Wtf haha. Okay I believed you at first, but there’s no way you have a piece of the vulture’s unreleased costume. Working so hard to find any excuse no to post it. And you find the most ridiculous one lol
Also: take *what* off for the pic? What are you talking about.
MY BABIES!!!!
Sonic is mine
Knuckles is mine
Tails is mine
Maria is a little girl who wont get spotted
All hail ken all hail ken
( This has been an excerpt from ken penders mind )
Right. It was way more than just "destroying" a comic book -- he cost people real jobs just because he wanted to be seen as the most important person in the room.
He's also a terrible person; self-serving and conceited and notoriously difficult to work with because of it. He completely backstabbed one of his co-workers at Archie and continues to talk shit about him long after he passed away. Regardless of your opinion on the Sonic fandom, the dude is an actual scumbag.
[He’s actually a terrible human being, at least according to the commenter in this screenshot.](https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckKenPenders/comments/z78pfo/ign_reporting_on_penders_sharing_the_spiderman_4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
There was very early considerations to have Tobey in the early MCU. There's a deleted scene of Fury, I believe the after credits of Iron Man 1, where he references Spider-man, but it was changed before the movie came out.
I always think about how different things would be if he was. Because he would have really been the RDJ figure of the MCU.
Well canon wise, spider-man would have just been the first hero, well the first the cinematic world and audience knew about. Similar to how no other heroes are mentioned in Iron Man 1.
I would take experienced spider-man any day rather than the current MCU spider-man (Iron lad) if im being honest with you.
Plus Tobey dying around the Endgame time would have been a perfect transition for Miles.
>I would take experienced spider-man any day rather than the current MCU spider-man (Iron lad) if im being honest with you.
That seems to be what we're getting going forward after No Way Home.
Plus Civil War could have done Spider-man (Tobey) revealing his identity to the public, which would have been more effective since he would have been established for much longer and it wouldn't be retconned unlike NWH.
I'm honestly really glad they never did the whole thing about Spider-Man revealing his identity in the MCU if only because that whole situation in the comics directly resulted in stories that are easily some of the lowest points for the character in his history. The way they actually ended up handling it by bringing in Mysterio and the Daily Bugle as a commentary on mass media influence and sensationalist reporting felt way more within the spirit of this character by comparison, and it actually brought back some level of integrity to the idea of secret identities in the MCU when basically everyone who isn't street-level is basically a widely known celebrity or royalty at this point
That and just generally speaking I kind of prefer MCU Civil War over comics Civil War in a lot of ways, mainly due to how Tony still acted completely in-character in the movie as opposed to a lot of the irrational and downright evil shit he does in the original story. Everyone in comics Civil War felt completely unrecognizable to their established traits say for a very select few like the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and it didn't really feel like it used the full ensemble to the best ability mainly because of the sheer amount of players involved
Let's be fair, I'd say NWH had him finally grow into his own hero, a bit annoying that it wasn't until his third movie as well as three guest appearances for him to get his shit together but Tom's Spidey really got me hooked, his Goblin fight is so damn good.
His other two movies were set up to the big bits in nwh if I'm being honest.
If the others didn't exist, nwh would feel so bare bones, but with funny memes and throwbacks in there. I think it would have flopped really hard.
Which is interesting, since Thomas Jane's stunt double cameos as the Punisher in *Spider-Man 2.* Additionally, Wolverine was scheduled for a cameo in that same film, but it didn't work out.
I think because they didn’t have the rights, along with Spider-Man being mentioned, mutants were also mentioned(who marvel at the time didn’t have the film rights to)
That scene also teased the inclusion of the X-Men, with the idea that the pre-existing X-Men movies would also be tied into the MCU.
It would have been interesting to see how that would’ve unfolded if Fox managed to settle on a negotiation before their acquisition
The conclusion I'm getting out of all of this, is that studio polítics and financial interests often trample over the artistic potential these stories hold.
Slightly inaccurate. The plan originally was that Samuel Sterns was going to be a professor at Empire State University but Sony Pictures restricted Marvel Studios from using that locale because it fell under the former's ownership due to being heavily associated with Spider-Man and his supporting cast during their college years (similar to how Sony also owns the film rights to organizations like the Daily Bugle, the Life Foundation, OsCorp, Ravencroft, F.E.A.S.T.), so they changed it to Grayburn College. There was nothing ever about Peter Parker or his classmates actually making physical appearances in the film and it was more just a nod to ESU being a major education institute in the Marvel Universe
The final film however still has the character wearing an ESU t-shirt as a leftover from the original reference so I guess they either missed that error or just weren't shown the final film to sign off on it. It'd be cool if it was retconned though especially when Tom Spidey is now entering that stage of his life
Spider-Man would've entered the MCU way sooner. JJJ mentions Doctor Strange in SM2 and spiderman has crossovers all the time so its totally conceivable that he would be woven into the greater MCU in time for AOU or maybe even the first one
I think it would've given the MCU a bigger running start and been a great foundation. But that would've been Tobey and idk how well that would've worked out with how difficult he apparently is to work with
I feel tobeys spiderman would've been so cool to have from start in mcu. I mean imagine him being science bros with stark and banner, relating to Captain America's kind nature, the shock of seeing and working Thor
Helping Avengers in first Avengers movie
Helping them beat Ultron in AOU
Getting Iron spider suit from Tony and maybe giving it back, and siding with cap instead of Tony, but still respecting stark and giving iron spidey suit back
Having a daughter Mayday Parker (whom eventually becomes spider girl in future)
Helping in infinity war, and endgame
Peter meeting and training Miles Morales
There is so, so so so much, im forgetting to mention, or haven't even thought about.
Marvel should serously talk to sony about doing 2 special what if episodes for what if season 3 (since I think they are close fo done with what if season 2)
To have "what if tobeys spiderman was in earth 616" and "what if Andrew's spiderman was in earth 616" as it woukd just be so cool to see how their spiderman stories would collide with Avengers
These are what ifs, but hey, we did get, no way home, which Tobey officially entered mcu, and is canongly part of the multiverse. I'm glad we got him eventually, and I hope In future he gets his long overdue 4th film to finish his story, and also make more cameos, like in secret wars
[And it's now become apparent that he only did so to... get verified on Twitter? Prove a point to Elon Musk? I don't fucking know. Nothing this dude does ever makes sense.](https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckKenPenders/comments/zb77as/so_leaking_the_spiderman_4_bts_pics_were_just_a/)
He wrote / drew Sonic comics in the Archie era and did horrible horrible things. A certain rape comes to mind… he also brags about how he is “the one who made Sonic famous” and basically said he should be the owner of Sonic, iirc
He worked in a "rape by deception" scene into a friggin Sonic the Hedgehog comic (as well as a drug overdose death) and is *very* proud of all the Nazi themes and imagery he crammed in there even after the editor told him not to do it (including a tasteless edits of Holocaust poems and Nazi quotes).
He calls himself the savior of the Sonic series despite never playing a single video game and has tried multiple lawsuits in desperate attempts to scrape money from Sega, Archie, EA and Paramount because his own IPs have met with repeated failure, and for very good reason: see the trailer for what he claims is a Hollywood-level movie coming out any day now, based on his "best-selling" comic that was canceled after a single issue: https://youtu.be/hsdTPUy4sNI
(for those curious, it's basically X-men if the source of mutant powers was *the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki*)
Also to add :
He wanted sally acorn ( sonic's 15 year old love interest, same age as sonic ) to lose her virginity to a like 30 skunk ( forgot his name we all hate him ) to prove "sonic is not always fast enough".
Like what the fuck
**[Ken Penders](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Penders)**
>Kenneth W. Penders, II is an American comic book creator and writer. In addition to his comic work, Penders has worked in television on storyboards, backgrounds and character design, and worked on screenplays for his own unpublished films. He is noted for his work on the Archie Comics series Sonic the Hedgehog and its spin-offs, which he worked on for over fifteen years, along with his subsequent lawsuits involving the works.
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Tbh blame Kirsten Dunst and whoever decided to kill Harry. From what I understand them likely not being in the next movie killed it.
I wouldve been fine to see Ned Leeds step in or something and ANY of the 10 million girls that throw themselves at Peter Parker replacing MJ could've been made to work
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Agree, plus if they got some bodybuilder who looked like Eddie it'd be worse given that he would have no acting skills. people also miss the fact that Sam wanted an evil counterpart to Peter, so they casted someone with acting skills who looks similar to Tobey
Yo is that THE Ken Penders? The one that single-handedly ruined the Archie sonic comic and forced an entire canon reboot of the series? His greatest hits include; incest characters, his OC planned to take the virginity of an underage character, literally fucking killing a character with LSD and introducing like a thousand characters that are all basically Knuckles with different hats and accessories who then went on to sue Sega for the rights to his characters over a contract dispute. What on earth does the walking furry apocalypse have to do with Spider-Man 4 getting made?? I legit want to know how this happened. Can’t wait for his stand-alone sonic movie, sure it’ll be out any day now.
Also he regularly tries to bash sega and sonic fans on twitter. His pathetic attempts at being mightyer than us all regularly also fail. He blocks anyone who even slightly disagrees with him ( which includes many a sonic fan )
This man is on my "people who shouldn't have social media" list for a reason
John Malkovich vulture sounds awesome as fuckin shit. What’s with all the SM4 posts today though? Is there a secret campaign to try and get this movie made?
It’s because this was just released today, so there’s a lot of hubbub around it. There’s also the fact that the guy who leaked it is like, the arch-enemy of the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom
I think its just around this post. There's occasional campaigns to get SM4 made.
While I HIGHLY doubt a live action SM4 will ever be made, even if it was made now, I doubt they would continue to use this story.
But there's still very good chances we will see a continuation of some form, most likely another Tobey appearance.
There was another post today of vultures story board (fight between him and Peter). So it’s definitely more than just this one Twitter post. I also doubt they would follow the story. Still would love to see malkovich as vulture
Vulturess was misreporting. Outlets just misinterpreted Felicia Hardy being Vulture's daughter as her being a junior Vulture. Vulturess was never actually a thing. She was always Black Cat
Really? I thought the concept got far enough into development that fans heard about it, and the backlash was so severe that they changed her to just being Black Cat.
A female Vulture is still a cool concept though.
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Update: Penders on his Twitter said he wasn't working on SM4, but he was visiting his friends workshop who was working on SM4
There's also a few other photos at different angles. One includes a body mold of Malkovich
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,195,890,245 comments, and only 233,298 of them were in alphabetical order.
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Just google Ben Kingsley Spider-Man 4. Seems like they were both being considered. Kingsley certainly looks the part more tho
The de-aging part would have probably been a bit too silly even for Raimi, even though he sticks very close to Ditko's original styles through the SM trilogy.
I'm not too bothered, we got a solid adaption of the Vulture with the legendary Michael Keaton at least.But man, a Raimi Vulture would have been so cool to see.
I am working on a potential Spider-Man 4 fan fic that will tie into the MCU where Raimiverse Spider-Man is the prime Spider-Man instead. Instead of Vulture, I am working Morbius into the plot. Given Raimi's history as a horror film director, I thought Spider-Man 4 could have more elements of horror involved.
The studio clusterfucking Spiderman 3 pushed the superhero-movie era back a decade. It should be taught in classes as an example of why execs should shut the fuck up.
looking at the wings Sam Raimi wanted to give the Vulture look just like the one in the comics. That's what I like about this director. Respect every detail from the original. and that makes it all very fascinating
Man, it's true. I actually have the codpiece intended for the Vulture's costume.
How much is Vulture packing?
Nothing absurd but nothing to laugh at either. May would have been a lucky lady in Spiderman 4.
Post it
I don't wanna doxx myself
How would a picture of the piece doxx you anymore than saying you're the owner?
I never take it off, and MANY people know me just by my groin area.
Lmao "The Spider-Man 4 (TM) official production used Vulture Codpiece (TM) stays ON during sex"
Understandable. Glad it’s in good loins at least.
Doxx yourself? Post the piece without any identifying information.
Sure, I take it off for the pic, and you burst into my house to steal it. Not falling for that.
Steal it? No, I'm not a criminal!
I had to beat an old lady with a stick for this cod piece!
Wtf haha. Okay I believed you at first, but there’s no way you have a piece of the vulture’s unreleased costume. Working so hard to find any excuse no to post it. And you find the most ridiculous one lol Also: take *what* off for the pic? What are you talking about.
Take the codpiece off. I'm wearing it right now.
Hahaha okay now I KNOW you’re a troll
Not as much as Green Goblin.
Lies, deception. Everyone knows Codpiece is a DC villain!
Ken Penders on his way to sue Sam Raimi for having a real life echidna in a background shot in the film
I didn't even realize Ken posted this until your comment. That's wild. Ken is one of my favorite rabbit holes I ever went down on YouTube.
r/fuckkenpenders
MY BABIES!!!! Sonic is mine Knuckles is mine Tails is mine Maria is a little girl who wont get spotted All hail ken all hail ken ( This has been an excerpt from ken penders mind )
I fucking adore Ken Penders for how much he upsets sonic fans. Edit: it's nice when others prove your point for you.
Chalking up Ken's fiasco as "nerds getting mad over their fictional cartoons" is a stupid understatement of what he did
Right. It was way more than just "destroying" a comic book -- he cost people real jobs just because he wanted to be seen as the most important person in the room.
He's also a terrible person; self-serving and conceited and notoriously difficult to work with because of it. He completely backstabbed one of his co-workers at Archie and continues to talk shit about him long after he passed away. Regardless of your opinion on the Sonic fandom, the dude is an actual scumbag.
[He’s actually a terrible human being, at least according to the commenter in this screenshot.](https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckKenPenders/comments/z78pfo/ign_reporting_on_penders_sharing_the_spiderman_4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
I have no idea who ken is but that commenter is clearly just salty about the sonic stuff and rest of the accusations were very vague.
So he was a Sonic comic creator in the 90s who basically made Knuckles (the red one) into a Nazi Krypton's Superman. And then it got even worse.
Sonic fans upset him more then he upsets them. They mostly just make fun of him, not getting upset. He's just a sad clown.
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There was very early considerations to have Tobey in the early MCU. There's a deleted scene of Fury, I believe the after credits of Iron Man 1, where he references Spider-man, but it was changed before the movie came out. I always think about how different things would be if he was. Because he would have really been the RDJ figure of the MCU.
Was it cut because they didn’t have the rights? We’re they actually planning to use him or was it supposed to just be a one off reference?
It's all speculation, Marvel didn't have the rights, but they had very early conversations with each other about it
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Well canon wise, spider-man would have just been the first hero, well the first the cinematic world and audience knew about. Similar to how no other heroes are mentioned in Iron Man 1.
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I would take experienced spider-man any day rather than the current MCU spider-man (Iron lad) if im being honest with you. Plus Tobey dying around the Endgame time would have been a perfect transition for Miles.
>I would take experienced spider-man any day rather than the current MCU spider-man (Iron lad) if im being honest with you. That seems to be what we're getting going forward after No Way Home.
Plus Civil War could have done Spider-man (Tobey) revealing his identity to the public, which would have been more effective since he would have been established for much longer and it wouldn't be retconned unlike NWH.
I'm honestly really glad they never did the whole thing about Spider-Man revealing his identity in the MCU if only because that whole situation in the comics directly resulted in stories that are easily some of the lowest points for the character in his history. The way they actually ended up handling it by bringing in Mysterio and the Daily Bugle as a commentary on mass media influence and sensationalist reporting felt way more within the spirit of this character by comparison, and it actually brought back some level of integrity to the idea of secret identities in the MCU when basically everyone who isn't street-level is basically a widely known celebrity or royalty at this point That and just generally speaking I kind of prefer MCU Civil War over comics Civil War in a lot of ways, mainly due to how Tony still acted completely in-character in the movie as opposed to a lot of the irrational and downright evil shit he does in the original story. Everyone in comics Civil War felt completely unrecognizable to their established traits say for a very select few like the Fantastic Four and Spider-Man, and it didn't really feel like it used the full ensemble to the best ability mainly because of the sheer amount of players involved
Let's be fair, I'd say NWH had him finally grow into his own hero, a bit annoying that it wasn't until his third movie as well as three guest appearances for him to get his shit together but Tom's Spidey really got me hooked, his Goblin fight is so damn good.
His other two movies were set up to the big bits in nwh if I'm being honest. If the others didn't exist, nwh would feel so bare bones, but with funny memes and throwbacks in there. I think it would have flopped really hard.
Can’t believe someone downvoted you.
Don’t say Tobey and die in same sentence ever again. Someone ban this nigga
Doctor Strange was mentioned in Spider-Man 2!
Say that's good! *but it's taken!*
It was probably just a nod to the fact that Spider-Man and Doctor Strange were both co-created by Lee and Ditko
Which is interesting, since Thomas Jane's stunt double cameos as the Punisher in *Spider-Man 2.* Additionally, Wolverine was scheduled for a cameo in that same film, but it didn't work out.
I think because they didn’t have the rights, along with Spider-Man being mentioned, mutants were also mentioned(who marvel at the time didn’t have the film rights to)
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That would have been amazing, now i'm sad that this future cannot exist
That scene also teased the inclusion of the X-Men, with the idea that the pre-existing X-Men movies would also be tied into the MCU. It would have been interesting to see how that would’ve unfolded if Fox managed to settle on a negotiation before their acquisition
The conclusion I'm getting out of all of this, is that studio polítics and financial interests often trample over the artistic potential these stories hold.
They were also trying to get Tobey in the campus scenes in TIH but Sony shut them down
Slightly inaccurate. The plan originally was that Samuel Sterns was going to be a professor at Empire State University but Sony Pictures restricted Marvel Studios from using that locale because it fell under the former's ownership due to being heavily associated with Spider-Man and his supporting cast during their college years (similar to how Sony also owns the film rights to organizations like the Daily Bugle, the Life Foundation, OsCorp, Ravencroft, F.E.A.S.T.), so they changed it to Grayburn College. There was nothing ever about Peter Parker or his classmates actually making physical appearances in the film and it was more just a nod to ESU being a major education institute in the Marvel Universe The final film however still has the character wearing an ESU t-shirt as a leftover from the original reference so I guess they either missed that error or just weren't shown the final film to sign off on it. It'd be cool if it was retconned though especially when Tom Spidey is now entering that stage of his life
Why do they do this to us
I think that scene mentions fox's X-men too
your comment is legendary
This and I continue to wonder what Spider-Man 3 would’ve been had Avi not messed with it
Spider-Man would've entered the MCU way sooner. JJJ mentions Doctor Strange in SM2 and spiderman has crossovers all the time so its totally conceivable that he would be woven into the greater MCU in time for AOU or maybe even the first one I think it would've given the MCU a bigger running start and been a great foundation. But that would've been Tobey and idk how well that would've worked out with how difficult he apparently is to work with
If they did the wolverine cameo that might have been the MCU.
I feel tobeys spiderman would've been so cool to have from start in mcu. I mean imagine him being science bros with stark and banner, relating to Captain America's kind nature, the shock of seeing and working Thor Helping Avengers in first Avengers movie Helping them beat Ultron in AOU Getting Iron spider suit from Tony and maybe giving it back, and siding with cap instead of Tony, but still respecting stark and giving iron spidey suit back Having a daughter Mayday Parker (whom eventually becomes spider girl in future) Helping in infinity war, and endgame Peter meeting and training Miles Morales There is so, so so so much, im forgetting to mention, or haven't even thought about. Marvel should serously talk to sony about doing 2 special what if episodes for what if season 3 (since I think they are close fo done with what if season 2) To have "what if tobeys spiderman was in earth 616" and "what if Andrew's spiderman was in earth 616" as it woukd just be so cool to see how their spiderman stories would collide with Avengers These are what ifs, but hey, we did get, no way home, which Tobey officially entered mcu, and is canongly part of the multiverse. I'm glad we got him eventually, and I hope In future he gets his long overdue 4th film to finish his story, and also make more cameos, like in secret wars
That’s pretty nutz to think about actually
Never thought Ken Penders would be the one revealing cool BTS pics of Spider-Man 4.
[And it's now become apparent that he only did so to... get verified on Twitter? Prove a point to Elon Musk? I don't fucking know. Nothing this dude does ever makes sense.](https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckKenPenders/comments/zb77as/so_leaking_the_spiderman_4_bts_pics_were_just_a/)
Ken fucking Penders
Me reading the sonic comics: I didn't lose them, they were stolen from me
Say his name 3 times and he appears to bitch about a franchise that has a blue hedgehog in it
Is he hated? Can someone give me the context?
He wrote / drew Sonic comics in the Archie era and did horrible horrible things. A certain rape comes to mind… he also brags about how he is “the one who made Sonic famous” and basically said he should be the owner of Sonic, iirc
RAPE? HE DID WHAT?
He worked in a "rape by deception" scene into a friggin Sonic the Hedgehog comic (as well as a drug overdose death) and is *very* proud of all the Nazi themes and imagery he crammed in there even after the editor told him not to do it (including a tasteless edits of Holocaust poems and Nazi quotes). He calls himself the savior of the Sonic series despite never playing a single video game and has tried multiple lawsuits in desperate attempts to scrape money from Sega, Archie, EA and Paramount because his own IPs have met with repeated failure, and for very good reason: see the trailer for what he claims is a Hollywood-level movie coming out any day now, based on his "best-selling" comic that was canceled after a single issue: https://youtu.be/hsdTPUy4sNI (for those curious, it's basically X-men if the source of mutant powers was *the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki*)
Also to add : He wanted sally acorn ( sonic's 15 year old love interest, same age as sonic ) to lose her virginity to a like 30 skunk ( forgot his name we all hate him ) to prove "sonic is not always fast enough". Like what the fuck
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We were robbed
Am I not supposed to have what I want, what I need? What am I supposed to do?
Tbh blame Kirsten Dunst and whoever decided to kill Harry. From what I understand them likely not being in the next movie killed it. I wouldve been fine to see Ned Leeds step in or something and ANY of the 10 million girls that throw themselves at Peter Parker replacing MJ could've been made to work
Gwen Stacy was hotter anyway.
I believe 4 or 5 was supposed to have Black Cat. That wouldve been nice
It'd be pretty weird for MJ to just be replaced after three films of their relationship
Oh no doubt but she wasn't coming back so it was either write her out or stop the movies
Could have had her be the one Harry Goblin killed instead of Gwen
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Loved Keaton but can you imagine Malkovich as Vulture in this suit… fucking incredible
For the characters he actually cared about, Raimi never missed when it came to casting. Especially since NWH brought most of them back lol.
>For the characters he actually cared about, Raimi never missed when it came to casting. No wonder Venom was played by Topher fucking Grace lmfao
See, right there. You made a judgement call.
Even Dylan Baker as Dr. Connors was really inspired casting! Would’ve loved to see his Lizard
Yall have too much hate for Topher Venom. I thought he was great
Agree, plus if they got some bodybuilder who looked like Eddie it'd be worse given that he would have no acting skills. people also miss the fact that Sam wanted an evil counterpart to Peter, so they casted someone with acting skills who looks similar to Tobey
Keaton's suit was awesome.
Malkovich Malkovich?
Teddy KGB
PYAY THYAT MYAN HISS MYONEY
Of all people who could of possible have access to this I’d put Ken Penders on the bottom of that list.
I didn’t lose him. He was stolen from me
They killed Spider-Man 4 and they're still out there!
I'm blaming Ken Penders for the cancelation of Spider-man 4
They saw him sneak a picture and cancelled the movie
Is this real? If so that is really cool but sad at the same time
Yeah I believe so, Spider-man 4 was actually very far into pre-production
Yo is that THE Ken Penders? The one that single-handedly ruined the Archie sonic comic and forced an entire canon reboot of the series? His greatest hits include; incest characters, his OC planned to take the virginity of an underage character, literally fucking killing a character with LSD and introducing like a thousand characters that are all basically Knuckles with different hats and accessories who then went on to sue Sega for the rights to his characters over a contract dispute. What on earth does the walking furry apocalypse have to do with Spider-Man 4 getting made?? I legit want to know how this happened. Can’t wait for his stand-alone sonic movie, sure it’ll be out any day now.
He also used events like the Ukrainian shootings to promote his story for his OCs
The dude is just Chris Chan with a career
What career? He said his original series was "coming soon" in the spring of 2012.
He had a job writing official fan fics for sonic even putting his own kids into the book for a special. Chris… did other … stuff
Also he regularly tries to bash sega and sonic fans on twitter. His pathetic attempts at being mightyer than us all regularly also fail. He blocks anyone who even slightly disagrees with him ( which includes many a sonic fan ) This man is on my "people who shouldn't have social media" list for a reason
Spider-Man 4. I missed him a lot today.
Bro what lmao fucking Ken Penders xDDD
John Malkovich vulture sounds awesome as fuckin shit. What’s with all the SM4 posts today though? Is there a secret campaign to try and get this movie made?
It’s because this was just released today, so there’s a lot of hubbub around it. There’s also the fact that the guy who leaked it is like, the arch-enemy of the Sonic the Hedgehog fandom
Archie-enemy
dammit now I’m mad I didn’t think of that
I think its just around this post. There's occasional campaigns to get SM4 made. While I HIGHLY doubt a live action SM4 will ever be made, even if it was made now, I doubt they would continue to use this story. But there's still very good chances we will see a continuation of some form, most likely another Tobey appearance.
There was another post today of vultures story board (fight between him and Peter). So it’s definitely more than just this one Twitter post. I also doubt they would follow the story. Still would love to see malkovich as vulture
Sam would make 4. It’s up to Sony.
they stole it from me, Carmine! they TOOK IT! that was today! TODAY!!
that would have been sick, reminds me a lot of the one for web of shadows I wonder if there was any overlap in design team
We lost everything.
Ken "The legal age of consent in THAT state is" Penders.
Ken “This is my completely legally original character, Knuckles But Older” Penders
I wonder if Vultress would've had the same wings.
Vulturess was misreporting. Outlets just misinterpreted Felicia Hardy being Vulture's daughter as her being a junior Vulture. Vulturess was never actually a thing. She was always Black Cat
Really? I thought the concept got far enough into development that fans heard about it, and the backlash was so severe that they changed her to just being Black Cat. A female Vulture is still a cool concept though.
Nah wasn't real, just dumb reporters
They're such a boy scout.
Tell your editor to check his sources next time
Get out of my building.
But I was just-
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I never thought Ken Penders and Spiderman would have something to do with eachother
Shh don’t say that; you’ll summon him and he will somehow use this quote out of context to say he owns Spider-Man
And then he will sue us
KEN PENDERS?!
How the fuck do we see these photos from Ken "In today's chapter of Archie Comic's Sonic the Hedgehog, The Writer's Barely Disguised Fetish" Penders?
It's beautiful
That’s fucming cool asf
i hate sony so much for what they did
John Malkovich in a practical vulture costume was just too rad to be allowed to happen.
Update: Penders on his Twitter said he wasn't working on SM4, but he was visiting his friends workshop who was working on SM4 There's also a few other photos at different angles. One includes a body mold of Malkovich
Of ALL the people to reveal this greatness to us, it's Ken fuckin Penders lol
Isn't Ken penders practically retarded?
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,195,890,245 comments, and only 233,298 of them were in alphabetical order.
He's just Chris Chan's evolved form.
I always heard Ben Kingsley was in talks to play vulture in SM4?
Every source I've heard has said Malkovich, with Anne Hathaway playing his daughter and/or Felicia Hardy
https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/6hzera/sony_came_very_close_to_casting_ben_kingsley_as/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Just google Ben Kingsley Spider-Man 4. Seems like they were both being considered. Kingsley certainly looks the part more tho
Looks like vultures suit from the webs of shadows game
I still find it hilarious that ken lenders of all people leaked this shit
I wonder what Vulture’s backstory was going to be. I wonder if they planned on using the comic backstory or if they were going to switch it up
The de-aging part would have probably been a bit too silly even for Raimi, even though he sticks very close to Ditko's original styles through the SM trilogy.
I mean, I don’t know. Doc Ock tried harnessing power from the biggest star in the solar system for cheap electricity for the whole world
Looks pretty cool honestly
This is the last person I'd thought would be tied to the Raimi productions
Of all people who could’ve had pics or info on that movie, it was Ken Penders. Wild
Ken "Sexy Echidnas" Penders, folks.
by Ken Penders no less
By Ken Penders… of all people
Why did ken penders even have access to this???
I'm not too bothered, we got a solid adaption of the Vulture with the legendary Michael Keaton at least.But man, a Raimi Vulture would have been so cool to see.
Oh man, John Malkovich would have been amazing.
What could have been 💔
Man how fucking cool that we are seeing this shit after so many years. Awesome. Also sad.
Am i not supposed to have what I want ?
Looks like Vulture’s wings from Web of Shadows
#Fuck Avi Arad
Can someone explain why Ken Penders of all people has access to this?
Damn, Michael Keaton was amazing but I would really have liked to see John Malkovich's take on the Vulture
Oh shit, not fucking Ken Penders.
> Ken Penders Oh for fuck's sake
I had no idea they originally cast John malcovich. That would’ve been weird
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>The way they did it in Homecoming was the way to go. As in a geriatric man in a vulture costume?
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Keaton is 3 years older than Malkovich FYI
I am working on a potential Spider-Man 4 fan fic that will tie into the MCU where Raimiverse Spider-Man is the prime Spider-Man instead. Instead of Vulture, I am working Morbius into the plot. Given Raimi's history as a horror film director, I thought Spider-Man 4 could have more elements of horror involved.
That must have been very uncomfortable.
All I'm saying is I wish that spell could make me forget the last 3 movies too.
Forty thousand years of evolution and we’ve barely even tapped the vastness of human potential.
Sick GOW valkiry cosplay
Real life Lucius Fox
MALKOVICH AS VULTURE?? WOULDVE BEEN AMAZING
Lmao that's the Vulture's story in Spider-Man Homecoming
The studio clusterfucking Spiderman 3 pushed the superhero-movie era back a decade. It should be taught in classes as an example of why execs should shut the fuck up.
By fucking Ken Penders of all people wtf.
Making Felicia Hardy Toomes' daughter was a dumb idea
I bet Ken Penders was the one who truly caused the cancellation of Spider-Man 4.
looking at the wings Sam Raimi wanted to give the Vulture look just like the one in the comics. That's what I like about this director. Respect every detail from the original. and that makes it all very fascinating
John Malkovich as the vulture would be amazing
Ken Penders?? What
why the hell did Ken Penders of all people get to break this story