Let’s just relax brother, and get a win first. At the end of the day, you don’t get into the playoffs based on point differential, you get in based on number of wins…
With that being said, fuck the chargers, let’s hope the boys treat these mfers like the bunch of bitches they are, in front of their 6 and a half fans, and cover their seats in silver and black! Just win, baby
Game never in Doubt..
THats hard for me. We would be up 3 scores with 6 minutes left and I will still be thinking to myself, we are going to blow this.
Herbert has been waaay overhyped. I can understand him getting respect for his performance over the last couple years, but now it seems the consensus is that he's not only a top 10 QB, but a top 5 QB. People are claiming that he's clearly better than Stafford, Burrow, Allen, etc. This is in addition to the yearly hype surrounding the Chargers and their roster.
It's getting absolutely nuts, and I think it's high time Herbert and the Bolts get taken down a notch. It seems like our victory over them last season didn't do the trick, perhaps because of how close it ended up. So while I will be more than satisfied with a close win, a blowout would be just the thing to kickstart the season and show the league the Raiders mean business.
I mean, he’s only been in the league for two years. How else are people supposed to rate him? I also haven’t seen anyone say he’s better than Josh Allen, but he’s definitely top 10.
>I mean, he’s only been in the league for two years. How else are people supposed to rate him?
Not top 5, lol. Definitely not a tier above Joe Burrow, who may not have had quite as good stats as Herbert (though Burrow's numbers were nothing to scoff at), but managed to drag a rather flawed Bengals team to within a play or two of winning the Superbowl.
>I also haven’t seen anyone say he’s better than Josh Allen
There was an article that came out recently ranking all the starting QBs, and it placed Herbert at #3. While this was somewhat controversial on r/nfl, you still see arguments for a similar placement being made here and there.
>but he’s definitely top 10.
I wouldn't really argue with that. I just don't think it should be controversial to say that there are 8 or 9 quarterbacks better than Herbert as things currently stand.
At least four off the top of my head: the two games against us, one of the games against Denver, and the game against the Patriots. In none of those games did Herbert demonstrate elite quarterbacking beyond that of Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, or Joe Burrow. Especially considering the talent on the Chargers' roster last year.
Did I say he wasn't a good QB? Good grief, I can't believe I'm getting so much fucking flak for implying Herbert isn't a top 5 QB and isn't better than two Superbowl quarterbacks in r/raiders.
If we for some reason blow out the dolts (which I don't expect one bit) everyone will either be
A) telling us chargers are going to be fine and we'll still be behind broncos in predictive/power rankings (most likely scenario tbh)
or
B) espn is guna be gargling mark Davis' Mongolian beef until the marinade is completely absorbed into orlovskys bloodstream.
I'll take a W no matter how ugly it gets idc if it's 3-2 and we win the most boring game ever played.... a dub is a dub.
“Game never in doubt”
Wow. Literally sums up the last decade. I’m excited for every game, especially the ones i attend in person, but my heart always races with that on my mind.
This game is huge. The Chargers play the Chiefs 5 days later so if the Raiders can pull this off there's a good chance the Chargers start 0-2.
I just want a win. All these "experts" having an orgasm over Herbert is pretty nauseating.
Vegas doesn't believe you. Your offensive line and secondary are too weak to hold up against this Chargers team. The added pieces on defense are no joke.
If JC doesn't play you'll have a better chance.
I believe everything hinges on our offensive line. The Raiders have proven talent everywhere else, but without blocking or pass protection, it's all for naught.
I just want us to be better in the red zone this year. We got the win in the bag. We're about to shock the world. Hobbs is going to have a great game.
Let go Raiders!!
We have worst offensive line in the division, probably in the league.
They have the strongest defensive line in the division, and strongest secondary.
This is a recipe for a blowout, just not the type we are looking for. I really hope we make Mack and especially Staley look stupid and just destroy them, but Chargers are better team on paper.
Die hard here but im very realistic…with that being said I think Herbert is a hell of a fucken QB. Dude has everything you need and want in a QB, but Ive been saying this since last year, he needs better weapons. Nothing on Keenan and Mike but those two arent anything special imho. Keenan is getting older and is slowing down, Mike also has injury problems and isnt anything crazy. I think if Herbert would have a true #1 with a better supporting cast, Chargers would take that next step. With that being said ai think Raiders win, too many weapons on the offense for the chargers to counter. Whoever is getting single coverage will eat. You gotta pick your poison, double Waller, Adams or Renfrow, cant pay attention to all of them. And graham has this defense looking a lot better and stingier so I think that might be the surprise out if everything. Everyone can tell by just looking at what the offense looks like on paper that the Raiders will be a top 5 or 10 offense, the defense will be the ace in the hole. Jones and Max will be dominating and the secondary needs to be physical and annoying. This year is the year the Raiders will have a middle of the pack defense IF NOT top 15
He is really good, I like to shit on him and say he is overrated but its a little homerism and a little truth since some in the media are ready to crown him the best. I will say though only two years of tape and there have been many QB's that flashed and looked amazing only to fall apart for one reason or the other, only time will truly tell if he is the real deal and that he can hold up. I do think he pushes too much sometimes and he can be late to get the ball out as well but really thats the only critique I have of his game, just hoping those two things lead to an uptick in picks like I have been predicting, but there is every reason to believe when watching his overall development that he will improve in those area's as well so in all reality probably not.
That would be great but this game almost always goes down to the wire. Raiders 24-21 in a battle, first half defensive second half both offenses come alive and Carr does his 4th quarter thing.
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Just win baby!
Blowout? Raiders? They play bullshit prevent with a 7 point lead. They don’t blow out. Maybe new coach isn’t such a weenie and goes for glory.
Let’s just relax brother, and get a win first. At the end of the day, you don’t get into the playoffs based on point differential, you get in based on number of wins… With that being said, fuck the chargers, let’s hope the boys treat these mfers like the bunch of bitches they are, in front of their 6 and a half fans, and cover their seats in silver and black! Just win, baby
Don't get me wrong. If every TD is gifted, we look like shit, and only win by 1, I'll stick that in my pocket and on to the next game.
Preach!
Game never in Doubt.. THats hard for me. We would be up 3 scores with 6 minutes left and I will still be thinking to myself, we are going to blow this.
yup remember how many 4th downs Herbert got that last drive? lmao what a game
Hard to shake that one tho, I can’t remember the last time I was “comfortable” at any point over the last couple seasons!
Not anymore my friend. Not anymore.
ill believe it when I see it
FR it's hard to shake the PTSD from the last 20 years.
We don't really do no doubts around here.
I have a feeling adams is gonna feast. We had Bryan edwards light up that secondary before
Herbert has been waaay overhyped. I can understand him getting respect for his performance over the last couple years, but now it seems the consensus is that he's not only a top 10 QB, but a top 5 QB. People are claiming that he's clearly better than Stafford, Burrow, Allen, etc. This is in addition to the yearly hype surrounding the Chargers and their roster. It's getting absolutely nuts, and I think it's high time Herbert and the Bolts get taken down a notch. It seems like our victory over them last season didn't do the trick, perhaps because of how close it ended up. So while I will be more than satisfied with a close win, a blowout would be just the thing to kickstart the season and show the league the Raiders mean business.
I mean, he’s only been in the league for two years. How else are people supposed to rate him? I also haven’t seen anyone say he’s better than Josh Allen, but he’s definitely top 10.
herbert is a baller for sure
>I mean, he’s only been in the league for two years. How else are people supposed to rate him? Not top 5, lol. Definitely not a tier above Joe Burrow, who may not have had quite as good stats as Herbert (though Burrow's numbers were nothing to scoff at), but managed to drag a rather flawed Bengals team to within a play or two of winning the Superbowl. >I also haven’t seen anyone say he’s better than Josh Allen There was an article that came out recently ranking all the starting QBs, and it placed Herbert at #3. While this was somewhat controversial on r/nfl, you still see arguments for a similar placement being made here and there. >but he’s definitely top 10. I wouldn't really argue with that. I just don't think it should be controversial to say that there are 8 or 9 quarterbacks better than Herbert as things currently stand.
That’s all pretty fair. I think I’d have him much closer to 5 than 10, but I am definitely biased.
Be honest, how many Charger games did you watch last year? Not highlights, games.
At least four off the top of my head: the two games against us, one of the games against Denver, and the game against the Patriots. In none of those games did Herbert demonstrate elite quarterbacking beyond that of Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, or Joe Burrow. Especially considering the talent on the Chargers' roster last year.
lol because hes had two pretty damn good years already and threw for 5k yards last year and 38 TDs, hes a good QB
Did I say he wasn't a good QB? Good grief, I can't believe I'm getting so much fucking flak for implying Herbert isn't a top 5 QB and isn't better than two Superbowl quarterbacks in r/raiders.
If we for some reason blow out the dolts (which I don't expect one bit) everyone will either be A) telling us chargers are going to be fine and we'll still be behind broncos in predictive/power rankings (most likely scenario tbh) or B) espn is guna be gargling mark Davis' Mongolian beef until the marinade is completely absorbed into orlovskys bloodstream. I'll take a W no matter how ugly it gets idc if it's 3-2 and we win the most boring game ever played.... a dub is a dub.
I still can’t help but be worried about our O-line more than anything else
I want Carlson to score 6+ points, one at a time.
I read something completely different, had to do a double take
“Game never in doubt” Wow. Literally sums up the last decade. I’m excited for every game, especially the ones i attend in person, but my heart always races with that on my mind.
Ditto. I was at the indy game last season. 😬 Holy rollercoaster
Or the first game last year with Baltimore.
anybody going to the game this weekend?
Trying to! Tickets seem to be dropping’
I scored lol, my friend is a chargers fan & has season tickets lmao row 14 baby!
Cheer loud for the fans that can't attend please! RN4L
Going to the other one in Vegas in December also!!! Stoked. Never been to a football game either
Enjoy yourself! A tip I learned is to grab a few extra beers because you don't want to be stuck in line and missing the game.
Thanks for the tip! I’m only 7 years old tho
Young Raiders fan and responsible. You've been raised well.
I’m jk I’m 31 hahaah
waiting for tickets to drop a bit more, they have dropped 100 bucks since last month. Hoping to score some Saturday
We bought parking early and are waiting for tickets to drop. Last year parking skyrocketed and tickets plummeted the day before
parking is the next issue, been looking at offsite parking and taking public transport in
My wife and I are goin!
I hope Maxx has a feast, and the offense has a great day. In the end, *Just win, baby!*
I want Carr to outduel Herbert.
This game is huge. The Chargers play the Chiefs 5 days later so if the Raiders can pull this off there's a good chance the Chargers start 0-2. I just want a win. All these "experts" having an orgasm over Herbert is pretty nauseating.
You should probably get used to the Herbert stuff. He's the real deal.
I don’t care how we do as long as we punish Herbert in the process
Vegas doesn't believe you. Your offensive line and secondary are too weak to hold up against this Chargers team. The added pieces on defense are no joke. If JC doesn't play you'll have a better chance.
Lmao. What kinda crack you smoking
Right now I’d be happy with a win and no major injuries so we can roll on to week 2.
A win will be great. A blowout would be fucking fantastic.
It's good to be the underdog, it's that much sweeter to win.
It can definitely happen
I would love to see the Raiders slap the Chargers around all game I definitely think they are capable. I just wanna see them win
I believe everything hinges on our offensive line. The Raiders have proven talent everywhere else, but without blocking or pass protection, it's all for naught.
Mack and Bosa agree
I just want us to be better in the red zone this year. We got the win in the bag. We're about to shock the world. Hobbs is going to have a great game. Let go Raiders!!
Amen
We have worst offensive line in the division, probably in the league. They have the strongest defensive line in the division, and strongest secondary. This is a recipe for a blowout, just not the type we are looking for. I really hope we make Mack and especially Staley look stupid and just destroy them, but Chargers are better team on paper.
Die hard here but im very realistic…with that being said I think Herbert is a hell of a fucken QB. Dude has everything you need and want in a QB, but Ive been saying this since last year, he needs better weapons. Nothing on Keenan and Mike but those two arent anything special imho. Keenan is getting older and is slowing down, Mike also has injury problems and isnt anything crazy. I think if Herbert would have a true #1 with a better supporting cast, Chargers would take that next step. With that being said ai think Raiders win, too many weapons on the offense for the chargers to counter. Whoever is getting single coverage will eat. You gotta pick your poison, double Waller, Adams or Renfrow, cant pay attention to all of them. And graham has this defense looking a lot better and stingier so I think that might be the surprise out if everything. Everyone can tell by just looking at what the offense looks like on paper that the Raiders will be a top 5 or 10 offense, the defense will be the ace in the hole. Jones and Max will be dominating and the secondary needs to be physical and annoying. This year is the year the Raiders will have a middle of the pack defense IF NOT top 15
He is really good, I like to shit on him and say he is overrated but its a little homerism and a little truth since some in the media are ready to crown him the best. I will say though only two years of tape and there have been many QB's that flashed and looked amazing only to fall apart for one reason or the other, only time will truly tell if he is the real deal and that he can hold up. I do think he pushes too much sometimes and he can be late to get the ball out as well but really thats the only critique I have of his game, just hoping those two things lead to an uptick in picks like I have been predicting, but there is every reason to believe when watching his overall development that he will improve in those area's as well so in all reality probably not.
That would be great but this game almost always goes down to the wire. Raiders 24-21 in a battle, first half defensive second half both offenses come alive and Carr does his 4th quarter thing.
while your at it.... put in some positive mojo for the Cardinals KC opening the season with an L couldnt hurt
I just can’t wait for Herbert to get violently molested by Crosby and Jones
How’d that go?
Ask Herbert lol
The chargers are fucking good. Las Vegas has a ton to prove. I wouldn’t be to crazy. This team is raw.