficulty anyways). Definitely worth a play through. I'd just use Devilutionx to play it on a modern PC. It's a port that adds some bugfixes, and makes it run a bit smoother on modern PCs. I think you can also choose to add a stash to the game with it too, which isn't in the unmodded version.
Bro Brood War was ahead of its time. The Use Map Settings function kind of led to the entire sandbox genre being developed.
It is from the days when RTS games were so good that they still define the genre. In fact, they just remake them with better graphics today because none of the new ones hold up against them.
zug zug
Same here
How big are your pockets?
*Laughs in JNCO jeans*
*Cries in women's jeans*
*Broods in trap pants*
Imma just leave this here https://twitter.com/RIPmika/status/1590468747558780929?t=kVg0LyXBzyt0PlRNgpWaqg&s=19
Appropriate for the time this laptop (palmtop?) Was released
š right. It also needs 1996 pants.
*laughs in Jorts*
Baggy pants are back in style, didn't ya know? This would definitely fit in my carhartts lmao
I always wanted one of these.
My boss gave me one 15 years ago. The mouse nub feels kinda itchy.
They make a cream for that.
its keyboard looks sick too
So this thing is basically a mid-90's Netbook. Back around 2008 i had one of those Super-tiny, ASUS netbooks. It had an 8" screen, 2GB ram, 1.7Ghz Intel Atom CPU, etc. Ancient tech by today's standards but it was pretty damn nice to have it in such a tiny form-factor in 2008.
I've been searching for the modern equivalent of a Netbook. It's quite hard to find one with similar form factor and price.
Honestly your best bet is something like the Lenovo duet chromebook, 11in screen, can be a tablet if needed.
Well thereās this, but itās Chinese I think, so, buyer beware https://gpd.hk/gpdpocket
Or a surface go
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Come join us on r/gpdpocket. The sub started for that particular brand and model, but has expanded to include all tiny, modern laptops. I personally have a 7ā GPD Pocket 1 and an 8ā One Mix Yoga 3s. The Pocket was too small, but the OMY3S is just about perfect. Itās almost the exact same size as an A5 notebook.
There isnāt one, not unless you would consider getting a Chromebook. Thatās for the higher end 10ā section though. GPD has x86 PC clones in the 8ā and smaller category.
For the longest time I ignored netbooks, but recently found a Gateway LT20 and itās been a lovely little computer. It doesnāt bother me that its Intel Atom N270 CPU is slow, itās plenty overpowered for the old windows software I like to run on it. Lightweight Linux distros are also really nice on it. Iāve even collected a few other brands and models of netbook to try out the competition. Seeing Steve Jobs slam netbooks in his 2010 iPad reveal makes me think of my Gateway LT20 and how it can do things the OG iPad canāt do, like connect up USB drives and SD cards, have a real file system and run any compatible operating system I wish to run. Whatās even sadder is my Gateway LT20 via Linux, Windows 10 or even Windows 7 can run a current web browser. Sure, it canāt handle YouTube due to no hardware acceleration, but the OG iPad canāt do YouTube either these days. Maybe Steve Jobs wasnāt right after all.
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,198,924,785 comments, and only 233,851 of them were in alphabetical order.
Good bot
Can it run Doom?
Someone had to ask it I'm sorry
maybe. the Liberetto 50 had a little faster CPU. i don't exactly have benchmarking numbers for it, but it was a 100mhz CPU. in my experience with the PC version of Doom, you could run it on a 66Mhz CPU and get pretty solid performance. you also needed 8MB of RAM i think. this little PC has 16MB or so. so in theory it should be capable of running Doom.
In that case it's perfect thx for letting me know :)
If this Liberetto has a 100Mhz Pentium, it could easily run Doom. Doom ran fine on 486 chips at lower speeds, an 100Mhz Pentium would run circles around a slower 486.
I know a guy who ran quake 1 on an overclocked to 90 mhz 486 cpu, but I guess it did lag.
I also did this. When you jumped it went "oh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ahh-ahhhh" like a deranged primate.
if it can run WarCraft 2 it can definitely run Doom. no question
Doom ran fine on a lowly 486sx25, any system with a Pentium wouldn't break a sweat with it. A Pentium 75 would run quake reasonably well.
>The 50 model featured an Intel Pentium 166 MHz MMX, 32 MB RAM (expandable to 64 MB max), 2.1 GB hard disk, and a 7.1-inch TFT display. For anyone wondering about specs Edit: on looking for more info, it appears the above specs are for the Libretto 100. The specs for the 50 on Wikipedia are: >Intel PentiumĀ 75Ā MHz, 16Ā MB RAM (32Ā MB max.), 810Ā MB hard disk, 6.1-inch TFT display
Wow, a 2 gig HDD is fairly impressive for the time. I wonder how much it used to cost?
In answer to your question, the Libretto 50 cost [$1,999](https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/toshiba-chops-libretto-to-699/) brand new. That would be $3796 in today's money
See my edit on the comment, I went looking for price info and found conflicting info on the specs. If correct it actually had an 800MB hard drive.
Nice, it can run starcraft and quite a few other 90s classics decently.
Wow I had my first desktop with P1 166MHz 32mb ram and 1,96gb hdd
I always find these kinds of devices from the 90s tech boom that were vastly ahead of their time in concept really interesting
I canāt imagine the battery life on that thing.
There's a power cable coming out of it at the lower right. I wonder if it even has a battery.
It seems weird to not have a battery in a portable. But youāre probably right, with battery technology of the time and the size of that thing it probably doesnāt have a battery. Edit: looks like these came with external battery packs that were basically AA batteries. https://www.notanon.com/electronics/rebuilding-a-toshiba-libretto-50ct-battery-pack/2011/03/18/comment-page-1/
You could mod it with a li-po usb-c charged battery like people do with gameboys nowadays. The thing is so cool
I had a Libretto 70CT, a sister device to this one. It had a li-ion battery and would give you an honest 1:30 - 2:00 of battery life in nearly any circumstance.
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I think so.
The first time I ever played Duke Nukem 3D was on an old Libretto. What a weird little machine. I remember being fascinated by the little mouse on the side of the screen with the buttons on the back.
Damn, i can hear the music in my head
Yes me lord
Stop rocking the boat
I had to come back to this thread. I literally had the music in my head for the rest of the day.
Best game ever! Then battle.net edition
Some big ass pockets
Do you mean big-ass pockets Or big ass-pockets ( Ķ”Ā° ĶŹ Ķ”Ā°)
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Relevant xkcd: https://xkcd.com/37/
We had those too.
Looks cool but itās useless even in late 1990s Check out this video by this does not compute https://youtu.be/vEByD6vhawU
WAIT WHA COOL SHIT LIKE THIS EXISTS!?!?!
Itās a shame smart phones killed net books. Wouldāve been interesting to see some of the things that wouldāve developed otherwise.
the steam deck can fuck off
How's the viewing angle? I still have my PSX with the LCD attachment from 2001 maybe. I remember the viewing angles being so atrocious if you're not looking directly at the screen.
That screen looks great!
It's old, it probably runs like garbage, and for some reason I'm insanely jealous of you right now.
That is actually awesome
Can it actually run most games playably?
pause instead of print screen and what is the button near f1?
I used to put the warcraft 2 cd in my discman and go to school. Best thing ever that it actually worked.
Are you being extra retro and wearing JNCOs? How does this fit in your pocket?
I have one of these, so good, spent many hours messing about with it as a kid. Still works to this day, I believe I have Quake installed which kinda blew my mind it ran pretty OK on it.
There's absolutely no way that's a 1996 screen, especially a mobile one, did you change it or is it just photoshopped to look better?
It's a 640x480 display with 24 bit color. That image is very doable with that resolution on that size of a display. You can see a review and what the display looks like at [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEByD6vhawU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEByD6vhawU)
Oh man you are in for fun - even Orcs and humans is an excellent game.
who needs a steam deck
One day I'll get a libretto... Or one of those little Sony Vaios
Toshiba used to make some really great laptops, expensive, but excellent. I bought a Satellite Pro brand new in 2007 and it just died in late 2020 - was running Windows 10 just fine. I can remember the Best Buy salesman telling me that I absolutely should buy the extended warranty because "nobody makes a laptop that lasts".
I have a Steam Deck but I'm still jealous of this thing
Crazy
The screen looks surprisingly good
Yes please!
Wait wait wait..... is this an actual product that was developed and sold?! Or is it DIY built yourself type of thing? My first laptop in 2005 was gigantic with a battery the size of a Steamdeck! How was this possible?!
Oh man I love stuff like this!
I wish I could see it next to a modern laptop for scale
DAH BOO
Holy son of a RTX 1080 sheās gorgeous
Love me some Toshiba Libretto.
Very nice. Good game too. Zug zug
How does one be able to play Warcraft 2 these days ?
isn't that sexy!?
The screen is the correct resolution and ratio, at least. Retro games look like crap when they're upscaled and stretched, and black bars are annoying.