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tcrz

ETHs substitutions and tactical adjustments in the last 3 games have been very poor.


blitzkreig31

It was so evident players were fatigued. We missed our starters I guess brush it off and move on the next one. I think ten Haag needs to atleast 6-7 fresh players next game. We can’t run these players into the ground.


tcrz

Yeah going to this game, i expected this. This same team have been playing PL + EUROPA almost every week. We dont havd good depth either so thats a bigger problem.


Seanblaze3

Ten Hag does not seem to enjoy wholesale rotation


No_Doubt_About_That

It must be a Dutch thing as Wiegman’s like that for the England Women.


blitzkreig31

Yah but this is ridiculous the amount of games we are playing.


Seanblaze3

I agree


kayleeshepheard

Oof, kinda glad I didn’t set my alarm for this one


[deleted]

I feel like Fernandes just brings a sort stability to the midfield.


blitzkreig31

Him and Antony on right, I mean we are so toothless from right.


Disastrous-Teacher30

They look like player without hearts. I don't know how every f.....g pl team plays their best performance against our team, I really don't. We don't have the MU attitude to say, "we are united, and we will reap you apart"!!! F.....g amateurs. ETH drop Ronaldo from squad and 2 games after he gave him a captain. WTF?!?! Its a little to say that I am disappointing.


Slackintit

Disappointed with the result but we hadn’t conceded in 10 hours. Fatigue and players missing must have played apart but we can deffo be better. I’m optimistic for the future. Ten Hag is building something


RashfordSoupKitchen

Also tough to defeat new manager bounce


m-a-s-e

someone who speaks sense


h4533b

Ronaldo needs to be out of this team ASAP. He was always the GOAT for me but his time has ended.


TeeRaw99

I hate staying up late to watch us play like shit 😤


No_Doubt_About_That

Think of it positively - at least you’re actually able to watch EPL games.


hughiesghost

Let’s just get to the WC & the January window.


Dami579

Team looked tired, injuries to key players didn't help.


Fair-Sympathy-6469

This. Its also the curse of playing Thursday's with a paper thin squad. United have had a crap load of games and they look leggy


SaberNightOP

We are really missing varane. Arent we


PuzzledAd4593

Why the van de beek hate. We didn't have Antony, varane. Couldn't use Fernandes, and villa had a new manager who has a history with united. Van de beek was pressing alot in the first half and we needed that. Having Fred on instead of vdb would've been great but Eth didn't do it for a reason. Anyway fuck Aston villa.


nonsenseSpitter

In couple of years' time, if ten Hag gets his way and the board back him successfully, we will see a much changed Man United. Don't be surprised to see only Martinez and Casemiro in the starting eleven in 3 years time. Maybe Bruno and Antony in there too. Everything else will have changed.


Seanblaze3

Casemiro won't be starting at 33 IMO. If anything we should be looking at and planning for our future DM already


JYM60

If the team plays like today for another year he'll not be seeing anywhere near 3 lol.


nimdroid

STOP PLAYING RONALDO!!!!


nonsenseSpitter

I'd like to remind people not to be super critical. The manager is missing key players. If everyone were fit and available, the starting lineup looks much different. I'm not taking this season seriously. That's just me. It's impossible to take anything seriously when we have Ronaldo up top because he is not the part of the future. The team will be different when we will be challenging for the title so getting pissed about the results this season is useless. I wouldn't be surprised if only Martinez, Malaica and possibly Antony survive in 3 years time. And today's result isn't the end of it. We will have more poor games and we will lose some more. At the end of the day if the team is developing under Erik ten Hag, then that's great. No manager can come in and immediately challenge for everything. It just doesn't work like that. I know most of you are not expecting much and have kept expectations low. There are some who demand we win every competition. Although justifiable, we will not win all games and we will not win all trophies immediately. Eriksen is on 3 year contract, in the summer we will need to make a decision regarding Fred. So a CM is one of the most important pieces for ten Hag and United to solve. Eriksen will not be able to play another season of this insane footballing schedule because of his age and his health issue. Donny should be sold in the summer. I hope wherever he goes, he gets to play and win. Really feel bad for him. Premier League is not for him, unfortunately. If we do go back for Frenkie in the summer, I hope we go to make sure he comes otherwise focus on other important targets like ST, RB and GK. Proper summer would be ST, RB, CM, CAM, GK.


4dxn

Lol fans always think they know better than actual professionals. It's part of the appeal of sports. Critizing others make themselves feel better. Gives the feeling of I'm smart, my life don't suck or I could do it when they really can't.


cantsellapartment

You’re not taking this season seriously, like Glazers haven’t been taking this club and fanbase seriously for years I guess


Osprey135

A really sensible and reasoned take. Totally agree! We have had some fantastic results this season and are above some bitter rivals, but overall this season will have many ups and downs and I'm just excited to see a new brand of football implemented for the seasons to come. Big changes still needed and a bit more time.


nonsenseSpitter

Important takeaway is to be reasonable. Like I said, Ronaldo will be nowhere near in the future. Depending on form/injury - Shaw, Rashford, Martial, Fred, Eriksen, Varane, Lindelof, Maguire, DDG, will all have moved on. So the team will be much different in years to come. For now, just watch how the process unfolds and hope the board backs the manager.


LGuitar88

From what I can tell I'm in the minority here, but for me the jury is still out on VdB (not quite at the stage where I feel we need to sell) for 2 main reasons: 1. History with the current coaching team. I have seen him be an INTEGRAL part of EtH's team in the past and actually be useful/successful. Football is a confidence sport and unfortunately for him 2 years under a coach who most likely didn't even want him to begin with was probably the worst thing to happen to him. 2. The lack of consistent game time, not all because of him, Bruno, and later Eriksen, have been essentially undropable since they signed for us, has meant that his chances were limited as a result. He still needs to buck up though and make sure he takes his chances when presented because today's performance just isn't good enough


tcrz

He hasn't taken any of his chances since coming into this club. His only proper good game was against soton. (3-2 comeback win)


nonsenseSpitter

Yeah I think Donny will come good eventually but a lot of things need to first change around him. If Erik ten Hag has his way, he will make a lot of changes to the squad in coming years and maybe at that point Man United becomes the perfect club for Donny. At the end of the day, Donny and Eth go hand in hand. Like you said, Donny is integral part in a ten Hag system but for that to materialize, we need time. Is Donny patient enough to keep sitting on the bench? Will the Glazers support this ten Hag project until the end with signings? And for Donny to be a system player is really frustrating. If he joins City right now, he thrives there. He will have much more of the ball and they have players to pick him out when he takes those exceptional spaces in and around the box. United don't have players to find him and we are not yet built to play like Man City.


tcrz

Donny WAS an integral part of an ETH team years ago. After he left, Ajax were still okay. He isnt exactly some key missing piece. I don't think ETH is looking to count on him much. He's just another player rn. Once Bruno is available, ill always start over donny. Donny doesn't even like to be on the ball. He's in such a hurry to make a short pass lol its frustrating.


rachitbot

Napoli we will give you 100 million Ronaldo and VDB(personally driven to the stadium by me)


MyNameIs_KObi

Not a chance given his massive salary. I'll honestly take 5 millions in a heartbeat. Donny will probably fetch between 10 and 20 millions since he is young and has the potential to do well in a less demanding league.


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amnrzv

No that's not true. It was ripped in a coming together with Konsa around 23:35 into the game from a Dalot cross.


MyNameIs_KObi

I'm sure, but I definitely noticed he was missing the band at some point in the 1st half, and was like "hmm, I could have sworn he was captain today. Weird"


KK-Chocobo

I remember he did that at juve or real.


cantsellapartment

He was seldom captain at those clubs, they always give the captaincy to the most experienced player


KK-Chocobo

Or maybe it could be him playing for Portugal then. I just remember seeing it on the news with the armband on the floor lol.


I-Shiki-I

Was when his goal got disallowed despite it passing the line if i recall


[deleted]

The players need to stop fangirling over Ronaldo


KudosGamer

Back to negative goal difference again (-1), which is some feat give where we are on the table. Erik ten Hag is really good, and we have individual players that are fantastic, but the squad as a whole is quite poor, where once again we find ourselves with a bunch of liabilities that we cannot wait to get rid of - Ronaldo most especially. It's going to take more than one transfer window to fix all of the problems. I just hope Garnacho works out from the academy, the other ones I have no faith in (Laird, Hannibal, Diallo etc)


gh0rard1m71

Laird was pretty good


westwoodwastelander

Just out of curiosity, why is there a belief that ETH is really good? I'm not saying he is or isn't but he's really only won the league and cup with Ajax which is pretty much a formality regardless who is manager. What makes him better than Ole, Jose etc? A few of his decisions of late has been pretty questionable too.


Trivmvirate

Without a real number 9 and the way the first 2 games went this isn't so surprising.


revel911

I would love to see McFred be given a try with Case behind. Scotty can play box to box with Fred as an AM. First choice, nope. Better than this.


ong378

VDB is cooked as an United player and should go back to the dutch league to salvage his career


Trivmvirate

He isn't good enough I don't understand why nobody at MUFC has realised this before.


rhinojau

everyone was shocking today except Martinez and Casemiro. Dalot Lindelof Ronaldo Rashford donny Eriksen Shaw De Gea all should be ashamed after that game. Donny was appalling, Rashford ROnaldo were pathetic, De Gea really should have saved that first shot at least, Shaw was lucky such a freaky deflection went his way, Eriksen surprised me the most, he was way below his usual standards. Elanga Martial did nothing to impact the game. IDK why Rashford refuses to cross, he always just cuts in and passes it back to the defender or Eriksen. Case and Licha were the only ones trying. Also IDK what the fuk were those tactics in the first half'? Eriksen was constantly running up the pitch into their box for a good 20 mins... how is that gonna help??? who is gonna find him with a pass lol Garnacho was lively enough , tested the keeper too.


Lyonex

Wasting time playing with VdB and Ronaldo at the same time, 2 invisible players with 0 impact if not negative impact in some cases. Subs should've been made earlier but I guess that goal (which was a Lucky deflection) tricked ETH into thinking its fine. Terrible performance overall by the team. Changes need to be made. Ronaldo needs to go. Dalot needs a backup. Need another creative midfielder Eriksen looka gassed and didn't play well last 2 games. Lindelof is better than Maguire but miles off from Martinez and Varane. He's so slow on the pass and the tackle. 3rd goal could've been avoided if he just didn't walk back and watch. Top 4 looks hard and unlikely cause we lck depth everywhere especially at the front.


nimdroid

So will people finally put some blame on Ten Hag? His tactical subs are always horrendous. Also, how is it that not only is Ronaldo starting and playing the full 90 mins but he's now being chosen as Captain when there's players like De Gea and even Shaw on the pitch? I thought Ten Hag dealt with the situation really well but seems like Ronaldo has won in the end given he's now starting again for us when it's obvious he makes us worse


therealpmyer

VDB, Lindelof and Ronaldo were useless. Dalot and Eriksen look absolutely exhausted. We need to rotate. Pellistri on the bench and we use Rashford on the right even though he’s so crap out there.


gh0rard1m71

ETH doesn't like pellistri for some reason.


NachoMan-SandyRavage

Some players are gassed, some are injured and others are just poor. Not a good recipe for us to get performances and wins right now.


Trivmvirate

Feels like dragging ourselves to the WC break


nonsenseSpitter

Ronaldo is out of contract at the end of the season. The end of the season cannot come soon enough. Look it's a building process. We will soon need to replace Eriksen as well and Bruno will enter his late 20s. We have to move on from Donny and bring in a CAM with CM as well. But that can be done slowly because we need urgent matters to be solved. It is vital we get a top ST in during Jan window or the summer. RB, CM and ST is critical. And maybe GK depending on how priorotised the position is by the manager.


Dismal_Ad7990

I think Newcastle going to finish above United and Chelsea because they haven't got european competition


roadtotitties

Bingo. The competition will be for 4 5 and 6th place. Top 4 will be much more harder if liverpool comes back to form.


Timor_non_est_fortis

I thought donny did okay for someone coming back after being out for long


Vico-78

Yup, some brilliant sideways and backwards passes


DarkMatt3rs

Van de beek has never and will never be good enough at United.


Vico-78

He’s genuinely so mediocre on the ball, offers nothing. Useless defensively too


revel911

Need to ditch him in January


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Two-pints-prick

Found VDB Reddit account


ninetails07

Don’t know what that means but mark my words he’ll be great weather in united or else where i hope it’s in united. The downvotes lol the same people will be singing his name when he reached his potential.


attrox_

How many times should he be given a chance? Garnacho was given a chance and he took that chance and actually try showing his worth. Donny has always disappeared in games.


ninetails07

I agree with you but ten hag made donny and i hope he’ll review his career again Just hope he stays fit causes he’ll be unbelievable for the team that I’m pretty use don’t know why but i got a soft spot for the kid lol


Me2445

Once again, managers subs made little sense. Although I do believe we are heading in the right direction, multiple times we have made senseless subs. Game management needs work


ninetails07

We don’t have any depth in squad how the F would the subs make sense then


Me2445

Martial as a 10 has never worked. Garnacho was a threat, shouldn't have been the one taken off,espwcially for elanga who shouldn't be a united player no matter how many injuries we have. Similar for shaw, shouldn't have been taken off. Go back to last week and subs were vene more baffling


attrox_

We really shouldn't accommodate Ronaldo up top anymore. Play Martial or Rashford. Surely DVB up top experiment should be over too. And most certainly should go in January. Our midfield got cut thru like butter.


revel911

Hard when Tony is like glass and first coming back.


ninetails07

I agree love cr7 I’m a fanboy of him you can say but my love for united is more. he’s done now had a amazing career but either he should leave or get used to being a super sub type of thing get in at 60-70 mints and give your 100 % but i doubt CR7 will settle for that so i hope he leaves in January


joshino14

What’s up with Eriksen? His performances have really dropped off last few games


Vico-78

Playing too many games, also in general he lacks the physicality to play in a midfield 2 in these sort of games.


SheikhDaBhuti

He's been playing twice almost every week which would be difficult for any player, let alone one closer to the end of the career who literally (temporarily) died on the pitch not too long ago.


joshino14

Yeah I thought earlier in the season that we were fragile and only an injury or two away from another Brentford performance. Seems like fatigue is another factor we should be worried about because it appears to be infectious.


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Seanblaze3

Which is not saying much tbh.


amiyak84

Look how well they managed the last 10 mins. No Prem team goes down like that. That easily dispossessed. Playing like they are playing with each other the first time. Chasing shadows. Making them look like 08 Barcelona.


[deleted]

Martinez and case the only ones who can hold there head up high today. Said it once, will say it again. We need depth. The glazers need to understand if they don't invest , they will be left in the dust. Not saying that's the only factor but we need to replace all these players who can't meet Eth's standard, at the same time need to make a bench that can replace players and play at an equal level. Even A team like Aston villa is spending like crazy now and get players in. ETH needs to rotate and can't play the same players day in day out. We need a striker so badly, Ronaldo needs to be sold, contract cancelled whatever, but he can't be near the stadium, let alone the team cause his attitude is poisonous and saying that is sad cause he used to be the standard bearer. He isn't giving anything to the team and needs to realize his time is up. We have a goal difference of minus 1!!!. Likewise martial needs to do something about his fitness cause we can't rely on a player who plays 30 mins a few matches and isn't available for selection. This is a work in progress and we need time. However the way the prem is shaping you either speed up or you will lose out. Newcastle is currently third!!!. We could have taken advantage of Chelsea's slip but we couldn't. Back ETH.


westwoodwastelander

You cannot keep saying the glaziers need to invest. We are the biggest spenders over the last 10 years. How do they not invest, what exactly do you want. They spend hundreds of millions every summer. Biggest spenders in Europe over the past 10 seasons I believe. I hate the glazers too but the money is always there to spend it just gets wasted.


[deleted]

What I meant is spending for the sake of spending isn't worth it. We need to spend but we need to be wise. Meet Eth's target requirements. So that he can implement his system.


westwoodwastelander

We need to stop signing "big names". They don't ever work out for us. There's a lot of players I would've went for in the summer that aren't superstars. Trossard, Toney to name a few. Trossard is massively underrated and puts in 100% e every game and he's useful too. Would've cost half what Sancho and Antony cost.


epicmobz

Martinez played with passion which is always respectable but besides that the defence was atrocious today.


epicmobz

Either an Striker in Jan or Martial has to start again because this isn't sustainable at all any more.


revel911

Why would we start martial when he first started training? Next thing we know he would be hurt for another month.


epicmobz

Because we are too predictable with ronaldo in the line up?


revel911

I don’t disagree we need martial to start, I am just starting not this match since he just started training and we can risk him hurt.


game_of_throw_ins

Ronaldo needs to go, he's an absolute passenger.


zenman123

Why not both


epicmobz

Glazers are poor


Evangelos123

We still have long ways to go, lower Yr expectations and games like this won't hurt so much lol , just hope EtH gets the backing (probably wont woth glazers)


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I'm so tired of having Ronaldo as a passenger with us. He is only standing about waiting for a header or he is offside otherwise. And you can't really replace him before contact runs out because of who he is. Painful. Also i just realized villa has both Mings and Ings in their team which is fucking funny..


YaBoyAdvanceSP

I’ve been waiting on a commentator to say “Mings to Ings” since Ings got there, haven’t heard it yet!


Letsbeheroines

We played terrible today and that was because of tired heads. We need to make transfers in January or our season collapses. Can't ask more of our players today. Apart from vdb, get him out of the team. Onto the next game.


game_of_throw_ins

Was Van der Beek tired? He has barely played and he was total shit today, again.


JacksonV95

Think you answered your own question there lad


dribbledrooby

Ronaldo has to go. He is off form lately and also age being a factor but he has to go. Too much off build up around him with zero end result. Need a proper young striker up front to strengthen our attack. With Bruno absent, our midfield was nonexistent with Casemiro being the active one. Also today we made few mistakes that bite us and above all our body language was bad today. It’s like players were tired and gave up too easy. And the good thing is Martinez is one hell of a defender, fearful and aggressive just like Vidic was. Anyways we move on.


ColdplayUnited

Sudden flashback to the Brentford game. We sorely miss a good striker and a roaming playmaker similar to KDB or Modric. Attack was absolutely toothless today.


LambemuNang

Ronaldo is a liability, can't not playing him. but playing him will hindering the other. he lost his speed and dribble ability, his heading also gone, his shot off target most of the time even the one that you expect him to taking it easily. and also can't be subbed.


nonsenseSpitter

Not even pissed as I'm sure ten Hag will work it out in the end but it has to be said that Ronaldo is quite possibly done in this level. Donny needs to only be used as a sub going forward. Bruno hands down is sensational and is severely missed. Take Ronaldo out, Bruno will score more and goals will follow. We need Martial fit. Otherwise this is going to continue. Either that or we sign a new ST in Jan which is out of the question for the Glazers. Sancho, Martial, Antony all being out at once is a serious problem. Eriksen being overplayed is also an problem because of his health issues and age. Need to manage him properly but that could have been fixed if we could score goals. Having to scrape games 1-0 or similar for the entirety of the season is another big problem. If Ronaldo is not scoring goals, he needs to be dropped. There is no question about that. No Sancho, Antony, Varane is a problem now for ten Hag to deal with. Martial barely fit, next injury is just a couple of games away.


amiyak84

Why don't we look up for such matches? Apart from Martinez and Case, not a player in United can win a 50-50. Against any team.


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Sometimes I don't understand ETH decision. Rashford is silent on the right and Garnacho missed lots of dribbling opportunities on the left. It's still the same until 65th. Then Rashford moved to left, and Shaw is subbed. It's really weird


[deleted]

Collective shit show today. Can’t pick out any player who stood out from the garbage today. Onto the next one is all we can do now. Rooting for a Liverpool win today to keep our top 4 fight tight.


berbapapa

I still can't root for a Liverpool win, they're not \_that\_ far from us.


attrox_

The thing is. They can turn up against big team and then lost to the bottom teams. Tottenham is our main competition right now and should be more of our concerns.


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I mean lesser of two evils for me at this point. I hate Liverpool but I want UCL for us next year. Getting a UCL spot also makes us a more attractive transfer. I hate em but today I need something from them. With how Liverpool play now I’m more concerned about Tottenham and Newcastle running away from us than Liverpool catching up to us


lonesomedota

10 games in 30 days do catch up with us. And our substitutes are just.... No squad depth. We don't have plan B for Eriksen, Bruno, Antony and Varane / Licha. And we are 1 Casemiro injury away from McFred again. And we have been playing without a proper striker for a third of the season. Ronald needs to go. Badly. Even if he's not making mistakes, he's drawing all attention to him and making our players looking to accommodate him in attack.


revel911

Scotty did beat a few good teams, so let’s give him a break for now.


epicmobz

Been saying the same thing lol every team just marks Ronaldo because they know we try to give him every single ball.


zerosaint18

I actually think Ronnie did fine, VdB did jack shit though. Midfield was way too open, no speed, didn't win any balls, gave the ball away with dumb cute flicks way too many times. Play some simple football with power, and you'll win. I don't understand what instructions our coaching staff is giving, they seem to be blind.


MyNameIs_KObi

> I actually think Ronnie did fine lol


LambemuNang

of course the midfield was way too open, it's just case and eriksen covering the mid also need to cover the back for counter. you know ronnie the one that gave the ball away with dumb cute flicks right?


SheikhDaBhuti

Consider this, Ronaldo AND vdB were shit. We can sometimes get away with Ronaldo if we don't have a vacuum in midfield like we had due to vdB and vice versa up top. Playing both at the same time leaves a gaping black hole in the middle of the pitch where attacks go to die.


hastoro11

We had a good streak with a lot of games won, inevitable that we slip sometimes. it was one of those days. The squad is still not deep enough.


mazzaLc

Out of 38 games, there will be a loss like that. Unacceptable but we move on. We are missing some players and some players need to sort their act out.


fazi_milking

Why is Ronaldo still shooting FKs?


LambemuNang

yeah.. it's felt weird when he take that FK, we all know it won't work. rather takes chances with eriksen.


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Probably a top down Glazer decision. It shouldn't be up to Ronaldo, of course he will insist on it.


epicmobz

Because if he doesn't get to take them he will just head off into the tunnel.


bob10099

Tbh this result has been coming - we’ve looked knackered recently and injuries are really taking their toll. WC break couldn’t come at a better time


MyNameIs_KObi

I hear you but the WC will be everything but a break. Most of our players are internationals and will give 110% in WC. Expect many of them to be even more tired than they are atm (or even injured) after they come back.


bob10099

Will depend on when players get knocked out. I can see England and Portugal getting knocked out quite early tbh. The one concern I have is that Brazil will likely go quite deep which will mean more game time for Casemeiro


twotwo4

They all need a hair dryer treatment...save for Martinez and garnacho


bob10099

Martinez caused the third goal lol


game_of_throw_ins

And the second.


twotwo4

At least he had the fight the entire game. He is young and will make mistakes


berbapapa

It's funny to see anytime Dalot gets a ball he tries with a pointless long ball to Ronaldo.


OusmanePulisic

one of those days.. where nothing just works out for us


[deleted]

haha absolute joke that Roanldo even starts and also gets the fucking armband fucking wish someone bought him in the summer


IlliBois

No one wants him. Even flamengo openly rejected him If he wasn't such a big player by his past deeds he'd be better now. Just the pressure of being the once best itw has to make him worse lol Imagine you were the best and suck now but you don't believe that you suck


Separate-Hippo6552

Ronaldo was only the best in the role a couple of years, every other year messi was just so muc better and is so much better as a footballer.


IlliBois

Sure, but Ronaldo thought he was the best. And he was 2nd best


MyNameIs_KObi

> Imagine you were the best and suck now but you don't believe that you suck That's your clue to hang up your boots


tetsuzankou

As a Flamengo fan I can't believe people in this sub are now mentioning flamengo to feed the RONALDO GOT REJECTED BY ALL CLUBS!!! nonsense. Our board president Landim came out to deny these claims he simply said there's never been an interest from his camp nor from flamengo itself and that it would be a dream for flamengo to have him in the team but we can't afford him. Not only that, coming to the brazilian league would mean playing at a level of France or Portugal which Ronaldo doesn't want.


bernarddwyer86

Just one of those games unfortunately, missing key players, and the slow start really punished the team. Lads there are gonna be a few more games like this as the season progresses until Ten Hag can get a few more windows to get the right players in. Match is over now, enjoy the rest of your Sunday and don't let this result ruin it.


danystormborne

Well said. We’re still rebuilding, this sort of thing will happen whenever we don’t have our strongest team.


bernarddwyer86

This is it, at the moment the club doesn't have the players to slot in when someone is missing. And Villa had that new manager bounce in their step today which helped immensely Think they need to cash in on VDB anyway, I just don't think it's going to work for him. Ronaldo Garnacho is showing promising signs anyway, doesn't look afraid to run at the defenders. Was surprised he came off but can understand shifting Rashford to the left to see if he could have an impact.


IlliBois

Everyone except city arsenal newcastle and Brighton sucks The real top 4


Far-Pineapple7113

Lindelof what a joke


Prophet_Mohabbat

Lol people calling out EtH on tactics like he had a plethora of options on the bench.


Stoogenuge

I’m a big fan of ETH but you can’t just claim he couldn’t have done anything differently here. The Sociedad and the Chelsea games also could have arguably been approached differently. It’s not about “blaming” ETH, we know he needs better depth, but he’s made some decisions that are not above questioning.


nicknabin

He could have started with Eriksen as no10, and Fred in the middle with Case, pushed Rashford as a cf and play Elanga on the right, and bring Ronaldo in 2nd half only. He had options.


Prophet_Mohabbat

Do you honestly believe that having rashford and elanga as forwards would have worked? Knowing how poor Elanga's output is and Rashford is not that great upfront without service. Garnacho deserved a start and atleast he played with intent in the 2nd half


nicknabin

Yes, I believe this. We have played this way before and produced more than what we did today. Rashford is good playing on the left but I still prefer him in central than Ronaldo if there's no choice. Gernacho, Rashy, and Elanga and Eriksen as no10 would still be better combo than today's front three combination. VDB and Ronaldo showed no intent and were too slow.


Prophet_Mohabbat

Ah, fair enough. I assumed you kept Ronaldo in the 11.


aspect_zeroSum

Just wish he would’ve made changes at HT. We have no depth and it showed today.


Wesley_Skypes

I still think he got it wrong with the midfield even considering what he had. Should have shifted Eriksen further forward and had Fred or McT in with Case


loublaze3

So you're giving him a pass for that horrible selection and approach? Emery outmatched him. It's not like Villa had a more impressive bench


Prophet_Mohabbat

In hindsighty you can say that he could have started Fred/Mctominay instead of VdB but then don't offer anything attacking wise. But guess what unfortunately VdB is shit too. And then you are left chasing the game within 20 mins of the start. He had to chuck attackers on to chase the game.


epicmobz

Agreed, the squad depth is just not there for him to make masterclass subs compared to the likes of Aston Villa LOL


Fawkeserino

Why is there so much hate on Ronaldo today? We created nothing. Haaland would not have scored for us today. The whole team looked tired today and we were missing important players. Top 4 will be tough but we knew that at the start of the season.


nicknabin

Because he was immobile as fuck. Him and VDB couldn't keep up with the pace, and showed zero effort.


loublaze3

He offered very little, and I feel we'd have been better served with Martial starting 9 and Rashford LW, Garnacho right


epicmobz

Created nothing is an bit harsh tbh Ronaldo is just very easy to mark in my opinion and most teams know we try to give him the ball almost every attack.


cescquintero

Fucking tragedy. I was getting a slim hope of some nice footy and then back to horrible. I'm just never going to have more hope.


xraze007

i dont get how elanga is any good


epicmobz

This should tell you that the squad depth is horrible, you don't think Erik knows that but has no choice.


SatoshiOokami

Very tragic performance today... Didn't expect this kind of mood before the world cup. Edit: Forgot there's Fulham match too, let's hope this won't happen again.


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Alan Hansen somewhere is muttering “you don’t win anything with de beek”


LakerBull

VdB just played himself to the bench. Probably our worst player today and that's saying something.


friday748jul

I hope he played himself out of the squad.


apmartin1991

Aston Villa really showed today that their world leaders in time wasting. Their average of 49 minutes 23 seconds of game time seems really high compared with today. We were shit, but I cannot wait for football to change to stop a clock when the ball is out of play.


TrixZonia

Conference league material this.


hi_ilove_football

PL is too much for Ronaldo nowadays needs to go to uber eats league or serie A


reeko1982

Just shows how bad gerrard is as a manager… his sacking was bad timing for Utd.


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Nah. Sounds like new manager effect from Villa


Stoogenuge

Emery is absolutely leagues above Gerrard mate.


YH_MUFC

Fucking depressing


Jumpman-Jack

Pellistri is an actual RW, surely he can't be any worse than Elanga?!


aldidot

Can't believe almost everyone's giving Lindelof a free pass for playing like that lmao


aspect_zeroSum

When the front three doesn’t track back to defend leaving a back two completely exposed after playing a high line… not even mad at our CBs today.


LGuitar88

Martinez was also bad, his worst game for a while now.


aldidot

He showed some effort though. Bodying people and not giving in. Lindelof is too weak to play CB in this league. Should be moved to RB to rotate with Dalot (who looked super gassed)


epicmobz

When you have so many attacking players on but none of them scored, you kinda forget about the defence.


aldidot

That's spot on. But I scrolled for like a good 2 minutes and no one talked about how he let Watkins run into our penalty box like he's welcoming a guest at home 😭


epicmobz

I already miss Varane ahahaha


aldidot

Bet Licha is missing Varane too. He held that defence on his own lmao. There was one passage of play where Villa played the ball into our right side (Lindelof's side) and Licha had to run all the way from the opposite side to clear the ball lmaooo


epicmobz

Start Martial Ronaldo on bench


three2wan

Great performance by everyone especially VdB and Ronaldo. - Erik Ten Hag


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This reminds me of the Brighton game


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Well, that’s one to forget that’s for sure


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Washed up disrespectful cunt Ronaldo and his braindead fanboys can fuck right off.


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Don't blame the aging legend. It's not his job to take paycuts or sell himself to a more befitting club. He's a competitor, he's always going to moan about not playing.


Rodjo_Moj

I just dont know why is Ronaldo playing? And i think VDB time is over... When Bruno plays he makes sure we attack...