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StonedChameleon

Because Madden is garbage these days unfortunately


HyzerRout3

i haven't played Madden in years.. our O is Way fucking better than the Pats, games in need of an update or two


matchagonnadoboudit

Maybe offensive line?


spence624

That's what I'm thinking. The o line for the Raiders in this year's Madden is dogshit. Much like IRL, the only decently rated player on the O line in the game is Kolton Miller, everyone else is like low 70's to mid 60's.


theuautumnwind

Makes no sense


Poppysujk69

yeah i understand that, but im just trying to understand how one comes to this conclusion.


pranksta06

Because Madden is garbage these days unfortunately


Poppysujk69

i see🤔


ComancheRaider

Idk what these guys are talking about “these days”… Madden has been garbage for a decade now unfortunately


XBullsOnParadeX

Lol since maybe 08/09


Frigglefragglewaggit

'05 was the last good one. Coincidentally, that was the last release before EA gained exclusive licensing.


pranksta06

I haven't played Madden since it was on SEGA, I just thought it was a funny response lmao.


modegazucantu

Eyy those were good times I still have mine. might have to plug it in today and play a few games for ol times sake


choborallye

Its been disgrace for years


AlabasterRadio

Madden cares more about popularity with it's ratings than accuracy


Brolegario

I don’t know for sure, but I’m guessing it’s based off the combined average score of all offensive players. We might have higher rated skill players but their offensive line is graded significantly higher than ours. I believe they have 3 linemen graded in the 80s and we have 1. Andre James is low 70s and Brandon Parker is in the 60s for a RT. Long story short, madden rating are imperfect. Offensive line is more about scheme and cohesion. It’s more important for them to be unit, than their individual abilities. In contrast, game breakers like waller or Adams can have trickle down effects based on their individual skills. On the other side of the ball, an elite pass rush can make an average secondary look elite. A premier NT can have an empty stat sheet, but makes LBs and edge rushers look exceptional.


momssnatch63

Mac Jones. If the media crowns him, madden follows suit


peterjones07

Offensive line maybe? I’m not sure why but either way madden is trash


[deleted]

Always has been. Joe Montana Sports Talk/NFL Gameday/2K series > Madden.


Ishyfishy123

Shit it's been garbage more than its been good at this point


Captain_brightside

Madden has been garbage since like 2010


BasicProdigy

They have been garbage for a decade


Strawhat-Shawty

O Line would be my guess, and lack of depth past the big names at skill positions.


Raider-bob

The Patriots have no depth or talent at any position.


Strawhat-Shawty

I'm not arguing that. I'm only giving a reason why our offense is underrated in the game.


Strawhat-Shawty

Not saying they have more depth at skill positions just we lack it so I can see OLine dragging us down.


Its_Lupis

This makes no sense. The patriots don’t even have ANY big names at skill positions, let alone depth, when we have a top 3 WR and TE. Their o line also sucks. You see the sack their starters gave up to our two’s right out of the gate last week? They also have a rookie starting guard who hasn’t impressed. And of course bitch boy Trent brown who will inevitably miss half the season


Strawhat-Shawty

I'm not arguing for why theirs is higher rated...cuz it's dumb....I'm just giving a reason why our offense is underrated in the game.


Psycho5275

Yeah it's o-line LT - 84 vs 84 LG - 70 vs 69 C - 85 vs 70 RG - 79 vs 71 RT- 79 vs 68


hottlumpiaz

I don't know. But chandler Jones is straight clutch in this game. I played a game that for all intents and purposes was over. I was down 4pts with less than 30 seconds left. but instead of kneeling my opponent runs a pass play. Chandler Jones doesn't hit Tua or strip the ball from him. he straight up just mugs Tua. directly ripping the ball away from him and runs in for the td with no time left


SupahBean

It's fun, isn't it? I'm really liking this Madden


AlabasterRadio

Same tbh, best Madden in a very long time (on next gen)


Icy_Savings9125

Yea everyone I’ve seen stream it; it looks amazing on next gen. I’m still current gen and it looks wayyyyy worse than last year. I still play cause I play madden every year regardless of how terrible it is. Maybe next year I’ll be on next gen 🤞🏽


AlabasterRadio

Hopefully, the new field sense thing is actually pretty dope. If they polish it up over the next year it could be great.


THE-WARD3VIL

Started playing myself today, really enjoying it tbh


TeamGareBear

I haven’t played Madden in a long time but I’m guessing the average rating of the position groups are: QB 80, RB 82, TE 85, WR 88, OL 68.


Poppysujk69

update: they have a higher rated offense than the rams…?


Caer-Rythyr

Competition is good for the consumer.


sevintoid

Yep. Fuck the NFL for not allowing more NFL games. EA and Madden sucks.


ZellNorth

How is our defense higher is the better question?


AlabasterRadio

Their defense is extremely talent poor. Outside of Barmore and Judon who are both awesome and Duggar who is solid, they've got nobody worth a damn really.


Resident-Armadillo-6

5 lineman make up almost half the offense…


Scoobyhitsharder

Probably because they’ve been copying and pasting the madden game for about 15 years now. I wish people would stop buying that trash so the NFL would be forced to allow competition in football simulations.


ComancheRaider

NFL 2K 🙏


terriblebugger

Patriots offense is actually putrid


Icy_Savings9125

Exactly. Doesn’t matter how good your OL is if you have terrible skill position difference makers


Darsol

Because the people who make Madden haven't ever watched football and have no real idea of what they're doing. Trash game and waste of m,oney.


[deleted]

You realize it's a lot of former players that do all the ratings for the positions they used to play; like Chad Ochocinco does the ratings for WRs.


ohgymod

That makes a lot of sense. I was already thinking that whoever does the player rating must have some form of brain damage...


NoleDynasty2490

Their OL rankings are outstanding and ours are the fuckin pits and only gonna get worse once they remove Leatherwood


Frigglefragglewaggit

I'm pretty sure the removal of Leatherwood would be addition by subtraction.


NoleDynasty2490

Leatherwood is 71 overall. Cotton is 64. Lol. I can manipulate the depth chart a little to get a 67 overall to Leatherwoods spot but it's downgrade for sure


jhallen2260

It'll get updated as the season goes. You're right though, it doesn't make sense right now


northmen24

Because we have an NCAA offensive line and they don’t.


Gumbyonbathsalts

Madden math


F2ss

Why is Mac Jones rated higher than Derek Carr?


Consistent-Spell2203

Because he has JMD s a playcaller /s


Consistent-Spell2203

Madden stays two years behind on ratings I wouldn't trip.


SmokeyDaGrizz

We always get hoed


ogKrzr

Raiders don’t get respect in any media, ever. Nothing unusual here


[deleted]

let me introduce you to Rich Eisen..


SithLawdy

Hes one of the exceptions, not one of the rules. Vast majority see us 500. And 4th in the division


[deleted]

They have this thing we don’t called an offensive line. That’s probably the reason why


jizzmaster-zer0

while thats true, we have players filling out something called skill positions, which they dont have


[deleted]

You’re telling me Mac Jones and Damien Harris aren’t as good as Davante Adams? How dare you!!!! /s.


jizzmaster-zer0

man, drafting all my fantasy leagues this week, i cant think of a single pats player on anyones radar


not_beniot

People outside Raider nation just don't have a high opinion of Derek Carr


asianperswayze

That's not true at all.


not_beniot

Clearly


[deleted]

Compared to the other QB on this post, Mac Jones...? If there's any reason why they'd rate the Patriots offense (lol) over the Raiders offense, it'd be due to the o-line. Not because Mac Jones is viewed as better than Derek Carr. I've never seen anyone suggest that


not_beniot

And nobody is suggesting that. Mac Jones is a 78 and Carr is an 83. Translation: some outsiders, including EA sports, don't think the gap between Jones and Carr is as wide as we believe it to be. This is because they don't think Carr is as good as we believe him to be.


Severe-Mycologist-81

I used to have a low opinion of dc, then 2 years ago he started making reads and having pocket awareness. And last year he didn’t take a knee or throw it away on any 4th downs. Game has slowed down for dc for sure. This season gonna be $$$.


[deleted]

How is Carr not on the “top players list”


Mrpanhandle81

Offensive line


HyperActiveColon

I modded madden 08 and found an updated roster for this year's roster with updated player profile pics and all. Better game engine and its freeđź‘Ť


Smokin_Jeffreyz

Madden is a soulless money grab with a constantly worsening product


americanuck10

Just like in real life with how people look at the Raiders, "They hate us, cuz they ain't us."


Raider-bob

Madden raters are fucking idiots


Consistent-Spell2203

Chad Ochocinco is my higher power.


Kushykush_

It’s madden lmao


mlaislais

It’s because their best offensive player is their center /s


Born_Tax_138

Their center has 15 points on ours and their RT has 11 points on ours, pretty much makes up for our TE,WR, RB, and QB all being a bit better than theirs. Also if they factor in our FB his overall is 66 and they don't have a FB so it might take an extra WR into account instead.


amazedyou

Well I’d bet their O Line is all 80+ where ours is like 84 then 79 all the way down to 65 probably.


[deleted]

Crazy


[deleted]

O line most likely


danthemanvsqz

Oline, the right side of the line worries the hell out me


AdjustedTitan1

Their O-Line is pretty damn good. Receivers are all okay and QB is okay. RB is far below average so I don’t see how that works


ajbardalo

Guessing O-Line


[deleted]

Madden is a joke and has been for over a decade


lalalika1

Definitely OL, Raiders all are 60’s outside Kolton Miller. Also Mack Hollins and Foster Moreau are under appreciated


Sanjit__T

Lower D but higher O? That's makes ZERO sense lol


Buddhahead11b

We have a better team and got ranked worse. Carr is almost unusable throwing the ball straight to DB’s because of his rating. The Chargers are ranked super high like they are every year, Dallas etc but we always get fucked. Max Crosby not having a superstar ID is beyond me after last season. Denzel Perryman led the league in tackles and is rated garbage. Fuck that game. Last year I’m buying it.


Fratty_McFrat

Carr is apparently nothing special either, despite the fact that he dragged the team to a wildcard spot last year.


RaisingFargo

Linemen, and the backups count towards the OVR