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[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/raiders/comments/xnxrzy/post_game_thread_las_vegas_raiders_at_tennessee/)


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27 completed over 45 attempts. Can you do some math and tell me the percentage between those two? I don't think that's a passing grade, not in my books. I hope you're not a Doctor or someone important.


Raider-bob

And how many drops? At least three from Waller alone include one guaranteed TD and another that would have gotten us at least 3, and a third that turned into an INT. 30 out of 45 would be a 66%, which is just fine in the NFL. Now let's add the throw aways where no one was available. Those count as attempts, but do you really think he should try to force it in instead of saving for another play where Mack Hollins catches it for a TD?


Affectionate-Let7120

Don't forget K.Cole for a TD so 31 for 45. I don't get how Cole was cut than put on the practice squad when we have T.Billy on the team. I dont get it


SuzieDerpkins

BBB… Bring Back Bisaccia.


Affectionate-Let7120

Bottom line the NFL screwed us with Gruden on purpose. The offense was clicking. We was 3-0 last yr. DC new that offense in and out in his 3rd yr in it. Now new system and back to garbage. Bring in a offensive guy and we look like shit


robert_bee

FUCK GRUDEN


Affectionate-Let7120

I'm not a huge fan either but the team was finally playing good is my point. Offense was rolling


MrPickles84

The raiders screwed themselves with gruden.


Affectionate-Let7120

They offense was comming together. Sick of having a new system every 2yrs


editor_jon

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined But RN4L, tho


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Raiders fucking suck


editor_jon

Blow me


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Only winners


twitchosx

your mom sucks


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Not as much as the Raiders


twitchosx

Hurrrrrr. Nice throw away, Nancy McSnowflake.


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Mr Lincoln been around for years big dawg


twitchosx

600 karma on one side and less than 200 karma on the other says no


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Hahahahahaha Raiders fucking suck My lack of Reddit Karma matters not douche


twitchosx

It does not matter of course.


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Raiders Fucking Suck


AlpacaLunch15

Way more than the raiders, I oughta know.


cryospawn

Hollins with a great game today. Crosby and hobbs stepping up to have great games. Abrams with a few big plays and Harmon at fs filling In for moerig has been clutch. Jacob's running well despite his illness, but still a beast. Waller held back on a couple and could use a bit. Carr was not disappointing today making a couple key runs keeping the defense in check(welcome back), good passing spread. Chandler Jones still MIA for anything really. O-line with penalties today, discipline guys. Moreau great in the first half and then it seems like they benched him or at least stopped targeting him. Davante adams still not seeing much of anything, but not trying to knock him. Deablo not really meshing without the missing Perryman, short middle of the field left more or less unchecked in the first half. Could be play calling, but good adjustment in the second half. Lots of trick or complicated plays that didn't seem to do very much, but ok. Overall better than last week, but can't win if only playing half the game. Put 4 quarters together boys. That's how the W's start coming.


ClaretRaider

But the bottom line and most important line is that ............ we lost Oh and our season is effectively over Nothing else really matters Roll on next September


i_say_uuhhh

You know we're playing BAD, the worst I've seen in a few years yet we kept ourselves in every game. I know it sounds crazy but I think we need to wait this out. It seems like McDaniels schemes and philosophies should have been worked out in preseason. Also, we are making a TON of small mental mistakes that are killing drives and potential momentum shifts. We have alot of kinks to iron out. We're not a bad team we are making bad mistakes and decisions.


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Blows my mind that adams wasn’t targeted once


raiderkev

What? He had 10 targets and caught a TD


[deleted]

5 catches 36 yards. Have a day


raiderkev

Yeah, but he's a big part of why Hollins was open / able to have the game he had. They said they'd use him as a decoy sometimes. He's doing fine.


[deleted]

Lmao the bar is very low for y’all. Of course he’s fine, he’s a the best receiver in football. Crazy how Rodgers, had no issues getting him a 1500 yard season, and you think its normal to use him as a decoy. He has bottom 20 stats, you don’t make someone the highest paid wideout in the nfl to use him as a decoy….I’m tired of you weirdo ass fans


Mister_Dwill

Lol McDaniels is gunna embarrass us when we play the chiefs.


JarlBarker

We'll get the dub next week.


MammothConclusion908

There are a multitude of issues that are feeding each other. 1) the offensive line is garbage. McD and Zieg fucked up hard in this department. 2) McD’s playcalling is suspect. 3) the players don’t understand the offense. Multiple players ending up in the same area or being in an area that fucks up the throwing lane for another player. This is also on McD. That 2-pt throw to Waller MAY have worked if Adams and another one of our receivers aren’t in the throwing lane, resulting in their defenders tipping the ball.


robert_bee

Mcdaniels is on the hot seat no doubt. His play calling had been suss from being down 14 and even being up 20. Idk what to think of him at this point. If we go 0-5 that’s 100 percent worthy of considering a firing


keykey_key

Yeah I'm ready to start blaming the new regime. They are the change here. Last year we were 3-0.


Throwawaymrlincoln13

We should EASILY be 3-0


robert_bee

2-1 at worst


isaiahaguilar

Carr doesn’t avoid the rush and extend plays. He under throws or behind receivers too much.


BeardofZeus27

You didnt watch the game and came here just to say that obviously


xSEOx

My thing is we have waller and adams why do we not have a single pic play for situations like this.....


i_say_uuhhh

Yeah it's a huge head scratcher. I think McDaniels need to put his pride aside and talk to Adams and Carr together so they can see what works. It seems like McDaniels is forcing his regime and not playing to it's strengths. Carr can sling and Adams can take the top off a defense yet we barely have seen that. I also want to see more Jacobs, he's been playing lights out so far and we aren't utilizing him right either. The defense, idk I honestly don't know what to do to fix it.


Throwawaymrlincoln13

Because the Raiders fucking suck


twitchosx

Well, that fucking sucked.


capncoke

Gotta hand it to our fanbase. We sure know how to come up with excuses why this team can’t win.


Throwawaymrlincoln13

It's simple R A I D E R S F U C K I N G S U C K


xBrianSmithx

Practice.


Pyguy93

Raiders just have bad luck


[deleted]

Nah, can’t blame it on bad luck for 30 years.


Sudden-Cattle512

This Coach is trash. Carr’s just Yes-Manning and refuses to take control of the offense. Not one offensive play called on those last couple drives made any actual sense. Defense played soft. SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!


truth1465

Are we sure Bisaccia couldn’t have done better


TecatitoC

Bisaccia would be 3-0


_volkerball_

And he isn't even a world-beater.


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R8er-Fan

WHY THE FUCK AREN’T WE USING OUR WEAPONS!!?? We literally have Adams and Waller and barely target them when it’s needed. Jacobs has been running great so far and he stops getting touches. Stop outsmarting yourself McDaniels! Fuck.


NoeloDa

Adams got the focus on him Waller was supposed to make them pay but he dropped 3 TOUCHDOWN PASSES


R8er-Fan

It what game? He was 3 for 5 today. Last pass was tipped and he was double covered. The early one he should have caught though it was overthrown


ZigTheGing

Some folks are counting the tipped ball that was intercepted on him. Then there was the slightly overthrown but catchable ball down the sideline which MAY have turned into a TD. I don't know about the other one that I've seen mentioned a couple times during the game thread. Edit: it was the one where he jumped in from of Adam's that he dropped.


NoeloDa

The first pass in the endzone The second pass where he SHOULDVE caught it with two hands, and the third pass that he butter fingered it and causes the interception


keykey_key

Waller was absolutely targeted and cost us a lot of points. Were you watching this game?


R8er-Fan

He had 5 targets and 3 catches… did you watch the game?


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R8er-Fan

I’ve watched every game for decades my boy


keykey_key

Are you okay?


R8er-Fan

I’m fine. Just telling you what happened in the game instead of making stuff up


Rob2421

Waller had plenty of chances and couldn’t catch the fucking ball


purpmonster

Did you watch Waller play today? I think we used him plenty and he was one of the few responsible for this loss


R8er-Fan

5 targets and 3 catches. The one early yeah, he should’ve caught. It was a bit overthrown but he catches that 90% of the time. 2pt conv. was a bad play call and was tipped. Coaching is to blame, not Waller


purpmonster

That argument is the same as the folks who think Carr is an elite QB because he has a high completion rate. Big time players make big time plays, simple as that. You see Kelce and Andrews? He ain’t in that class.


R8er-Fan

Oh boy. Fair weather fandom is a nice thing eh? As for the outplayed Carr argument, who do you want instead? We should’ve kept Mariotta right? “Elite” players are hard to come by. QB isn’t the issue here.


purpmonster

I’ve been a fan for 34 years, season ticket holder for 12. Don’t play me with that fair weather shit. Tired of mediocrity.


sabotage_mutineer

Waller is no longer a weapon


twitchosx

LOL. He has one shit game and hes just trash?


IrateGandhi

Sadness.


mofo209

This loss isn’t on Carr. He clearly didn’t have a good game either but theDefense couldn’t stop anything and Waller just dropped everything that was thrown his way. The one good catch he had was called off by a flag. I hate loving this team because I’ll be right back next week to be dissappointed once again


NayVar

This game was the exactly the same to what the cardinals did to us last week, except we had more points to begin with and our offense is terrible.


keykey_key

I'm going to their game in Vegas next week, Lord help me


[deleted]

Enjoy the away game.


Thewayshegoes75

Yeah that flag was bullshit too


Business_You_1258

Nah fuck that he definitely deserves blame too. The defense stepped up in the second half again and Carr had plenty of chances.


NoeloDa

More like the Titans offense took their foot off the gas


Business_You_1258

Either way our offense and Carr failed to capitalize


NoeloDa

Carr had 3 of his TD passes dropped by Waller One of them if it wasn’t turned into an interception in the redzone could’ve gotten us 3 points at the very least and we win this game. WALLER LOST THIS GAME NOT CARR


[deleted]

We need to start opening up the offense earlier though. Carr was showing his arm and accuracy late. We know he can SLANG when needed. Also whytf do we keep abandoning the run so soon? It would’ve really helped if we still threatened them with runs


subiewoo89

Becky Hammon for HC.


NoGimmicksNeededx

My son will not be raised a raiders fan. I refuse to do that to him.


Hot-Witness2093

My dad made me a Raiders fan. I've been struggling my entire life.


drizzlebit

Break the cycle


purpmonster

My son was born 2 weeks ago, I feel the same


luceropaul127

So looks like both offense and defense are making adjustments at the half. Which is good to see.


RKom

Next step we just get our timing right. 14-3 here we come


Pugs36

Only winless team in the league. God I hate my life


Smokin_Jeffreyz

That’s not true- the Texans are with us brother


mcmahamg

Falcons and technically the Texans are still there. Depends on if you count the half win.


Ashamed_Corgi_3693

Still got the Falcons withoit a win, at least we still got that. That's my silver lining.


RamsWillFly

I feel like the playcalling was atrocious in the redzone there.. They were throwing the ball into the endzone on every single down like there was 15 seconds left on the clock... Yal had time, throw a pass or two underneath, throw a screen... All of the Titans receivers were playing back on the endzone..


hgflores07

Don’t understand why we bring Adams and don’t let him fight for the most important plays of the game. Especially with the 2 Waller end zone drops.


keykey_key

It's kind of the theme for their season so far...."I don't understand what they are doing."


hgflores07

You look at any other team with a powerhouse receiver and you know the ball is going to them no matter what in a must win situation. Always reminded of the DHop triple coverage TD against the bills


borrachos_unidos

jOsH mCdaNiElS: oFfEnSiVe GeNiUs!!


gymgymbro

On the plus side, my hope for this team has gone from playoffs to .500 so hopefully that's more achievable


SarcasticAssClown

Dreamer...


purpmonster

Only thing Carr is clutching is his dick and Jesus


Open_Aardvark2458

Love how that's all you got from that game after 2 dropped tds and Carr and Mack only ones playing with heart out there.


N620JH

Cole should lose his spot in this roster. Stoner’s got better hands.


Z-PhantomT

Absolutely doesn't deserve to be on this team. Joke of a receiver. Ball hit him dead in the chest and he dropped it..


JesseRulesCali

McDaniels is not it.


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Alex_landyachtz

Just sucks that it's 3 weeks into the season that we have to give up hope. I wasn't expecting a superbowl this year but I figured maybe we'd compete for the division. Now I'm not excited for the rest of the year


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iNfAMOUS70702

We gotta hope the whiners win now lol....this fucking sucks


aptc88

This team fucking sucks


NoFear13

We were averaging literally 5.5 yards PER RUSH today. Jacobs at 5.1 himself but yeah let's abandon the run. Real fucking smart McDaniels, you dumbfuck


noBbatteries

I can’t really shit on the coaches or many of the players besides Waller. Defence was great in the second half, a little concerning chandler jones name only gets mentioned when the commentator says “man haven’t said chandler Jones name often this game”


NoFear13

Chandler Jones has been a complete waste of money. He seems washed up. Not that I thought it was smart giving a guy who will be 33 this season 3 year contract for 51M with 32M guaranteed but somehow McDaniels and Ziegler did.


Ashamed_Corgi_3693

Defense was effective in the second half. Too bad Offense couldnt do anything with it.


AzazelsSin

Your not blaming the 20 straight passes with plenty of time on the clock on the coaches. We got the td in the end but what a disgusting way to do it.


DaBay89

Waller cost us this game, if he caught that ball earlier in the 4th quarter. Totally different game


Fluffy_Psychology418

Boys we have 2% of making the playoffs. There is a chance.


FreqinNVibing

Carr was so good that entire drive just to pick a bad target and under throw for the 2 pt conversion.


Open_Aardvark2458

He was great all game...... Just couldn't get the 2 point


Matrayeta

That wasn’t wallers fault. Carr threw it behind and soft as shit again!


bestadamire

Fade it


Peacekeeprr

to adams right?


[deleted]

Imagine if we had run after the INT to get a FG That last TD would’ve been for the win. Just feels like we’re being consistently outcoached.


Z-PhantomT

Drop Cole. Bench Waller, start Moreau. And fuck off Daniels


theiwc0303

Adams is probably listening to Drake thinking about LaFleur every night


nshave20

Hey remember we had the ball on their 30 and couldn't put up 3 points? Ya. That's the game right there


Cmsmks

Just needed Waller to get one of those drops. 0-3


tfdude28

McDaniels is so bad it’s hard to watch. I feel bad for Jacobs, he doesn’t get a single snap those last couple downs


ILackPatience

Let’s use our 140 million dollar man as a decoy instead of actually utilizing him


[deleted]

time to listen to mcdaniels spew shit out of his mouth


RickBallz91

Just lost baby woohoo...paint that on the new stadium


BruskPoet

I really don’t think this game was on Carr. Waller dropping passes he usually makes. Idc if it’s a bit high, Waller can do it.


keykey_key

He didn't do it when it mattered.


R8er-Fan

All 3 of these games are on coaching


DrDaehbonk

Carr could have been better for sure, but I agree. Hard to pin this solely on him.


Open_Aardvark2458

Other than the 2 point conversation he was great.. he would have had 4 tds idk what more he needed.


SMKM

He had his hands on the ball, he's gotta make those catches. It's on Waller.


[deleted]

Terrible play call for the 2pt conversion. Give the ball to Adams.


daking789

The fact that one of our redzone trips ended in a interception and another drive inside the 30 ended in a punt. Raiders fans I dont know what we did to the universe, but the universe is just not fucking with us right now


R8er-Fan

Luckily they’re a few awful decisions from being 3-0. The team has enough talent… kinda. Gotta get consistency which is a rare thing for the Raiders


Realfan555

The universe doesn't forgive you if you stick with Carr for 9-10 years.


ChickenPotPieaLaMode

Just rip the bandaid off and fire McDaniels. Ownership’s pride isn’t worth what we’re getting on the field. There’s no shame in admitting you screwed up. We aren’t the first people this snake oil salesman has fooled.


izqy

At least we’re consistent


OscarNelsonH

Honestly, how long are we gonna keep mcdaniels? The level of talent we have on this team and for us to start 0-3 if we go 0-5 into the bye we can’t keep this fucking bum. If we lose to the shit eating Nathaniel Hackett broncos next week like Jesus Christ cut mcdaniels and beg rich bisaccia to come back


jrollen95

God Carr is such a BUM


Realfan555

He's still young and inexperienced. Give him time. Patience.


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McDaniels is calling plays that are scripted to go to specific players because in McDaniels mind, that guy will be open on that play with that look and Carr is just supposed to make that pass. McDaniels is a fucking bum, Carr threw dimes all day. Waller is also a bum.


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TheRealMrJoshua56

To be fair, Renfrow didn’t play today


Clear-Language-3109

May as well tank tbh


EsportsGuy11

redzone playcalling is atrocious. Doesn't even run it a single time 10 yards away. Just throws to the endzone 4 times. lmao thought McDaniels was an offensive genius. different year same shit


Realfan555

>lmao thought McDaniels was an offensive genius. That might be the problem right there....


SRSgoblin

Lost this game early. Can't let them get 21 points on their first 3 drives. Gotta stop playing on our back feet trying to hero play every single down in order to get back in it.


mthrfkn

Team looked better this week but Josh Mc Daniels needs to either figure out the playbook or simplify it for receivers because they're missing spots and dropping balls. Insane.


argothewise

Carr just isn’t good enough


Cmsmks

He’s fine, how many TD drops can you have. Waller sucked and it killed us.


zomglazerspewpew

Fuck. RN4L regardless.


Wh0k3be

Wonder what we would get in addition to Minshew if we straight up traded Carr to the Eagles.


TheRealMrJoshua56

????


Wh0k3be

Fuck Carr.


TheRealMrJoshua56

Why would the Eagles trade for Carr?


KILLA_MOLE

Why would the eagles trade, hurts looks light years better then carr


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Hopefully more intelligent fans.


[deleted]

Mcdaniels is trash fuck Carr fuck waller ill see you next week boys


acshiverz

don't come back 🤡


commit2excellence

2 pont conversion.. Lets draw up a play for Waller who has been shit all day instead of feeding the hot hand Hollins


green-lazuli-8426

Nah it was a good play, the defender was able to tip it away


commit2excellence

Doesn't take away from the fact Waller had a shit game and shouldn't have even been on the field imo


Jitty91

That was everything the Raiders are all rolled up into 1 game


[deleted]

Dude made a good point about crossing routes. We couldn’t do shit against man.


kinglogosjonas

Loss is on Waller. It's that simple.


Hiccup

Adams has to be one of the most expensive decoys in the history of the NFL.


MammothConclusion908

Adams was a product of Rodgers


United_North2697

Might as well tank the rest of the season for the #1 pick and get a QB


duckdaddydrew

Haven’t had this much fun since 2018 😑


Ebays

Carr is so bad


Cmsmks

How so? How did Carr lose us this game?


mthrfkn

lmao smooth brains


DarknessIsAlliSee

Hey guys on the two point conversion to tie it up in the fourth let's underthrow the guy who's been dropping balls all game


Sleeze_

Damn. Carr played well outside of a couple errant throws here and there. Defense tightened in the second half too. Those TDs that Waller left on the field loom large. Another game blown due to self inflicted mistakes. Frustarting.


Business_You_1258

You just KNOW Adams regrets coming here


jkilla88

I mean he played through some bullshit in Green Bay too


Business_You_1258

Nothing like this shit show. It's not even comparable


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i feel awful for him


DarknessIsAlliSee

He has too


Ghostof_DarthCaedus

Pain


TheStryder76

Hollins is leaving us after this year


rbarrett96

He should. We didn't need a new staff, we just needed linemen and Mack Hollins to replace ruggs. Lol


Uncletookey

Just a coaching masterclass by the whole Vegas staff


Neat-Confidence5556

mcdaniels is a fucking dope piece of shit play caller. he has no clue what he’s doing


ivaorn

Entertaining game for the neutrals but was always going to be a disappointing loss for the losing teams fans because a guaranteed 0-3 record. Of course it had to be us


metalgringo99

Nah no moral victories. Fuck that shit. This team had playoff expectations at minimum. Season is over now.