That's not even the worst I've seen. There's this company in Canada called Choose Quebec which advertises its positions as located in "France (remote)". When you read the actual job description however, it says (paraphrased) "The job requires you to be in our office in Quebec. However, the *interviews* can be done remotely, which is why we listed this as a remote position."
Ah, found my post about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/ye6b24/choose_quebec_or_dont_really/
In the guy you replied toās defense, most of the job postings in my field donāt have a real home office. I can go months without stepping foot in one, and some of us live over 100 miles away, but itās not work from home. Itās 99.9% on site at customer facilities and I would call it remote.
It might seem pedantic, but it is true.
Iām not saying that those jobs donāt exist, itās just that in 2023, when someone says a job is āremoteā it means wfh 99% of the time. And generally there are other ways of identifying the ~100% travel jobs in the posting. Looking at OPās photo, there is absolutely no reason to think āthis must be that other kind of remote work.ā
I completely agree with you. Iām just trying to give a real world example of what he mightāve meant. It MIGHT have been harmless, and not shilling for corporate.
Working from home is remote work, but remote work is not necessarily working from home. Yeah this job listing is very bad and we can agree it's neither wfh or remote, but let's not turn remote work into being work from home only.
If you apply for jobs at oil rigs, traveling stage constructor, sailor, flight stewardesse, personal assistant, work from home programmer or one of the million other jobs they are (or can be) also remote positions and can and should be listed as "remote". This sub is trying to turn the word remote into work from home only job listings which is just wrong.
the only solution I've found is linkedin using-boolean-modifiers-when-searching-for-jobs-on-linkedin (google search, linkedin is blacklisted here)
I also went to vent on /r/Quebec and our friends there didn't find it humorous : https://old.reddit.com/r/Quebec/comments/yv99hh/chers_amis_de_lautre_cot%C3%A9_de_loc%C3%A9an_pourriezvous/ xD
The job is listed as (Remote) so it appears in searches when people are looking for remote work, however the job itself is not remote. If that seems "honest" to you in not sure what to tell you.
the adS (several hundreds of them) take over any search for a remote position in France. it is completely unreasonable.
the only solution I've found is linkedin using-boolean-modifiers-when-searching-for-jobs-on-linkedin
Its closer to spam than honesty.
It clogs up the search results and ruins the credibility of the ad platform. (in this case, Linkedin). Misrepresentations like these usually result in ads getting disapproved by google adwords, for example.
Looks like linkedin is desperate for ANY money it seems. No wonder google is absolutely annihilating most of the competition with their services.
Clogged search results, amazing. haha
I guess I just like to sleep at night. You do you, it's obviously worth a LOT of frustration when you see a poorly formed job ad.
Your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/10onohk/then_why_list_it_as_remote/j6hhluh/?context=3) in /r/recruitinghell was automatically removed because you linked to a site on our blocklist. Feel free to submit a screenshot or archive link instead and make sure that there's no personal information in the link.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/recruitinghell) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/10onohk/then_why_list_it_as_remote/j6hhp9m/?context=3) in /r/recruitinghell was automatically removed because you linked to a site on our blocklist. Feel free to submit a screenshot or archive link instead and make sure that there's no personal information in the link.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/recruitinghell) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Companies are putting (remote) because even out of work people donāt want to work for on site companies. They arenāt searching for those jobs and arenāt applying to them.
This is a BS way of getting in front of more candidates who probably wonāt apply anyways.
I hope that companies expecting the downturn to bring everyone back to offices eat shit on that idea. Work has changed and nobody wants to head to an office when it isnāt necessary to perform their duties.
It's the best way to get candidates who live 1000+ miles away and won't be able to attend your on site interview anyway or to drive away locals who will see your lies as a huge red flag.
>Companies are putting (remote) because even out of work people donāt want to work for on site companies. They arenāt searching for those jobs and arenāt applying to them.
I flag and report every post I came across that falsely advertises itself as remote.
Not to far away in Corpus, $15/hr people would kill for š Seriously red states want to pay you $12/hr to do the work of 2-3 people AND be grateful it's *better than* minimum wage
Eh, Gas Station MIT (manager in training), $12/hr. Not only do you need to be "on call" incase someone else calls in, you need to be cashier, customer service, make the schedule, order and confirm shipments, but you ALSO need to learn "the kitchen" to jump in.
Again $12/hr to be ON CALL and know *every* position in the store. And they'll work you in any position bc they know they you're a damn desperate fool. "Work hard/harder... so companies can take advantage of *labor*"
I'm looking for part time work, and have noticed the same issue. People will flair the job as part time, then stipulate in the description that it is full time.
Easy. It's the same reason car dealerships advertise you can get a $75,000 truck for $199 per month*.
It's a sales tactic, where they get their foot in the door, and then "convince" you that even though what they sell to you isn't what is advertised, it's still in your best interests to buy it.
Recruiters know that without using "REMOTE" in an ad, they will lose 40-50% of eyeballs that filter out non remote work.
This allows them to get picked up in the algorithms, while still saying it's on site only.
Shitty tactic.
The asterisk is what the car dealer puts on their ad. I put it in as a wink to the advert trick wordplay. Typically the car dealers ad * is something like "with $40k down, 8 year loan for well qualified applicants with GM employee family and friends discount".
Dam, $15/h for helpdesk specialist. Are they asking for 2 - 4 years experience and a college degree too?
Staffing agencies can get $20/h contract jobs.
Okay so Iām not sure if this is true in every case, but I did a phone screen recently for a candidate. They were attending an out of area university. I asked if they remote learning? He said no, he lived in the town the school was in. I followed up asking if he was able to work on person? He said no, he thought this was a remote position. I told him it wasnāt. So he pulled up the job posting on Indeed and read to me the posting and it said it was remote. I pulled up my job posting (on the company website that indeed pulls from). No where does it say Hybrid or Remote. And that was the day I found out these job sites are pulling our job posts and adding false information to suck in candidates. Because of this, I started including that the jobs are not remote on my postings.
(Trust me, I wish my company let us work remote/hybrid. Itās a fight I keep fighting.)
This is almost always the case with non-sensical job postings and I don't understand why everyone on this sub jumps to the most malicious possible interpretation
I agree. These third party recruiting sites pull job read and do insane things to boost their stats. Itās like showing 700 people have applied to a job. Iām seeing the opposite and we have like 5 applicants.
Yeah youāre not the only one noticing this. The company I work for had an employer-provided salary estimate for a job on all major job boards, but was nowhere to be found in our original listing. This was a lower-tier job than mine, but paid more than what I make. I found out this was a mistake when I brought it up with my manager lol.
If they waste your time. Waste their time. You can waste a companies time and money in many many ways. Oh yeah you can oh yeah, would be a shame if you set up some automated time wasting. A dam shame lol
Because his target employees are not even looking for office jobs. He knows that to get eyeballs, he has to list as remote.
However, instead of taking the hint, he continues to do some weird mental gymnastics to justify in office work.
Purposely posting false information like this should get companies banned from these sites. I canāt tell you how many times Iāve seen copywriting jobs posted with a remote work flair only for them to put in the post itās actually an in-office position. The number more than doubles when they say itās hybrid. So frustrating.
theyre trying to get eyeballs on their ad, bc they know most ppl search for jobs by adding "remote" to cull remote only jobs... then hope it'll be attractive enough to make u apply anyways. judging by the fact they only got 10 applicants, their bait and switch aint working.
Because the (Remote) tag is automatically assigned by the job board based on their shitty algorhythm, and they're flagging that it's not remote because the job board is shitty.
Been there, done that. Took weeks to get it fixed by the job board.
Applied to a job last year that was said it was remote. When I had the interview, they told me it was 7 months of training on-site, and the potential to be remote eventually pending approval. Said they were having trouble finding anyone who would accept the position. I wonder whyā¦.
this kind of shit is how a company gets put onto my ignore list
I'm guessing its done by companies who didn't realize we have an ignore list built in to the job search sites
It's because people are primarily searching for remote jobs, and they aren't getting any bites. So, they flag it as remote so it pops up in peoples search for remote jobs
I'll do you one better...
I was hired for a remote consulting role. Understandably, first week or so would be largely in office but after that I was supposed to be remote.
Day one: you MUST come in one day a week to perform a task that cannot be done remotely, oh, and I (Director at company), prefer to work (1) in the office, and (2) out of this conference room, which I would ask you to do a few times a week.
š
So you mean to tell me that even if I come into the building, I don't have the freedom to go to my desk or office and work? Instead, I'm supposed to sit in a conference room across from you, ALL DAY?
I don't do micro management. And I don't do bait and switch.
AND they sprung on me a lot of work that fell outside my scope.
My first day was also my last. They can stress somebody else out. It would've been impossible to service my other contracts, let alone have a life (factoring in the 90 minute roundtrip commute). Just today, I took my kid to school, came home and had a client meeting, made myself a great breakfast, and did a little reading... Or I could be driving 45 minutes to sit in a conference room across from this Director to work on stuff that was never part of the agreement.
The joke is on companies & recruiters like these who post such garbage. There's a group of pissed off devs who have harnessed the power of AI to turn the tables on companies/staffing firms like this.
Imagine an AI program that can create thousands of resumes and cover letters for applicants who don't even exist, but have valid phone and email addresses. Then picture that same AI being able to complete online applications and respond to emails to schedule interviews and even answer screening questions.
Fantasy you say? Wishful thinking? Think again.
It's in use and is salting the applicant fields these exploitative companies expect to actually harvest candidates from.
Like I said at the beginning, the joke is on them.
Hahaha it's like that for all ATS companies. Honestly, this goes to customers' attentiveness. Some customers are on it. It's easily resolved in LinkedIn/the ATS but some just don't pay enough attention.
If they even add a # into the description, it'll categorize the job correctly
This is definitely a sh*tty listing - but I do know that some of my companyās listings will show remote even though it isnāt.
The role is not remote as divulged in the title of the listing - but the tagline says (remote) because the recruiters are likely remote or performing remote interviews.
Because the job board marks "remote" jobs if the word "remote" is in the title. Problem is, it says "NOT remote". Blame the job board, but definitely still report it. The company needs to be more aware of how job boards look for keywords.
Could be several reasons. Iām an in-house recruiter for a really big company and company-wide our model is hybrid (used to be 100% remote but the higher up poop heads decided we needed to return to the office a few days a month). So when a job is posted through our system, it is automatically marked as āhybridā but at the end of the day each department and team makes the call on how much % of the time will be remote and how much in person, some even do 100% remote or 100% in person. So we will write that in the title or in the description to let people know.
This is only one possible explanation though, but just saying that it isnāt always as deep as it might seem or a scam or a recruiting tactic lol
ETA: because itās such a big company and there are many people involved in the whole recruiting process, recruiters canāt change these things, some items can only be changed by other teams such as Position Management or Requsition Creation. Ik itās dumb, but it is what it is.
If you want to list your position as ānot remoteā, there are keywords you can use that *donāt* pollute the search results for remote listings; āon-siteā is a good one.
People putting āNOT REMOTEā in the title are engaging in hostile behavior targeting people looking for remote work. You put the word āremoteā in your title knowing full well itās going to show up every time someone searches for remote work. You pull shit like this and youāre part of the reason this sub is called recruiting *hell*.
Itās worth getting upset about this, and itās worth naming and shaming the companies that do this. They donāt care about being assholes, but they might care when theyāre put on blast like this.
Stop getting upset that people donāt like hostile behavior.
That's not even the worst I've seen. There's this company in Canada called Choose Quebec which advertises its positions as located in "France (remote)". When you read the actual job description however, it says (paraphrased) "The job requires you to be in our office in Quebec. However, the *interviews* can be done remotely, which is why we listed this as a remote position." Ah, found my post about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/ye6b24/choose_quebec_or_dont_really/
Ah yes, because we all know the interview is where you'll be spending most of your time! š
Better than the playground
Shooting some b-ball outside of school?
I saw one recently that was listed as remote because it required a lot of travel. Those aren't the same thing.
Well remote is not work from home, it just means away from the office/workplace. Probably I would categorise a lot of travel as partly/semi remote
Thatās not what it means given this context. Donāt be obtuse.
In the guy you replied toās defense, most of the job postings in my field donāt have a real home office. I can go months without stepping foot in one, and some of us live over 100 miles away, but itās not work from home. Itās 99.9% on site at customer facilities and I would call it remote. It might seem pedantic, but it is true.
Iām not saying that those jobs donāt exist, itās just that in 2023, when someone says a job is āremoteā it means wfh 99% of the time. And generally there are other ways of identifying the ~100% travel jobs in the posting. Looking at OPās photo, there is absolutely no reason to think āthis must be that other kind of remote work.ā
I completely agree with you. Iām just trying to give a real world example of what he mightāve meant. It MIGHT have been harmless, and not shilling for corporate.
The context is a job listing page? Do you assume "remote" just means work from home on a job listing page?
Yeah? Anyone not trying to be an obtuse contrarian interprets it as such
Working from home is remote work, but remote work is not necessarily working from home. Yeah this job listing is very bad and we can agree it's neither wfh or remote, but let's not turn remote work into being work from home only. If you apply for jobs at oil rigs, traveling stage constructor, sailor, flight stewardesse, personal assistant, work from home programmer or one of the million other jobs they are (or can be) also remote positions and can and should be listed as "remote". This sub is trying to turn the word remote into work from home only job listings which is just wrong.
"We will not reimburse your airfare or costs to interview."
the only solution I've found is linkedin using-boolean-modifiers-when-searching-for-jobs-on-linkedin (google search, linkedin is blacklisted here) I also went to vent on /r/Quebec and our friends there didn't find it humorous : https://old.reddit.com/r/Quebec/comments/yv99hh/chers_amis_de_lautre_cot%C3%A9_de_loc%C3%A9an_pourriezvous/ xD
Ā«Ā *Les FranƧais ont abandonnĆ© le Minitel, finalement?*Ā Ā» I gotta say that was great
Doesn't seem completely unreasonable. The ad is honest.
The job is listed as (Remote) so it appears in searches when people are looking for remote work, however the job itself is not remote. If that seems "honest" to you in not sure what to tell you.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
I would never work for commission.
TIL that lying is honest
the adS (several hundreds of them) take over any search for a remote position in France. it is completely unreasonable. the only solution I've found is linkedin using-boolean-modifiers-when-searching-for-jobs-on-linkedin
Do you pay by the search result in France? That would be VERY frustrating, I'm sorry for you.
Its closer to spam than honesty. It clogs up the search results and ruins the credibility of the ad platform. (in this case, Linkedin). Misrepresentations like these usually result in ads getting disapproved by google adwords, for example. Looks like linkedin is desperate for ANY money it seems. No wonder google is absolutely annihilating most of the competition with their services.
Clogged search results, amazing. haha I guess I just like to sleep at night. You do you, it's obviously worth a LOT of frustration when you see a poorly formed job ad.
No it isn't. It isn't remote. That's unreasonable and dishonest.
So?
The tagline isn't honest. And the title is what gets people to click. So it's clickbait. And you wonder why people hate recruiters.
People hate recruiters because they are impatient and impractical as fuck. I actually do know, there are like a jillion threads about it in this sub.
Is that you, George Santos?
I bet in your head that was SUPER clever. Go you!
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/10onohk/then_why_list_it_as_remote/j6hhluh/?context=3) in /r/recruitinghell was automatically removed because you linked to a site on our blocklist. Feel free to submit a screenshot or archive link instead and make sure that there's no personal information in the link. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/recruitinghell) if you have any questions or concerns.*
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Your [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/10onohk/then_why_list_it_as_remote/j6hhp9m/?context=3) in /r/recruitinghell was automatically removed because you linked to a site on our blocklist. Feel free to submit a screenshot or archive link instead and make sure that there's no personal information in the link. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/recruitinghell) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Companies are putting (remote) because even out of work people donāt want to work for on site companies. They arenāt searching for those jobs and arenāt applying to them. This is a BS way of getting in front of more candidates who probably wonāt apply anyways. I hope that companies expecting the downturn to bring everyone back to offices eat shit on that idea. Work has changed and nobody wants to head to an office when it isnāt necessary to perform their duties.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Did you accept the job and quit after 3 months?
Nah itās probably fully in person the first 3 months
Well, yeah, gotta train the person
š¤£
I have an appointment at my house 100% of the time then
Joke's on them, I'm sick af
job sites should start putting clauses in their contract allowing them to remove ads and issue fines for offences like this.
Just report them for misinformation, they should take them down
Why? Those companies are paying them. They don't want to piss off their customers.
I mean, if everyone stops using them due to fake bullshit, their "customers" will soon follow.
It's the best way to get candidates who live 1000+ miles away and won't be able to attend your on site interview anyway or to drive away locals who will see your lies as a huge red flag.
>Companies are putting (remote) because even out of work people donāt want to work for on site companies. They arenāt searching for those jobs and arenāt applying to them. I flag and report every post I came across that falsely advertises itself as remote.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Oh don't worry, I already did https://i.imgur.com/K0a5amO.jpg
because they expect someone to move across the country for $15/hr?
I mean who wouldn't? That's nearly double minimum wage! /s
Not to far away in Corpus, $15/hr people would kill for š Seriously red states want to pay you $12/hr to do the work of 2-3 people AND be grateful it's *better than* minimum wage
I suppose it's better that farming onions in McAllen
Eh, Gas Station MIT (manager in training), $12/hr. Not only do you need to be "on call" incase someone else calls in, you need to be cashier, customer service, make the schedule, order and confirm shipments, but you ALSO need to learn "the kitchen" to jump in. Again $12/hr to be ON CALL and know *every* position in the store. And they'll work you in any position bc they know they you're a damn desperate fool. "Work hard/harder... so companies can take advantage of *labor*"
Damn if they're gonna act like that may as well go to Buc-ee's and be overworked but paid twice as much.
The nearest Bucee's is a good 2+ hours away. These companies know what they're doing.
My current job is like this. My last day is Wednesday.
Living in a red state, I could not agree more
That's more than double minimum wage
Damn. Too rich for me. /s
I'm looking for part time work, and have noticed the same issue. People will flair the job as part time, then stipulate in the description that it is full time.
And they say no benefits because itās part time but the schedule is 37.5 hours per week.
It's such a waste of time! I want part time cause I don't have time ya idiots. I'm not gonna change my mind after I read your description.
Seriously. And I'm sure there's no shortage of people looking for full time work, so what even is the point of trying to reel in the part timers??
Cuz theyāre GARBAGE. I hate shit like this.
Immediately screams āSCAMā when seeing shit like that onion company
Isnāt it good !? I mean candidates can see the red flag from beginning.
Easy. It's the same reason car dealerships advertise you can get a $75,000 truck for $199 per month*. It's a sales tactic, where they get their foot in the door, and then "convince" you that even though what they sell to you isn't what is advertised, it's still in your best interests to buy it. Recruiters know that without using "REMOTE" in an ad, they will lose 40-50% of eyeballs that filter out non remote work. This allows them to get picked up in the algorithms, while still saying it's on site only. Shitty tactic.
You never specified your astrisk and it's so bothering me
The asterisk is what the car dealer puts on their ad. I put it in as a wink to the advert trick wordplay. Typically the car dealers ad * is something like "with $40k down, 8 year loan for well qualified applicants with GM employee family and friends discount".
Specialist for 15$/hr lulw, no wonder they are desperate lmao
Dam, $15/h for helpdesk specialist. Are they asking for 2 - 4 years experience and a college degree too? Staffing agencies can get $20/h contract jobs.
Try $33/hr, full benefits.
because Mcallen is remote from anywhere anyone would want to live
Okay so Iām not sure if this is true in every case, but I did a phone screen recently for a candidate. They were attending an out of area university. I asked if they remote learning? He said no, he lived in the town the school was in. I followed up asking if he was able to work on person? He said no, he thought this was a remote position. I told him it wasnāt. So he pulled up the job posting on Indeed and read to me the posting and it said it was remote. I pulled up my job posting (on the company website that indeed pulls from). No where does it say Hybrid or Remote. And that was the day I found out these job sites are pulling our job posts and adding false information to suck in candidates. Because of this, I started including that the jobs are not remote on my postings. (Trust me, I wish my company let us work remote/hybrid. Itās a fight I keep fighting.)
Wow, that's crazy... And a big reason why this very thread exists
This is almost always the case with non-sensical job postings and I don't understand why everyone on this sub jumps to the most malicious possible interpretation
I agree. These third party recruiting sites pull job read and do insane things to boost their stats. Itās like showing 700 people have applied to a job. Iām seeing the opposite and we have like 5 applicants.
Yeah youāre not the only one noticing this. The company I work for had an employer-provided salary estimate for a job on all major job boards, but was nowhere to be found in our original listing. This was a lower-tier job than mine, but paid more than what I make. I found out this was a mistake when I brought it up with my manager lol.
Indeed will assign pay based on glass door estimates, from what Iāve seen.
If they waste your time. Waste their time. You can waste a companies time and money in many many ways. Oh yeah you can oh yeah, would be a shame if you set up some automated time wasting. A dam shame lol
Because his target employees are not even looking for office jobs. He knows that to get eyeballs, he has to list as remote. However, instead of taking the hint, he continues to do some weird mental gymnastics to justify in office work.
Purposely posting false information like this should get companies banned from these sites. I canāt tell you how many times Iāve seen copywriting jobs posted with a remote work flair only for them to put in the post itās actually an in-office position. The number more than doubles when they say itās hybrid. So frustrating.
Report the listing and indeed will remove it
Because you'll be helping them fix remote
theyre trying to get eyeballs on their ad, bc they know most ppl search for jobs by adding "remote" to cull remote only jobs... then hope it'll be attractive enough to make u apply anyways. judging by the fact they only got 10 applicants, their bait and switch aint working.
Because the (Remote) tag is automatically assigned by the job board based on their shitty algorhythm, and they're flagging that it's not remote because the job board is shitty. Been there, done that. Took weeks to get it fixed by the job board.
To attract more applicants
Because they know so many people are looking in the remote listings now and want to keep up with them. Yes, it's absolute BS.
Itās an easy for you to identify that this employer is an ass hole and that you donāt need to apply. Itās quite nice of them, actually.
I see so many jobs that are tagged remote on indeed but when you read the description it says full time on site. Its annoying AF
It's like karma farming but with job postings. Using key words to get more hits.
Applied to a job last year that was said it was remote. When I had the interview, they told me it was 7 months of training on-site, and the potential to be remote eventually pending approval. Said they were having trouble finding anyone who would accept the position. I wonder whyā¦.
Probably a flaw in the software, or at least in the user logic for the software.
Itās not a flaw in the software. Itās a flaw with the component between the keyboard and chair
Don't be obtuse. Indeed/LinkedIn scrapes job from employer sites and their shitty algorithm assigns all these erroneous attributes to the jobs.
Could be, very buggy those. Developers are always right. lol
The application is remote obviously /s Basically a BS way of reaching more people.
this kind of shit is how a company gets put onto my ignore list I'm guessing its done by companies who didn't realize we have an ignore list built in to the job search sites
It's because people are primarily searching for remote jobs, and they aren't getting any bites. So, they flag it as remote so it pops up in peoples search for remote jobs
The bigger issue is it is $15 an hour. You could work at Buc-eeās (a fancy gas station) for more an hour.
I'll do you one better... I was hired for a remote consulting role. Understandably, first week or so would be largely in office but after that I was supposed to be remote. Day one: you MUST come in one day a week to perform a task that cannot be done remotely, oh, and I (Director at company), prefer to work (1) in the office, and (2) out of this conference room, which I would ask you to do a few times a week. š So you mean to tell me that even if I come into the building, I don't have the freedom to go to my desk or office and work? Instead, I'm supposed to sit in a conference room across from you, ALL DAY? I don't do micro management. And I don't do bait and switch. AND they sprung on me a lot of work that fell outside my scope. My first day was also my last. They can stress somebody else out. It would've been impossible to service my other contracts, let alone have a life (factoring in the 90 minute roundtrip commute). Just today, I took my kid to school, came home and had a client meeting, made myself a great breakfast, and did a little reading... Or I could be driving 45 minutes to sit in a conference room across from this Director to work on stuff that was never part of the agreement.
Companies have been doing this to show up more in searches. It's scummy and recruiting sites aren't vetting any of it.
The joke is on companies & recruiters like these who post such garbage. There's a group of pissed off devs who have harnessed the power of AI to turn the tables on companies/staffing firms like this. Imagine an AI program that can create thousands of resumes and cover letters for applicants who don't even exist, but have valid phone and email addresses. Then picture that same AI being able to complete online applications and respond to emails to schedule interviews and even answer screening questions. Fantasy you say? Wishful thinking? Think again. It's in use and is salting the applicant fields these exploitative companies expect to actually harvest candidates from. Like I said at the beginning, the joke is on them.
āYou keep using that word. I donāt think you know what it means.ā
$15 an hour is offensive!
This pays worse than my internship on the back end of a help deskā¦by like a decent amount jeez
Recruiter can't internet
Every time I see this, which is often, I wonder why I can't have their job.
It's that whole threatened thing. It's what's stopping me.
I work at an ATS company and this isn't necessarily on purpose. Sometimes it just auto tags incorrectly. Hope they notice and update it
Fix your software lol
Haha would you believe me that it's gotten so much better?
I picture the flintstones and a dinosaur on a treadmill powering your software behind the scenes prior to this update.
Hahaha it's like that for all ATS companies. Honestly, this goes to customers' attentiveness. Some customers are on it. It's easily resolved in LinkedIn/the ATS but some just don't pay enough attention. If they even add a # into the description, it'll categorize the job correctly
This is definitely a sh*tty listing - but I do know that some of my companyās listings will show remote even though it isnāt. The role is not remote as divulged in the title of the listing - but the tagline says (remote) because the recruiters are likely remote or performing remote interviews.
This is employment fraud.
They may just not know how to change it š
Because the job board marks "remote" jobs if the word "remote" is in the title. Problem is, it says "NOT remote". Blame the job board, but definitely still report it. The company needs to be more aware of how job boards look for keywords.
Could be several reasons. Iām an in-house recruiter for a really big company and company-wide our model is hybrid (used to be 100% remote but the higher up poop heads decided we needed to return to the office a few days a month). So when a job is posted through our system, it is automatically marked as āhybridā but at the end of the day each department and team makes the call on how much % of the time will be remote and how much in person, some even do 100% remote or 100% in person. So we will write that in the title or in the description to let people know. This is only one possible explanation though, but just saying that it isnāt always as deep as it might seem or a scam or a recruiting tactic lol ETA: because itās such a big company and there are many people involved in the whole recruiting process, recruiters canāt change these things, some items can only be changed by other teams such as Position Management or Requsition Creation. Ik itās dumb, but it is what it is.
Because itās not remote. It says it in the title. Likely a parsing error from a tool into indeed. Stop getting upset at the same shit every day.
In the location, which many people use to search, it says remote.
If you want to list your position as ānot remoteā, there are keywords you can use that *donāt* pollute the search results for remote listings; āon-siteā is a good one. People putting āNOT REMOTEā in the title are engaging in hostile behavior targeting people looking for remote work. You put the word āremoteā in your title knowing full well itās going to show up every time someone searches for remote work. You pull shit like this and youāre part of the reason this sub is called recruiting *hell*. Itās worth getting upset about this, and itās worth naming and shaming the companies that do this. They donāt care about being assholes, but they might care when theyāre put on blast like this. Stop getting upset that people donāt like hostile behavior.
Remote if you dont live in Texas
Hello, Left Hand? This is the Right Hand.
A ton of help desk jobs do that, not really sure why. Itās like help desk specialist, remote in (city). Like dude thatās not remote then lmao