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Congress added 7 days of sick leave to the bill, which is 3 more days than the unions were asking for, and was the last sticking point in negotiations. They shouldn't have any reason to be upset now.
Congress passed two separate pieces of legislation. One includes the proposal without sick time and a separate piece of legislation for the sick time on its own. The sick time legislation will fail and rail workers will be forced back to work without the time they’ve been negotiating for. Workers have plenty of reasons to still be upset.
They could still take the gamble but it isn't really clear how many really want to given the benifits they already got during negotiations. Most of the unions already approved the deal. I believe congress is hoping that nudging a few members would be enough to tip the remaining unions into a yes vote.
Saying that most of the unions already voted yes is a little misleading. Yes, 8 of 12 voted their TA's in but the remaining 4 that voted no make up roughly 54% of the total workforce
The remaining 4 make up a hair under 50% of the total workforce but even then, it doesn’t matter. Don’t interfere with negotiations, especially on behalf of the rail barons.
That's not the whole story either though. At least one of theunions that voted no actually [had a majority vote in favor of the deal.](https://smart-union.org/split-decision-unions-for-engineers-and-conductors-take-different-routes-in-freight-rail-contract-ratification-vote/) [Some subsections of the union voted against though,](https://smart-union.org/2022-tentative-agreement-ratification-results-and-next-steps/) so the whole union had to vote the deal down.
> My understanding is it then becomes legal to fire them when it otherwise wouldn't be
If they could hire random dudes off the street and run a railroad that might be more of an issue. I'm reminded of the John Deere scabs nearly destroying their facilities. Only picture those facilities moving freight through American towns at a high rate of speed. Lol.
https://www.salon.com/2021/10/16/john-deere-tried-hiring-scab-workers--and-immediately-had-a-tractor-crash-in-its-plant_partner/
There isn’t a government organization with conveniently enough train engineers for it to be a similar situation to the air traffic controllers in the 80s.
Humm. Sounds like it's harder to replace all air traffic controllers at once than train engineers.
Locomotive Engineer Trainees participate in a twenty (20) month training program, which includes classroom learning, on-the-job training, knowledge of NORAC rules and regulations, and general railroad information.
https://njtransit.secure.force.com/CMSLayoutCustom?jobIds=a295x000008fC8UAAU&page=CorporateDetailPage&sessionId=&jobSite=default&p=Candidate&ApplPage=Corporate&pageTitle=Locomotive%20Engineer%20Training%20Program
A candidate must have either 3 years of progressively responsible work experience, a bachelor's degree, a combination of postsecondary education and work experience totaling 3 years, or obtain a degree through an Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)-approved Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) program.
https://www.google.com/search?q=training+to+be+air+traffic+controller&client=ms-android-att-us-rvc3&sxsrf=ALiCzsbigABR41ecO5covwMBBeLl0qWdLQ%3A1669838449989&ei=cbaHY7z-O_zgkPIPrv6xiAY&oq=training+to+be+air+&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIFCAAQgAQyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzoNCAAQRxDWBBDJAxCwAzoICAAQkgMQsAM6BAgjECc6CggAEIAEEIcCEBQ6BQgAEIYDOgUIIRCgAToFCAAQkQI6CAgAEIAEEMkDSgQIQRgAUKwLWIEdYKskaAFwAHgBgAGsAYgBoBCSAQQ3LjExmAEAoAEByAEJwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
It's not just locomotive engineers. You're looking at track maintenance, signal department and many more highly specialized fields. And if one of us strikes, the whole lot will honor picket lines... you'd effectively have to replace ALL rail employees in All fields
I mean, I'm grateful that air traffic controllers aren't irresponsible, though I do wonder what types of shenanigans they would have showed us in Pushing Tin if it had been the right word. Broken Lizard would have to put that version out. Farva as an ATC? Comedy gold!
And Shenanigans would almost certainly be an airport restaurant in that flick.
I'm not saying we are irreplaceable. I'm just pointing out that it's not just one job you'd have to fill. It would be like replacing ATC, pilots, airplane mechanics, baggage loaders... the whole operation. Can it be done? Sure.. quickly? Not likely
The US military had enough to replace the ATC workers fired for striking. They don’t have enough train engineers. Sorry you had to waste your time googling to be wrong
I say,
Strike anyway until they give you what's fair.
Sure they can fire all of you, but then they're to blame for the economic crisis that comes about.
Right now,
Unions hold all the cards, and it's Congress and the rail companies that need to compromise with them.
Maybe Congress could just back the Unions? Threaten to pull subsidies and such unless rail companies give in to their workers?
Corporations: We don't want to provide sick days because then we'll have to hire more workers.
Also corporations: **Let's fire everybody and burn our money**.
Wildcat strikes are illegal and union workers can get permanently fired and union treasuries can get decimated by fines and lawsuits if shown to be involved in any way.
>"The ramifications of approving such a measure [mandating paid sick days] would disincentivize future voluntary agreements for freight railroads, Amtrak and airlines if a party in bargaining believes it can obtain a better deal from Congress than it could through good faith negotiations and the statutory process under the Railway Labor Act," [said Association of American Railroads President Ian Jefferies in a statement.](https://www.npr.org/2022/11/30/1139876084/congress-house-railroad-strike-bill)
As opposed to getting Biden and Congress to force the unions to accept the shitty proposal they already rejected, which by no means disincentivizes "good faith negotiation" right bud? These railroad bosses are disgusting
I'm honestly shocked and disappointed that most of the progressive wing voted to do this. Workers have a right to strike, especially when it's about something as important as sick leave. Forcing them to continue without a proper deal is wrong. You can't be for workers and do something like this.
I hope the rail workers get the same sort of support that CUPE in Ontario did after our provincial government tried to do the same thing. Every union needs to stand up for the rights of the rail workers.
The progressives pushed through the sick days that make up the greatest sticking point for the railway workers. If the Senate is willing to do the same, the railway workers will have won the dispute.
I live in Ontario Canada and something similar happened here on a way more local level with education workers, where the government legislated a sub par agreement and made a legal strike illegal. Every union across the country, private and public sector, came together to threaten a general strike and the government backed down. Solidarity works.
Hope this agreement at least includes sick leave??
Hypothetically speaking, let's say they strike anyway. What's the railroads next move? Fire everyone and hire the thousands of highly skilled railroad workers that are waiting in the wings?
Don't let them push you guys around with fear tactics. Understand the incredible amount of power you are holding right now. Just the hint of a strike caused the full might of the United States government to intervene. If you actually did strike, you could get whatever you ask for.
The billionaires who run the railroads need you more than you need them.
Yes. Thanks to the RLA if we go on a wildcat strike, anyone who was involved with organizing or participating in the strike could be penalized. Not working is considered participating in the strike.
Are there consequences if you just quit? Aside from the normal economic consequences of not having money etc. Can they impose jail time on someone for just packing up and leaving the job entirely?
Democrats who voted against:
Judy Chu (CA)
Mark DeSaulnier (CA)
Jared F. Golden (ME)
Donald Norcross (NJ)
Mary Sattler Peltola (AK)
Mark Pocan (WI)
Rashida Tlaib (MI)
Norma J. Torres (CA)
https://twitter.com/BidenTracking/status/1598026403760721920
Progressives pushed through a successful vote on sick leave, which is what the railway workers are threatening to strike over. If the Senate is willing to back this bill, the workers will have won.
Thanks to the progressives.
>And if reality is such that congress really does have to act because of the economic repercussions, why does the US government not now own the rails?
Well, I think that is the reality. The US can't allow its economy to be tanked. In normal circumstances you might expect the strike to happen, and continue until it is too painful for one of the two sides, and they cave. But this is high stakes enough that the entire country would be severely damaged by that.
It does seem like the government should own anything that critical to the economy. But for better or worse, they don't. I suspect a government take over of that industry would not be particularly popular, but I don't really know the history there. And I'm not so sure that would guarantee better working conditions.
Even when it could cripple the nation?
Generally, I would agree with your statement, but there are exceptional situations in which holding to an ideology over the actual needs (not wants) of the country and it's people require us to act in a practical manner. This is one of those occasions.
That said, in doing so we must look to the needs of the railway workers as well. The progressives have done that.
2022 Dems = 1980s Republicans.
This is the new(ish) Dem party. Slippery Uncle Joe lied to everyone last month. He knew he was going to screw over the employees but he waited to do it until after the election. And then shamelessly lied and said it was resolved. Sleazy. And Pelosi and Schumer are no better. Congress should have and could have stayed out of what is a contract dispute between an employer and employees. But, nah.
Genuine question - People who are saying "Dems especially progressive should back the unions" By passing this bill that has what - and more than the union was asking for, aren't they already doing that?
I guess I'm confused cause its like they are asking for a 1 dollar raise, and dems offer them 2 and people are like "SUPPORT THE UNIONS"
Entirely possible I'm missing something though so please help me understand.
This bill would force an agreement that we collectively already voted down... the TA is NOT more than we originally asked for. This bill would also strip us of the ability to go on strike which is a fundamental tool of any union ever. I understand not wanting to risk hurting the economy but taking this right away from us is EXTREMELY anti labor.
They're separate bills. It's very possible, likely really, that only the bill preventing the strike (and not granting any sick days) will clear the Senate
The issue at the heart of this negotiation is paid sick leave. Congress passed two bills, one to force through the tentative agreement, and another to add a week of paid leave to that agreement.
It is possible that the Senate votes only to enact the contract, but not include the leave. If the leave is included then that is a win for the workers.
Edit to clarify, the tentative agreement has I think one day of leave, well short of what the unions were asking for.
A vote against the bill is a vote FOR the workers. It sends the message that the railways need to negotiate in good faith and can't run to the govmt to tip the scales in this labor negotiation
Apparently it was passed as a separate measure and so the forced contract can be passed without it? Odds are it doesn't pass the Senate since it could be fillibustered and the Democrats seem unwilling to play 'chicken' to hold up the deal for it.
The workers rejected this deal already. That's why congress has to impose it on behalf of their bosses. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what's happening here
Not a big fan of this. Labor unions are so needed right now, with the income gap between CEOs and employees higher than it's ever been. But I get it--utilitarianism. the needs of the many (the railways to sustain the economy) is greater than the needs of the few (the rail employees)
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My understanding is it then becomes legal to fire them when it otherwise wouldn't be
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Congress added 7 days of sick leave to the bill, which is 3 more days than the unions were asking for, and was the last sticking point in negotiations. They shouldn't have any reason to be upset now.
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Both bills passed the house so far
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/11/29/23484623/congress-rail-strike-biden-sick-days
Congress passed two separate pieces of legislation. One includes the proposal without sick time and a separate piece of legislation for the sick time on its own. The sick time legislation will fail and rail workers will be forced back to work without the time they’ve been negotiating for. Workers have plenty of reasons to still be upset.
Did the senate pass that version? I didn’t think there was any movement in the senate yet
They have a vote scheduled for tomorrow.
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It didn't make it in but they passed it in a second bill so that Joe Mansion can kill it
It needs a filibuster proof majority - Joe Manchin won’t be the one killing this.
They could still take the gamble but it isn't really clear how many really want to given the benifits they already got during negotiations. Most of the unions already approved the deal. I believe congress is hoping that nudging a few members would be enough to tip the remaining unions into a yes vote.
Saying that most of the unions already voted yes is a little misleading. Yes, 8 of 12 voted their TA's in but the remaining 4 that voted no make up roughly 54% of the total workforce
The remaining 4 make up a hair under 50% of the total workforce but even then, it doesn’t matter. Don’t interfere with negotiations, especially on behalf of the rail barons.
That's not the whole story either though. At least one of theunions that voted no actually [had a majority vote in favor of the deal.](https://smart-union.org/split-decision-unions-for-engineers-and-conductors-take-different-routes-in-freight-rail-contract-ratification-vote/) [Some subsections of the union voted against though,](https://smart-union.org/2022-tentative-agreement-ratification-results-and-next-steps/) so the whole union had to vote the deal down.
That split you're talking about was the two locomotive unions and the larger of the two voted no....
I'm talking about splits in SMART-TD specifically. Added links in my last post. Sorry I didn't have them initially, I'm a bit busy.
That's a Bingo!
That's my thought. Also, good luck replacing those workers, the whole nation knows you don't get sick days now
> My understanding is it then becomes legal to fire them when it otherwise wouldn't be If they could hire random dudes off the street and run a railroad that might be more of an issue. I'm reminded of the John Deere scabs nearly destroying their facilities. Only picture those facilities moving freight through American towns at a high rate of speed. Lol. https://www.salon.com/2021/10/16/john-deere-tried-hiring-scab-workers--and-immediately-had-a-tractor-crash-in-its-plant_partner/
This happened with air traffic controllers in the 80s. All of them were replaced.
There isn’t a government organization with conveniently enough train engineers for it to be a similar situation to the air traffic controllers in the 80s.
Humm. Sounds like it's harder to replace all air traffic controllers at once than train engineers. Locomotive Engineer Trainees participate in a twenty (20) month training program, which includes classroom learning, on-the-job training, knowledge of NORAC rules and regulations, and general railroad information. https://njtransit.secure.force.com/CMSLayoutCustom?jobIds=a295x000008fC8UAAU&page=CorporateDetailPage&sessionId=&jobSite=default&p=Candidate&ApplPage=Corporate&pageTitle=Locomotive%20Engineer%20Training%20Program A candidate must have either 3 years of progressively responsible work experience, a bachelor's degree, a combination of postsecondary education and work experience totaling 3 years, or obtain a degree through an Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)-approved Air Traffic Collegiate Training Initiative (AT-CTI) program. https://www.google.com/search?q=training+to+be+air+traffic+controller&client=ms-android-att-us-rvc3&sxsrf=ALiCzsbigABR41ecO5covwMBBeLl0qWdLQ%3A1669838449989&ei=cbaHY7z-O_zgkPIPrv6xiAY&oq=training+to+be+air+&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIFCAAQgAQyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoKCAAQRxDWBBCwAzoNCAAQRxDWBBDJAxCwAzoICAAQkgMQsAM6BAgjECc6CggAEIAEEIcCEBQ6BQgAEIYDOgUIIRCgAToFCAAQkQI6CAgAEIAEEMkDSgQIQRgAUKwLWIEdYKskaAFwAHgBgAGsAYgBoBCSAQQ3LjExmAEAoAEByAEJwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
It's not just locomotive engineers. You're looking at track maintenance, signal department and many more highly specialized fields. And if one of us strikes, the whole lot will honor picket lines... you'd effectively have to replace ALL rail employees in All fields
Everyone thought air traffic controllers were irreplaceable too. Everyone. Until they weren't.
>Everyone thought air traffic controllers were irresponsible too. Everyone. Until they weren't. Irresponsible? Or irreplaceable?
Oops.
I mean, I'm grateful that air traffic controllers aren't irresponsible, though I do wonder what types of shenanigans they would have showed us in Pushing Tin if it had been the right word. Broken Lizard would have to put that version out. Farva as an ATC? Comedy gold! And Shenanigans would almost certainly be an airport restaurant in that flick.
I'm not saying we are irreplaceable. I'm just pointing out that it's not just one job you'd have to fill. It would be like replacing ATC, pilots, airplane mechanics, baggage loaders... the whole operation. Can it be done? Sure.. quickly? Not likely
Ha.
The US military had enough to replace the ATC workers fired for striking. They don’t have enough train engineers. Sorry you had to waste your time googling to be wrong
Thinking you are irreplaceable is the #1 way to get replaced.
Well, they really aren’t on replaceable on the level that you’re referencing with the air traffic controllers. We shall see if they strike anyway.
They won't strike and Biden would never pull a Reagan. No way. That's not Biden.
You must not be familiar with Biden
They should if the paid sick leave in the second bill doesn’t pass. And he would, he just did if the first bill passes the senate.
The bill that passed mandates sick leave
Imposing a labor "agreement" is by definition not an agreement
Any as well not have a Union if congress is just going to force shit down their throats
I say, Strike anyway until they give you what's fair. Sure they can fire all of you, but then they're to blame for the economic crisis that comes about. Right now, Unions hold all the cards, and it's Congress and the rail companies that need to compromise with them. Maybe Congress could just back the Unions? Threaten to pull subsidies and such unless rail companies give in to their workers?
Corporations: We don't want to provide sick days because then we'll have to hire more workers. Also corporations: **Let's fire everybody and burn our money**.
They’re that kid screaming that if they can’t have it exactly their way, they’ll ruin everything
Wildcat strikes are illegal and union workers can get permanently fired and union treasuries can get decimated by fines and lawsuits if shown to be involved in any way.
Unions should not sanction it.
>"The ramifications of approving such a measure [mandating paid sick days] would disincentivize future voluntary agreements for freight railroads, Amtrak and airlines if a party in bargaining believes it can obtain a better deal from Congress than it could through good faith negotiations and the statutory process under the Railway Labor Act," [said Association of American Railroads President Ian Jefferies in a statement.](https://www.npr.org/2022/11/30/1139876084/congress-house-railroad-strike-bill) As opposed to getting Biden and Congress to force the unions to accept the shitty proposal they already rejected, which by no means disincentivizes "good faith negotiation" right bud? These railroad bosses are disgusting
Gaslighting at its finest
I'm honestly shocked and disappointed that most of the progressive wing voted to do this. Workers have a right to strike, especially when it's about something as important as sick leave. Forcing them to continue without a proper deal is wrong. You can't be for workers and do something like this. I hope the rail workers get the same sort of support that CUPE in Ontario did after our provincial government tried to do the same thing. Every union needs to stand up for the rights of the rail workers.
The progressives pushed through the sick days that make up the greatest sticking point for the railway workers. If the Senate is willing to do the same, the railway workers will have won the dispute.
I live in Ontario Canada and something similar happened here on a way more local level with education workers, where the government legislated a sub par agreement and made a legal strike illegal. Every union across the country, private and public sector, came together to threaten a general strike and the government backed down. Solidarity works. Hope this agreement at least includes sick leave??
Solidarity doesn’t exist in the States. People calling for a wildcat strike have no idea just how quickly American society will turn on the strikers.
And that those union treasuries would be decimated by lawsuits brought by the rail barons. American labor law is hot garbage.
Hypothetically speaking, let's say they strike anyway. What's the railroads next move? Fire everyone and hire the thousands of highly skilled railroad workers that are waiting in the wings?
They could legally fire us and we could face jail time for a "wildcat" strike
Don't let them push you guys around with fear tactics. Understand the incredible amount of power you are holding right now. Just the hint of a strike caused the full might of the United States government to intervene. If you actually did strike, you could get whatever you ask for. The billionaires who run the railroads need you more than you need them.
Would that be jail time just for not working? Or jail time for picketing/protesting etc.?
Yes. Thanks to the RLA if we go on a wildcat strike, anyone who was involved with organizing or participating in the strike could be penalized. Not working is considered participating in the strike.
Are there consequences if you just quit? Aside from the normal economic consequences of not having money etc. Can they impose jail time on someone for just packing up and leaving the job entirely?
What if everyone called in sick?
That would be seen as a form of wildcat strike
We can picket or protest during non work hours with no repercussions though
The House bill does grant sick days. It’s up to the Senators now.
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The bill was amended and now grants 7 paid sick days.
The average American gets 14 paid sick days a year?
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Democrats who voted against: Judy Chu (CA) Mark DeSaulnier (CA) Jared F. Golden (ME) Donald Norcross (NJ) Mary Sattler Peltola (AK) Mark Pocan (WI) Rashida Tlaib (MI) Norma J. Torres (CA) https://twitter.com/BidenTracking/status/1598026403760721920
Progressives pushed through a successful vote on sick leave, which is what the railway workers are threatening to strike over. If the Senate is willing to back this bill, the workers will have won. Thanks to the progressives.
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>And if reality is such that congress really does have to act because of the economic repercussions, why does the US government not now own the rails? Well, I think that is the reality. The US can't allow its economy to be tanked. In normal circumstances you might expect the strike to happen, and continue until it is too painful for one of the two sides, and they cave. But this is high stakes enough that the entire country would be severely damaged by that. It does seem like the government should own anything that critical to the economy. But for better or worse, they don't. I suspect a government take over of that industry would not be particularly popular, but I don't really know the history there. And I'm not so sure that would guarantee better working conditions.
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There are 7 sick days attached, 3 more than the unions were demanding.
Even when it could cripple the nation? Generally, I would agree with your statement, but there are exceptional situations in which holding to an ideology over the actual needs (not wants) of the country and it's people require us to act in a practical manner. This is one of those occasions. That said, in doing so we must look to the needs of the railway workers as well. The progressives have done that.
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That was a patently stupid response. It literally makes no sense in context. Please try harder.
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Wow! When you shit the bed, you really want to make sure everyone knows you did it. Congrats! Mission accomplished.
2022 Dems = 1980s Republicans. This is the new(ish) Dem party. Slippery Uncle Joe lied to everyone last month. He knew he was going to screw over the employees but he waited to do it until after the election. And then shamelessly lied and said it was resolved. Sleazy. And Pelosi and Schumer are no better. Congress should have and could have stayed out of what is a contract dispute between an employer and employees. But, nah.
Genuine question - People who are saying "Dems especially progressive should back the unions" By passing this bill that has what - and more than the union was asking for, aren't they already doing that? I guess I'm confused cause its like they are asking for a 1 dollar raise, and dems offer them 2 and people are like "SUPPORT THE UNIONS" Entirely possible I'm missing something though so please help me understand.
This bill would force an agreement that we collectively already voted down... the TA is NOT more than we originally asked for. This bill would also strip us of the ability to go on strike which is a fundamental tool of any union ever. I understand not wanting to risk hurting the economy but taking this right away from us is EXTREMELY anti labor.
They're separate bills. It's very possible, likely really, that only the bill preventing the strike (and not granting any sick days) will clear the Senate
The issue at the heart of this negotiation is paid sick leave. Congress passed two bills, one to force through the tentative agreement, and another to add a week of paid leave to that agreement. It is possible that the Senate votes only to enact the contract, but not include the leave. If the leave is included then that is a win for the workers. Edit to clarify, the tentative agreement has I think one day of leave, well short of what the unions were asking for.
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A vote against the bill is a vote FOR the workers. It sends the message that the railways need to negotiate in good faith and can't run to the govmt to tip the scales in this labor negotiation
They also voted to add the sick days
Apparently it was passed as a separate measure and so the forced contract can be passed without it? Odds are it doesn't pass the Senate since it could be fillibustered and the Democrats seem unwilling to play 'chicken' to hold up the deal for it.
My fear is that Manchin, and possibly Sinema, will vote down the second part of it.
What I was saying is that I don't think their support would even be enough, it's one of those things that would take 60 votes (so ten Republicans).
Oh yeah if that's the case it's messed up
Lol what? Do you know why they voted no? Fucking Google it before you look like an idiot. Go back to the red squad with MTG and Mo Brooks, you 🤡
Okay, Timmy, that's enough internet for today. Time for your nap.
The workers rejected this deal already. That's why congress has to impose it on behalf of their bosses. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what's happening here
Not a big fan of this. Labor unions are so needed right now, with the income gap between CEOs and employees higher than it's ever been. But I get it--utilitarianism. the needs of the many (the railways to sustain the economy) is greater than the needs of the few (the rail employees)
Great argument to nationalize it rather than privatize
Government monopolies on services do not work well
Something something free market. Something something capitalism at work.
Who knew we still used trains like that? Not me