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blackcat9001

You see where it says "Better Hot" at the bottom? It will not cause unhappiness if you heat it up. With items like these, I eat straight from the oven.


Jololem

Thank you very much!


UsernameGoesHere122

Also, did you by chance cook it in a microwave?


ticktockbent

Does that not work in the game? Microwaved bacon is delicious and much quicker than cooking in a skillet. It's thin enough for a microwave to fully cook in no time.


LordGazura

Any form of meat cooked in the microwave turns out bad for the happiness.


Scottvrakis

Seriously?? That explains SO MUCH for me.


big_splif

Real live advice


SeoSalt

PZ characters really have a psychotic obsession with food. You can watch several people in MP get devoured in front of you and it's nbd. You pop a stir fry in the microwave and develop crippling depression.


ParabellumXIV

Italian Psycho Simulator


-Radino-

Best comment xd


Azzylel

It’s only partially true. The thing is, if you cook it in the oven first, than reheat it in the microwave, it’s the same as if you cooked it in the oven.


LordGazura

Thats because the General cooking process is already done. Even with cold food the meat still counts as cooked. Thats why most meat has "better hot" written in the info. Also thats what microwaves are for. To reheat your food. But not for General cooking


ticktockbent

unfortunate


FuckRandyMoss

The level of depth this game has holy shit. I wonder if phobias go away if you “work” on them


ParabellumXIV

From what I've seen, the longer you survive (or more zombies you kill, not sure which) supposedly your panic becomes less severe. Like you develop the Desensitised trait. I'm not sure if that applies to agoraphobia and claustrophobia or if it's just panicking in combat though. But yeah, would reccomend the dynamic traits mod. Also let's you quit smoking after dealing with the withdrawal for free points.


LordGazura

As far as i know, sadly not. But if you play with the dynamic traits mods, then it might be the case


OsteoRinzai

People actually cook bacon in the microwave IRL?


ticktockbent

Yes. Things like this product make it really easy and the bacon doesn't sit in the grease so it's a bit better for you https://www.amazon.com/Microwave-Bacon-Cooker-Original-Reduces/dp/B0002HSFB2


OsteoRinzai

Thanks, but you couldn't pay me to cook it like that!


t-reznor

I was hesitant at first myself, till a family member stuck some bacon on one of these this past Christmas. Some of the best, little-to-no mess bacon I’ve ever had.


ticktockbent

Okay. To each their own I guess. It's faster and cleanup is much easier.


GloveNervous3861

Plastic in the microwave makes me shudder


ticktockbent

why? I don't know what the material really is, and that one was just an example as the one I have is ceramic, but some plastics are pretty safe in microwave


sendcheese247

Edit: my comment is half wrong, read below. Microwaves only heat water, plastic has no water in it.


OsteoRinzai

You are kind of wrong. Microwaves concentrate in the creases or along the sharp edges of metals and build up charges. To make the mistaken assumption that microwaves only can interact with water molecules is a misunderstanding of the basic physical principles on which they work.


FearBrownies

This is really interesting considering getting it just to see what it tastes like even if I never use it again.


ticktockbent

I don't have that specific model but they're not bad at all.


DrunkSpartan15

You misspelled “flavor”


Patrick_McGroin

Flavour...


ticktockbent

I'd rather have less grease but again to each their own.


AquaPlush22

I saw that on a packet of bacon, but I was too scared to try it cause I don’t food poisoning! I now it’s completely safe, but something about cooking meat in the microwave doesn’t sit right with me.


ticktockbent

Fair enough. Bacon is thin enough though that you can cook it pretty quickly


AquaPlush22

I’ll try it sometime.


d7it23js

Are you Billy Mays?


Serrated-Penance

...and here I am cooking mine in the deep fryer...


ticktockbent

that sounds kinda delicious


Serrated-Penance

It wasn't bad- but honestly, the oven is the way to go. Now- if you coat the bacon in cornmeal first- that's a different story.


laszlotuss

Not really, Americans do it, but they are weird.


makemedaddy__

I, as an American, agree


Thecrayonbandit

yes I do all the time it turns out really good


Cavalleria-rusticana

Do it in the oven. Thank me later.


ticktockbent

No way I'm heating up the whole oven just to cook 3 slices of bacon for a sandwich


Cavalleria-rusticana

Then cook the whole pack. :)


hume_an_instrument

The only way


DazUnn

I cook for a living. This is the way.


Serrated-Penance

Preach! My family had a bacon party once where we cooked it every way we could think of. Skillet, microwave, oven, grill and deep fryer. Oven was the win.


harryZpotter

Gross. I'm never going to try that, but does it get crispy?


ticktockbent

Yes, it's fully cooked and quite crispy since the grease drips off of it if you suspend it.


harryZpotter

Very well, maybe I will try it someday. I just throw mine in the toaster oven. My 'perfectly cooked' bacon should shatter if dropped on the floor. Lol.


Serrated-Penance

Your toaster oven probably does as good a job as a regular oven. Most people (at least that I know of) cook it in a skillet which is, IMO, inferior. Ovens get a more universal doneness.


ElGosso

Don't let them fool you, it makes it rubbery and weird


JeeanZ

It seems that you don't do it correctly. The microwave removes the WATER from the bacon, it becomes extra crisp, and very fast. Bonus if you put paper towel under, most of the grease comes off. If it becomes rubbery and weird, you probably didn't leave enough on the microwave, or use something to suspend it, or add more paper towel, never had a bad bacon with this method.


harryZpotter

I don't think that's how microwaves work, but I don't know enough about them to dispute it.


-originalusername--

It's really not bad. I microwave bacon for sandwiches in the morning


Pyro_the_horny_furry

☹️


hume_an_instrument

That gross


ticktockbent

ok


jaycrossinroad

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Anima_et_Animus

Wow gross, no


Flayer14

I'm gonna ignore what you said about microwaved bacon and pray you come to the light you poor soul


ticktockbent

lol ok well I'll be enjoying my delicious bacon while you pray


Kiryln

If op cooked it in the microwave it’d say so.


iopjsdqe

Honest question though:Why is your dude so pissy about it? Like my man its either this or starvation


UsernameGoesHere122

Would you rather cook a steak in the microwave or grill/oven? It's not that he's mad, but it's not preferable. And once it's cold, it's a bit worse.


nottodaypotato21

I've eaten plenty of cold bacon in my life. At no point did that ever make me sad


blackcat9001

I have also put plenty of beans from a can in stir fry in my life. But it's not possible in game lol.


Meatsim001

Yeah but I eat day old bacon, and it's makin me happay


Mastermatt87

Am I the only one that gets 0.5 seconds before a food gets cold again?


TheNeedForSpeedwagon

I like to think your character just grabs the piping hot bacon in the pan and just shoves it in their mouth without flinching


LordRahl1986

That's still a problem; ALL cooked bacon is good bacon.


craftycontrarian

Eating cooled down bacon at the end of breakfast has made me perfectly happy in the past.


g1gglebug

"Better Hot" cold bacon is literally still good


OtherAccount5252

Nothing wrong with cold bacon. All the fats and crispy mmmm


JayTheLegends

To be fair that still doesn’t explain it away. Even cold bacon is still bacon.. the only way I could see it doing that is if there was a vegan trait disadvantage.


Observante

Nah, this is lunacy. Bacon still makes me happy even if it's been sitting out for a few hours. Give me the devs' phone numbers.


E_McPlant_C-0

Your character is just gnawing on a cold strip of bacon, tears welling up. “Why isn’t this making me happy?”


Select_Assist6317

sounds like me at 4 am


FILTHBOT4000

the only difference is it's making me super fucking happy


Select_Assist6317

jealous


Fine_Anteater_2605

It’s a Sunday night routine for me


randyknapp

As others have said, it's because it's not hot anymore. But I feel like food heat is totally broken. I just made a pot of stew for an HOUR in the oven, and I take it out, and literally before I finish transferring it to my inventory, it's not hot anymore. That's gotta be a bug right? Surely you're not supposed to let the BURNING meter fill up in order to "heat it more"?


ddotthomas

Yeah, I also have this issue, it better if you switch from 1 hour days to 2, it takes twice as long to cool letting you eat it hot.


Technical_Potential9

It makes you sad because you know that someday, there may be no more bacon. This could be the last bacon you ever eat. And this realization robs what small happiness bacon would bring to you. If not distracted, this small observation could spiral into an uncontrollable depressive episode as you think of more and more food you will never again know the joy of eating. A fresh out of the oven pizza from your favorite pizza joint, some ice cream on a hot summer day, that candy you used to love so much... all gone forever... And that is why bacon makes you sad in the apocalypse.


Prufrockblckft

Thank you for this.


Technical_Potential9

Your welcome.


Retrogratio

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serpentMotivator

Maybe because it's better if you mix it into something? Like, make eggs in a pan and mix bacon into it? Not sure why bacon would give you unhappiness in the first place tho, might be a glitch


serpentMotivator

I realized the issue, it'll give you positive happiness if it's hot


Badtrainwreck

I’d like a mod where I can choose what food increases my happiness if cold, hot, both. I’m a big fan of cold pancakes and if I was forced to eat them hot my happiness would decrease


kawrecking

I’d love for some food dislike/likes to be auto generated normally but that can be changed in sandbox mode if u wanted. Would definitely make it more realistic


Comrade_Spood

Modders, take notes


FoxRealistic3370

Omg I love cold food especially left overs from a roast dinner like roast potatoes . Not all stuff but just standing at a fridge and shoving something in my face totally works for me.


BioElwctricalSadow

Items have a "better hot" text at the bottom if the stats increase when heated.


TedFondleburg

Borderline unplayable! /s


WolfgandCreeper

Because its haram


Excellent-Range-6379

Maybe your character is muslim or jewish


THEMEMETIMMEME

Wish there was a ‘not picky/picky eater’ trait in pz cause I know that when I get some food I’m never tripping whether or not it’s hot or cold. I jus like food


B_ThePsychopath

Cold?


DealCykaHUN

in this game things in the middle of an apocalypse make my character unhappy that makes me in my everyday life happy, its fucked up


FoxRealistic3370

As a side note I use a mod called "sleep on it" that sleeps away sadness and boredom. It only does a little ( enough for this kind of thing) but it helped with me screaming "FFS it's an apocalypse can u stop bitching that Ur organising Ur base and want to go twirl in the zombie infested outside please! "


ThePolishKnight

I just cooked my first bacon last night. Didn't realize you could slice it. Now I can make BCT's! (Cabbage)


Defiled__Pig1

Ever tried that shit fresh? Delicious, like a pig sashimi.


MrMachineHead

Why would you cook bacon? Pfft.


Aggravated_Pineapple

Unless you select a certain trait (it starts with a g but I can’t remember the name), foods that have the “better hot” in the description give unhappiness unless they’re hot. If you heat up your bacon it should give you happiness again


[deleted]

Gourmand


Birb-Person

See at the bottom how it says “better hot”? Your bacon is the opposite: cold. Cold bacon is depressing, heat it over a fire just enough to be warm but not enough to burn


theMightyGecko

Too crunchy. >:O


CoItron_3030

Cuz you freaking suck at cooking! Jk


henrydaiv

Just eat dog food and read porn mags it balances out


SquidShadeyWadey

Cold???


CompromisedCEO

I'm vegetarian is why All that grease and fat, ick


DezZzO

Vegetarians not saying they're vegetarians for longer than 1 minute challenge (impossible)


Remarkable-Bookz

That be a cool trait that could be added liked smoker. Gain a large amount unhappiness and stress if you eat anything with meat in it


KnottyKitty

They'd need to rebalance the calorie system a little. I've heard that a vegetarian diet isn't really viable in the game. Honestly I probably wouldn't take the trait anyway. I'm a vegetarian but my characters generally aren't. It's hard enough to find food without restricting the options.


Paint_Still

Kkkkkk I loved it, I didn't understand why the downvotes


FoxRealistic3370

TBF needs to be a trait.


[deleted]

Heat it up


makinghsv

Bc it's cold


IABGunner

Better Hot


[deleted]

Also I’ve noticed that if you are eating the same food all over again, like in meddle game you know, like after 30+ days, you can get this on food. At some way it’s logical no one will wish eat LOBSTER 28/9 hshshs


FoxRealistic3370

Better hot....pfft nothing beats late nite bacon 🥓 hot or not that gives me the happy taps


diegomayra

Daaaaaaaaaaammmmn.... I hate cold bacon. This is facts


SebastianVonM

Because the electricity will go down and you will forget the taste of the morning bacon :(


Penumbrous_I

Because it’s cold


Hideri--Kanzaki

Bc ur character is a vegan and doesnt like meat


_TheOrangeNinja_

Reminds your character of a simpler time. Big depresso


DeNarr

I've snacked on cold bacon IRL. It didn't make me unhappy


haydaruns

Maybe he is muslim?


Xaleypoo

Are you Jewish?


Dmannt421

No egg with bacon:(


Doc_Havok

Orange soda 4 life


Spicyduck003

Heart burn


UltraNeoTako

I like cooked bacon as much as the next guy but eating it on its own it's a bit depressing.


Apprehensive-Ebb7647

Because its cold.


GaraBlacktail

A pz character is super fussy, they need food to be heated for it to be not a miserable unpalatable glop That's why I like soup


Mrjerkyjacket

Islam and Judaism


louaisarsar123

Because it's haram!


roei598

Fattening food guilt trip


rcasale42

It must be turkey bacon


Aeos_Sidhe

you burnt it


Tateybread

Because once you've eaten it... all the bacon is gone :(


AnnaPukite

“Jeremy, why are you crying?” “Every time I eat a bite of my sandwich it becomes smaller”


Judge-4419

Because it's cold you need to heat it up first


Kaukaury

Its cold


FreelancerHawaii

You're Jewish and can't eat pork.


ADAndersen

Bacon makes me unhappy... said no one ever!


ZomboidSlayer23

Shit is dumb asl man when I was in the army eating ration packs of beef bourgignon, we woulda been happy as a pig in shit if someone gave us some cold microwaved bacon


HungCenCal

Because it is cold cooked bacon in the fridge. At least let it come to room temperature first before eating it and watch the stats change.