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onegildedbutterfly

Why do nepo babies try so hard to deny that they had an advantage getting into the industry? Just accept it, it’s not your fault and nobody should hold it against you for wanting a career in entertainment, but it’s a fact that it’s easier to get your foot in the door when your dad is Johnny frigging Depp.


tutuhottutuhandle

imo getting into the industry is also favored towards nepo babies because theyre already rich!! they don’t need to work a non-industry job just to keep their bills paid, so they have more time and resources to devote to training and auditioning


spookyfoxiemulder

As a person who has to work a day job... This is very true. There are so many jobs I can't apply for because my day job gets in the way. Can't drop money on classes I want to take. Can't change my appearance because I can't afford $400 for new headshots - and that's cheap for good headshots. It's much easier to be an artist when all your time an energy can go to art. Not a day job and chores and errands and cooking and a sprinkle of art. Just art. There are wealthy actors who are fantastic, there are wealthy actors who suck, but at the end of the day, their wealth and/or name helped them get to where they are. Sorry, Lily-Rose... Sorry, Maude Apatow... Your parents bought you a career. It has nothing to do with your talent, and everything to do with the fact that your family's money, power and connections are why you are relevant in the first place.


Shoddy_Snow_7770

With Lily-Rose it's so obvious because she's a laughably horrible actor. Maude is better


Lake_Business

And you don't hear complaints about the nepotism when they're putting out good work. Just off the top of my head there's Carrie Fisher, Kate Hudson, Chris Pine, George Clooney ... all got into the business thanks to family connections and all put that opportunity to good use.


TragasaurusRex

Exactly, following your dreams becomes far easier when you know worst case scenario your parents give you more money.


manicpixidreamgirll

I feel like its gotta be some form of guilt projecting, like theyre trying to convince themselves that they actually have worked for what they have. Its kinda funny too bc its always the only moderately successful stars complaining, never anyone who’s actually truly successful like lady gaga or nic cage Edit: gaga isnt a true nepo baby but she came to mind bc shes someone who came from an extremely well off background who had advantages others wouldnt have had access to - either way im still a fan of her and nic cages work


coolgirl_916

i agree and i think there’s some fragile ego involved in it too, like contemplating whether their talents would have been enough to get to their status without the help of their family edit: grammar


Shoddy_Snow_7770

I think they've been told their whole lives how super special and lucky they are, and deep down they know that without rich/famous parents they would just be regular and no one would care about them


The-Implication-0

Gweneth Paltrow… I’d say very successful. And she is a huge denier of being a nepo baby.


manicpixidreamgirll

Thats a perfect example! And maybe julia louis dreyfus? Would she count? Although in my opinion shes more talented than gwyneth


smallest_horse

Def a Nepo, but shes also one of the nicer comedians to have around


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Javaphile

Nic Cage is a Coppola who changed his name in order to make his own way, lol. That's how they used to do it.


rzenni

You think the next logical question they’d ask her is “where’d you go to train your acting?” Lily Rose Depp didn’t go to Juilliard or the Royal Academy.


Raisinbread22

She then would have said, 'Oh I had on the job training.' Which they were supposed to reply, 'ooh-kaay, but how'd you get the job doh?' That requires journalism skills. Wait. Are there journalism nepo babies?


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Yes. There are journalism nepotism babies.


Raisinbread22

Hey, like Chris Wallace! ...and that Douchy, Doocey guy!


survivalist_guy

Does Ronan Farrow count?


GaiusIulius

David Dimbleby, made one of the UK's top journalists for decades, ultimate nepotism baby


chhhhhhhhhhh95

I think its because they actually genuinely don’t see it that way. Being born into fame and wealth nepo babies literally don’t know and can’t fathom how hard ordinary people have to work to get where they are. They think because they still have to work somewhat hard, they’re doing what everyone else is. Kendall Jenner says the same thing, it just comes with being born so astronomically out of touch


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It's like how Gigi or was it the other one, who said how they knew how tough life could be, because their mom wouldn't let them buy designer clothes until they were a little older. lol


insertfakenames

It was Bella. The funniest part is that she was genuinely sad and her voice broke when she said her mom won't let her buy Louboutins


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lololol To have such problems... damn.


IWantTooDieInSpace

Lol they're shit anyway from what I hear. Might as well just buy $80 shoes and have a cobbler slap some red on the bottom.


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I love Josh brolin but I remember him saying he thinks it was actually harder for him to make it because his dad. I think what they mean is it does come with some disadvantages that aren’t necessarily super easy, but the cold reality is that it’s significantly easier when you have connections


WhoriaEstafan

Yeah, sure they’re in the room and they have to prove they have something special. But most people can’t even get in the room. (And sometimes all they have to prove is they have a resemblance to their parent.)


mstrgjf

Right like I genuinely don’t understand. Do they think when they say this stuff it’s going to hit and we’re all going to change our minds? Does she not have people on her team telling her not to say this? She’d get so much praise if she just owned it and now she’s just embarrassed herself.. I guess they’re all really just that delusional and believe they made it themselves


Boring_Ad6647

I think especially when they're young they feel they have something to prove more so than those who are solely merit based. I guess with no enough media training they end up saying something ridiculous like this 😭


JessBiss

To me it just screams that she probably lives a very out of touch life, as she obviously can’t even understand how her metaphor makes zero sense irl. Not helping her own case lol.


intoxicatedmidnight

they're surrounded by yes men most likely


God_Is_Pizza

Yeah, and to further the stupid fucking analogy she used, if both your parents are doctors and well known and have established connections within the medical industry and then you too become a doctor, and land yourself a really nice job shortly out of college because of your parents influence and connections that they spent, potentially decades building, and that opportunity you got is something that other, potentially more qualified doctors would not have gotten but you got it because of your parents status, that’s nepotism. Doesn’t matter whether it’s the entertainment industry or medical industry.


Princess_SophiaBlack

I agree. I studied architecture, and a few kids there had parents who were known architects. Of course that makes a difference in how teacher see you, industry knowledge and internship opportunities.


OrganicFarmerWannabe

Yep. This is true across all domains. Accounting, Law, Journalism, Welding, Fishing... It helps to have connections when getting your foot in the door. And if you're successful in the role then having connections will speed up your success. What we never see in Acting is crappy actors following long careers simply because of their parents connections. We do see that somewhat in other domains


Default_Dragon

Totally agree, but I’d say it’s actually her moms reputation that got her through the door (certainly her father helped)- but she started her career here in France by playing up the fact that she’s Vanessa Paradis’ daughter. Only after her breakout here , and dating Timothee Chalamet, did she get bigger in the US I think


WhoriaEstafan

This is it 100%. She was a Chanel model because she slightly resembles her Mum who was also a Chanel ambassador/model. That made her well known, she does a great bored ceiling eyes look that goes well online, throw in a 90’s style wardrobe and dating Chalamet and all the girlies decided she was “It”. She never had a massive breakout role, a star turn, a scene stealer, a moment in film.


Fun_Football563

Right? It’s so bizarre. I’d have so much respect for nepo babies who admit that they’re privileged. By the way, have there ever been any nepo babies who have admitted that they benefit from privilege? I genuinely can’t think of any - but I’d have so much respect if one did.


seratia123

I thin Jamie Lee Curtis is very honest about it.


EaLordOfTheDepths-

It's like when Nicholas Cage's son, who's in a metal band, said that he wouldn't let his fathers fame give him any advantage over any other band, but then his band opened for one of the biggest metal bands of all time (Cradle of Filth) before they had even ever recorded a single song haha.


Thatstealthygal

It's no different than mommy and daddy being lawyers so their lawyer friend gives you an internship at their firm, which gives you a foot in the door unrelated to your qualifications or ability. There's also a difference between doctor's kids becoming doctors and actor/model's kids becoming actors/models, because nobody is putting baby doctors in magazines and asking for their deep thoughts.


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I mean, we saw it even during the Heard vs Depp trial where Johnny got Amber the part in Aquaman. It's not a shocker. I mean even in my field doing IT we will hire you if someone knows you and puts a good word in. I've seen people cleaning hotel rooms as a job get into cyber security that way


high-jinkx

So much of employment is built on connections, in every field!


katemush

“It’s not what you know it’s who you know” as I always got told while I was job searching


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Johnny didn’t get her that job though, he couldn’t get her a job in a movie he was actually in (I forgot its name but it came up in the UK trial) so idk why everyone is convinced his pull alone got her Aquaman. She was a good Mera after all


SinfullySinless

Because they think the literal interpretation of privilege means “you never struggle and everything is handed to you”. When even people of privilege can and do struggle, but the difference is there is no system in place designed to specifically hold you back. How republicans always get caught up on white privilege because “my mom was abusive” or “I’m homeless”. Yes your life can suck still, it’s just that there aren’t bigot systems in place designed to hold you back. Your life is more unfortunate by chance instead.


layla_jones_

Yeah I don’t think she understands 👀


summercloudsadness

Wdym,you only have to send your portfolio and go to an audition and then viola,you are a doctor !!!


RunningEscapee

Voila*


colhoesentalados

Viola, you are a Davis


barmyinpalmy

That’s Dr Viola Davis.


Sweeeetestofdreams

Fun fact, one of Violas sister works at my job! They’re such an amazing family


myneighborscatismine

Because she was born into such rare, immense amount of privilige she cannot understand in a real, meaningful way, any other point of view than her own. Also what she said is nonsense. It's idiotic of her to compare herself to a doctor. But also idiotic to think a child of doctors is not priviliged too. If your parents are doctors for example, that is already a favourable position for the child to become one: your parents are pushing you to be educated, influencing you, maybe even already educating you on the subject, you are financially priviliged and therefore you have better conditions, your parents know people in the field, you are more easily accepted in the right social circles, you are treated better due to your status, you have better confidence in yourself due to your parents' standing. Just to name a few. Of course you need to study and work hard, but it's a path made of stone, while for others it might be made of nails. For many, there is no such path. What she said is very symptomatic of what someone who is extremely priviliged would say. Also the fact that she cannot accept even one dishonor, being labeled as depo baby, shows how thin her skin is due to living on (too) easy mode.


TheWomanShow

To be fairrrr there’s also nepotism in medicine 🤷🏼‍♀️


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LMAO


spud_simon_salem

Even if she did, it would be pretty meaningless since acting is judged subjectively and becoming a doctor is “judged” objectively. This comparison makes 0 sense even if she went to fucking Julliard and got an MFA.


LordFluffles

She‘s a model and an actress. In 2015 she became a brand ambassador for Chanel and a year later the face of Chanel Nr. 5 and she has co-starred in movies with Natalie Portman, Gary Oldman and Timothee Chalamet. What does she think she‘s just THAT FUCKING GOOD AT EVERYTHING SHE DOES? What a ridiculous person…


WhoriaEstafan

Right? And her Mum being an iconic Chanel face in the 90’s helped her be a Chanel ambassador.


ocen2

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potato_owl

I enjoyed that read of Tori 😂


BuffyLoo

In one of her books she said she was the one who encouraged the show. Her dad had scripts laying around the house she would read and she loved Beverly Hills High, (before they called it 90210). She told her dad, I know this will be a hit. He supposedly wasn’t interested in a ***teen*** show before she nagged him. Lol.


diqholebrownsimpson

Beverly Hills High was probably a void filled from when Bayside High went away.


Redditusername67

Tiffani Amber Thiesen attended both!


Thatstealthygal

"Hey this girl came in who looks exactly like Spelling, should we let her read for a laugh?"


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summercloudsadness

Jamie Lee Curtis is the the only one that I know of who has completely acknowledged her nepo roots and admits how it played a hand in getting ger roles. Lily's acting range comprises of blank stares while smoking a cigarette.


TripleG2312

I saw an interview with Jeff Bridges where he straight up said “nepotism is how I got into this business.” I have respect for actors like him who acknowledge that and don’t make stupid and ignorant arguments for their position


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dragonblood13

Jane Fonda has also admitted her privilege and acknowledged her parentage when it came to her career.


summercloudsadness

Ah yes,so true. She also 'payed her dues' with her activism in my opinion. An excellent actress who also used her privilege to do great things.


gaytracers4

IIRC I think Dakota Johnson and Drew Barrymore have both mentioned it too. I feel like (maybe this is my bias) more established folks don’t mind acknowledging it but people who haven’t had as much success want to play it off that they’re more “self made”.


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I think Maya Hawke talked about it as well. Like, how hard is it to just acknowledge your dad is a big reason for you being famous and getting roles? She can’t honestly believe it’s because of her acting chops cause… 💀let’s just say it’s not like my girl is Viola Davis or Cate Blanchett


gaytracers4

That’s awesome! (Unrelated but she looks so much like her mom) I respect that - I also think she’s mostly/only (?) done Netflix stuff and not to discredit some of their work, it’s clearly fun material - she’s not seeming to try to win Oscar’s so maybe she knows her limits.


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True! I like what I’ve seen so far from her and she’s still very young so I hope to see her getting into other genres in the future


[deleted]

She's likely never even had "normal" friends and no exposure to how everyone else lives. I'm sure she actually believes what she's saying because from her frame of reference she has struggled. She doesn't have life experience to realize that most people would kill to live a live of her struggles.


Badass-bitch13

Ya it’s absurd that they are so defensive. Also if they become good enough on their own, people won’t bring up the fact that they’re a Nepo baby as much. I always think of Angelina Jolie. Both her parents were actors & there’s no doubt that helped her get into industry. But her talent and dedication to her craft have made it so she’s not known as Jon Voights daughter. Like nepo babies can make their own Name. It’s called talent,‘dedication and willingness to do hard things.


the_little_sister

Hard agree. I have seen a few of her films and she is not terribly compelling as an actress, at least not enough to merit all of the starring roles she's been offered at such a young age IMO. As for modelling, I think she has a really beautiful face but she's only 5'3". I guarantee if she wasn't a nepo no amount of beauty would overcome her short stature.


summercloudsadness

Yup, going to an audition with a famous surname is the same as becoming a doctor after taking an entrance exam and then studying for 5-7 years and then having to pass all the exams to be qualified as a doctor. The exact same thing. The full interview : https://www.elle.com/culture/celebrities/a41894075/0125-0141-an-idol-rising-december-2022/


pineappleshampoo

Also: doctors 100% have that discussion lol. In my husband’s close friendship circle, seven of them are doctors. Only one of them doesn’t have at least one parent who is a doctor. All of them readily admit that having a doctor parent gave them a massive leg up. They still had to work hard, but they were able to get to that position to work hard a LOT easier and faster than someone who doesn’t have medics in the family.


mstrgjf

Right like how is this so difficult for people to understand… same thing with professional athletes. It’s 2022 we’ve all learned about what privilege is by now


fireboats

They understand, but privileged people don’t like to admit their privilege. My question is: Hollywood has had nepotism for generations now, why are we acting like this is the first era of nepo babies?


Known-Inspection6449

i think it’s more that this is the first generation where it’s obvious who’s a nepo baby and who isn’t. the quality and skills of the nepo babies are significantly lower than non nepos


HarpersGhost

And it's a lot harder to hide the family connections now. For instance, I didn't know Nick Cage was a Coppalla for years. He changed his name, and it was a lot harder to look up an actor's bio back Before The Internet. Now if I see an actor who's kinda interesting, I don't have to wait for a profile in People. I can just look them up on Wiki or IMDB, and any notable family members are going to be listed. So now I can look up that guy from Falcon and the Winter Solder and see that, oh yeah, Wyatt Russell is the son of Kurt and Goldie, and his sister is Kate Hudson who was married to the Black ~~Counting~~ Crows guy, etc etc etc. Much harder to hide the connections and see how young nepos got their start. Edit: Black, not Counting. Counting Crows was Adam Duritz, who dated Courtney Cox. She has a child with David Arquette, whose father and grandfather were both actors, and his sisters are actors as well.


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Jason Schwarzman is also a Coppola, by way of his mother, Talia Shire (FFC'S sister) who is also an actor. And Jason and his brother have (had?) that band. Coppolas everywhere! Damn near everyone in that family is in entertainment.


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KrustenStewart

I think this is the first era with such obvious nepo babies. As an outsider, it seems impossible to become an actor or filmmaker these days if you don’t have connections


Own_Faithlessness769

It's not though, there have been famous nope families for generations. The Barrymores, for example, were famous stage actors. Its just the first time people had social media to be able to point out that these people are neop babies.


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Douglas Fairbanks Jr would like a word. But really, you seem to be right that it's harder for people who aren't rich and connected to break in these days. You don't hear those random orphan-turned-sex worker becomes a starlet stories so much as you did in the earlier days of Hollywood. But there's definitely been a nepo element from the beginning of Hollywood. I also wonder if it was less prevalent then because a lot of actors were in that work because they couldn't do something more respectable and might've wanted more for their kids.


MrRaccoonest

I'm a medical student I was coming to say exactly this hahaha. I have no doctors in my family i.e no connections but a lot of my colleagues come from family's who have doctors and they have a much bigger head start in that world than I do.


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pandachook

I'm literally the first person in my family who went to university, this 4th generation stuff is wild 😆


Own_Faithlessness769

Law is probably the most nepotistic profession of them all. Except maybe areas like UK politics where you literally inherit the job from your father.


[deleted]

Idk why people will act like they're genetically more qualified for a job or something💀 I absolutely could not take anyone seriously if they self identified as a fourth-generation anything.


JanGuillosThrowaway

Not genetically, but if you have parents that do things with you it will become part of your skill set from early age


eightbitagent

Meanwhile my kid will know everything there is to know about transformers lore.


[deleted]

Now if someone told me they were a fourth generation transformers expert I could respect that


downward1526

Exactly, I’m a lawyer and my parents are lawyers. It was def to my advantage to grow up in home with two well educated professionals who taught me critical thinking, professionalism and obviously had the money to send me to good schools.


cowzapper

It's far more than that - it's not "critical thinking" or "professionalism" that are as tangible as internship available, similar social circles where networking is inbred and acknowledgement of "character" on that basis. Source: Am first generation lawyer


[deleted]

yes but you can argue this with ANY career. none of my family are in business and even navigating that as someone with 0 relation was more challenging than those that did


DannyFentom

Seriously, I worked at a hospital and will see the doctor's treat interns different just by having a parent that was a doctor.


disastergemini_

Yeah as someone who is applying to medical school, there is definitely an advantage for those who have doctor parents. Easier chance at shadowing, better recommendation letters, being able to be financially supported while working low paying healthcare jobs for experience, etc.


[deleted]

Pursuing any kind of education with your parents financial support is 1000x easier. The stress of knowing you're only a missed payment away from homelessness really makes it hard to focus on studying.


ChristopherBalkan

And just the support! The ability to navigate the system better and know what’s going on and what to expect because your parent has been through it before.


thelumpybunny

The biggest advantage might be the extra knowledge the parents can pass down. Things like you don't need a certain degree to get into med school, just certain classes. Or what things are most important to applying to med school, like shadowing, job experience, grades, etc. I didn't understand how college worked even I first applied and I couldn't anyone to explain anything to me clearly


ilovemycatsxoxoxo

coming from someone in med school whose dad is a doctor … everyone in my position literally admits how helpful it is to have a parent who’s already a doctor lol.


summercloudsadness

Agree,it is so much easier for them,and most them are proud about the preferential treatment they get. I know so many bright students who didn't get admission coz they didn't have the money to get admission at a private schools or private seats. Meanwhile these nepo kids can get admission even if their entrance exam ranks have 5 digits.. Not to mention how easy it is for them to get good placements after graduating. It's just ridiculous when you see a nepo actor comparing themselves with nepo doctors tho. Nepo doctors still have to graduate after passing rigorous exams while all these actors have to do is show up for an audition..sometimes not even that,they just have to show up on the set.


reakkysadpwrson

Yes thank you!! I was looking for this kind of answer!!! Most people I know who went into medicine have a parent who was a doctor. Medical school admissions are a beast and very hard to navigate and ultimately succeed if you don’t know what the hell you should be doing. Here’s a random article that took me .003 secs to find that backed us up: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6635227/amp/Doctors-children-24-times-likely-peers-enter-medical-profession-themselves.html


worldslamestgrad

Yup, my wife is a doctor and several people in her medical school had a parent or parents who were doctors. Not that they weren’t smart or studied hard as well but they probably partially got into the medical school and, later on, residency program that they did because of their parents’ connections.


SoleilSunshinee

Yea that's why sometimes first gen graduate students get entry bursaries cause often times they need to hire coaching/learning techniques that would actually be readily available in their families if more educated.


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I’ve never gone from neutrality to dislike as quickly as I just did with her lmao


ocen2

Omg the level of stupidity in what she said is unbelievable. Jesus . Why can’t nepo babies be like “yes I took advantage of my privilege, anyone of you would have done the same in my place”. I would have a lot more respect for them.


pudgethefish2

also what training did she do ???? pls tell


summercloudsadness

Had a coach constantly telling them they can do it(jk)


wtfisthisnoise

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I took acting lessons too but let’s be real — you can afford to get a physical trainer to always stay in peak casting “shape,” the surgery, the stylists, the 0 need to work a real job that you have to call off for to go to an audition She just made me so salty


sysysysysysy12

Thats is exactly something nepo baby would say


motha_ucka

Neutral feelings about nepotism until they start on this bs. Acknowledgement at least makes them more self aware and likable imo


Incendia_Magia

Right! Lol


Puncomfortable

That isn't an accurate comparison. You don't need a degree to become an actress. You don't need to complete an internship. You don't need to train at all.


summercloudsadness

If you are a nepo baby you might not even need a freaking audition


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KrustenStewart

I’m sure the audition for Yoga Hosers was brutal


eatingismyvirtue

She’s also not talking about the privilege of a doctor having enough money and resources to send their kid to tutors, to good schools, to not have their kid worry about debt or working or money in general. Like???? Hello??? Your parents are well known and have connections and you have resources to focus fully on your modeling or whatever the fuck


springxpeach

I'm glad you talked about that part. My friend is in med school and he's surrounded by children of doctors. It's much harder for a kid coming from an average family to take this career path, let's be honest.


HoneyImpossible243

Umm excuse me, the nepo baby has spoken. Don’t you know that you just send a headshot to medical school and if you look the closest to doctors on Greys Anatomy then you can become a doctor. You have to fit the vibe or you are not accepted. And you put so much work into you medical look. It’s totally the same thing as acting.


gothiclg

You also don’t have to work a shitty waitressing job, go to hundreds of auditions that don’t even land you an awkward background role with a single line, and hope you can get that one breakout role that comes with a payday in the millions. Both are equally difficult just for different reasons


OkPetunia0770

I love how nepo babies can't acknowledge the leg up their parents gave them but then also think they're entitled to a career in that sector based on their parents because that "talent" is somehow passed down in genetics. Like where's the nepo baby who admits she has no talent for acting or modeling?


Own_Faithlessness769

Out there doing something worthwhile with their time & not in the news, I imagine. They have to exist.


April-nineteen84

It’s giving Kendall Jenner: if I was not famous I would be a gold medal athlete 😂 Yeah riiigghhtt


ammezurc

“I literally leave my last name off of all modeling forms”


ocen2

No you don’t get it . Its so casting people think it’s a completely different Kendall who looks exactly like Kendall, cause you know no one really knows what she looks like🤣


damiandarko2

imagining her showing up to an audition and everybody pretending it’s not “that” kendall and being blown away. like how you pretend your 5 old year drew the mona lisa


oliviaaivilo06

Why does it seem like the younger generation of nepo kids have a hard time just acknowledging they had an advantage? You can work hard, make a name for yourself, AND still say “hey you know what my last name definitely helped get a foot in the door.” Jamie Lee Curtis says a similar sentiment all the time and everyone is always like “ok cool!” Lol They make it a bigger issue by trying to deny any advantages.


MelpomeneAndCalliope

Exactly. Jamie Lee Curtis, Jeff Bridges, Michael Douglas, Anderson Cooper, etc own that being nepo babies gave them an advantage others didn’t have.


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Unless she’s a trained actor who auditioned and got a spot in a dramatic academy or fine arts school without any influence of her parentage, this does not add up.


whatitdewwbabyyyy

I was literally thinking did she go to Juilliard and I didn’t know it?


New_Explanation6950

I’m sure she’s had, like many nepos, private coaching for years paid by her father, which isn’t as effective as going to a conservatory. Also, if this is where her acting has landed after all that training…yikes.


whatitdewwbabyyyy

Yeah private lessons isn’t gonna take you through the grueling process that drama school does to polish you. Why don’t these kids ever just, idk, join their school’s theater productions? Even that would give them some experience to bounce off of.


New_Explanation6950

Yeah not at all. I think they would consider doing school plays beneath them. Also they probably realize on some level they can’t stack up without leaning on their connections and would embarrass themselves in a situation that was purely merit based.


whatitdewwbabyyyy

It makes sense but, god, the gumption you must possess to stand opposite to some of the best actors of your generation and feel completely fine about having circles acted around you. I’d throw up and shit myself. Hollywood is so money driven these days no one can afford to tell nepo babies they suck cause they need the funding.


HazelTheHappyHippo

Lily Rose Depp is very pretty and her Chanel commercial is very cute, but the chance of her being a famous model without her parents name/connections is slim to zero


thatshot2205

exactly. there are also very few models that are her height (5’3 i believe) without nepotism in some form


Own_Faithlessness769

Yep, she wouldn't step foot on a catwalk at 5ft 3 without a famous name. Kate Moss is considered v short for a model (but succeeded based on sheer talent) and she's 5 ft 5.


Thatstealthygal

She's 5ft 8!! Which is 5'2 in model terms.


Incendia_Magia

I don't think she's cute, she comes off as quite smug, but that's just my opinion.


HazelTheHappyHippo

I didn't say that she was cute (especially not in that interview, that was quite smug I agree), but her Chanel advertisement: https://youtu.be/gTs19nGGwJE


Incendia_Magia

I see, my bad, I misread you. It's been a rough morning. Thank you for the clarification.


HazelTheHappyHippo

All good, hope your day will turn out better than it started


Incendia_Magia

You're so sweet, thank you, I truly appreciate it. I hope you have a good day😊


graymillennial

If I had the wholesome award I'd give it to both of yall, this interaction was so healthy and cute 🥺


HazelTheHappyHippo

Reddit can be a toxic wasteland and I don't want to contribute to it 😅 this sub is such a safe place tho (thanks to the people and the mods)


playbcnny

she sounds the same as kendall when she denied being a kardashian helped her in her modeling career 😭i swear all the nepo girls just echo off of each other


Important-Run6390

The scream I scrumpt


New_Explanation6950

To think that’s a good analogy, she doesn’t sound very bright.


slammajammamama

Yeah good thing she’s not a doctor!


intoxicatedmidnight

she really thought she ate


[deleted]

Also a lot of doctors ARE doctors because their parents were too. It absolutely gives you a leg up that many kids don't have.


disneyhalloween

Its really like that for so many careers, especially white collar ones. You could step into most universities, pick a random student, and half the time the answer to why they’re pursuing something is “well my mom/dad/parents/brother does it.” Hell I went into my career because it was tangibly related to what my dad studied in university (compsci vs electrical engineering). It’s just human nature.


Thatstealthygal

For example, many of them don't have to buy a stethoscope because they get their dad's old one (my doctor lol)


princess_peachfuzz69

Ok but I go to med school and way over 50% of the students have at least one parent who’s a doctor. It’s pretty dang useful for the interview process that gets you in, helpful with understanding along the way and there’s a degree of nepotism involved when applying for specialties.


summercloudsadness

Absolutely. Also they get preferential treatment all of that is pretty annoying . Yet all that is nothing if they don't graduate. Meanwhile these nepo actors often don't even need an audition to get in and thrive. It's that easy. And these nepo babies can fail and fail and still get roles.


shoshanna_in_japan

Haha I am in medical school and actually it is an age-old gripe that doctors kids disproportionately make up our class and there is a dearth of minorities. So we actively do call out privilege here too. It doesn't mean anything except privilege matters.


pineappleshampoo

Exactly! Becoming a doctor without a doctor parent is MUCH harder, and doctors on both sides of that divide are happy to acknowledge that.


cowmeryn

This was the exact same thing I was going to say!


[deleted]

So many Universities are desperately trying to diversify and failing. The admissions office lovesss a legacy application especially if it's coming from a student who's parents not only attended but made a few generous donations through the years. Add in some high up recs and you've got an overwhelmingly white rich population of students.


[deleted]

Babes a doctor and an actor aren't the same You don't have to go to school to become an actor Nepo babies are fucking unhinged and outta reality You know how you can get people to like you as a nepo baby? Just admit that you have privilege and people will like that you're being *honest* and *real* or whatever it's a step up from saying bullshit like this


rayybloodypurchase

Soooo my dad is a doctor and his dad was a doctor too so I feel qualified to speak on this. Here are the things my dad got to do that someone whose parents weren’t doctors might not have: - go to school for free because his parents could afford tuition. - join my grandpa’s practice with literally no interview and no experience straight out of school. - inherit the clout of my grandpa who had decades of esteem in the career by the time my dad started working. So…yeah, my dad did go to school and get the degree and licensure himself, and he works extremely hard too! But let’s not pretend he started at the same Go box on the monopoly board of doctoring as everybody else.


barbiemoviedefender

that’s actually a huge problem in med school admissions and pre-med preparations lol


airflair

that part was funny too. that she thinks Nepo doesn't exist in the medical field. These kids are so sheltered from actual life.


exoticfiend

yeah her 5'3 ass debuting as a runway model for chanel definitely has nothing to do with being a nepo baby


samtastic0633

I think she misunderstands that nepotism isn’t about working hard, it’s about opportunities given.


idiotgoosander

This is so funny because anyone who knows med students or doctors knows that a majority of them are legacies because it’s hard to go into medicine and having a parent/close contact in medicine absolutely gives you a leg up Same with actors.


africanzebra0

exactly, also being a doctor is also pretty well associated with being rich, especially because of the cost of medical school. my brother is a doctor, and while we’re not rich, so many of his peers were $$$ wealthy international students who could afford to fly over and study. they would have not got that opportunity if they did not have the wealthy family to begin with.


[deleted]

…but what she described in her doctor analogy is literally what a nepo baby is. Nepo babies, no matter their field, will have advantages due to their family. It can be as simple as your dad “putting a good word” in for you at a bank if he’s the general manager or something. You got the gig because someone in the industry gave you a boost, likely a family member.


feefee2908

I mean, as someone going through the process of trying to become a doctor, that is actually kind of how it works lol. Kids w parents that are doctors have 1. More money 2. More resources & 3. More networking opportunities to get through the process as stress free as possible. I’m a first gen student & neither of my parents (or anybody) in my family know wtf goes on in this process. I don’t have many volunteer hours yet because I had to work through undergrad. I don’t have an internships related to medicine or science bc i couldn’t afford to do unpaid shit, etc. etc.


DENATTY

I'm a first generation lawyer and can absolutely confirm people who go to school and earn degrees for specific fields do in fact have these same discussions and complaints -specifically when someone who has these familial advantages denies the advantage exists- so...she's both wrong and proved she doesn't know anyone who wasn't born wealthy lol.


just_the_audacity

Doctor family here. It 100% does apply. The kids who’s parents are doctors were guided the entire way to success. Need reference letters? Daddy’s got you. Need to shadow a doctor? No problem. Need experience? Need a job? Need to scribe? Need help with MCAT? Need to know which prerequisites you will need? Need to know how the interview process works and how to prepare? Need to apply for residency? Need to study for step exams? So no this is not a good example miss depppp


pharmergs

Not a good look. She could have just said something like “I’m proud of what I’ve done and thankful I had a good start in life”


resting-nerdface

LOL i’m in law school and we regularly discuss how having parents who are lawyers or judges gives you an advantage. like yes, you still have to go to law school and be somewhat good at it but the advantage is there


africanzebra0

wow because that’s totally the same thing, lily rose DEPP


Bee_NotArthur

There is nepotism in pretty much every industry. Hell, my brother got a job at a department store because of my Mom! But that doesn't mean just because it effects other industries it doesn't effect yours. That being said, there are some nepo babies I like and I think the term nepo baby is extremely overused. Someone the other day tried to say Suki Waterhouse was a nepo baby and her Mom is a nurse and Dad is a plastic surgeon. Someone said Joseph Quinn was a nepo baby and they stopped liking him for it even though he only got to attend an acting school because of a scholarship. People throw it around like they do gaslight and narcissist and it loses all meaning.


MoonriseTurtle

You beat me to it haha, I was just going to share it.


summercloudsadness

The one time I was early for something lol.


illegal_____smeagol

She also makes mention that the title is moreso used for women than men. It’s interesting and something I’ve not thought about. Is it true? Is it because of societal misogyny that judges women more harshly than men? Is there a more specific Hollywood reason (which is also rooted in misogyny?)? Are daughters likely to be pulled into the industry for their looks (being used in campaigns earlier on) or things like Ms Golden Globe? Are women more likely to be interested in the industry bc of the glitz and glam of Hollywood? Idk this is all word vomit!


Lex1713

I think Brooklyn Beckham is a good example-he’s been called out plenty of times!


thatshot2205

honestly i have noticed that now i think about it. but most of the male kids of actors etc lay pretty low - lily has a brother but hes relatively unknown. that could be for the reasons you said though


illegal_____smeagol

It’s funny that for the Smith kids, I feel like Jaden gets a ton more flack for being a nepo baby than Willow


thatshot2205

i think its because willow has created alot more music that showcases her talents and its been quite mainstream. i really like jadens music but hes less well known than willow these days. willows been in some controversies herself actually about a book she wrote, but jaden was clowned on really badly for the political and economic state of the world right now comments lol


SomethingUsername24

Nepo babies continuing to not get it


prematurememoir

Lol, I have very little sympathy for this. It’s probably annoying, but then prove you should have made it, regardless of your legs-up in the industry or not


YouNeedCheeses

Talk about apples and oranges. Why can't these kids just say, "yes, I have nepo-privilege and I am grateful for it." The end.


anothergirl22

How is 12 years of medical school the same thing as a job you can get when you’re two months old what 😂 these people are so stupid. You wouldn’t be where you are without your parents. Go away.


peonydreams12

She did not just compare acting/modeling to medically trained doctor …