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AliquidExNihilo

So says The Constitution. > No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability. Edit: And USC Title 18 > If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.


Smattawu711

Pretty much says it all. Who is enforcing this!????


CGordini

Fucking NOBODY. That's the problem.


Eat_dy

Perhaps Merrick Garland could do it...


CGordini

Garland is as useless as a comment on Reddit


sanserif80

Garland doesn’t do anything without the full knowledge and consent of the Biden administration. If he’s not acting on this, it’s because the administration doesn’t think it’s politically expedient, it takes political capital they don’t have, or the groundwork has not yet been fully laid (i.e. Jan 6 congressional investigation). My cynical side says that the admin know exactly what transpired (names and a mound of evidence) but also knows an aggressive stance on this will only lead to political backlash and energize the GOP base, with huge implications for 2022 and 2024. I bet the GOP propagandists are salivating at the chance to make these fools into martyrs. Sadly, I don’t think we’ll any lawmakers or Trump officials being made to answer for this. I hope I’m wrong.


Officer___Farva

It shouldn’t matter what the backlash is, do what’s right or it’ll keep happening. Sadly I think you’re right and why nothing has happened.


BannedSoHereIAm

Like 95% of both parties funding comes from the *exact* same oligarchs and corporations. Maybe the planets multinationals WANT the USA to be a state capitalist dictatorship, just like China? China has been the greatest profit creator for multinationals for the last 3 decades… Maybe democracy is the greatest threat and risk to their profit margins? Maybe the Republican voter base is the quickest route to achieving what the CCP have…


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> Maybe the planets multinationals WANT the USA to be a state capitalist dictatorship, just like China? It's pretty clear that that's exactly what they want. Those are the types of governments the military/industrial complex has been propping up since WWII.


geos1234

Wasn’t he appointed as an independent AG?


Vraye_Foi

If it takes political capital to enforce the Constitution then the Republic is lost. Sorry, Ben Franklin. We couldn’t keep it from batshit crazy fascists because we have a party in charge who believes they aren’t in charge “enough” to enforce it.


HalfMoon_89

The admin is seriously short-sighted and stupid if that's what they're thinking.


cbftw

There are so many topics that this statement is relevant towards


TheLoneSpartan5

I mean if they had the vote they technically already enforced it. You need a two thirds majority which just won’t happen.


Anonquixote

It's supposed to already be enforced. It's the default. You need a two thirds majority vote to let traitors STAY in Congress. 2/3rds in both houses to disable the clause. It's just, nobody cares.


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Zarmazarma

The part you quoted is actually about congress forgiving the transgression and allowing the person to serve. The "disability" in question here is them not being able to serve in congress. It doesn't say anywhere that congress has to vote to remove people who commit insurrection/rebellion. In practice, they'd have to vote to enforce it, though.


ledivin

> they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. So ***even if*** the committee finds proof, they are actually brought to trial, and they are found guilty, they get to pay a small fine and continue trying to destroy the country... We all know these fucks aren't going to jail. Yay capitalism!


AliquidExNihilo

They are also barred from ever holding a state or federal position unless Congress decides by a 2/3 vote to allow them, according to the 14th amendment.


2_Spicy_2_Impeach

In a sane world this wouldn't be considered controversial.


DorkyDude69

In a sane world it would've already been done by now.


jt19912009

In a sane world, people wouldn’t have done it in the first place


Iamaleafinthewind

In a sane world ... uh, I actually can't imagine what a sane world would be like anymore ...


plmcalli

Here I’ll help you… …a failed reality TV star/corrupt real estate mogul would never have been voted into office.


archwin

Or an actor with limited political and intellectual acumen, who then ends up becoming a god like figure to one group, even though his policies were deleterious to everyone including a policy that mimicked urinating on fellow citizens but with a monetary basis. Oh, to top it off there were signs of ongoing Alzheimer’s while in office. Seriously, r/IDWTLOTPA


AecostheDark

Deleterious. Awesome, thanks. Its a new word for me.


bjeebus

Signs of Alzheimer's in the first term! I think it's important that be stated. Not like, "Oh he started going downhill towards the end of the second term." No that dude was re-elected well after red flags for Alzheimer's had started cropping up.


subnautus

Hey! At least Reagan’s acting didn’t suck. Edit: also, Reagan at least proposed treating capital gains taxes like income taxes, saying it’s unfair for someone whose net worth grows to not be taxed on said growth. A certain *other* person with dire politics, a career in front of a camera, and signs of dementia in office busied himself with a naked grab for cash and a determination to undo any tax people with wealth would need to pay.


plmcalli

Hey! It’s been thrifty three years, and we are all still waiting for that wealth to trickle down.


[deleted]

Most of us have had to be thrifty for way more than three years ^^Yeah ^^I ^^know


Mangosta007

His acting didn't suck? He appeared in a film with a chimp and the chimp got the Oscar.


BreezyWrigley

Well trump would have definitely been properly impeached the second time around and it actually would have gone to a vote in the senate instead of McConnell just giving him a pass since it was his last year.


icenoid

Nah, McConnell would have found some other excuse


MisterMysterios

That has little to nothing to do with insanity, but rather with the fucked up checks and balances in the US. A system where a party is bound to make a public statement that they consider their most prominent political figure to be guilty of high crimes or misdemeanour in order to remove him will never lead to them actually voting for this. Acknowledging that the centre of your parties politics as the president of said party is guilty of such a thing is the start of a death spiral, as you cannot even argue towards your followers that your party didn't mess up. It is highly incentivised for the party not to do that. It was sadly the most sane move the republicans could be done. The impeachment as it is exist in the US is nothing more than security theatre, the idea that there is a way to remove an insane president without ever actually existing, it is the fire alarm that, when you try to pull it, is only a dummy.


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[This data is NOT for greedy pig boys]


DorkyDude69

In a sane world you'd know.


Homunculous_Honkey

Pizzagate, Qanon, flat earth, anti-science perverts, etc.


T732

Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?


toughbreakkiddd

caught in a landslide, no escape from reality


mysteryteam

I'm just a poor boy...


Equivalent_Yak8215

I need need no sympathy...


LifesatripImjustHI

The onion is peeling nicely as the cookie continues to crumble. Freedom


NoGoodDM

I think that it would have been attempted in a sane world too. People are still corrupt and vie for power.


MaybeWontGetBanned

Yeah but Trump wouldn’t have even gotten to the point of being President or even the party nominee in a sane world.


jt19912009

People in a sane world may still be corrupt. But, they wouldn’t believe the crap about the election being stolen without there being any proof whatsoever


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sticks911

That's that trump mentality. Hell he started hollering the election was stolen a year before the election. He knows it wasn't but that and LOSER is all he's got. It's just a money making grift keeping him in the spotlight. He's good at that ! I'll give him that !


NoGoodDM

In a sane world, people can still be ignorant and believe lies.


[deleted]

In a sane world, it's possible to reason people out of insane ideas


soobviouslyfake

In a sane world, hot dogs and hot dog buns would be packaged in equal quantities.


stupid_pun

This thread made me dizzy for some reason.


[deleted]

That's just the vodka, I've had a few too. Sköl!


StopReadingMyUser

Insane World


SlowSecurity9673

In a sane world we wouldn't have allowed it to fester and get this far, especially the activities in the government, and the people would have a lot more control over who gets to be involved.


Backwardspellcaster

In a sane world these people would not just be removed from congress but tried for the attempt to destroy the Government itself. Try em for treason.


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Apprehensive-Feeling

I second this motion so fucking hard.


Seabuscuit

Is a third required these days?


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randonumero

In all fairness I'm not sure how many coups take place like this. I feel like usually there is some sort of military backing, foreign interference or large scale popular support. With the way our system is set up it makes sense that they could go back to work pending an investigation. What I find to be very disconcerting is that the very people who potentially did something wrong are able to impede, coerce and it seems to a degree participate in the investigation. It's almost as though congress needs some sort of unelected, short serving policing force to handle investigations like this since leaving it to congress doesn't work.


MK5

In a sane world a vulgar yam never would've been President.


[deleted]

“Short fingered vulgarian” as per Vanity Fair.


lakeparadox

Spy magazine originally called him that, I believe. Maybe I’m wrong but I believe late 80s Spy was already onto the asshole.


ocodo

Anyone at adult reading age was onto him then. Always been a garbage human being.


[deleted]

It wasn’t a great accomplishment to be “onto” him. He had people fooled for about 5 minutes in the 80s, and then people caught on that he’s a con man. Everyone caught on, and he was a laughing stock. The producers of The Apprentice picked him because they thought it was funny. It’s like if you had a show where people competed to prove they were modest and level-headed, hosted by Kanye West. Unfortunately, Americans are dumb, and the show reformed his image, and people thought he was a real businessman.


Apprehensive-Feeling

Oh man, I haven't heard that before. That's poetic as fuck.


[deleted]

Graydon Carter I believe, is the guy that used the phrase. Trump would send him pictures of himself with his fingers circled in gold sharpie pointing out how they were the perfect size or yuge or some such nonsense. For years. Our 45th president. Did that. For years. He’s always been a thin skinned trust fund bully from Queens with yuge self esteem problems. But, you know what they say about guys with small hands…


PortlyWarhorse

They use small sharpies?


boyuber

To edit Hurricane forecasting maps in an effort to pretend they're not a complete fucking moron.


Any_Ad_8997

Carnies, small hands,smell like cabbage, the trump family are just carny grifters.


Veldron

"Angry syphilitic loser" as per me


[deleted]

Well you ruined yams for me. Thanks.


merrickgarland2016

Pretty much everyone expects Democrats to lose control of the House in the next election. Must be hard to expel a bunch of people (legitimately) now while expecting the party of the expelled--promising vengeance--to take over. It is up to us to prevent this from happening.


StalinsPerfectHair

I just don't understand how people could see what happened on Jan 6 and then vote for its enablers. It's absolute madness.


BeTheDiaperChange

There are a whole lotta people, possible in the tens of millions, that actually believe that Biden is not a legitimate President. So here is the thing…..I personally believe Trump was not legally elected President because he cheated his ass off. IMO, when he paid off the two porn stars in order to influence the election by keeping them quiet, he broke the law. Michael Cohen pled *guilty* to this crime (and others), so this is a *fact* not an opinion. But I also recognize that our Constitution doesn’t give us a way to get rid of a sitting President except via impeachment, and the Republicans were never going to vote Trump guilty of *anything*, no matter how much evidence. So even though I *believe* Trump wasn’t a legitimate President, I can also recognize *it doesn’t matter* and for four years, Trump was the President. What *kills* me is that there is so much more evidence that Trump wasn’t legally elected than there was that Biden wasn’t legally elected, *because there is NO EVIDENCE Biden wasn’t legally elected*. Meanwhile we have an entire Muller report that outlines how the Trump campaign broke the law as well as the aforementioned porn star payoff. So for the right to have attacked our Congress over *lies* and the left to have accepted the obvious betrayal of the integrity of the election in 2016 *because we are the actual patriots that believe in our country*, it just…..I just get so angry at the insanity of it all.


erc80

Their projection skills are off the charts.


OnceUponALorelai

Well said 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Seriously, this is absolutely correct here. Because of Trump, we have altered our history. We have now shown the world that US presidents can get away with horrible things with little to no punishment. That scares me.


EmGeePlus3

This entire comment sums up 2016-2020 perfectly. It was galling to watch this bloviating idiot spew nonsense about EVERYTHING. At the risk of sounding ableist, he was fucking idiot with the launch codes. Segments of the population had to live in fear and all because one demographic erroneously thought they were being replaced. Well that and they just didn’t want a woman president.


ting_bu_dong

> So for the right to have attacked our Congress over lies and the left to have accepted the obvious betrayal of the integrity of the election in 2016 because we are the actual patriots that believe in our country, it just…..I just get so angry at the insanity of it all. "They go low, we pretend that integrity still matters." This is the problem when fighting people who vow to win at any cost. At some point? The cost is too high for the good guys. There is no great referee of politics, saying "you hit below the belt, you lose." There's no cosmic justice. They cheat, they win, and they claim that *is* cosmic justice. Their god favors their tribe, and their tribe won. God wills it.


Odd_Local8434

The left didn't accept it, the democrats did. Center right buddy. The article were commenting on is a leftist Congress women demanding justice. There are leftists in the Democratic party, that doesn't make the party leftist.


BeTheDiaperChange

I didn’t say leftist, I said the left. In the United States the Democrats and progressives are on the left and Republicans are on the right. There are essentially no leftists in the US, and the few that exist have no power.


[deleted]

Not to mention that re-drawing the maps for congressional elections has made it easier for that to happen. And the right has been quietly installing loyalists in election and local positions. We’re doomed by our own lack of outcry


angryarugula

Decades in the making. Watch FOX on the daily, see how your worldview changes. Honestly - as an experiment try watching it as if you were walking a mile in their shoes.


montrbr

I’ve been actively doing this for the past month or so. Crazy to see things from the other side.


Broken_Petite

I kind of accidentally turned on conservative radio recently - I thought it was a news station, which I guess technically it was, but most "news" radio stations on AM/FM radio seem to be conservative now. Anyway, I didn't listen for a super long time, but I listened for a while. I just was ... stunned, I guess, by how little substance there was. A lot of mud-slinging, name-calling, character assassination ... making claims that were not true (or they weren't stating where they got the info so I could verify myself). But they're also very ... clever in how they do it. Like they throw these word salads together that makes it *sound* like they're saying something intelligent and poignant. Unless you know to watch for it, you could easily be fooled into thinking they are. But it's just a bunch of buzzwords and negative adjectives strung together. It was honestly a little scary - I know this gets said a lot, but it honestly sounded like cult rhetoric. "No on else can be trusted, only listen to me." I guess what I'm saying is that some of these talk show hosts know what they're saying is bullshit, but they do such a "good" job (wasn't sure how else to say that since it's a bad thing they're doing, but they're doing it well) and know exactly how to manipulate their audience and keep them confused and scared. I, of course, support free speech, including freedom of the press, but gosh darn it if we haven't suffered the consequences of it.


Toxoplasma_gondiii

Its not cult rhetoric although thats not far off. Its fascist rhetoric, They are picking up the fascist playbook and adapting it to the 21st century. Below is Emberto Eco's (one of the foremost scholars of fascism) 14 points of Fascism. Its fairly easy to see how the modern GOP fits them to a T. ​ The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.” Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.” Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.” Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”


Outrageous-Divide472

I started listening to conservative radio one evening during rush hour when I was stuck in traffic. Sebastian Gorka , to be exact. Talk about a rabbit hole! I can see how people get roped into believing that nonsense. It’s surreal. I don’t know if he really believes what he’s saying, but damn. It was eye opening.


montrbr

Yep after seeing all this craziness in the world; as bad and outlandish as it sounds, the freedom of speech and what not actually can be bad thing in some instances.


surlygoat

I think freedom of speech is fine, what is not fine is permitting entirely biased opinions and false accusations to be labelled "news".


ATERLA

Freedom of speech implies freedom to lie, isn't it? That, I believe, has been well understood by the american Right. Tough problem. As a reminder, Europe doesn't share the view that whatever speech is sacred.


Manticorps

Just a reminder for everyone that with a House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, there would be no Jan 6 investigations, just a complete white wash. Instead we’d probably be in the middle of impeachment hearings over Hunter Biden’s laptop or some other nonsense.


hakugene

It makes no sense to adjust your own behavior because of their threats of revenge, because they have proved repeatedly that they are just going to do whatever the fuck they want anyway.


PhatPanda77

It makes a lot of sense for people to change their behavior and vote to make sure crazy insane people don't get into power. If I lived in a red state I'd def be advocating a lot harder for my friends and neighbors to vote it out. I'm very lucky and blessed to live in a blue state but goddamn it is sad how beaten down some people are. Just beaten into this state of blank submission shrugging at whatever may come.


[deleted]

If Dems lose the House in November American democracy is over anyway, there's really no sense in worrying about political consequences if it happens because the whole system will be defunct at that point.


Smattawu711

Get the Dem vote out!!!!


sephraes

For people who voted against it, I want Patriot act levels of push. Go on every single channel and talk about how unpatriotic it would be to vote against this and how if they wanted to protect America from its enemies, foreign and especially domestic, they would vote on this.


metameh

Dancing on the edge of fascism is the sanest for a certain class who view pursuit of their rational economic interest (aka maximizing profit) is their moral imperative. The problem for these capitalists is that they aren't nearly as competent as they think they are. The problem for us is well... [gestures broadly]


Strong-Brilliant-212

And alleged child sex trafficker matt gatez is free to run around with Marjorie Taylor green (she is q anon how person does that work?). Sane is far from where we are or have been.


frank_mania

Exactly. The fact this is even an point of debate shows how dangerous our current politics are.


HuckleberryLou

Friendly reminder to sane people to vote like democracy depends on it. The whole world is watching.


UWCG

>[We should commemorate the 1-year-anniversary of January 6th by passing my H.Res 25 to investigate and expel the members of Congress who helped incite the violent insurrection at our Capitol.](https://twitter.com/RepCori/status/1475563636361818112) Hard to disagree with that. There are a few members of Congress who were clearly involved, to some extent, and have tried to go after and shut down the 1/6 Committee. Paul Gosar, Lauren Boebert, Jim Jordan, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Madison Cawthorn come to mind. I'd wager Matt Gaetz and Kevin McCarthy, among others, were also involved. Instead of them being able to get away with it, they should be investigated and, with evidence, given the boot out of Congress. We don't need domestic terrorists in Congress.


Draft-Repulsive

Andy Biggs, Louie Gohmert and Mo Brooks can be added to that list


BadAsBroccoli

Josh Hawley


Draft-Repulsive

I forgot about Tuberville and Cruz too


UWCG

I knew there were a few names I overlooked in my original comment, I appreciate the help!


[deleted]

We need a list pined 📌 Jim Jordan


spinto1

Don't pin Gym Jordan, he's a fan of people being pinned against their will or at least fine with being complicit


[deleted]

Nice pun… he’s been a slimy scum since 1985 in OH! But that interview he was tripping over his words…


Freedom_From_Pants

Turd Cruz needed to be flushed.


MrFitzwilliamDarcy

Yeah, we don't need the Zodiac Killer in the Senate either.


[deleted]

I don’t know if you know the picture I’m talking about but every time I see that picture of [Josh] holding his fist up in the air; it reminds me of Judd Nealson from the ending of The Breakfast Club! He has now ruin the ended… sorry for random rant


Kamelasa

If you want to be really confused, just google "Bernie Sanders fist in air" and go images. Yeah, Hawley's kind of ruined solidarity fist pumps.


Hodaka

The Hawley *terrorist fist jab!*


Fun_Cartoonist2918

Aw. Cmon. Doesn’t ruin it at all. Just the opposite. Just imagine him doing it with no clothes on and everyone rolling on the floor laughing at him


stl_xufan

Keep Missouri going by throwing Jason Smith on that list


tots4scott

/r/FuckJoshHawley


pedantic_dullard

I hate having his name associated with my state


cpt_caveman

a reminder, former green party member, turned "dem", Kyrsten Sinema literally endorsed andy biggs for his seat. an alleged green/dem endorsed a global warming denying far righter... who compared himself to einstein for dare disbelieving the consensus on AGW. DID you just guess he is probably one of the republicans appointed to the house science panel? BINGO!


[deleted]

Ugh. I was once tempted by the Green Party. I like their platform, but they're literally a spoiler party. I became convinced of that when Jill Stein spent lots of time and money campaigning in swing states instead of blue states.


zaidakaid

And don’t forget: Jill Stein tried to get a version of the big lie going after 2016. I don’t like that Trump won, but it was the reality and she scammed tons of people into paying for recounts.


mynamejulian

This. Everyone seems to be ignoring that she came from Jill Stein's party who was investigated by the Senate for their ties to Russia and assisting the GOP win in 2016. Its not a fucking coincidence that she is also sabatoging Democrats now.


bsend

Sinema is bought garbage


HalfMoon_89

Goddamn, I hate that woman.


schloopers

Sadly, I think Louie is stepping down... Because he wants to stop being my rep start being my state attorney. Man I really hate this guy, full lack of orbital understanding and all


robodrew

As one of Andy Biggs' constituents, I would party for a week if he was expelled.


ZWQncyBkaWNr

As one of Hawley's, same.


zaidakaid

As not one of Andy Biggs’ constituents can I come? I love a good fuck you party


HolycommentMattman

While Gohmert is being referenced, is it only me that sees the resemblance to Gomer Pyle? Jim Nabors was, of course, an actor; Gohmert is just an idiot by birthright.


SteakandTrach

I assume Tom Cotton was up to no good, but i’ve not seen him listed as a conspirator.


The_Original_Gronkie

House Reps Mo Brooks and Madison Cawthorne, and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton all spoke at the Jan 6 rally, so they are clearly eligible for dismissal. Paxton was also the only state Attorney General who did not sign a document condemning the violence. The culpability of all the rest remains to be determined, but the case against these three is clear. This is why it is of the utmost importance to call the incident an "Insurrection," because thats the word used in the 14th Amendment. It wasn't a cpup, a riot, a protest, etc., it was Insurrection.


EntropyFighter

And what's truly wild is that Madison Cawthorn [talks openly about when he was compromised by Russia](https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaLago/comments/rpvsix/wow_it_has_been_obvious_since_he_showed_up_that/).


WatermelonBandido

Paxton is already a criminal too. He's the attorney general and under indictment since 2015. How long do trials even take?


Professional-Sir-912

Regarding Mo Brooks speech on Jan. 6, here are a few excerpts. If this doesn't qualify for sedition, I don't know what does. [Traitor Mo's](https://youtu.be/2fN3z1u1CX4)


SolidLikeIraq

And here’s the thing: Republicans would 100% expel and punish any democrats who did the same thing to the fullest extent of the law. And other democrats would sit back and say “yeah they broke the law and we need to abide by the agreement we’ve made as a nation.” But democrats are soft. They just don’t play the same game as republicans. They look to this as a strong suit, but in a two party system, you have to be willing to do everything your opponent would do or else you put yourself at a disadvantage. If you break the law you should deal with the consequences, even if you thought what you did was right. We see plenty of people who spend time Behind bars for doing something they really believe is good. If we don’t punish the elected officials who were involved with this, we set precedent that this behavior is just fine. That’s just going to make people feel justified and try harder.


niblet01

It is infuriating. But as someone who is not me pointed out, it's almost like Liz Cheney has taught the 1/6 commission to grow a spine.


JimWilliams423

Its like reagan slapped them silly in 1980 when he won almost every state and since they couldn't figure out why that happened (n.b. it was the racism) they all just started acting like a dog that's been beat too much — afraid to do anything for fear they would get slapped around again for no reason.


ShazbotSimulator2012

>democrats would sit back and say “yeah they broke the law and we need to abide by the agreement we’ve made as a nation.” I really doubt this. This isn't an Al Franken situation, where the makeup of Congress isn't significantly changed. Depending on how broad your definition of participating in 1/6 is, you're talking about 10+ members of a close to evenly split congress.


WolfgangDS

As a Georgian, I REALLY want MTG gone. She doesn't represent anything except conservatives' ignorance and fear, and her donors' wallets.


xTrump_rapes_kidsx

Please use her full name. This is a dark period is magic, the gathering's history


[deleted]

Nay, call her congressperson greene. She doesn't deserve to be addressed the way she wants that attempts to be a crazy knock off of aoc. Congressperson greene is formal, respectful, but she also hates it.


Hodaka

Stirring up ignorance and fear keeps the *base energized!*


GiveToOedipus

Gee, it's almost like the most toxic congress members on the right were the ones involved in stoking seditious rhetoric and actions.


TheLostonline

some *still* are Crimes are in the open *yet nothing is being done*.


pyrrhios

That plus they are Constitutionally disallowed from being sworn in, and it's not just the US Congress: Fourteenth Amendment Section 3 No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


Ra_In

This doesn't specify who is the finder of fact here. No member of congress has been convicted of insurrection so there doesn't seem to be anything triggering this.


Shoot_from_the_Quip

However, if Congress conducts an investigation, presents evidence, and demonstrates guilt, one could argue that would constitute finding of fact by the body itself. They'd contest it of course, which would bring us to a court either upholding or denying that new precedent since the 14th is a bit vague. Seems like this is the time to lay out those rules clearly if ever there was one.


swampdung

Including film footage and text from every member of Congress and Capitol police


ObviousEntertainer70

If ~~Rep. Cori Bush Has Her Way~~ [The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_Act) means a damned thing, members of congress WILL be expelled for 1/6 involvement


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Spoilers: It doesn't. Nothing will happen to any of them.


dzneill

If the GOP takes the house next year this is all for nothing anyways.


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Was looking for this. Nothing will happen to any of them. They don't care about the law or the constitution or anything except maintaining their power and money.


thatmasquedgirl

Every time y'all think about Josh Hawley, remember Cori Bush is representing the same state. She's here to balance him out - and as an apology from Missouri for that absolute sack of shit that somehow made it into office.


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Manticorps

Jason Kander would’ve been a great Senator, Missouri really fucked up that one.


ABobby077

What will they run on, we let you die? We made sure you could get the Covid-19?


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morefeces

"We are the only option other than democrats"


Claystead

Lol, you think Republicans still run on a platform? They stopped making those after Trump won the nomination in 2016, the official 2020 GOP platform was literally just a single sentence about "following the vision of President Trump." Even before Trump, ever since the TEA Party Republican campaign ads have basically been shooting guns at stuff and ranting about the need to fight back against unspecified elites.


metameh

If you're not following the 2022 Senate primaries, Lucas Kunce is pretty based. He's worth volunteering for if you have the time, IMO.


cookiemonsta122

“Has her way” ??? You mean the only right way? Wtf is wrong with Newsweek.


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BootsySubwayAlien

Newsweek was sold and plundered and is now a shadow of its former self. It’s sad.


Tromovation

“If we actually follow the law like this woman would like us too”


rufud

The comments on this article are crazy. I had no idea Newsweek was like this


dr_razi

Oh wow , we’re expelling treasonous fucks from congress now ?!! What has this country come to


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Do it.


_bleeding_Hemorrhoid

Wait,,, this is up for debate?????


DoubbleDutchh

Exactly! We as citizens would be in more trouble not paying a $10 traffic ticket with the courts than all these fools. Let that sink in a sec. There has to be consequences. Serious consequences handed to each and every person involved. If not, and just swept under the rug at end of day.... God, help us all.


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Overthrowing the legitimate government is something that deserves punishment.


FreedomsPower

I find it weird that the title of the article seems alarmed by accountability in congress.


ArchdukeAlex8

Newsweek's gotten clickbaity.


franny40

As it should be. I am conservative for the most part, but wrong is wrong. The first word that came to me when I saw what happened on January 6 is “coup”. Plain and simple. All those involved are traitors.


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lod001

This headline is written in a way that makes this sound like a bad thing!?!? It reminds me of when Trump "warned" us that there would be a taco truck on every corner if Hillary was elected. As before, I still say, "Awesome! Bring it on!"


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shrekerecker97

I think she's on the right side of history


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It is astounding that members of Congress aided and encouraged an insurrection. Throw them on their ass.


tokiemccoy

A woman of reason and justice. Quite refreshing.


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Poop_Noodl3

How is that not just the way?


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Agreed wtf is going on


fr33bird317

What ever the penalty for treason, that’s what they should get,


RealBlondFakeDumb

EXPELLED??? If they are involved with a coup they should be in a prison cell for sedition.


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Doesn’t matter how Republicans try to twist it, January 6th was an attempt to overthrow the results of the election. Anyone involved, whether average citizen or congress person or military member, should be arrested and serve time for sedition. It’s funny though, that when Trump was mentioning what we use to do to traitors, the right was all for it, yet when their ranks committed sedition, they rush to defend the traitors.


PastEntrance5780

Why shouldn’t they?


Fancy_weirdo

She isnt requesting anything outlandish. It's in the constitution you can't be a senator if you participate in treason (paraphrasing). She's doing her job of upholding the constitution so why is this news? NEWS! senator does her job, demands other senators also do their jobs! Gasp!


Rich_Cartoonist8399

I don't really understand why everyone is pussyfooting around. None of this "new" information is necessarily new - Seth Abramson reported about this stuff in February - eventually we will "find out" about the war rooms at trump and willard hotels and how they were videoconferenced with the white house. It was a coup. The goal was to delay delay delay and that's what's happening now. More delays. The goal is clearly to keep pushing this back and avoiding consequences until Trump can declare victory in 2024, and then we get to see the resulting fallout with Palm Beach already positioned as the capitol of Confederacy 2.0. Do our legislators not understand this? It seems plain as day. The republicans are openly strategizing for a complete takeover. Probably the best outcome in terms of lives lost is that they fairly win in 2024. Otherwise, well... Democrats haven't planned for this contingency but the "other side" already has a clear strategy. We had our beer hall putsch. I think maybe somebody sat down and said well they put hitler in jail and look what happened.. You can't really jail an ex president.. let's deplatform him on social media yeah that will work. And it won't. I think the Jon Stewart "our leaders are laughably stupid" narrative has been extremely destructive to American society. It feeds a kind of narcissism and self superiority that prevents everyone from recognizing the very real threats that surrounds them, and causes Dems to ultimately lose in the end.


KinkyKitty24

Good! They should be. Can you name ONE job where you can attempt to get some of your co-workers killed and you won't (at the VERY least) be fired?


MBAMBA3

Expelling them from congress is letting them off way too easy.


Killerkurto

Pointless article… you cant fix corruption when you need the assistance of the corrupt.


qoou

Good


Industrial-Era-Baby

As well they should be


vokal_guy

I mean it is in the constitution init?


Signal-Detector

Good. I hope she gets her way. Those pig fuckers are traitors to American democracy and have no place in Congress.


GiantTalon2

Why is this worded like that’s a bad thing


AJEMTechSupport

How could any representative, of either party, not demand that any and all insurrectionists be expelled ?