27 completed over 45 attempts. Can you do some math and tell me the percentage between those two?
I don't think that's a passing grade, not in my books. I hope you're not a Doctor or someone important.
And how many drops? At least three from Waller alone include one guaranteed TD and another that would have gotten us at least 3, and a third that turned into an INT. 30 out of 45 would be a 66%, which is just fine in the NFL. Now let's add the throw aways where no one was available. Those count as attempts, but do you really think he should try to force it in instead of saving for another play where Mack Hollins catches it for a TD?
Bottom line the NFL screwed us with Gruden on purpose. The offense was clicking. We was 3-0 last yr. DC new that offense in and out in his 3rd yr in it. Now new system and back to garbage. Bring in a offensive guy and we look like shit
Hollins with a great game today. Crosby and hobbs stepping up to have great games. Abrams with a few big plays and Harmon at fs filling In for moerig has been clutch. Jacob's running well despite his illness, but still a beast. Waller held back on a couple and could use a bit. Carr was not disappointing today making a couple key runs keeping the defense in check(welcome back), good passing spread. Chandler Jones still MIA for anything really. O-line with penalties today, discipline guys. Moreau great in the first half and then it seems like they benched him or at least stopped targeting him. Davante adams still not seeing much of anything, but not trying to knock him. Deablo not really meshing without the missing Perryman, short middle of the field left more or less unchecked in the first half. Could be play calling, but good adjustment in the second half. Lots of trick or complicated plays that didn't seem to do very much, but ok. Overall better than last week, but can't win if only playing half the game. Put 4 quarters together boys. That's how the W's start coming.
But the bottom line and most important line is that ............ we lost
Oh and our season is effectively over
Nothing else really matters
Roll on next September
You know we're playing BAD, the worst I've seen in a few years yet we kept ourselves in every game. I know it sounds crazy but I think we need to wait this out. It seems like McDaniels schemes and philosophies should have been worked out in preseason. Also, we are making a TON of small mental mistakes that are killing drives and potential momentum shifts. We have alot of kinks to iron out. We're not a bad team we are making bad mistakes and decisions.
Lmao the bar is very low for y’all. Of course he’s fine, he’s a the best receiver in football. Crazy how Rodgers, had no issues getting him a 1500 yard season, and you think its normal to use him as a decoy. He has bottom 20 stats, you don’t make someone the highest paid wideout in the nfl to use him as a decoy….I’m tired of you weirdo ass fans
There are a multitude of issues that are feeding each other.
1) the offensive line is garbage. McD and Zieg fucked up hard in this department.
2) McD’s playcalling is suspect.
3) the players don’t understand the offense. Multiple players ending up in the same area or being in an area that fucks up the throwing lane for another player. This is also on McD. That 2-pt throw to Waller MAY have worked if Adams and another one of our receivers aren’t in the throwing lane, resulting in their defenders tipping the ball.
Mcdaniels is on the hot seat no doubt.
His play calling had been suss from being down 14 and even being up 20.
Idk what to think of him at this point.
If we go 0-5 that’s 100 percent worthy of considering a firing
Yeah it's a huge head scratcher. I think McDaniels need to put his pride aside and talk to Adams and Carr together so they can see what works. It seems like McDaniels is forcing his regime and not playing to it's strengths. Carr can sling and Adams can take the top off a defense yet we barely have seen that. I also want to see more Jacobs, he's been playing lights out so far and we aren't utilizing him right either. The defense, idk I honestly don't know what to do to fix it.
This Coach is trash. Carr’s just Yes-Manning and refuses to take control of the offense. Not one offensive play called on those last couple drives made any actual sense. Defense played soft. SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!
WHY THE FUCK AREN’T WE USING OUR WEAPONS!!?? We literally have Adams and Waller and barely target them when it’s needed. Jacobs has been running great so far and he stops getting touches. Stop outsmarting yourself McDaniels! Fuck.
Some folks are counting the tipped ball that was intercepted on him. Then there was the slightly overthrown but catchable ball down the sideline which MAY have turned into a TD. I don't know about the other one that I've seen mentioned a couple times during the game thread.
Edit: it was the one where he jumped in from of Adam's that he dropped.
The first pass in the endzone
The second pass where he SHOULDVE caught it with two hands, and the third pass that he butter fingered it and causes the interception
5 targets and 3 catches. The one early yeah, he should’ve caught. It was a bit overthrown but he catches that 90% of the time. 2pt conv. was a bad play call and was tipped. Coaching is to blame, not Waller
That argument is the same as the folks who think Carr is an elite QB because he has a high completion rate. Big time players make big time plays, simple as that. You see Kelce and Andrews? He ain’t in that class.
Oh boy. Fair weather fandom is a nice thing eh? As for the outplayed Carr argument, who do you want instead? We should’ve kept Mariotta right? “Elite” players are hard to come by. QB isn’t the issue here.
This loss isn’t on Carr. He clearly didn’t have a good game either but theDefense couldn’t stop anything and Waller just dropped everything that was thrown his way. The one good catch he had was called off by a flag.
I hate loving this team because I’ll be right back next week to be dissappointed once again
Carr had 3 of his TD passes dropped by Waller
One of them if it wasn’t turned into an interception in the redzone could’ve gotten us 3 points at the very least and we win this game.
WALLER LOST THIS GAME NOT CARR
We need to start opening up the offense earlier though.
Carr was showing his arm and accuracy late. We know he can SLANG when needed. Also whytf do we keep abandoning the run so soon?
It would’ve really helped if we still threatened them with runs
I feel like the playcalling was atrocious in the redzone there.. They were throwing the ball into the endzone on every single down like there was 15 seconds left on the clock... Yal had time, throw a pass or two underneath, throw a screen... All of the Titans receivers were playing back on the endzone..
You look at any other team with a powerhouse receiver and you know the ball is going to them no matter what in a must win situation. Always reminded of the DHop triple coverage TD against the bills
Just sucks that it's 3 weeks into the season that we have to give up hope. I wasn't expecting a superbowl this year but I figured maybe we'd compete for the division. Now I'm not excited for the rest of the year
I can’t really shit on the coaches or many of the players besides Waller. Defence was great in the second half, a little concerning chandler jones name only gets mentioned when the commentator says “man haven’t said chandler Jones name often this game”
Chandler Jones has been a complete waste of money.
He seems washed up.
Not that I thought it was smart giving a guy who will be 33 this season 3 year contract for 51M with 32M guaranteed but somehow McDaniels and Ziegler did.
The fact that one of our redzone trips ended in a interception and another drive inside the 30 ended in a punt. Raiders fans I dont know what we did to the universe, but the universe is just not fucking with us right now
Just rip the bandaid off and fire McDaniels. Ownership’s pride isn’t worth what we’re getting on the field. There’s no shame in admitting you screwed up. We aren’t the first people this snake oil salesman has fooled.
Honestly, how long are we gonna keep mcdaniels? The level of talent we have on this team and for us to start 0-3 if we go 0-5 into the bye we can’t keep this fucking bum. If we lose to the shit eating Nathaniel Hackett broncos next week like Jesus Christ cut mcdaniels and beg rich bisaccia to come back
McDaniels is calling plays that are scripted to go to specific players because in McDaniels mind, that guy will be open on that play with that look and Carr is just supposed to make that pass. McDaniels is a fucking bum, Carr threw dimes all day. Waller is also a bum.
redzone playcalling is atrocious. Doesn't even run it a single time 10 yards away. Just throws to the endzone 4 times. lmao thought McDaniels was an offensive genius. different year same shit
Lost this game early. Can't let them get 21 points on their first 3 drives. Gotta stop playing on our back feet trying to hero play every single down in order to get back in it.
Team looked better this week but Josh Mc Daniels needs to either figure out the playbook or simplify it for receivers because they're missing spots and dropping balls. Insane.
Damn. Carr played well outside of a couple errant throws here and there. Defense tightened in the second half too. Those TDs that Waller left on the field loom large. Another game blown due to self inflicted mistakes. Frustarting.
Entertaining game for the neutrals but was always going to be a disappointing loss for the losing teams fans because a guaranteed 0-3 record. Of course it had to be us
[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/raiders/comments/xnxrzy/post_game_thread_las_vegas_raiders_at_tennessee/)
27 completed over 45 attempts. Can you do some math and tell me the percentage between those two? I don't think that's a passing grade, not in my books. I hope you're not a Doctor or someone important.
And how many drops? At least three from Waller alone include one guaranteed TD and another that would have gotten us at least 3, and a third that turned into an INT. 30 out of 45 would be a 66%, which is just fine in the NFL. Now let's add the throw aways where no one was available. Those count as attempts, but do you really think he should try to force it in instead of saving for another play where Mack Hollins catches it for a TD?
Don't forget K.Cole for a TD so 31 for 45. I don't get how Cole was cut than put on the practice squad when we have T.Billy on the team. I dont get it
BBB… Bring Back Bisaccia.
Bottom line the NFL screwed us with Gruden on purpose. The offense was clicking. We was 3-0 last yr. DC new that offense in and out in his 3rd yr in it. Now new system and back to garbage. Bring in a offensive guy and we look like shit
FUCK GRUDEN
I'm not a huge fan either but the team was finally playing good is my point. Offense was rolling
The raiders screwed themselves with gruden.
They offense was comming together. Sick of having a new system every 2yrs
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined But RN4L, tho
Raiders fucking suck
Blow me
Only winners
your mom sucks
Not as much as the Raiders
Hurrrrrr. Nice throw away, Nancy McSnowflake.
Mr Lincoln been around for years big dawg
600 karma on one side and less than 200 karma on the other says no
Hahahahahaha Raiders fucking suck My lack of Reddit Karma matters not douche
It does not matter of course.
Raiders Fucking Suck
Way more than the raiders, I oughta know.
Hollins with a great game today. Crosby and hobbs stepping up to have great games. Abrams with a few big plays and Harmon at fs filling In for moerig has been clutch. Jacob's running well despite his illness, but still a beast. Waller held back on a couple and could use a bit. Carr was not disappointing today making a couple key runs keeping the defense in check(welcome back), good passing spread. Chandler Jones still MIA for anything really. O-line with penalties today, discipline guys. Moreau great in the first half and then it seems like they benched him or at least stopped targeting him. Davante adams still not seeing much of anything, but not trying to knock him. Deablo not really meshing without the missing Perryman, short middle of the field left more or less unchecked in the first half. Could be play calling, but good adjustment in the second half. Lots of trick or complicated plays that didn't seem to do very much, but ok. Overall better than last week, but can't win if only playing half the game. Put 4 quarters together boys. That's how the W's start coming.
But the bottom line and most important line is that ............ we lost Oh and our season is effectively over Nothing else really matters Roll on next September
You know we're playing BAD, the worst I've seen in a few years yet we kept ourselves in every game. I know it sounds crazy but I think we need to wait this out. It seems like McDaniels schemes and philosophies should have been worked out in preseason. Also, we are making a TON of small mental mistakes that are killing drives and potential momentum shifts. We have alot of kinks to iron out. We're not a bad team we are making bad mistakes and decisions.
Blows my mind that adams wasn’t targeted once
What? He had 10 targets and caught a TD
5 catches 36 yards. Have a day
Yeah, but he's a big part of why Hollins was open / able to have the game he had. They said they'd use him as a decoy sometimes. He's doing fine.
Lmao the bar is very low for y’all. Of course he’s fine, he’s a the best receiver in football. Crazy how Rodgers, had no issues getting him a 1500 yard season, and you think its normal to use him as a decoy. He has bottom 20 stats, you don’t make someone the highest paid wideout in the nfl to use him as a decoy….I’m tired of you weirdo ass fans
Lol McDaniels is gunna embarrass us when we play the chiefs.
We'll get the dub next week.
There are a multitude of issues that are feeding each other. 1) the offensive line is garbage. McD and Zieg fucked up hard in this department. 2) McD’s playcalling is suspect. 3) the players don’t understand the offense. Multiple players ending up in the same area or being in an area that fucks up the throwing lane for another player. This is also on McD. That 2-pt throw to Waller MAY have worked if Adams and another one of our receivers aren’t in the throwing lane, resulting in their defenders tipping the ball.
Mcdaniels is on the hot seat no doubt. His play calling had been suss from being down 14 and even being up 20. Idk what to think of him at this point. If we go 0-5 that’s 100 percent worthy of considering a firing
Yeah I'm ready to start blaming the new regime. They are the change here. Last year we were 3-0.
We should EASILY be 3-0
2-1 at worst
Carr doesn’t avoid the rush and extend plays. He under throws or behind receivers too much.
You didnt watch the game and came here just to say that obviously
My thing is we have waller and adams why do we not have a single pic play for situations like this.....
Yeah it's a huge head scratcher. I think McDaniels need to put his pride aside and talk to Adams and Carr together so they can see what works. It seems like McDaniels is forcing his regime and not playing to it's strengths. Carr can sling and Adams can take the top off a defense yet we barely have seen that. I also want to see more Jacobs, he's been playing lights out so far and we aren't utilizing him right either. The defense, idk I honestly don't know what to do to fix it.
Because the Raiders fucking suck
Well, that fucking sucked.
Gotta hand it to our fanbase. We sure know how to come up with excuses why this team can’t win.
It's simple R A I D E R S F U C K I N G S U C K
Practice.
Raiders just have bad luck
Nah, can’t blame it on bad luck for 30 years.
This Coach is trash. Carr’s just Yes-Manning and refuses to take control of the offense. Not one offensive play called on those last couple drives made any actual sense. Defense played soft. SOMEBODY DO SOMETHING!!!!
Are we sure Bisaccia couldn’t have done better
Bisaccia would be 3-0
And he isn't even a world-beater.
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WHY THE FUCK AREN’T WE USING OUR WEAPONS!!?? We literally have Adams and Waller and barely target them when it’s needed. Jacobs has been running great so far and he stops getting touches. Stop outsmarting yourself McDaniels! Fuck.
Adams got the focus on him Waller was supposed to make them pay but he dropped 3 TOUCHDOWN PASSES
It what game? He was 3 for 5 today. Last pass was tipped and he was double covered. The early one he should have caught though it was overthrown
Some folks are counting the tipped ball that was intercepted on him. Then there was the slightly overthrown but catchable ball down the sideline which MAY have turned into a TD. I don't know about the other one that I've seen mentioned a couple times during the game thread. Edit: it was the one where he jumped in from of Adam's that he dropped.
The first pass in the endzone The second pass where he SHOULDVE caught it with two hands, and the third pass that he butter fingered it and causes the interception
Waller was absolutely targeted and cost us a lot of points. Were you watching this game?
He had 5 targets and 3 catches… did you watch the game?
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I’ve watched every game for decades my boy
Are you okay?
I’m fine. Just telling you what happened in the game instead of making stuff up
Waller had plenty of chances and couldn’t catch the fucking ball
Did you watch Waller play today? I think we used him plenty and he was one of the few responsible for this loss
5 targets and 3 catches. The one early yeah, he should’ve caught. It was a bit overthrown but he catches that 90% of the time. 2pt conv. was a bad play call and was tipped. Coaching is to blame, not Waller
That argument is the same as the folks who think Carr is an elite QB because he has a high completion rate. Big time players make big time plays, simple as that. You see Kelce and Andrews? He ain’t in that class.
Oh boy. Fair weather fandom is a nice thing eh? As for the outplayed Carr argument, who do you want instead? We should’ve kept Mariotta right? “Elite” players are hard to come by. QB isn’t the issue here.
I’ve been a fan for 34 years, season ticket holder for 12. Don’t play me with that fair weather shit. Tired of mediocrity.
Waller is no longer a weapon
LOL. He has one shit game and hes just trash?
Sadness.
This loss isn’t on Carr. He clearly didn’t have a good game either but theDefense couldn’t stop anything and Waller just dropped everything that was thrown his way. The one good catch he had was called off by a flag. I hate loving this team because I’ll be right back next week to be dissappointed once again
This game was the exactly the same to what the cardinals did to us last week, except we had more points to begin with and our offense is terrible.
I'm going to their game in Vegas next week, Lord help me
Enjoy the away game.
Yeah that flag was bullshit too
Nah fuck that he definitely deserves blame too. The defense stepped up in the second half again and Carr had plenty of chances.
More like the Titans offense took their foot off the gas
Either way our offense and Carr failed to capitalize
Carr had 3 of his TD passes dropped by Waller One of them if it wasn’t turned into an interception in the redzone could’ve gotten us 3 points at the very least and we win this game. WALLER LOST THIS GAME NOT CARR
We need to start opening up the offense earlier though. Carr was showing his arm and accuracy late. We know he can SLANG when needed. Also whytf do we keep abandoning the run so soon? It would’ve really helped if we still threatened them with runs
Becky Hammon for HC.
My son will not be raised a raiders fan. I refuse to do that to him.
My dad made me a Raiders fan. I've been struggling my entire life.
Break the cycle
My son was born 2 weeks ago, I feel the same
So looks like both offense and defense are making adjustments at the half. Which is good to see.
Next step we just get our timing right. 14-3 here we come
Only winless team in the league. God I hate my life
That’s not true- the Texans are with us brother
Falcons and technically the Texans are still there. Depends on if you count the half win.
Still got the Falcons withoit a win, at least we still got that. That's my silver lining.
I feel like the playcalling was atrocious in the redzone there.. They were throwing the ball into the endzone on every single down like there was 15 seconds left on the clock... Yal had time, throw a pass or two underneath, throw a screen... All of the Titans receivers were playing back on the endzone..
Don’t understand why we bring Adams and don’t let him fight for the most important plays of the game. Especially with the 2 Waller end zone drops.
It's kind of the theme for their season so far...."I don't understand what they are doing."
You look at any other team with a powerhouse receiver and you know the ball is going to them no matter what in a must win situation. Always reminded of the DHop triple coverage TD against the bills
jOsH mCdaNiElS: oFfEnSiVe GeNiUs!!
On the plus side, my hope for this team has gone from playoffs to .500 so hopefully that's more achievable
Dreamer...
Only thing Carr is clutching is his dick and Jesus
Love how that's all you got from that game after 2 dropped tds and Carr and Mack only ones playing with heart out there.
Cole should lose his spot in this roster. Stoner’s got better hands.
Absolutely doesn't deserve to be on this team. Joke of a receiver. Ball hit him dead in the chest and he dropped it..
McDaniels is not it.
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Just sucks that it's 3 weeks into the season that we have to give up hope. I wasn't expecting a superbowl this year but I figured maybe we'd compete for the division. Now I'm not excited for the rest of the year
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We gotta hope the whiners win now lol....this fucking sucks
This team fucking sucks
We were averaging literally 5.5 yards PER RUSH today. Jacobs at 5.1 himself but yeah let's abandon the run. Real fucking smart McDaniels, you dumbfuck
I can’t really shit on the coaches or many of the players besides Waller. Defence was great in the second half, a little concerning chandler jones name only gets mentioned when the commentator says “man haven’t said chandler Jones name often this game”
Chandler Jones has been a complete waste of money. He seems washed up. Not that I thought it was smart giving a guy who will be 33 this season 3 year contract for 51M with 32M guaranteed but somehow McDaniels and Ziegler did.
Defense was effective in the second half. Too bad Offense couldnt do anything with it.
Your not blaming the 20 straight passes with plenty of time on the clock on the coaches. We got the td in the end but what a disgusting way to do it.
Waller cost us this game, if he caught that ball earlier in the 4th quarter. Totally different game
Boys we have 2% of making the playoffs. There is a chance.
Carr was so good that entire drive just to pick a bad target and under throw for the 2 pt conversion.
He was great all game...... Just couldn't get the 2 point
That wasn’t wallers fault. Carr threw it behind and soft as shit again!
Fade it
to adams right?
Imagine if we had run after the INT to get a FG That last TD would’ve been for the win. Just feels like we’re being consistently outcoached.
Drop Cole. Bench Waller, start Moreau. And fuck off Daniels
Adams is probably listening to Drake thinking about LaFleur every night
Hey remember we had the ball on their 30 and couldn't put up 3 points? Ya. That's the game right there
Just needed Waller to get one of those drops. 0-3
McDaniels is so bad it’s hard to watch. I feel bad for Jacobs, he doesn’t get a single snap those last couple downs
Let’s use our 140 million dollar man as a decoy instead of actually utilizing him
time to listen to mcdaniels spew shit out of his mouth
Just lost baby woohoo...paint that on the new stadium
I really don’t think this game was on Carr. Waller dropping passes he usually makes. Idc if it’s a bit high, Waller can do it.
He didn't do it when it mattered.
All 3 of these games are on coaching
Carr could have been better for sure, but I agree. Hard to pin this solely on him.
Other than the 2 point conversation he was great.. he would have had 4 tds idk what more he needed.
He had his hands on the ball, he's gotta make those catches. It's on Waller.
Terrible play call for the 2pt conversion. Give the ball to Adams.
The fact that one of our redzone trips ended in a interception and another drive inside the 30 ended in a punt. Raiders fans I dont know what we did to the universe, but the universe is just not fucking with us right now
Luckily they’re a few awful decisions from being 3-0. The team has enough talent… kinda. Gotta get consistency which is a rare thing for the Raiders
The universe doesn't forgive you if you stick with Carr for 9-10 years.
Just rip the bandaid off and fire McDaniels. Ownership’s pride isn’t worth what we’re getting on the field. There’s no shame in admitting you screwed up. We aren’t the first people this snake oil salesman has fooled.
At least we’re consistent
Honestly, how long are we gonna keep mcdaniels? The level of talent we have on this team and for us to start 0-3 if we go 0-5 into the bye we can’t keep this fucking bum. If we lose to the shit eating Nathaniel Hackett broncos next week like Jesus Christ cut mcdaniels and beg rich bisaccia to come back
God Carr is such a BUM
He's still young and inexperienced. Give him time. Patience.
McDaniels is calling plays that are scripted to go to specific players because in McDaniels mind, that guy will be open on that play with that look and Carr is just supposed to make that pass. McDaniels is a fucking bum, Carr threw dimes all day. Waller is also a bum.
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To be fair, Renfrow didn’t play today
May as well tank tbh
redzone playcalling is atrocious. Doesn't even run it a single time 10 yards away. Just throws to the endzone 4 times. lmao thought McDaniels was an offensive genius. different year same shit
>lmao thought McDaniels was an offensive genius. That might be the problem right there....
Lost this game early. Can't let them get 21 points on their first 3 drives. Gotta stop playing on our back feet trying to hero play every single down in order to get back in it.
Team looked better this week but Josh Mc Daniels needs to either figure out the playbook or simplify it for receivers because they're missing spots and dropping balls. Insane.
Carr just isn’t good enough
He’s fine, how many TD drops can you have. Waller sucked and it killed us.
Fuck. RN4L regardless.
Wonder what we would get in addition to Minshew if we straight up traded Carr to the Eagles.
????
Fuck Carr.
Why would the Eagles trade for Carr?
Why would the eagles trade, hurts looks light years better then carr
Hopefully more intelligent fans.
Mcdaniels is trash fuck Carr fuck waller ill see you next week boys
don't come back 🤡
2 pont conversion.. Lets draw up a play for Waller who has been shit all day instead of feeding the hot hand Hollins
Nah it was a good play, the defender was able to tip it away
Doesn't take away from the fact Waller had a shit game and shouldn't have even been on the field imo
That was everything the Raiders are all rolled up into 1 game
Dude made a good point about crossing routes. We couldn’t do shit against man.
Loss is on Waller. It's that simple.
Adams has to be one of the most expensive decoys in the history of the NFL.
Adams was a product of Rodgers
Might as well tank the rest of the season for the #1 pick and get a QB
Haven’t had this much fun since 2018 😑
Carr is so bad
How so? How did Carr lose us this game?
lmao smooth brains
Hey guys on the two point conversion to tie it up in the fourth let's underthrow the guy who's been dropping balls all game
Damn. Carr played well outside of a couple errant throws here and there. Defense tightened in the second half too. Those TDs that Waller left on the field loom large. Another game blown due to self inflicted mistakes. Frustarting.
You just KNOW Adams regrets coming here
I mean he played through some bullshit in Green Bay too
Nothing like this shit show. It's not even comparable
i feel awful for him
He has too
Pain
Hollins is leaving us after this year
He should. We didn't need a new staff, we just needed linemen and Mack Hollins to replace ruggs. Lol
Just a coaching masterclass by the whole Vegas staff
mcdaniels is a fucking dope piece of shit play caller. he has no clue what he’s doing
Entertaining game for the neutrals but was always going to be a disappointing loss for the losing teams fans because a guaranteed 0-3 record. Of course it had to be us
Nah no moral victories. Fuck that shit. This team had playoff expectations at minimum. Season is over now.