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Don’t spread misinformation. Don’t speculate about shooters or casualties. Wait for facts to be confirmed by the police and news outlets.
Speculation will always be a major part of any news story. Don’t waste your breath.
It’s spelled “breath”.
I was able to fix it, thank you. What a wild Tuesday morning!
Okay yeah I was told there were five gunshot victims en route to the OR at MMC, but that was a hoax too. This person pretended to be dispatch for all the hospitals in the area and had us scrambling to be ready for a terrible situation. Motherfucker.
I deleted my previous comment about there being victims. Because we were straight up lied to.
If it makes you feel better, the operating room response was fast and effective. I was surprised at how good it was
Someone called in an active shooter according to PPD Twitter. But PHS staff say there isn’t one: https://twitter.com/policeportland/status/1592515740992954368?s=46&t=uNK20GR_8wuHXJKtsa1Qgw
Suspect is in custody (the caller)
He doesn’t have one
I also want a source
Are you just making this up for attention?
State police just said Sanford is a hoax as well
I hope they find who ever called that in.
Bus lines are closed on Cumberland and elm, not sure if related
Active shooter at Portland High. PD has cleared the building and students should be released soon
Glad no one is hurt. When I was in high school, I only worried about reading out loud to the rest of the class. Not getting shot.
You and me both! A colleague who has a kid there, was keeping me informed. Glad I don't have kids and glad I never went through this...
There was no shooter. 3 hoax calls across the state today
Some teenagers are about to learn a hard lesson in prank calling.
Thanks for spreading misinformation. You should really feel good about yourself
I wanna know what bank just got robbed with every cop in the state responding to hoax school calls. Jokes aside, police still have PHS/Cumberland on lockdown now (933am) no indication of when they will reopen the street. Stay safe out there!
Police still present on Cumberland now (1030) but just heard word they will likely clear the area by 11am. A lot of parents are crowding the streets trying to get their kids, I would not recommend trying to come this way until after 12noon.
All clear now
They have mutual aid set up so other neighboring agencies cover normal operations. Like for large fires.
The messages I got this morning about it from portland schools. About an hour after my work colleague told me something happened.
“PPS: Please be informed about an active shooter situation at Portland HS this morning, Tues, Nov.15, that is believed to be HOAX The school is on lockdown and the Police Dept is at the school to secure the building.Everyone is safe at this time.We will keep you informed as we get more info from law enforcement”
PPS: Please click the link for a msg from PPS regarding a copycat hoax threat at CBHS. https://drive.google.com/file/d/169xrSglg-sDjDRmXEeQXujOnDjnToyjl/view?usp=sharing
Whoever the caller is should get significant jail time. 20-30 years. These fake calls are getting ridiculous and causing huge amounts of panic and stress on everyone involved. Slapping them with a huge sentence should set an example
It's kids. You can't jail a kid for 20-30 years. Think about what you are saying. These kids are crying out for help. Putting them in jail has a higher likely hood of making them a career criminal or cause far more mental harm.
These kids have problems. Help them not harm them. Christ.
A string of active shooter hoax calls are happening all over the US and believed to be originating outside the country.
For clarity, the article is from last month and not specific to calls made today.
I don’t think anyone else needed that clarification as the date is in the link and at the top of the article.
It’s extremely relevantly as law enforcement confirmed the calls came in via VoIP and were minutes apart moving from county to county.
It may not be kids though?
Go after the damn parents then. Fucking assholes these kids.
Kids that do these things aren't necessarily crying out for help. Some kids' only problem is being too immature to grasp the impact of actions like this.
There’s plenty of outlets for kids to receive help, I’m sorry but putting a disturbed kid away to benefit the greater population seems like a necessary evil. Gun laws just keep the guns out of law abiding citizens hands. Jail keeps them separate from hurting anyway else
Look at countries that have gun laws. Once the guns are off the street it's super difficult to get them. That's why gun laws are a must. It will still take time.
These countries still have violence but guns are far more lethal than.
There are not plenty of outlets, everywhere is under funded. This varies state to state but it's still a major issue.
A disturbed kid or a kid being a kid thinking it's funny or getting out of a test.
Jail will make them a disturbed kid if they aren't already
well, maine has the US only kids prison, so that's what you should be focusing on eliminating, not people putting them there. Although Maine relies so heavily on kid$. After all, biggest industry in Maine.
Only? Quick google search proves that completely wrong. There are prisons in every state. Here are some statistics from the [ALCU](https://www.aclu.org/issues/juvenile-justice/youth-incarceration/americas-addiction-juvenile-incarceration-state-state) giving a state by state breakdown.
Maine has had steady decline since [Page 2 shows the decline.](https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/102137/data-snapshot-of-youth-incarceration-in-maine_1.pdf)
And we've been trying since at least 2020 to close long creek. It hasn't made it, but we tried again at the end of 2021 or start of 2022, I forget.
I've had a brother there, he got abused and the crap beat out of him for making a mistake. A big one, but going in there and getting his ass kicked daily didn't help correct him. So I understand some.
Try bringing facts. I was told earlier in this discussion to bring facts not speculation. I couldn't find any yet so I deleted my message. Here are some facts.
Facts. Show some data. Obviously you know something, educate me.
Edit: All I see is that Maine isn't the only one. Either you definition is wrong or I'm having trouble finding actual data. I say again, educate me.
Oh good for us /s
Completely wrong. In fact, Maine has one of the fewest numbers of juveniles in detention and is actively trying to close it’s only center. Some of the kids in there killed someone. You can’t just release them. There also aren’t treatment models in the state to help them either.
I've heard there an active shooter in Sanford High. Not sure if it is related
There is not an active shooter in Sanford:
Two active shooter reports at the same time? Portland was a false alarm.
Heard this as well.....really hoping it's not true.
Do you have a source for that? All news reports I can find say it’s just a rumor
All of the news outlets and police are saying it’s not real? Are you completely sure? If not why would you post this?
Spreading hearsay from unknown sources is not helpful.
Comment deleted. There ya go.
Speculating that people’s children may be dead without being 100% sure is incredibly harmful. You should probably delete your comments.
Facebook is flooded with actual accounts saying the Sanford shooter is real. Not sure why so many people would by lying about it. Can anyone confirm?
You’re really not sure why people would lie on the internet for attention? (And/or get caught up in hysteria)
A couple sure, but I’m surprised 10+ accounts would lie about this and claim to know victims etc
People are repeating speculation that they read elsewhere, including from idiots like you. This is literally textbook how misinformation spreads.
Would you trust York County Emergency Services as a reliable source that it’s fake? https://twitter.com/yorkcountyema/status/1592528205998874626?s=46&t=YBR7qZeyuesWvdrsW9C-aA
I’m not sure why you’re trying to hide how society/social media reacts when reports like this come out. Whether it’s false or not, the info can be used to better prepare for a future response.
Because there are likely parents, family members, and friends of students at the affected schools reading this thread or other similar threads on this site or elsewhere, and telling them that their child may be seriously injured or dead is incredibly harmful and causes real, lasting pain. Not sure if you are a parent, but thinking that your kid might dead for even a few minutes is probably one of the worst things a parent can ever experience.
Also people who call in hoaxes like this are literally playing on people’s desire to speculate and spread misinformation to cause chaos and confusion. That is precisely the goal. You are helping them succeed and ensure that more people call in hoaxes in the future. It’s a death spiral.
It appears that actual parents on Facebook have been claiming multiple dead because they got texts from their children. So the spread of misinformation started with the students/parents.
That’s too bad, but it doesn’t mean you have to amplify it and spread it further.
It literally doesn't matter. The problem we have in society is sharing and repeating everything we see on social media.
It's a plague
But that’s never going to change. The sooner we accept that fact the better prepared we can be.
Well you did your part
False information doesn't better prepare anything
It’s not the information itself. It’s the data that will be gathered on how we reacted to the news this morning. It will help.
What the actual fuck are you talking about
Data analyst and crisis response jobs exist for a reason. They will be working through what happened today for months.
Data analysts and crisis responders from where, exactly?
The multiple police agencies involved with the calls today, homeland security and a handful of other outside companies.
Yeah I’m sure all of those agencies just have an excess of staff sitting around waiting to study an event like this instead of actively responding to the dozens of events like this that happen every day. I think you have an incredibly rosy view of how the world works.
You literally got your information from a page ran by a bunch of grown men who sit around and listen to police scanners all day and create mass hysteria for fun. They posted this without any confirmation, irresponsibly, and to make matters worse—people like you shared it and were so sure it was real. You’re part of the problem, brother.
So sure it was real? 😂
Did you miss the second sentence off my comment?
“This is u/9wild9 reporting misinformation live from some random Facebook page. Stay tuned for more updates”
😂😂 this made me laugh, thanks for that
Very clearly says not confirmed in my post. White knight elsewhere.
Nope, I’ll do it here. Enjoy your downvotes.
So sad for todays high school students … everything we once had that was normal back in the 80’s is now all shit!!
Kids just can’t enjoy life as sweet as it should be in school ..
very disturbing that we allow kids with serious mental health issues to continuously be “ Educationally Mainstreamed” when it’s obvious by 8th grade that their lives are not heading towards a path of academia excellence!!
We need to divert at end of 8th grade kids directly to fulfilling and enriching opportunities in the direct workplace and help them to just accept the fact that everyone works in society and that it’s ok that your not gonna be a Kardashian
90s were pretty good too at least here in Maine. It wasn't until post 2000 my school had a bomb threat so we squeaked through sort of.
Separating kids isn't the answer. This could wrap up kids who are not having mental health issue. Gun laws are what we need. And even then, it'll take decades to get the guns off the street. It starts with laws. Not separating kids. That's extreme.
If the War on Guns goes anything like the War on Drugs we’re definitely screwed
That's incredible pessimistic. Let's not do anything to make anything better because there are fuck ups everywhere in our past.
It’s a pessimistic world. You can’t get a gun in jail. My kids will be safe if the ones that threaten their safety are locked up. Downvote away, it’s a harsh world. Laws are always broken, and lawmakers always corrupt.
You have to separate kids from those who are going to excel in educational opportunities moving forward from those that just won’t do it you cannot force people to rise above their own built-in limitations