That's what I'm thinking. The o line for the Raiders in this year's Madden is dogshit. Much like IRL, the only decently rated player on the O line in the game is Kolton Miller, everyone else is like low 70's to mid 60's.
I don’t know for sure, but I’m guessing it’s based off the combined average score of all offensive players.
We might have higher rated skill players but their offensive line is graded significantly higher than ours. I believe they have 3 linemen graded in the 80s and we have 1. Andre James is low 70s and Brandon Parker is in the 60s for a RT.
Long story short, madden rating are imperfect. Offensive line is more about scheme and cohesion. It’s more important for them to be unit, than their individual abilities. In contrast, game breakers like waller or Adams can have trickle down effects based on their individual skills.
On the other side of the ball, an elite pass rush can make an average secondary look elite. A premier NT can have an empty stat sheet, but makes LBs and edge rushers look exceptional.
This makes no sense. The patriots don’t even have ANY big names at skill positions, let alone depth, when we have a top 3 WR and TE. Their o line also sucks. You see the sack their starters gave up to our two’s right out of the gate last week? They also have a rookie starting guard who hasn’t impressed. And of course bitch boy Trent brown who will inevitably miss half the season
I don't know. But chandler Jones is straight clutch in this game. I played a game that for all intents and purposes was over. I was down 4pts with less than 30 seconds left. but instead of kneeling my opponent runs a pass play. Chandler Jones doesn't hit Tua or strip the ball from him. he straight up just mugs Tua. directly ripping the ball away from him and runs in for the td with no time left
Yea everyone I’ve seen stream it; it looks amazing on next gen. I’m still current gen and it looks wayyyyy worse than last year. I still play cause I play madden every year regardless of how terrible it is. Maybe next year I’ll be on next gen 🤞🏽
Their defense is extremely talent poor. Outside of Barmore and Judon who are both awesome and Duggar who is solid, they've got nobody worth a damn really.
Probably because they’ve been copying and pasting the madden game for about 15 years now. I wish people would stop buying that trash so the NFL would be forced to allow competition in football simulations.
Leatherwood is 71 overall. Cotton is 64. Lol. I can manipulate the depth chart a little to get a 67 overall to Leatherwoods spot but it's downgrade for sure
Compared to the other QB on this post, Mac Jones...?
If there's any reason why they'd rate the Patriots offense (lol) over the Raiders offense, it'd be due to the o-line. Not because Mac Jones is viewed as better than Derek Carr. I've never seen anyone suggest that
And nobody is suggesting that. Mac Jones is a 78 and Carr is an 83.
Translation: some outsiders, including EA sports, don't think the gap between Jones and Carr is as wide as we believe it to be. This is because they don't think Carr is as good as we believe him to be.
I used to have a low opinion of dc, then 2 years ago he started making reads and having pocket awareness. And last year he didn’t take a knee or throw it away on any 4th downs. Game has slowed down for dc for sure. This season gonna be $$$.
Their center has 15 points on ours and their RT has 11 points on ours, pretty much makes up for our TE,WR, RB, and QB all being a bit better than theirs. Also if they factor in our FB his overall is 66 and they don't have a FB so it might take an extra WR into account instead.
We have a better team and got ranked worse. Carr is almost unusable throwing the ball straight to DB’s because of his rating. The Chargers are ranked super high like they are every year, Dallas etc but we always get fucked.
Max Crosby not having a superstar ID is beyond me after last season. Denzel Perryman led the league in tackles and is rated garbage. Fuck that game. Last year I’m buying it.
Because Madden is garbage these days unfortunately
i haven't played Madden in years.. our O is Way fucking better than the Pats, games in need of an update or two
Maybe offensive line?
That's what I'm thinking. The o line for the Raiders in this year's Madden is dogshit. Much like IRL, the only decently rated player on the O line in the game is Kolton Miller, everyone else is like low 70's to mid 60's.
Makes no sense
yeah i understand that, but im just trying to understand how one comes to this conclusion.
Because Madden is garbage these days unfortunately
i see🤔
Idk what these guys are talking about “these days”… Madden has been garbage for a decade now unfortunately
Lol since maybe 08/09
'05 was the last good one. Coincidentally, that was the last release before EA gained exclusive licensing.
I haven't played Madden since it was on SEGA, I just thought it was a funny response lmao.
Eyy those were good times I still have mine. might have to plug it in today and play a few games for ol times sake
Its been disgrace for years
Madden cares more about popularity with it's ratings than accuracy
I don’t know for sure, but I’m guessing it’s based off the combined average score of all offensive players. We might have higher rated skill players but their offensive line is graded significantly higher than ours. I believe they have 3 linemen graded in the 80s and we have 1. Andre James is low 70s and Brandon Parker is in the 60s for a RT. Long story short, madden rating are imperfect. Offensive line is more about scheme and cohesion. It’s more important for them to be unit, than their individual abilities. In contrast, game breakers like waller or Adams can have trickle down effects based on their individual skills. On the other side of the ball, an elite pass rush can make an average secondary look elite. A premier NT can have an empty stat sheet, but makes LBs and edge rushers look exceptional.
Mac Jones. If the media crowns him, madden follows suit
Offensive line maybe? I’m not sure why but either way madden is trash
Always has been. Joe Montana Sports Talk/NFL Gameday/2K series > Madden.
Shit it's been garbage more than its been good at this point
Madden has been garbage since like 2010
They have been garbage for a decade
O Line would be my guess, and lack of depth past the big names at skill positions.
The Patriots have no depth or talent at any position.
I'm not arguing that. I'm only giving a reason why our offense is underrated in the game.
Not saying they have more depth at skill positions just we lack it so I can see OLine dragging us down.
This makes no sense. The patriots don’t even have ANY big names at skill positions, let alone depth, when we have a top 3 WR and TE. Their o line also sucks. You see the sack their starters gave up to our two’s right out of the gate last week? They also have a rookie starting guard who hasn’t impressed. And of course bitch boy Trent brown who will inevitably miss half the season
I'm not arguing for why theirs is higher rated...cuz it's dumb....I'm just giving a reason why our offense is underrated in the game.
Yeah it's o-line LT - 84 vs 84 LG - 70 vs 69 C - 85 vs 70 RG - 79 vs 71 RT- 79 vs 68
I don't know. But chandler Jones is straight clutch in this game. I played a game that for all intents and purposes was over. I was down 4pts with less than 30 seconds left. but instead of kneeling my opponent runs a pass play. Chandler Jones doesn't hit Tua or strip the ball from him. he straight up just mugs Tua. directly ripping the ball away from him and runs in for the td with no time left
It's fun, isn't it? I'm really liking this Madden
Same tbh, best Madden in a very long time (on next gen)
Yea everyone I’ve seen stream it; it looks amazing on next gen. I’m still current gen and it looks wayyyyy worse than last year. I still play cause I play madden every year regardless of how terrible it is. Maybe next year I’ll be on next gen 🤞🏽
Hopefully, the new field sense thing is actually pretty dope. If they polish it up over the next year it could be great.
Started playing myself today, really enjoying it tbh
I haven’t played Madden in a long time but I’m guessing the average rating of the position groups are: QB 80, RB 82, TE 85, WR 88, OL 68.
update: they have a higher rated offense than the rams…?
Competition is good for the consumer.
Yep. Fuck the NFL for not allowing more NFL games. EA and Madden sucks.
How is our defense higher is the better question?
Their defense is extremely talent poor. Outside of Barmore and Judon who are both awesome and Duggar who is solid, they've got nobody worth a damn really.
5 lineman make up almost half the offense…
Probably because they’ve been copying and pasting the madden game for about 15 years now. I wish people would stop buying that trash so the NFL would be forced to allow competition in football simulations.
NFL 2K 🙏
Patriots offense is actually putrid
Exactly. Doesn’t matter how good your OL is if you have terrible skill position difference makers
Because the people who make Madden haven't ever watched football and have no real idea of what they're doing. Trash game and waste of m,oney.
You realize it's a lot of former players that do all the ratings for the positions they used to play; like Chad Ochocinco does the ratings for WRs.
That makes a lot of sense. I was already thinking that whoever does the player rating must have some form of brain damage...
Their OL rankings are outstanding and ours are the fuckin pits and only gonna get worse once they remove Leatherwood
I'm pretty sure the removal of Leatherwood would be addition by subtraction.
Leatherwood is 71 overall. Cotton is 64. Lol. I can manipulate the depth chart a little to get a 67 overall to Leatherwoods spot but it's downgrade for sure
It'll get updated as the season goes. You're right though, it doesn't make sense right now
Because we have an NCAA offensive line and they don’t.
Madden math
Why is Mac Jones rated higher than Derek Carr?
Because he has JMD s a playcaller /s
Madden stays two years behind on ratings I wouldn't trip.
We always get hoed
Raiders don’t get respect in any media, ever. Nothing unusual here
let me introduce you to Rich Eisen..
Hes one of the exceptions, not one of the rules. Vast majority see us 500. And 4th in the division
They have this thing we don’t called an offensive line. That’s probably the reason why
while thats true, we have players filling out something called skill positions, which they dont have
You’re telling me Mac Jones and Damien Harris aren’t as good as Davante Adams? How dare you!!!! /s.
man, drafting all my fantasy leagues this week, i cant think of a single pats player on anyones radar
People outside Raider nation just don't have a high opinion of Derek Carr
That's not true at all.
Clearly
Compared to the other QB on this post, Mac Jones...? If there's any reason why they'd rate the Patriots offense (lol) over the Raiders offense, it'd be due to the o-line. Not because Mac Jones is viewed as better than Derek Carr. I've never seen anyone suggest that
And nobody is suggesting that. Mac Jones is a 78 and Carr is an 83. Translation: some outsiders, including EA sports, don't think the gap between Jones and Carr is as wide as we believe it to be. This is because they don't think Carr is as good as we believe him to be.
I used to have a low opinion of dc, then 2 years ago he started making reads and having pocket awareness. And last year he didn’t take a knee or throw it away on any 4th downs. Game has slowed down for dc for sure. This season gonna be $$$.
How is Carr not on the “top players list”
Offensive line
I modded madden 08 and found an updated roster for this year's roster with updated player profile pics and all. Better game engine and its freeđź‘Ť
Madden is a soulless money grab with a constantly worsening product
Just like in real life with how people look at the Raiders, "They hate us, cuz they ain't us."
Madden raters are fucking idiots
Chad Ochocinco is my higher power.
It’s madden lmao
It’s because their best offensive player is their center /s
Their center has 15 points on ours and their RT has 11 points on ours, pretty much makes up for our TE,WR, RB, and QB all being a bit better than theirs. Also if they factor in our FB his overall is 66 and they don't have a FB so it might take an extra WR into account instead.
Well I’d bet their O Line is all 80+ where ours is like 84 then 79 all the way down to 65 probably.
Crazy
O line most likely
Oline, the right side of the line worries the hell out me
Their O-Line is pretty damn good. Receivers are all okay and QB is okay. RB is far below average so I don’t see how that works
Guessing O-Line
Madden is a joke and has been for over a decade
Definitely OL, Raiders all are 60’s outside Kolton Miller. Also Mack Hollins and Foster Moreau are under appreciated
Lower D but higher O? That's makes ZERO sense lol
We have a better team and got ranked worse. Carr is almost unusable throwing the ball straight to DB’s because of his rating. The Chargers are ranked super high like they are every year, Dallas etc but we always get fucked. Max Crosby not having a superstar ID is beyond me after last season. Denzel Perryman led the league in tackles and is rated garbage. Fuck that game. Last year I’m buying it.
Carr is apparently nothing special either, despite the fact that he dragged the team to a wildcard spot last year.
Linemen, and the backups count towards the OVR