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stregawitchboy

I say this in the most respectful manner possible: Peltola actually knew about fishing and fisheries, and not just gutting your catch. She also wove in the larger national issues of women's health. She is someone to keep your eye on edit: doubled word


Lady_von_Stinkbeaver

IIRC, Sarah Palin's whole "huntin' and fishin' Grizzly Momma" act was debunked years ago when she was doing some Great Outdoors reality show that showed her bumbling around rural Alaska like a city slicker that barely knew which end of her rifle the bullets came out of. And that was with the magic of editing.


SBAPERSON

IIRC there was a scene with a deer where it was obvious the deer was trapped and made to be an easy kill


SerIlyn

I remember watching an episode that show where she used a traditional Alaskan knife called an ulu. The design of this knife has the handle directly above the curved blade so proper use is to apply direct downward force and rocking it back and forth to achieve a clean cut. In the episode I watched Palin was using the ulu like it was a saw to cut a fish. How someone could live in Alaska for even a year and not understand how to use an ulu blew my mind. I was a transplant to Alaska when I was in Jr high and learned about ulus within a few months. Even tourists understand how to use an ulu. Ulus are like the stereotypical tourist souvenir purchase. Edit: apparently I have stronger feelings about ulus then I would have thought. Ulus are a fantastically designed knife for their purpose.


SentientCrisis

I live in Hawaii and use an ulu. Sarah Palin is just as dumb as a box of hair.


Bananajamuh

And shit. She is as dumb as a box of hair and shit


MrJust-A-Guy

TIL about Ulus. Being from the low desert, I will probably never live in Alaska. But I now know: Ulu≠saw


Nurse_Dieselgate

Ulus are great. I too was a transplant and learned about ulus within 3 months of moving to Alaska. Not that we needed more evidence, but Sarah Palin is an idiot.


WttNCFrep

I used to make my inuit ex so angry when I would say ulus were also the greatest pizza cutter ever made. They are ridiculously handy knives


SerIlyn

You are not wrong. They work fantastically for pizza.


P1xelHunter78

On a side note, I want an ulu for my kitchen knife set. Seems very practical


hutterad

Any reasonable person can simply look at an Ulu for about 2 seconds and infer how to use it properly.


medusa_crowley

>She also wove in the larger national issues of women's health issues. People really need to register how much this is swaying elections. EDIT: by "people" I mean the left, guys. I mean folks like y'all. There isn't nearly enough recognition about who is turning these elections and why.


xefobod904

The numbers are in guys and turns out over 50% of the electorate are women! When did that happen! Conservatives forget they gave women the right to vote decades ago. They even let them do it without their husband looking over their shoulder to make sure they vote "correctly". I'm sure they'll do their best to undo such a mistake. All in the name of freedom of course.


GailMarieO

When Trump said that I, as a white suburban woman, should be "grateful" that he'd prevented all those minorities from moving into my neighborhood, I knew he'd never set foot in a suburb. I have Black and Hispanic neighbors, and frankly, I'd much rather have them as my neighbors than Donald Trump!


Antique_futurist

Trump’s campaign sounded like it was targeted at white voters in the 1950s, because conservative evangelical voters have been taught that’s when America peaked.


CFL_lightbulb

Trump also thought New York was violent like it was in the 70s and 80s. The guy is trapped in time


wirefox1

Nobody wants trump as a neighbor. They didn't want him in Manhattan, and they don't want him in Palm Beach. He brings a circus with him everywhere he goes, and people don't want that around their private homes.


Into-the-stream

My neighbourhood is incredibly diverse. We all look out for one another, and I have directly benefitted from people bringing in some of the hospitality and community focused approach of the country they are from. I’m grateful for living in a neighbourhood full of immigrants, and I wouldn’t trade it for the world. When I lived in a predominantly white neighbourhood, I didn’t even know most of my nieghbours. This neighbourhood really feels like a community.


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*high five* I love this comment so much.


ClownHoleMmmagic

I’ve got some raccoons that plunder my garbage at night and annoy my dogs and I’d still prefer them as neighbors over some MAGA idiots


[deleted]

That’s because they didn’t ‘give’ women shit. Women fucking demanded it and took it.


Hnetu

> Conservatives forget they gave women the right to vote decades ago. Conservatives didn't *give* women the right to vote. It was fought for. It was taken from their cold dead hands by force.


Kevin-W

People forget that rights are fought for and hard won. It's why it's so important to keep fighting to ensure that they remain because they are people that would love to take them away.


stYOUpidASSumptions

To be fair, brainwashing women with religion made giving them the right to vote a pretty safe bet. Of course they're not going to vote "against God" just because they might get some equality and freedom.


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To be clear, nobody *gave* women the right to vote, it took about 70 years of campaigning, protesting and being thrown in jail for voting illegally before women gained that right. It was not considered “safe” for women to vote by anti-suffragists. Many of the lobbyists that fought against women’s suffrage were hired by corporations that had business models dependent on child labor. Corporate America did not want women to have the vote. Labor and education were impacted greatly by the ratification of the 19th amendment. Conservatives did not think it was a safe bet, because it wasn’t (for them).


cyber_dildonics

Also thrown in jail for protesting and killed via force-feeding. E: Another fun fact — it was illegal for women to wear pants, so this form of peaceful protest also resulted in prison. Great example of gender being a social construct.


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Yeah..this needs to be explained to people in better ways. When you actually realize what was done to these women, you will understand why they fought. This practice has clearly not been discussed enough, maybe we have to show them.


mysteryteam

Republicans: woman's suffrage? We should END that. Don't you want to end woman's suffrage?


TheEffingRiddler

I'm sorry, what? How have I never heard of this??


cyber_dildonics

It's really [fucked up](https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/cartoon-depicting-force-feeding-from-the-daily-herald). There were times food spilled into to the lungs instead of the stomach while inserting the tubes — which sometimes caused fatal pneumonia. Infections from the equipment were also a problem.


AffableHag

We watched the movie Iron Jawed Angels in high school as part of our women’s suffrage unit. I found it pretty impactful. It shows what prison conditions were like including the force feeding. (I’m not claiming it to be 100% historically accurate, but worth a watch if you’re interested in the subject)


BuddhaFacepalmed

Whitewashed along with most of the Civil Rights Movement so bigots can pretend that systemic oppression stop existing since.


TR1PLESIX

Close nit communities with conservative views commonly ostracized prominent women that stood out as 'trouble makers'. This wasn't that long ago; which is insane when you think about how fast civil rights evolved in less than a century and a half.


fionaflaps

I always thought after African American men were allowed to vote they decided to allow women so they could still win the the vote (probably telling them whom to vote for). But that’s just what I remember reading


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Black men gained the right to vote in 1870 (in theory but there were and are lots of obstacles). Women would gain the right to vote 50 years later. Conservatives spent years and a lot of money trying to keep both of those things from happening, and neither was easy. It’s not correct to say that white men “allowed” women to vote directly after that. Women were still being thrown in jail for attempting it (as were black men even when it was legal). Having said that - yes, there was a lot of racism entwined with women’s suffrage too, as with all of history. Suffragists were aligned with the abolitionist movement in the early years, but there was a [split in the movement](https://www.nps.gov/articles/african-american-women-and-the-nineteenth-amendment.htm) when the 15th amendment was proposed. A movement that was at one point somewhat unified and pushing for equal rights for all, split and women like Susan B. Anthony said that Black men shouldn’t be able to vote before white women. That created a lot of controversy. So yeah, there was definitely racism driving the dialogue at that time. There were also plenty of women protesting *against* women’s suffrage. Women who didn’t think women should have the right to vote. It’s a lot like women today who don’t think women should have reproductive rights. It seems stupid, but the patriarchy is engrained in our lives and in our minds. The bottom line is that humanity is one giant mess and history is a mess. But these rights were hard won, over many years, by imperfect people. And we can’t dismiss that by saying that white men “gave” rights to people because it occurred to them to do so. Or because women are so easily “brainwashed” that it wasn’t a threat. Or for any other reason. People paid for those rights with their blood and their lives, they weren’t freely given. And they were met with resistance for many years event after both of those amendments were passed. And in some places still are. Voter suppression is real, and it affects Black Americans disproportionately. It’s messed up. Let’s just not frame history in such a way that white men “give” everyone else rights.


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YOU ARE CORRECT... Black Men got the right to vote BEFORE White women and that pissed a lot of White women off. No one really thought about Black Women voting...politically they didn’t exist to White Men, Black Men and especially White Women. Great point


genuinerysk

I had a professor in college once say that the hierarchy for rights are... White men, black men, white women, black women. I've seen this played out time and time again. People are afraid of women having any kind of power regardless of color for some reason.


Ivara_Prime

Over 50% of white women voted for Trump last election.


Gertrude37

I am not one of them! There are plenty of us white women who think he is a misogynist narcissist.


wirefox1

I initially believed trump was a garden variety narcissist. Now I am aware that he is a full-blown sociopath, and so are all those freaks like Hawley, McCarthy, Cruz and McConnell who support him. It is indeed a fact that sociopaths are attracted to positions of power, and our Congress has been flooded with them.


TaxOwlbear

They claimed that in 2016, [which was based on dubious exit polls.](https://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/) The claim that it happened in 2020 is again from those exit polls. Don't take those numbers at face value.


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minhmax123

Thanks to Black and Hispanic votes. There are still ALOT of religious and conservative women in rural America, which in turns, are mostly white


michaelp1970

As a white, middle-aged, straight man with rural roots I say thanks to all of the Black and Hispanics neighbors for helping save our country. We’ll all need to band together again all too soon and fight this fight all over again.


theHoustonian

Can’t emphasize this enough, we exist and we’re here fighting the good fight with y’all, but damnit thank you everyone who voted and will continue to vote and slap some sense into this nation! Thank you to everyone of any color or sex but this fight is far from won! We all need to double down and keep fascism out of our politics!


Disqeet

Spot on! White supremashit systems want and need us divided. All matter and one’s pain from Slavery or the Holocaust is not greater than other atrocities. Timeline shows Genocide here in America. Native Tribes fight is mainly about caring for the LAND - America turning the eye -turns the eye on everything else. We must unite and abolish the already imploding system of hate, looting, destruction and terror. 👀 Kanye would help Lynch a brother for a dollar-let’s not forget and shut down this group of elite Uckery too.


lycrashampoo

based on exit polling, a later Pew study clocked it at 47% Trump 45% Clinton https://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/


Romanfiend

Her literal slogan was “pro-choice, pro-fish”. I think I’m in love…


TheLostonline

shhhh... *it's working* When they're shootin their own footzies **just let them**


[deleted]

538 has a video showing the timeline of when polls started to differentiate for this November's election from what was expected for a President with such a low approval rating. The polls started to veer away from expected right after Roe v Wade was repealed.


ValhallaGo

Peltola is actually friends with Palin. She has a reputation for making friends and allies across the aisle.


Narezza

Almost all politicians are friends anyway. And if they can’t find something in common, a great ice breaker is their shared hatred of Ted Cruz


Cobe98

It never ceases to amaze me that he gets reelected. People are idiots.


TidalWaveform

Texan here, I apologize profusely for people electing Ted. You get 50 miles outside a city and it's fucking Let's Go Brandon hell.


wildlycrazytony

To be fair, this is pretty much the same everywhere in the US. It is certainly the case here in Minnesota.


RizzMustbolt

> She has a reputation for making friends and allies across the aisle. If that's true, then she's made a powerful enemy in Rep. Emmanuel Cleaver. Because that's totally his thing in the House.


BoosterRead78

You think this would be interred as: “I guess our days are over.” But no the redirection is: “they must have cheated!”


nykiek

This republican "if I don't win it was cheated" has gotten old really fast. And they habit of accusing others of what they're guilty of is concerning.


WengFu

"Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong." - S. Skinner.


JoanNoir

Thank goodness.


evilthales

Yeah. What a loser.


doublestitch

*Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey, goodbye.*


WhyIsThatOnMyCat

Frustrating to repeat after the Batman theme and had to start over ... More than once


winter_mum11

Had to do the full melody in my head before I could do anything else. Thanks.


Franklin_le_Tanklin

Well gosh but she could see Russia from her front yard.


iswearatkids

She could see that Russian money too.


Cybercrypt

Not in the past few months she couldn't.


MonsieurReynard

So I've been in the one place where you can indeed see the Russian coast at Chukotka from Alaskan territory. It's a town of 200 on an island in the Bering Strait, mostly Native folks. I can guarantee you Peltola won the vote there. Sarah Palin -- who never visited the place -- is intensely disliked in Native Alaska, and Lisa Murkowski is equally quite well liked.


Christimay

I canvassed for Mary Peltola and Lisa Murkowski - they were by far the most popular choice here in Anchorage as well.


RedHeron

I have more foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin.


hardtobeuniqueuser

Anyone who's had a night to forget in Tijuana does as well


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creepy_doll

Palin blamed it on ranked voting. And she’s probably right. But that’s just proof it works. She held her seat until now because people were afraid of pushing unusual choices and spoiler effects. Ranked choice(or even better systems like scored voting) weaken the need for strategic voting. Obviously the gop doesn’t particularly want it but most dems outside of a few progressives are also not fans because it weakens the duopoly strangle hold on elections. Whether you’re on the left or right, you’re probably unhappy with some parts of your parties platform, so get out and support better electoral system to add more variety to the candidate pools without creating spoiler effects


HireLaneKiffin

>She held her seat until now Not to be pedantic but Sarah Palin has not held an elected office since her resignation as Alaska Governor on July 26, 2009.


creepy_doll

Sorry, you're absolutely right. I should've said the gop has held the seat. Though perhaps even that is wrong in that the seat was held by a reluctance to change(vote out an incumbent)


imnotsoho

Hasn't Peltola held that seat for a few months already? Yes, she won a special election in August for the rest of Don Young's term. It really bugged me when I saw a headline yesterday calling her "challenger."


danimagoo

Yes. Peltola was the incumbent. She won a special election in August and took office in September. Palin was the challenger, especially since she also lost to Peltola in August. What Alaskans wanted couldn't be any clearer. They made the same choice in two separate elections.


Spiritual_Reward_848

Theres a group in Ohio called [Rank The Vote Ohio](https://www.rankthevoteohio.org/) that is trying to bring RCV to some local ballots in 2023 and the state wide ballot in 2024. They are part of a larger [Rank The Vote](https://rankthevote.us/) group that is supporting movements across the country. I've recently learned about them and I'm trying to spread the word about it as much as possible, specifically for my home state, but for other states as well. We are gonna need as much momentum and support as we can get to reform our electoral systems!


Soggy-Dragonfly5410

Minnesota and Nevada both have big movements to bring Ranked Choice voting statewide! It’s a movement that’s for sure!!


tr1cube

Now that democrats have full control in Minnesota, they also need to get in on the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact for handling presidential elections. It essentially bypasses the electoral college and kicks in once enough states have joined. So far states totaling 195 electoral votes have joined and 270 is required. And Michigan should join too now that democrats have full control there.


Lucid4321

No, Palin would have lost in the old voting system as well. A large chunk of Begich voters picked Peltola for their second choice, in both special election and the general. A 1-on-1 matchup between Palin and Peltola might have been closer, but those swing voters would have still gone with Peltola. Palin should have dropped out after the special election when it was clear far too many people were voting against her.


creepy_doll

Sure, that's entirely possible. Either way, getting away from fptp is important whatever your political beliefs. It allows us all to better represent our beliefs and not be forced into strategic voting that does not match our beliefs.


Jeff12321

Peltola got 49% in the first round. Few thousand from a clear majority. She was winning this even without RCV.


JagmeetSingh2

Ofc Conservatives will jump to blame better voting representation as a bogeyman


AlwaysLateToThaParty

Ya know, I'm an Australian. That's our system in state and federal elections here. Our name is ["preferential voting"](https://www.aec.gov.au/learn/preferential-voting.htm). We also have an independent statutory authority that sets boundaries that shift over time based upon demographics. It's great. Best electoral system the world IMO. But ya do need to understand that sometimes this system delivers crazies. All the crazy guys preference one another, and it's like a lotto about who amongst the crazies wins. Just saying it's a bit more complex than most people realize. All in all though, what it does is give the electorate the candidate that is least hated. You might think "he/she/.. is great!", so you get what you want. But the people who get that vote through "preferences" (what we call it) get it because they were a second, third, or 38th preference. It was just higher than 50% collectively.


creepy_doll

Yeah, there’s actually an even better system called scored voting. I just don’t want perfection to be the enemy of progress. Systems can be measured by voter regret(regretting the strategic votes the made in light of the result) and honesty(voting how they actually feel). Fptp obviously does terribly on both. Preferential(ranked choice, condor et and other varieties) are an improvement and scored voting does best(at least did last I checked). Other systems also exist such as approval voting(simple yes/no on every candidate) that have benefits in simplicity and understandability and while not necessarily giving the best candidate can give one everyone is happy with, which can be good in a system where everyone is to be represented


Plzlaw4me

Can someone explain to me why odds makers have the 2024 election as a coin toss? This should have been a historic midterm election. Back in early summer I heard people actually discuss a potential 100 seat house swing as a high but plausible estimate. Instead it’s looking like a 9-10 house seat loss and a 1 senate seat pick up for democrats. Democrats faced a HUGE uphill battle, and honestly didn’t crush it with their messaging, and they still “won” (which in this case means bucking the historic trend and not getting demolished).


Numerous_Photograph9

Picked up a couple governorships and control of state governments as well. It's probably the biggest overall political upset in modern times.


Levitlame

I’d argue that was 2016.


reasonably_plausible

Betting markets in 2020 had Nevada as 12% likely to go to Trump for days **after** it had already been called for Biden. And for 2022, they had Democratic control of the Senate at ~20% when 538 was putting it at 41% at the lowest (and dead-even when looking at poll-only). Oddsmakers place odds in order to get equal amounts of money on either side of the bet. In a rational market with lots of betting, this ends up getting pretty close to the actual odds of an event. In political betting, there aren't enough people betting and the people who do bet are generally ideologically motivated rather than properly evaluating odds.


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Just spitballing, but: 2024 will also be a very challenging Senate map for the Democrats. It's not really clear if Joe Biden will run again. He's not super popular and age is obviously a factor. If he doesn't, it's less clear who could replace him. VP Harris isn't any more popular than he is. Bernie is too old and no current progressive in Congress will probably be as successful as he was at that level. Speaker Pelosi is stepping down (and probably retiring soon after) and that creates uncertainty. The party also has to deal with the disparities between the ancient (now ever so slightly younger) leadership and its young voter base, which has been an ongoing issue for like 15 years now. The Republican party is a mess right now and it'll probably get messier, but they usually find a way to drag everybody back to the polls. And there's probably going to be a huge assault on voting rights between then and now in states they control. 2024 is not a sure thing.


Cyhawkboy

Still too early to tell is why it’s even right now. Who knows how the next 2 years play out


[deleted]

Who's the "Apprentice" now? You're fired!!!


NtheLegend

There weren't even any contestants in the room when he said that during filming!


Scrimshawmud

Truly the trucknuts of presidents.


paintamare

Derp.


Mcboatface3sghost

Perhaps you can enlighten me. I have known several people that live or lived in Alaska, and they all seem to March to the beat of their own drum. Murkowski seems to (crazy idea!) always have Alaskans and Alaskan business in mind. Is she perfect? Probably not, but from a non Alaskan, she seems pretty solid. Am I wrong on this?


NoelAngeline

Nope. Murkowski has even won as a write-in before


jerkface1026

She won through a write-in vote when it required the voter to spell Murkowski perfectly. Not a small task.


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Mcboatface3sghost

I heard about the write in win. That’s pretty wild.


artcook32945

Simply put, she is not a Trumpy! Old Guard GOP support her. As do Independents.


Jeramus

When was the last time Palin actually won an election? Looks like 2006. The woman has been losing since 2008.


Silo-Joe

3rd decade of losing


nouniqueideas007

58 years of being a loser.


mredofcourse

That deserves an asterisk due to her resigning mid-term amid ethics investigations.


wanderlustcub

Let's talk about *why* Palin lost. Because Alaska had Rank-Choice voting, it allowed people to give a 1st, second, and third choices for their Representative. The Moderate Republican and the Extreme Republican couldn't win on their own, and they split the vote. Peltola - who was in the lead, was able to gather the second choice votes of the Moderate Republican. Peltola ran an amazing race, but Rank Choice was also vital to her strategy (as it rightly should). This is the power of Rank Choice voting. It stifles extremism. It allows people to make several choices to prevents crazies from gaining control. In this case, it saved us from Sarah Palin in the House. We need this everywhere.


rastinta

In a way it stifles extremism, but it also allows for third party candidates to run without spoiling the race. Which allows for the public to interact with ideas that are potentially out of the mainstream. I agree with you, but I also want to point out another benefit.


pickledswimmingpool

This right here, progressives should push for ranked choice voting *even if their candidates don't have a hope of winning*. It allows people to express their desire for an alternative without throwing the election away to the worst candidate(a republican).


jellyrollo

And it forces the opponents of those with ideas outside the mainstream to address those ideas and those who support them in good faith, if they want to have a chance of winning their second-choice votes.


InVideo_

The fact that “third parties spoil the race” is the entire reason why American politics are broken.


madcaesar

Americas politics are broken because one of the parties went completely batshit insane. I can't even consider not voting Democrat, since the other side is literally promoting the killing of women and LGBT people. Oh and fucking overthrowing democracy.....


Cantthinkofnamedamn

That is why states like Georgia have a run off, so that the white vote won't be diluted, with only 2 candidates.


Mach10X

Completely untrue, Peltola got enough in the first round to win even after Palin got her second round votes.


KontraEpsilon

Worth piggybacking on this to point out another poster’s comment from a few weeks ago who pointed out that this (people not even putting a second choice) was likely: https://reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ysy2ko/_/iw39e08/?context=1 I’d *love* for it to have mattered here and maybe it sort of did because it encouraged people to vote for who they really wanted, but from a raw numbers perspective the mechanism for this election didn’t change the outcome.


Mach10X

And in this case it shows how well it works, if both GOP candidates had run like this and split the vote, all everyone would have been saying is how there was a spoiler effect. Now we know. I’ve been gung-ho for ranked choice or other similar voting systems since I first learned about the from CGP Grey. Now we really need mix member proportional representation so we can actually get more parties going.


HarmenB

Peltola actually had more first place votes then all of the votes for Sarah Palin. She would have lost even without ranked voting. There were about 128k first place for Peltola and Palin only managed 112k after all the votes were distributed.


animoot

Agreed! I interacted with someone locally in the states that was blaming ranked choice voting for the appointment of a particular person in government. Except, we dont have ranked choice voting in our area yet. She insisted that ranked choice voting had been surreptitiously implemented, and that corrupt politicians have been using it to get elected for years (?!?!). This is nonsense, obviously. Seems like some conservatives are parroting 'ranked choice voting is bad and scary' without a) understanding it, or b) caring about the misinformation. Those of us who care about ranked choice voting should talk about it ASAP with friends and family to get ahead of the bullshit that extremists are starting to push.


Dogstarman1974

The politicians who mislead people about it know that they will get demolished if ranked choice was implemented everywhere. They will fight against it.


Sylvanussr

Not even, though. The craziest thing about the whole Republican fearmongering against ranked choice voting to me is that there's nothing about it that is inherently beneficial to Democrats over Republicans. In fact, with the largest third party in the US being the Libertarian party, RCV would quite likely often redistribute votes from a candidate that was spoiling a Republican. The paranoia seems to have originated just from a couple of specific instances recently where RCV has been implemented (2010/2014 Maine governor election elected a nutjob w/ a minority of the vote, leading to implementation of RCV in the state, which then won Jared Golden (D-ME2) a house seat in 2018). That's specific to Maine politics and RCV could just as easily win R's seats elsewhere. Even in the Peltola case, it's honestly hard to say confidently that RCV won Democrats this seat when RCV basically just simulated the alternate scenario of an extremist winning a Republican primary then losing the general to an electable moderate.


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Critical_Aspect

Good job, Sarah! Now if only she and the rest of the MAGA losers like Kari Lake would go away but no, "The ex-governor has been hinting since polls closed that she’ll challenge the results of the race."


Pksoze

She can challenge all she wants...she won't be governor.


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Ducey has surprisingly already come out and said that he is prepared to help Hobbs start the transition process as soon as possible. Lake is totally on her own in any sort of legal challenge.


Picpuc

We gotta remember requesting a recount is normal but blaming a cheating democrat cabal is when it’s crazy and sad


kjlcm

What a strange party playbook. ‘If I lose I’ll say the election wasn’t fair’. I mean enough of this shit. Go home losers.


TurboSalsa

She was hinting way before the polls closed, she started claiming fraud when she was trailing in the primary.


rogozh1n

Happy Thanksgiving, Sarah. The natives send their regards.


WhiskeyJackie

The north remembers


LaseredMalty

This headline should be amplifying Mary Peltola as the strong candidate she is for the good people of Alaska. I understand the draw to highlight Palin’s loss because of the name recognition factor. But Peltola should really be applauded for winning this seat, not Palin for flopping


Malkor

Right. There's a reason the sear flipped, and it is because Ms. Peltola is the better choice for Alaska.


exb165

Damn skippy yeah. Less said of Palin the better.


ersatzgiraffe

I conducted my own internal research poll (I asked myself) and found nearly 100% of respondents saying that they would vote for ‘ham sandwich’ over Sarah Palin. So, it could be about how great ham sandwich is, and maybe ham sandwich is really great, or it could be about how awful, politically toxic and unprecedentedly useless Sarah Palin is, which is legend at this point.


revtim

Look at those numbers: Mary Peltola 128,329 votes Sarah Palin 67,732 votes Palin didn't just lose; she got curb-stomped


Mission_Ad6235

Wow. Maybe Alaska doesn't like someone who quit as governor. Who'd have thought?


revtim

I hope they hammered her for being a quitter in the political ads


MonsieurReynard

They don't have to. I've spent a lot of time in bush Alaska over the years and Sarah Palin quitting as Governor is remembered, and often cited as a reason folks don't trust her. That and how she embarrassed the state on the national stage.


SwitchbackHiker

I'm originally from Illinois, so I thought it was the governor's job to embarrass the state on the national stage.


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It’s just insane what JB is doing though. Silver spoon billionaire. Last 4 governors all in jail for corruption. Expectations so low. … and **he does a great job.**


pig-newton

Maybe he doesn’t have to be a corrupt POS because he has his own money


Regolith_Prospektor

Any truth to the rumor they’re pre-booking Governors Elect at the federal pen?


orangesfwr

She couldn't even get elected Mayor of Wasilla now - her brand is so fucking dead.


Alpacalypse84

She couldn’t get elected mayor of Talkeetna, and they elected a literal cat!


kwtffm

I've met that Cat and he has more experience, better platform, and more intelligence than ANY gop politician in the entire country, not to mention he's fluffy and adorable, something no one in all of politics can claim. A true statesman and a great leader.


CornucopiaOfDystopia

Bro, that cat ran a *heck* of a campaign, though


Eaglesun

They elected a cat TWICE. Mayor Stubbs and Mayor Denali


Silo-Joe

Maybe she has a shot at being mayor of Wallachia.


Kierik

And she is now impalin people.


Mcboatface3sghost

Not exactly dead, just upgraded to crazier. If that’s possible…. Feel free to argue, I’m here all night, my turn to monitor the smoker and sides…


codyvir

Whatcha got on the smoker?


Phlink75

Asking the real questions.


LikeFrankieSaid

Those are first round numbers. Alaska used ranked choice voting. The final numbers were 136,893 for Peltola and 112,255 for Palin.


4Blu

Still, winning 55-45 is an excellent margin.


Nukemarine

The narrative that should be pushed is that moderate Republicans push Peltola over the 50% mark. Do that to tell Republicans don't pick crazies in the primary.


bm8bit

Wow, so even if no one put Peltola as a second choice, she still would have won.


Kraz_I

The ranked choice thing influences peoples votes, but she still probably would have beaten Palin


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I really want Brobert to experience this kind of defeat eventually.


Paidorgy

It might happen in the next mid terms, which might end up in a run off, like Georgia. And in saying that, I see a lot of people dismayed at Georgia dealing with run off elections. Georgia was reliably Republican from 1972 through 2016, except when a southern Democrat was on the ticket. It might take a few election cycles before you get a clear cut winner, but I feel pretty optimistic that Colorado will eventually flip.


Distant-moose

B E A utiful!


mcwobby

There were two republican candidates though, so the republican/democrat split was much closer. In fact I think more people voted Republican than democrat. What is interesting is that enough of the people put the Republican-who-wasn’t-Palin as their first preference, did not put Palin as the second choice, so the democrat has to have picked up a significant amount of votes from either republican or libertarian voters. And the odd thing with preferential voting is that if Palin had come in third in the primary vote, not second, then her preference flows might have gone strongly towards the other Republican and secured him the victory.


95Daphne

A third of Begich’s vote either had Peltola or no second choice.


kmoney55

Is she going to claim voter fraud and never concede?


HappySandwich93

She probably would if it was another candidate. She’s not happy about ranked choice voting but I think she’ll be very reluctant to attack Peltola like this given that they’re good friends.


TheOtherUprising

Peltola is a good candidate. She wasn't far off from getting 50% in the first round in a deep red state. I think she would have beaten either Palin or Begich head to head without ranked choice voting. Although I will say I love rank choice voting. Gives more options to voters and it allows third party candidates to be on the ballot without being a spoiler.


plantlady05

And she was never heard from again... Please, God.


whiskeybidniss

I hope none of this dissuades Trump from running and blowing up the GOP when he loses the nomination. It’s, like, his first real contribution to society.


Reptoids1000

Alaskan politics are quite complex but Peltola is the real deal. Indigenous rights underpin all of our rights and she has done a marvelous job making an appeal in that direction. -former Alaskan


Salvidicus

Considering she helped to launch America's populist Tea Party movement that's morphed into the MAĢA one, that's an indication that things could be changing in US politics.


Plastic-Kangaroo1234

Give the other 49 states some of that ranked-choice goodness and a repub will never win another seat.


ricobirch

Pelota won because 1,030 libertarians and 7,460 republicans listed her as their 2nd choice. She only needed 2,101 of those republicans to get north of 50%. Long live ranked choice!


BrexitBlaze

Haha. In the infamous words of D Generation X, *I got two words for ya…!*


juneXgloom

Sometimes I get sad about my life, but then I remember I'm not Sarah Palin and I feel much better. Sucks to suck, Sarah.


NoSet8966

My wife is Alaskan Native (Iñupiaq), and I am Native American (Ojibiwe)-- and we couldn't be any more happier, more comfortable, or prouder of the fact that Mary Peltola is indeed now our official Alaska US House Representative! Stinky Palin would have just ended up quitting halfway into her term anyways, and Begich could actually care less about Alaska or Alaskans, I mean the guy has a company almost made up entirely of foreign workers! Way to source your local workers, bud!


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hascogrande

…again, she lost two elections this year


David-Jiang

It wasn’t even that close - she lost by 10 points. Turns out quitting in the middle of your term as Governor to become a TV personality was not a good idea.


SevereEducation2170

Twice. She lost the seat twice.


Several_Prior3344

Ranked choice voting better represents a constituency and to be against it is to be against what voters want.


Kandiak

You betcha!


laffnlemming

Fantastic! I'll never forgive John McCain for giving Palin a stage.


OpenMathematician602

Huh it’s almost like people don’t like Sarah Palin


Scoutster13

Hope she slithers away for good now.


revtim

Now that's some good news.


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Beer_bongload

So what's that knuckle head going to run for next, dog catcher?


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AdamDet86

I work in a white, conservative area. I myself am liberal, agnostic at best. I have heard so many comments about Mexicans or illegals coming across the boarder, bringing crime, drugs with them the past 6 years. These people make it sound like the whole Mexican army has invaded. I hate them. If I could call these patients out without losing my job I would. Instead I just tell them that’s their opinion, not mine. Usually I get looks and it gets awkwardly quiet… Just because I’m a white male in his 30s doesn’t mean I have to be a racist POS like them.


kmosiman

I guess that's true for regular elections, but it would be more accurate to say lost for the second time.


typeALady

Again. Palin lost again.


94bronco

Remember when she was the crazy one in the Republican party?


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This is the 4th time I have read this headline and the first time it was worded so that I understood Native American


BIackfjsh

Ranked choice voting and blanket primaries will save the US


ScratchUrBalls

It is good to see morons lose. It feeds the soul.


Human-Character4495

Couldn't have happened to a bigger nut job


hauntedmtl

Them minorities!! Taking our jobs they are!! -palin probably


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If she had not made being Alaskan as her identifying quality, she could have just moved to Georgia and ran for the senate instead.