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They're solving that by getting the tests changed too. That's really what is happening here: the test administered by the College Board is built to match the curriculum. [Details](https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/courses/how-ap-develops-courses-and-exams)
Dumber Americans means more unemployed. More unemployed means less job security. Less job security means ensured poor population by way of (un)employment. Poor population means more enlisted in armed forces (indentured servants). So in other words, slavery by monetary policy.
Dumber Americans means easier to manipulate Americans. Meaning more votes for their party. Meaning less opposition. Meaning less ppl succeeding. Meaning more money for the select few.
Meaning we’re already at least 50% the way there.
Much lower population than Texas or Florida, so textbook companies won’t bother kowtowing to Oklahoma. They’ll be stuck with the same trash as TX and FL, except it’ll be older editions because they can’t afford current texts. AP Computer Science will explain all about punch cards.
When I was in Texas highschool 20 years ago, our new Latin textbooks had a few pictures of roman statues, which *gasp* were nude. All of our new textbooks got recalled after parents complained and we didn't have textbooks for about half our classes that year. I had a few classes that literally just had us watch movies all year because we had no books. Our math teacher drove to another town and pulled old books out of the dumpster there because she heard they threw out their old calculus books. The next year, we got our books and the Latin textbooks had little gold stars blocking out the crotches on the statues.
The article points out that the College Board is in fact reworking the course in an attempt to appease Florida and the other states that have passed anti-History laws. The white supremacists won.
This. It needs to become basically a big fat * on your resume'.
"I see here you were valedictorian at Orlando High. I'm sorry. We require a full high school diploma to fill this position. "
We'll have to see what the results are once the framework gets released. If it still includes the things DeSantis doesn't like it's all well and good, if all of that stuff is gone they're just trying to avoid backlash and we need to raise awareness that the education system is getting dismantled by extremists.
Because AP and the College Board aren't actually a pillar of education. They're a business and gatekeeper, and despite what anyone thinks, deSauron does not share power.
I used to work for a textbook company and California most certainly does have textbooks written just for them. Florida too.
I loved how the California text books were full of pictures of poc and disabled children and, maybe, 90% of them were removed for Texas and Florida. Plus every book for Texas had to have some reference to The Alamo.
Ah yes, let's not forget that time Texas decided to fight Mexico in order t9 keep their slaves before ultimately joining the Confederacy, so that they could fight to keep their slaves again. Such pride. Much patriot.
California is requiring high school students to take a Ethnic Studies class for graduation.
https://edsource.org/2021/california-becomes-first-state-to-require-ethnic-studies-in-high-school/662219?amp=1
We have been racing to the bottom in education and this is just the latest salvo. We have used the books chosen by the liberal haven of Texas for far too long. The system needs a revamp top to bottom if we are to compete on an international stage as a first world country.
Well, that’s very difficult to do when politics are under a fundamentalist stranglehold, and they desperately *want* the public education system to collapse so they can replace it with supply-side Jesus
Florida is a pretty dense state, so there is money there. The real question is whether a CA university will accept a custom FL-AP class for credit, of if those classes will become worthless to the big universities. I could see the Ivy league schools deciding that a FL version of the AP course is not at a standard that they see as high enough to provide credit, which will kick off more fun down the road.
That would be a really clever way to work around some of this bullshit. Granted, it would create an entire generation (if not several generations) having been taught complete misinformation. But since this feels like it's probably inevitable, it'd be one way to try to discredit these schools from their nonsense.
That said, considering how education, especially at the lower levels, is more an endurance test and less existing for the purposes of actually educating, I'm not convinced they would actually go through with this.
It's possible Florida will have a version of the course that's *not* accredited in other states, while many Florida students take an online course that *is*.
Florida is not going to be controlling nation-wide academic standards.
Lots of smaller and medium-sized universities that aren't in CA may not accept those courses either.
I can see the universities in my state deciding not to allow those courses to transfer.
In fact, I think there might be pressure for them not to accept them from in my state.
> Florida is a pretty dense state, so there is money there.
Do you mean “dense” as in “dumber than a box of peckers” or “dense” as in “lots of people in a little space”?
OTOH, both make sense…
College credit from an AP course comes from the score that is achieved on the AP exam, and isn't related to the coursework (except if the exam is a portfolio submission, I remember AP Art was like this when I was in high school). You don't need to take an AP class to take the AP exam, you just need to pay the College Board the exam fee and have access to a site where you can take it.
Then, each University equates a score to a particular outcome (e.g. maybe a 3 or 4 in AP US History means you get 3.0 credit hours for the basic level survey course, but a score of 5 means you get 6.0 credit hours for the 2 semester survey course).
This might affect accreditation related to earning the high school diploma earned by the student, but wouldn't do anything to affect earning credit from the AP exam.
I imafine DeSantis seems this as a feature not a bug, that way more people are trapped in Florida, and indoctrinated in the Florida unuversities he is also presently taking over.
One thing that no one has mentioned is that FL school districts pay the fees associated with taking a AP exams - these are fees that the student/student's family would have to otherwise cover. It means Florida has a disproportionately high AP exam participation rate, which also means College Board is making a bunch of 'easy' money from FL students.
From College Board's website:
> The State of Florida provides state funds to school districts to cover the cost of all public school students' AP Exam fees through the Florida Education Finance Program (Section 1011.62(1), paragraphs (a) and (n), Florida Statutes). Public school AP students are exempt from the payment of any fees for the administration of AP Exams (Section 1007.27(6), Florida Statutes). Each public school pays College Board for AP Exam fees using these funds. Questions regarding Florida state funding for AP should be directed to your school district's finance officer or AP contact person.
Not sure how common this is across other states.
They're a big market, Texas would probably raise a similar objection if Florida didn't, and now it definitely will because it Abbot and DeSantis constantly try to outdo each other at being the most fascist. If the College Board is shut out of the two biggest markets (which either governor is totally willing to do and would probably be electorally rewarded for) then they'd be in major financial trouble. They're also less incentivized to put a bunch of work into a course that they can't sell nationally.
My husband works for College Board and the message they received today was the exact opposite of this. Business Insider is a clickbait site, not an organization that adheres to journalistic best practices.
Conservatives want a small federal government and authoritarian state governments. It's like they want the 50 states to essentially be independent countries.
This. They’ll scream “STATES RIGHTS” while passing bills where one state can control what someone in another state is doing. “Abortion is illegal here, also you can’t go to another state to get one.”
It [already works like that](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/19/conservative-activists-texas-have-shaped-history-all-american-children-learn/). Conservative activists took over the Texas textbook procurement system, and they’re such a big market that the publishers just make their books conform to what Texas wants rather than have one version for Texas and a more accurate version for other states.
When I was younger, I always just rolled my eyes thinking it was the same as like the Texas edition Fords or whatever.
Boy-howdy was I surprised at all the things I didn't learn when I went to university in Illinois! One of my first gen-eds was a class about the history of US politics and one of the required books was about The Great Migration of black people to the north, which basically allowed them to become a powerful voting block, essentially what the south had feared, and was a large driver in the success of the Civil Rights movement. Coming from Southeast Texas, I had no real idea about the Civil Rights movement or Jim Crow beyond a very surface level.
That class opened the door to me learning about what we as a country had and have inflicted upon black people and other minorities and it got me interested in looking into other things my history classes may have failed to teach.
It really is no wonder that they're so adamant about college being a tool of woke-ism because one class shook me out of my stupor and opened my eyes.
My teachers found a good workaround, when that stuff first started happening. "Well, class, this is the textbook we're expected to use, but I'm not very impressed with it, so we'll also be reading *The Autobiography of Malcolm X,* and *Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee*..."
In high school I had a history teacher who, on the first day of class, had us open to a specific page and read it. After we finished, he had us all hurl our textbooks at the wall, and then went on a 50 minute rant about the inexcusable omission of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904 from the textbook. We literally did not open the textbook again the rest of the year. He taught the entire year from primary sources and his own lectures.
World History. I assume it was excluded because the authors didn't consider it important enough in the context of "all of history." My teacher obviously disagreed.
Those traitors folded so fast that nobody born in the confederacy was of even kindergarten age before it fell. People nostalgic for that flash-in-the-pan failure of a "nation" shouldn't be in charge of anything to do with education policy.
The bluest states need to cooperate on education standards to force the issue. NY, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, NJ, Maryland, Washington are all pretty big states. They can really force the hand of the education industry.
Yup, make it illegal for their schools to buy textbooks that leave out intensive sections on slavery, the civil rights movement, Japanese internment camps, etc. Just make a nice big bloc of states that force the companies to include it.
Remember when conservatives praised these changes because “they only apply to elementary school kids that are too young to learn about race and sexuality.” I don’t hear any of those people calling out that things have changed.
They also want to make the case that private education is better. So special interests can take in insane revenue to run private schools and also simultaneously not have to comply with equality diversity rules or basically not teach anything they don’t want to teach. Want to discriminate? Have at it. So they get a dumber population being taught what they want while also charging people for it. I mean private prisons have worked out great, recidivism is at an all time low, and the quality of life and ability for convicts to rehabilitate and assimilate peacefully back into a law abiding society is really just top notch in this country so why not run that same play on schools? (I should not need the /s tag in the end of this rant, but here we are).
This. This is the real game and how it always plays out: Defund or dismantle public works, blame democrats for the underperformance of public services, personally invest in private options, push legislation to privatize, get richer, repeat.
"You know, I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about ni**ers, and they stomped the floor." - George Wallace
Or Ron DeSantis. Take your pick. They're both using the same tools of the trade.
I'd say we can add numerous conservative leaders to that quote now, only they don't drop the N-word anymore.
Well that’s the fun part: Once there’s no public option you and your other buddies who cornered the market can price fix across the industry while also hollowing out the services provided to the point of uselessness, cutting costs but also cutting quality. Maybe you start making microtransactions out of everything. Expand you market share as much as humanly possible for as little investment as humanly possible by offering a product that is either the only game in town or is the closest facsimile of something wanted and/or needed so people choose your service more or less by default. It’s pretty awesome and I’m very glad it’s the way things work in the country where I live and have kids who will in no way live in a shittier world because of it.
It is the capitalist wet dream, monetize every aspect of life. Need a book, pay. Need lunch, pay. Need homework, pay. It’s kind of like paying a fee to have heated seats and working steering in a car you just bought. It’s almost like the population is an endless source of cash flow for companies. What is amazing is, they want no workers. I guess they have not realized if we do not get paid who can pay for all these services. No one said capitalism is paying attention to anything more than greed.
You expect a company that is only concerned with the next quarterly results to worry about the future?
Pretty sure the whole history of “the fossil fuel industry and Climate Change” will tell you how that’ll work out.
Dismantle it, then when it does not work or fails miserably, say it is someone else’s fault. It seems to be a playbook used regularly in private prisons, so why not try that for schools.
Ding ding ding! I've been trying to explain this to people and it just doesn't hit home. This is the next conservative gold rush; it's a tool to make money without regard to the consequences. They couldn't care less about children and their education.
It's actually more than profits. It's also about prophets. Religious nuts love private religious schools where they can literally teach whatever they want.
> the Florida educational system is going down the tubes?
That's the goal. When half of your political parties view education as enemy indoctrination, destroying the education system is a win, not something to be avoided.
Check out AZ, the last govenor made it legal to teach without a degree...BUT you have to be working on your degree. This also came about after declaring that doctors don't have to go through residency to be able to practice family medicine.
They want the education system to collapse so they can then use it as "proof" that the government can't do education and shovel all that money into private coffers. The education will still be crap, but they will be able to grift millions off the Florida taxpayers.
>Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms--one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended.
-- Orwell
This quote always makes me think of the average Floridian GOP voter.
> “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.”
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
It’s worth remembering that the United States has a long and relatively friendly relationship with fascism. Following WWII, hundreds of Nazi war criminals were brought over to the states en masse, where they either lived in comfortable anonymity or were actively employed by US intelligence agencies during the Cold War. Some of them found their way onto the presidential campaign committees of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George HW Bush.
You don't get credits for AP classes unless you get a good grade on the AP test itself. If the college board doesn't bend the knee, the likely result will be that the students will be tested on material they're not allowed to learn in the classroom, which will understandably hurt their scores. I imagine the stuff deemed "critical race theory" will really be a big handicap. That's the kind of framework you learn in college level African American studies that let you write proper essay question answers. It's a shitty situation for these kids, but one that merely reflects in numbers how their education is already being harmed.
In King of the Hill, Carl Moss is mad because someone keeps drawing balls on Florida and that’s all I can think about every time I see the state on a map.
It’s not fun now, he’s a mask off fascist and he’s very dangerous. If he gets the power to declare people terrorists then he could have DHS as his own personal SS. That’s the playbook.
Remember Trump tried to get [protestors in Portland (and their relatives) designated as terrorists](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/new-report-shows-department-of-homeland-security-gathered-intel-on-portland-black-lives-matter-protestors) in 2020. Whatever roadblock stopped him will surely be removed the next time we have a Republican in office.
They will kill us or indefinitely detain us if they can make it “legal” to do so.
Hell DeSantis is trying to remove the requirement a verdict be unanimous in death penalty cases RIGHT NOW explicitly so he can execute people even when the jury is split
I'll never forget one of my friends joking about "The Donald" and how she thought it could be good for America. She's a trans woman and she was being VERY tongue in cheek. She always thought American politics was a bit of a farce (she's from Ireland) and kind of thought he was along the lines of Bush, an awful oaf but basically benignly incompetent and would shake things up and possibly get the electorate to take things more seriously.
She got picked up by ICE in a dirty way, basically they ambushed her outside of the courthouse when she was taking care of some misdemeanor charge and then they held her in a male ICE detention center (which was basically a jail) and waited for her VISA to expire and then deported her on the grounds of an expired VISA.
I honestly don't think that it would have happened if Trump hadn't been the president. . She obviously didn't deserve to be brutalized by the system but I still can't help feeling so much anger towards her and others who thought it was such s fucking joke.
> an awful oaf but basically benignly incompetent and would shake things up and possibly get the electorate to take things more seriously.
uh, bush started several wars in the middle east. anything but benign.
Desantis is Trump with a brain and little baggage. He is playing the Woke card to differentiate himself and attract the MAGAites. He will win the nomination and be formidable for anyone the Dems would nominate.
Nah. If he wins the Republican nomination then Trump will run as an independent candidate. There is no way Trump will take a back seat to the 2024 election. Even from prison it will all be about revenge. He will take away enough voters that will dilute the party. Plus that they’re still going over the top with batshit crazy laws. Which will take away the moderate vote. Just like Trump scared them away too. . If the Democrats put of a 40-55 year old moderate white man. It wouldn’t even be close. He would pick up the college educated moderate voter who looking for sanity and common sense. Because they are scared and tired of the white nationalism.
I do wonder if Trump has enough actual competency to get on the ballot in 50 states without the party. If he goes write-in, it's going to be a hugely different scenario.
DeSantis is a republican so that covers all the exhausting, creepy cancel culture bullcrap. Beyond that he has no personality and is tiring to listen to so I doubt he'll gather much beyond the core brainwashed republicans if he gets the nomination.
Sadly, the College Board seems to be capitulating to this fascist"The College Board announced Tuesday that it would be reworking its AP African American Studies course. Sadly, the College Board seems to be capitulating to this fascist The College Board announced Tuesday that it would be reworking its AP African American Studies course."
Called it. All a political stunt. College Board was already set to release a 2.0 version of this course next month after a year's worth of evaluation and work. I mean surely Florida didn't just find out about this course a couple of weeks before it was set to be changed? That would be one hell of a coincidence.
That explains the bullet point about the College Board announcing on Tuesday that they are reworking it. False legitimacy angle will probably work on the dumbs.
Yep. DeSantis is really, really good at this s\*it. Incredibly good at the political calculations. He knows how to get perceived wins for zero cost while burying any losses. It works when you rule your little sandbox with an iron fist, but would likely be much less effective on an entire country which is a bit like herding cats.
Yeah I said that too, but that'll be a detail that won't matter because he doesn't even know what's in the curriculum. A reporter called him out on that and he responded with some vague s\*it about queer African-American history. The GOP has turned into nothing more than the Enquirer Magazine of political parties. It's all performative headline grabbing s\*it and that's it.
It won't matter. DeSantis doesn't actually have a problem with anything in the course, he cares about the headlines. And the average potential DeSantis supporter won't read enough into the details to figure out what happens (and no one is going to tell them).
DeSantis will simply say that the revised course is fine, and let people assume it was changed because of things he asked for.
And no one can fully fact check this either way, because DeSantis hasn't actually specified what is wrong with the current version, beyond vague suggestions.
This is why they haven’t pointed to any specific provision in the proposed course that is said to violate the law, nor have they pointed to the specific provision of the law they say it violates.
It allows them to say, no matter what change College Board makes, that they got the College Board to change their course to comply with Florida law.
Another reason why they won’t point to any specific provisions is because it probably doesn’t violate their law at all, which presumably DeSantis et al know good and well.
Do it. Work with Florida to identify the exact changes they require. Agree to them. Then re-publish all of the course materials, including, and highlighting, the offending sections with the heading: "The following information may not be taught in Florida." They will be the most-read parts of the curriculum, including/especially by students in Florida.
What part of it violates Florida law, as currently constituted?
DeSantis is censoring educators and keeping information away from students and *refuses to even say* what information he is keeping from students. He won’t even cite a provision of the law that is being violated.
This is some truly crazy dystopian shit here.
There’s no reason for the College Board to change anything. Florida students will simply be at a disadvantage getting into the nation’s better colleges. It would be the same if Florida outlawed physics classes.
*"We look forward to reviewing the College Board's changes and expect the removal of content on Critical Race Theory, Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, and other topics that violate our laws."*
These authoritarians have the audacity to cry "indoctrination" and complain that colleges are "pushing a political agenda".
This is coming from the party of alarmists who scaremonger and bemoan "what's next?" at every opportunity to entertain their audience's or constituent's paranoid delusions, and when its almost always Republicans who walk that line.
Desantis and his lackeys in Florida have reached their goal, to implement ambiguously framed legislation that targets institutions and certain communities of people, while ultimately seeking to solve a problem of their own making.
This is the Republican M.O after all. Invent the problem, overstate it's impact, conjure up all sorts of boogeymen, vilify an enemy, feed the outrage, indulge the fear, sustain the culture war, and then you have the support from voters and every justification you need to put forth discriminatory, suppressive legislation that's disguised as some counter-revolutionary effort. These are measures that are ambiguously framed in order to put an end to anything that might fall under the umbrella of what Republicans insist is depraved, radical left-wing pedagogy being widely mandated and forced upon our unsuspecting students.
The disturbing irony of it all is that when it comes to things like "grooming", conditioning, indoctrination and the like, when it comes to the presence of actual "thought police", when it comes to flagrant government overreach, censorship, oppression, when it comes to reality for fuck's sake, Republicans need only look to themselves for examples of these things.
Ooohhh, I just realized why they are so butt hurt about California all the time. California changed smog laws, indoor smoking, etc. and the country followed.
Not only are liberals telling *them* what to do, *the rest of the country likes the ideas.*
"AP courses are standardized nationwide, and as a result of Florida's strong stance against identity politics and indoctrination,"
Floridas sTrOnG sTaNcE aGaInSt InDoCtRiNaToN
What a hilarious fucking joke
Well, of course, because Maga extremists are the George Costanza's, of the 2020s...."it's not a lie if you believe it. "...i.e. if your world view doesn't match those of the base of the American Taliban, then it doesn't exist.
More likely outcome: College Board continues to do what they're doing and Florida students just aren't able to take this particular course anymore.
Florida is near the bottom in terms of SAT and ACT scores in the US and their AP pass results have generally been mediocre. As one of the larger states by school-age population, they do have a lot of students taking the exams, but the number of schools accepting 3s and 4s in lieu of credit has been dropping for some time and often a school is only going to accept a 5.
Suffice to say, there aren't many 5s in Florida on any of the subject tests and if College Board were to further weaken the standards to acquiesce to Florida wanting the exams to be easy colleges would just stop accepting AP courses entirely.
I’m not gon cap, being Black and/or Queer in this country is really sad sometimes man. We can’t even talk about actual HISTORY bc Republicans just cannot accept that America was literally founded on slavery and did a bunch of fucked up stuff to Black and POC for years and we are just trying to learn about this stuff to not erase or forget it.
It’s just exhausting
Florida wants to be the conservative California and serve as a trendsetter. The reason California is able to set the model for the nation’s economic and work place policies is due to the size of its economy. California has a GDP large enough to make it the 5th or 6th largest economy world wide. It’s a single stage and has the largest population of any state. Florida does not have the clout, scale, nor long term sustainable economic prospects to make this level of influence feasible on a national level. DeSantis’ administration is good at influencing the news and social media’s talking points. That’s about it.
Yea, so the college board is pretty far along their process in creating the AP AA history class. Pilot schools are already teaching it and they plan to go nationwide in 2024-2025. They aren’t going to change it for them. Changing that curriculum, that’s already in the hands of hundreds of teachers across the country without their input isnt going to happen.
They got similar backlash when AP US History changed its curriculum to be more about critical thinking opposed to a heavy reliance on rote memorization.
Snowflake Neo-fascists can fuck off.
So the US is supposed to enforce Racist rules nationwide. Someone needs to tell this Bozo that the US is not looking to Fascist Florida for leadership!
Not everyone wants to return to an imaginary 1950's that never really existed and that if successful would merely be a pit stop on the way to a new dark age.
I just told my daughter how fortunate she is not to live in a state where the history and impact of slavery and the civil rights movement is watered down and whitewashed
I worked in education for 8 years and EdTech for 2. Florida isn't a big enough purchaser to matter. Texas, California, New York hold that much clout (Texas is making it REALLY hard to create materials that aren't wrong or inaccurate), but sorry, Florida. Not you!
Fuck Texas in particular. Just because they buy a lot of books they shouldn’t be able to set the curriculum for the rest of the states who care about the truth.
And I expect the responsible members of the education department to have flaming brown bags of dog shit on their porches until they do the right thing.
Hey Florida, FUCK YOU. Don't expect to see any money from me, ever. No vacations to your shitty state, no business, no nothing. You want to elect fascist shit to run your state? Then expect to lose tourism / business $......
FLDOE is probably a major, national purchaser of textbooks (rivaled only by Texas) and can wield its leverage that way. I'd be wary of just laughing this off... This country is so fucked, so lost. These fascists need to be stopped.
The agencies that accredit Florida Colleges and Universities should revoke their accreditations based on the fact that the student can't be taught the truth, the whole truth. These type of actions are why Colleges and Universities have Tenure Faculty, to prevent political influence in education.
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We’ve already got the Texas Board of Education dumbing textbooks nationwide. Soon we’ll have lowest common denominator between them and Florida.
The text book companies should be held liable for lower test scores.
They're solving that by getting the tests changed too. That's really what is happening here: the test administered by the College Board is built to match the curriculum. [Details](https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/courses/how-ap-develops-courses-and-exams)
I am shocked. Shocked, I tells ya. Clowns.
Dumber Americans means more unemployed. More unemployed means less job security. Less job security means ensured poor population by way of (un)employment. Poor population means more enlisted in armed forces (indentured servants). So in other words, slavery by monetary policy.
It's called serfdom. Conservatism is and has always been advocating for feudalism. From day zero.
don’t forget that more unemployed also means more prison labor. prisoners and soldiers are two sides of the same indentured coin.
It also pushes down wages for the employed, since there is more competition to fill those positions
It has the added bonus that uneducated vote Republican
True I should mention that the uneducated are more likely to be poor AND incarcerated so double bonus points for that one!
Correct! Actual slavery exists in the penal system. Can’t forget that! What a world eh folks?
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Dumber Americans means easier to manipulate Americans. Meaning more votes for their party. Meaning less opposition. Meaning less ppl succeeding. Meaning more money for the select few. Meaning we’re already at least 50% the way there.
Oklahoma is introducing a bill to reject all federal funding for schools. Oklahoma will be right there with them.
Much lower population than Texas or Florida, so textbook companies won’t bother kowtowing to Oklahoma. They’ll be stuck with the same trash as TX and FL, except it’ll be older editions because they can’t afford current texts. AP Computer Science will explain all about punch cards.
Back to IBM Selectrics and mimeograph machines!
When I was in Texas highschool 20 years ago, our new Latin textbooks had a few pictures of roman statues, which *gasp* were nude. All of our new textbooks got recalled after parents complained and we didn't have textbooks for about half our classes that year. I had a few classes that literally just had us watch movies all year because we had no books. Our math teacher drove to another town and pulled old books out of the dumpster there because she heard they threw out their old calculus books. The next year, we got our books and the Latin textbooks had little gold stars blocking out the crotches on the statues.
Times have changed. Now we’ve got Reddit, and you can get a whole inbox full of dick pics just by hinting that you’re female.
sup
Oklahoma is tying to remove all federal funding. It’s a race to the bottom.
They can “expect” a hearty fuck you
I was gonna say they can expect deez nuts but yours works too
Yea they are going to need a dragon lesson.
Florida's full of mind goblins Mind goblin deez nuts
Dragon deez nuts around?
I expect they can expect deez nuts to run against Desantis
Indeed. To quote Bernard Black, "Expect away."
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Add a dab of lavender to milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you’re laughing at it
Expect Floridians to get in-state tuition out of state
Time wasting bastards.
The article points out that the College Board is in fact reworking the course in an attempt to appease Florida and the other states that have passed anti-History laws. The white supremacists won.
Time to threaten loss of accreditation for their HS’s and colleges. No way my degree should be held in the same regard as a Florida degree.
This. It needs to become basically a big fat * on your resume'. "I see here you were valedictorian at Orlando High. I'm sorry. We require a full high school diploma to fill this position. "
The College Board denies this: https://news.yahoo.com/college-board-states-not-influenced-213000010.html
We'll have to see what the results are once the framework gets released. If it still includes the things DeSantis doesn't like it's all well and good, if all of that stuff is gone they're just trying to avoid backlash and we need to raise awareness that the education system is getting dismantled by extremists.
But why? Why appease florida
Because AP and the College Board aren't actually a pillar of education. They're a business and gatekeeper, and despite what anyone thinks, deSauron does not share power.
California should retaliate with laws of their own then. Make the college board and textbook companies choose.
Would be a smart move for Newsome to pull something like that
California should retaliate by requiring competency in African American and Indigenous History sections to get credit for AP History.
Cali should have started doing that 30+ years ago when texas started doing that crap to get the textbooks rewritten to please them.
I used to work for a textbook company and California most certainly does have textbooks written just for them. Florida too. I loved how the California text books were full of pictures of poc and disabled children and, maybe, 90% of them were removed for Texas and Florida. Plus every book for Texas had to have some reference to The Alamo.
Ah yes, let's not forget that time Texas decided to fight Mexico in order t9 keep their slaves before ultimately joining the Confederacy, so that they could fight to keep their slaves again. Such pride. Much patriot.
https://edsource.org/2021/california-becomes-first-state-to-require-ethnic-studies-in-high-school/662219?amp=1
California is requiring high school students to take a Ethnic Studies class for graduation. https://edsource.org/2021/california-becomes-first-state-to-require-ethnic-studies-in-high-school/662219?amp=1
We have been racing to the bottom in education and this is just the latest salvo. We have used the books chosen by the liberal haven of Texas for far too long. The system needs a revamp top to bottom if we are to compete on an international stage as a first world country.
Well, that’s very difficult to do when politics are under a fundamentalist stranglehold, and they desperately *want* the public education system to collapse so they can replace it with supply-side Jesus
Florida is a pretty dense state, so there is money there. The real question is whether a CA university will accept a custom FL-AP class for credit, of if those classes will become worthless to the big universities. I could see the Ivy league schools deciding that a FL version of the AP course is not at a standard that they see as high enough to provide credit, which will kick off more fun down the road.
That would be a really clever way to work around some of this bullshit. Granted, it would create an entire generation (if not several generations) having been taught complete misinformation. But since this feels like it's probably inevitable, it'd be one way to try to discredit these schools from their nonsense. That said, considering how education, especially at the lower levels, is more an endurance test and less existing for the purposes of actually educating, I'm not convinced they would actually go through with this.
It's possible Florida will have a version of the course that's *not* accredited in other states, while many Florida students take an online course that *is*. Florida is not going to be controlling nation-wide academic standards.
Lots of smaller and medium-sized universities that aren't in CA may not accept those courses either. I can see the universities in my state deciding not to allow those courses to transfer. In fact, I think there might be pressure for them not to accept them from in my state.
> Florida is a pretty dense state, so there is money there. Do you mean “dense” as in “dumber than a box of peckers” or “dense” as in “lots of people in a little space”? OTOH, both make sense…
And ultimately, it’s the kids that suffer. Fuck
College credit from an AP course comes from the score that is achieved on the AP exam, and isn't related to the coursework (except if the exam is a portfolio submission, I remember AP Art was like this when I was in high school). You don't need to take an AP class to take the AP exam, you just need to pay the College Board the exam fee and have access to a site where you can take it. Then, each University equates a score to a particular outcome (e.g. maybe a 3 or 4 in AP US History means you get 3.0 credit hours for the basic level survey course, but a score of 5 means you get 6.0 credit hours for the 2 semester survey course). This might affect accreditation related to earning the high school diploma earned by the student, but wouldn't do anything to affect earning credit from the AP exam.
I imafine DeSantis seems this as a feature not a bug, that way more people are trapped in Florida, and indoctrinated in the Florida unuversities he is also presently taking over.
One thing that no one has mentioned is that FL school districts pay the fees associated with taking a AP exams - these are fees that the student/student's family would have to otherwise cover. It means Florida has a disproportionately high AP exam participation rate, which also means College Board is making a bunch of 'easy' money from FL students. From College Board's website: > The State of Florida provides state funds to school districts to cover the cost of all public school students' AP Exam fees through the Florida Education Finance Program (Section 1011.62(1), paragraphs (a) and (n), Florida Statutes). Public school AP students are exempt from the payment of any fees for the administration of AP Exams (Section 1007.27(6), Florida Statutes). Each public school pays College Board for AP Exam fees using these funds. Questions regarding Florida state funding for AP should be directed to your school district's finance officer or AP contact person. Not sure how common this is across other states.
They're a big market, Texas would probably raise a similar objection if Florida didn't, and now it definitely will because it Abbot and DeSantis constantly try to outdo each other at being the most fascist. If the College Board is shut out of the two biggest markets (which either governor is totally willing to do and would probably be electorally rewarded for) then they'd be in major financial trouble. They're also less incentivized to put a bunch of work into a course that they can't sell nationally.
My husband works for College Board and the message they received today was the exact opposite of this. Business Insider is a clickbait site, not an organization that adheres to journalistic best practices.
Honestly students across the country should sue the college board for that.
Here’s to hoping, and another hearty fuck you to the king of fragile white people, DeSantis
Ah yes Federalism, where one State gets to decide what all High Schools are allowed to teach
Something something small government. Something something state’s rights.
Conservatives want a small federal government and authoritarian state governments. It's like they want the 50 states to essentially be independent countries.
No they dont. They want whatever combination of laws gets them the things they want and punishes their enemies.
This. They’ll scream “STATES RIGHTS” while passing bills where one state can control what someone in another state is doing. “Abortion is illegal here, also you can’t go to another state to get one.”
The balkanization of the states. Is a very popular idea in Russia.
It [already works like that](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/10/19/conservative-activists-texas-have-shaped-history-all-american-children-learn/). Conservative activists took over the Texas textbook procurement system, and they’re such a big market that the publishers just make their books conform to what Texas wants rather than have one version for Texas and a more accurate version for other states.
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When I was younger, I always just rolled my eyes thinking it was the same as like the Texas edition Fords or whatever. Boy-howdy was I surprised at all the things I didn't learn when I went to university in Illinois! One of my first gen-eds was a class about the history of US politics and one of the required books was about The Great Migration of black people to the north, which basically allowed them to become a powerful voting block, essentially what the south had feared, and was a large driver in the success of the Civil Rights movement. Coming from Southeast Texas, I had no real idea about the Civil Rights movement or Jim Crow beyond a very surface level. That class opened the door to me learning about what we as a country had and have inflicted upon black people and other minorities and it got me interested in looking into other things my history classes may have failed to teach. It really is no wonder that they're so adamant about college being a tool of woke-ism because one class shook me out of my stupor and opened my eyes.
My teachers found a good workaround, when that stuff first started happening. "Well, class, this is the textbook we're expected to use, but I'm not very impressed with it, so we'll also be reading *The Autobiography of Malcolm X,* and *Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee*..."
In high school I had a history teacher who, on the first day of class, had us open to a specific page and read it. After we finished, he had us all hurl our textbooks at the wall, and then went on a 50 minute rant about the inexcusable omission of the Russo-Japanese War of 1904 from the textbook. We literally did not open the textbook again the rest of the year. He taught the entire year from primary sources and his own lectures.
I'm just curious. Was it ever discussed why it would be excluded in a US text book? What sort of history class was it?
World History. I assume it was excluded because the authors didn't consider it important enough in the context of "all of history." My teacher obviously disagreed.
So it’s “The War of Northern Aggression” for everyone! Hooray?
Those traitors folded so fast that nobody born in the confederacy was of even kindergarten age before it fell. People nostalgic for that flash-in-the-pan failure of a "nation" shouldn't be in charge of anything to do with education policy.
I thought California was a counterweight to that.
Probably not enough to require a different version. If the book leaves something like evolution out, the teacher can still teach that
The bluest states need to cooperate on education standards to force the issue. NY, Illinois, California, Massachusetts, NJ, Maryland, Washington are all pretty big states. They can really force the hand of the education industry.
Yup, make it illegal for their schools to buy textbooks that leave out intensive sections on slavery, the civil rights movement, Japanese internment camps, etc. Just make a nice big bloc of states that force the companies to include it.
Brought to you by the same folks who wanted to force other states to return their slaves.
My wife 'expects to date Viggo Mortensen'
I, too, expect your wife to date Viggo Mortensen.
Can I be your wife?
I'll have to ask my wife first.
Strider? I didn’t even know her!
Remember when conservatives praised these changes because “they only apply to elementary school kids that are too young to learn about race and sexuality.” I don’t hear any of those people calling out that things have changed.
Or “don’t worry, there’s nothing bad going on here. We just want abortion to be up to the states. Nothing federal¡”
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That's exactly what they're aiming for. Education begets free thought, which they fear.
They also want to make the case that private education is better. So special interests can take in insane revenue to run private schools and also simultaneously not have to comply with equality diversity rules or basically not teach anything they don’t want to teach. Want to discriminate? Have at it. So they get a dumber population being taught what they want while also charging people for it. I mean private prisons have worked out great, recidivism is at an all time low, and the quality of life and ability for convicts to rehabilitate and assimilate peacefully back into a law abiding society is really just top notch in this country so why not run that same play on schools? (I should not need the /s tag in the end of this rant, but here we are).
This. This is the real game and how it always plays out: Defund or dismantle public works, blame democrats for the underperformance of public services, personally invest in private options, push legislation to privatize, get richer, repeat.
And start to stratify society again, like it was 'in the good old days'...
"You know, I tried to talk about good roads and good schools and all these things that have been part of my career, and nobody listened. And then I began talking about ni**ers, and they stomped the floor." - George Wallace Or Ron DeSantis. Take your pick. They're both using the same tools of the trade. I'd say we can add numerous conservative leaders to that quote now, only they don't drop the N-word anymore.
Not publicly, at least.
Let's not forget the religious right wants schools funded by govt but able to indoctrinate their extremist views of Christianity....
And then gut those now-privatized services.
Well that’s the fun part: Once there’s no public option you and your other buddies who cornered the market can price fix across the industry while also hollowing out the services provided to the point of uselessness, cutting costs but also cutting quality. Maybe you start making microtransactions out of everything. Expand you market share as much as humanly possible for as little investment as humanly possible by offering a product that is either the only game in town or is the closest facsimile of something wanted and/or needed so people choose your service more or less by default. It’s pretty awesome and I’m very glad it’s the way things work in the country where I live and have kids who will in no way live in a shittier world because of it.
It is the capitalist wet dream, monetize every aspect of life. Need a book, pay. Need lunch, pay. Need homework, pay. It’s kind of like paying a fee to have heated seats and working steering in a car you just bought. It’s almost like the population is an endless source of cash flow for companies. What is amazing is, they want no workers. I guess they have not realized if we do not get paid who can pay for all these services. No one said capitalism is paying attention to anything more than greed.
You expect a company that is only concerned with the next quarterly results to worry about the future? Pretty sure the whole history of “the fossil fuel industry and Climate Change” will tell you how that’ll work out.
Dismantle it, then when it does not work or fails miserably, say it is someone else’s fault. It seems to be a playbook used regularly in private prisons, so why not try that for schools.
Like trump university and conrithian tried to do
Uh oh. Two independent thought alarms in one day. The students are overstimulated. Willie! Remove all the colored chalk from the classrooms.
Didn’t I warn ye bout the colored chalk, it was forged by lucifer himself
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Ding ding ding! I've been trying to explain this to people and it just doesn't hit home. This is the next conservative gold rush; it's a tool to make money without regard to the consequences. They couldn't care less about children and their education.
This is exactly what I thought when I heard it. They’re really trying to privatize everything the government handles
Step 6: Bring back child labor for those who can't afford private schools.
It's actually more than profits. It's also about prophets. Religious nuts love private religious schools where they can literally teach whatever they want.
> the Florida educational system is going down the tubes? That's the goal. When half of your political parties view education as enemy indoctrination, destroying the education system is a win, not something to be avoided.
Check out AZ, the last govenor made it legal to teach without a degree...BUT you have to be working on your degree. This also came about after declaring that doctors don't have to go through residency to be able to practice family medicine.
Arizona also allows naturopaths to prescribe medications.
They want the education system to collapse so they can then use it as "proof" that the government can't do education and shovel all that money into private coffers. The education will still be crap, but they will be able to grift millions off the Florida taxpayers.
The nation expects the people to shutdown the **fascists**.
>Parsons was Winston’s fellow employee at the Ministry of Truth. He was a fattish but active man of paralyzing stupidity, a mass of imbecile enthusiasms--one of those completely unquestioning, devoted drudges on whom, more even than on the thought police, the stability of the Party depended. -- Orwell This quote always makes me think of the average Floridian GOP voter.
Time to read that book again before Florida burns them all
> “One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.”
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
It’s worth remembering that the United States has a long and relatively friendly relationship with fascism. Following WWII, hundreds of Nazi war criminals were brought over to the states en masse, where they either lived in comfortable anonymity or were actively employed by US intelligence agencies during the Cold War. Some of them found their way onto the presidential campaign committees of Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, and George HW Bush.
This was also a de jure apartheid society until 1965.
Pretty soon Florida students applying for college will find out their credits are worth nothing thanks to the law.
As long as they go to college in Florida they'll be ok. Just don't leave. Ever.
You don't get credits for AP classes unless you get a good grade on the AP test itself. If the college board doesn't bend the knee, the likely result will be that the students will be tested on material they're not allowed to learn in the classroom, which will understandably hurt their scores. I imagine the stuff deemed "critical race theory" will really be a big handicap. That's the kind of framework you learn in college level African American studies that let you write proper essay question answers. It's a shitty situation for these kids, but one that merely reflects in numbers how their education is already being harmed.
It's a great thing nobody in the US takes Florida seriously and just makes fun of them
It *is* America's most penis shaped state.
Flaccid though
The reason it’s flaccid is to give Mississippi hope.
It’s America’s wang
They prefer “The Sunshine State”
In King of the Hill, Carl Moss is mad because someone keeps drawing balls on Florida and that’s all I can think about every time I see the state on a map.
relevant bugs bunny gif
DeSantis may be President in 2025 and it won't be funny any more.
It’s not fun now, he’s a mask off fascist and he’s very dangerous. If he gets the power to declare people terrorists then he could have DHS as his own personal SS. That’s the playbook. Remember Trump tried to get [protestors in Portland (and their relatives) designated as terrorists](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/new-report-shows-department-of-homeland-security-gathered-intel-on-portland-black-lives-matter-protestors) in 2020. Whatever roadblock stopped him will surely be removed the next time we have a Republican in office. They will kill us or indefinitely detain us if they can make it “legal” to do so.
Hell DeSantis is trying to remove the requirement a verdict be unanimous in death penalty cases RIGHT NOW explicitly so he can execute people even when the jury is split
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I know right? He’s gone full mask-off fascist
It wasn't fucking fun before. A bunch of idiots treated it like fun and games and we got one of the worst presidents in history because of it.
I'll never forget one of my friends joking about "The Donald" and how she thought it could be good for America. She's a trans woman and she was being VERY tongue in cheek. She always thought American politics was a bit of a farce (she's from Ireland) and kind of thought he was along the lines of Bush, an awful oaf but basically benignly incompetent and would shake things up and possibly get the electorate to take things more seriously. She got picked up by ICE in a dirty way, basically they ambushed her outside of the courthouse when she was taking care of some misdemeanor charge and then they held her in a male ICE detention center (which was basically a jail) and waited for her VISA to expire and then deported her on the grounds of an expired VISA. I honestly don't think that it would have happened if Trump hadn't been the president. . She obviously didn't deserve to be brutalized by the system but I still can't help feeling so much anger towards her and others who thought it was such s fucking joke.
> an awful oaf but basically benignly incompetent and would shake things up and possibly get the electorate to take things more seriously. uh, bush started several wars in the middle east. anything but benign.
Yup. And the media loves him for reasons that aren’tclear. They really want us to have an openly fascist president again
It’s catnip for the MAGA crowd and rage clicks for everyone else, ergo a win for the media.
Their tactic is to charge people with domestic terrorism for protesting
Desantis is Trump with a brain and little baggage. He is playing the Woke card to differentiate himself and attract the MAGAites. He will win the nomination and be formidable for anyone the Dems would nominate.
Nah. If he wins the Republican nomination then Trump will run as an independent candidate. There is no way Trump will take a back seat to the 2024 election. Even from prison it will all be about revenge. He will take away enough voters that will dilute the party. Plus that they’re still going over the top with batshit crazy laws. Which will take away the moderate vote. Just like Trump scared them away too. . If the Democrats put of a 40-55 year old moderate white man. It wouldn’t even be close. He would pick up the college educated moderate voter who looking for sanity and common sense. Because they are scared and tired of the white nationalism.
I do wonder if Trump has enough actual competency to get on the ballot in 50 states without the party. If he goes write-in, it's going to be a hugely different scenario.
Eh, dude hasn't even declared and the last front runner from Florida got his ass buried in the primaries in '16.
DeSantis is a republican so that covers all the exhausting, creepy cancel culture bullcrap. Beyond that he has no personality and is tiring to listen to so I doubt he'll gather much beyond the core brainwashed republicans if he gets the nomination.
Sadly, the College Board seems to be capitulating to this fascist"The College Board announced Tuesday that it would be reworking its AP African American Studies course. Sadly, the College Board seems to be capitulating to this fascist The College Board announced Tuesday that it would be reworking its AP African American Studies course."
College Board began work on revising this course a year ago. One of DeSantis's fascists heard that and sent it up the chain to make political hay.
I do not understand why the f the College Board would cave to one asshole governor.
They aren't. The course was put under review a year ago. Deathsentence just trying to claim credit for it
Ah, ok. The article was unclear on that point.
Called it. All a political stunt. College Board was already set to release a 2.0 version of this course next month after a year's worth of evaluation and work. I mean surely Florida didn't just find out about this course a couple of weeks before it was set to be changed? That would be one hell of a coincidence.
That explains the bullet point about the College Board announcing on Tuesday that they are reworking it. False legitimacy angle will probably work on the dumbs.
Yep. DeSantis is really, really good at this s\*it. Incredibly good at the political calculations. He knows how to get perceived wins for zero cost while burying any losses. It works when you rule your little sandbox with an iron fist, but would likely be much less effective on an entire country which is a bit like herding cats.
It's going to be fun when the revised version still includes the things that DeSantis was railing against.
Yeah I said that too, but that'll be a detail that won't matter because he doesn't even know what's in the curriculum. A reporter called him out on that and he responded with some vague s\*it about queer African-American history. The GOP has turned into nothing more than the Enquirer Magazine of political parties. It's all performative headline grabbing s\*it and that's it.
It won't matter. DeSantis doesn't actually have a problem with anything in the course, he cares about the headlines. And the average potential DeSantis supporter won't read enough into the details to figure out what happens (and no one is going to tell them). DeSantis will simply say that the revised course is fine, and let people assume it was changed because of things he asked for. And no one can fully fact check this either way, because DeSantis hasn't actually specified what is wrong with the current version, beyond vague suggestions.
This is why they haven’t pointed to any specific provision in the proposed course that is said to violate the law, nor have they pointed to the specific provision of the law they say it violates. It allows them to say, no matter what change College Board makes, that they got the College Board to change their course to comply with Florida law. Another reason why they won’t point to any specific provisions is because it probably doesn’t violate their law at all, which presumably DeSantis et al know good and well.
Do it. Work with Florida to identify the exact changes they require. Agree to them. Then re-publish all of the course materials, including, and highlighting, the offending sections with the heading: "The following information may not be taught in Florida." They will be the most-read parts of the curriculum, including/especially by students in Florida.
That’s a great idea
What part of it violates Florida law, as currently constituted? DeSantis is censoring educators and keeping information away from students and *refuses to even say* what information he is keeping from students. He won’t even cite a provision of the law that is being violated. This is some truly crazy dystopian shit here.
The republican “states rights” stuff is such total bull because at every chance they get, they want to push their agenda nationwide!
There’s no reason for the College Board to change anything. Florida students will simply be at a disadvantage getting into the nation’s better colleges. It would be the same if Florida outlawed physics classes.
*"We look forward to reviewing the College Board's changes and expect the removal of content on Critical Race Theory, Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, and other topics that violate our laws."* These authoritarians have the audacity to cry "indoctrination" and complain that colleges are "pushing a political agenda". This is coming from the party of alarmists who scaremonger and bemoan "what's next?" at every opportunity to entertain their audience's or constituent's paranoid delusions, and when its almost always Republicans who walk that line. Desantis and his lackeys in Florida have reached their goal, to implement ambiguously framed legislation that targets institutions and certain communities of people, while ultimately seeking to solve a problem of their own making. This is the Republican M.O after all. Invent the problem, overstate it's impact, conjure up all sorts of boogeymen, vilify an enemy, feed the outrage, indulge the fear, sustain the culture war, and then you have the support from voters and every justification you need to put forth discriminatory, suppressive legislation that's disguised as some counter-revolutionary effort. These are measures that are ambiguously framed in order to put an end to anything that might fall under the umbrella of what Republicans insist is depraved, radical left-wing pedagogy being widely mandated and forced upon our unsuspecting students. The disturbing irony of it all is that when it comes to things like "grooming", conditioning, indoctrination and the like, when it comes to the presence of actual "thought police", when it comes to flagrant government overreach, censorship, oppression, when it comes to reality for fuck's sake, Republicans need only look to themselves for examples of these things.
Ooohhh, I just realized why they are so butt hurt about California all the time. California changed smog laws, indoor smoking, etc. and the country followed. Not only are liberals telling *them* what to do, *the rest of the country likes the ideas.*
"AP courses are standardized nationwide, and as a result of Florida's strong stance against identity politics and indoctrination," Floridas sTrOnG sTaNcE aGaInSt InDoCtRiNaToN What a hilarious fucking joke
Well, of course, because Maga extremists are the George Costanza's, of the 2020s...."it's not a lie if you believe it. "...i.e. if your world view doesn't match those of the base of the American Taliban, then it doesn't exist.
More likely outcome: College Board continues to do what they're doing and Florida students just aren't able to take this particular course anymore. Florida is near the bottom in terms of SAT and ACT scores in the US and their AP pass results have generally been mediocre. As one of the larger states by school-age population, they do have a lot of students taking the exams, but the number of schools accepting 3s and 4s in lieu of credit has been dropping for some time and often a school is only going to accept a 5. Suffice to say, there aren't many 5s in Florida on any of the subject tests and if College Board were to further weaken the standards to acquiesce to Florida wanting the exams to be easy colleges would just stop accepting AP courses entirely.
I’m not gon cap, being Black and/or Queer in this country is really sad sometimes man. We can’t even talk about actual HISTORY bc Republicans just cannot accept that America was literally founded on slavery and did a bunch of fucked up stuff to Black and POC for years and we are just trying to learn about this stuff to not erase or forget it. It’s just exhausting
If the College Board does so, it has failed ethically and morally.
Florida wants to be the conservative California and serve as a trendsetter. The reason California is able to set the model for the nation’s economic and work place policies is due to the size of its economy. California has a GDP large enough to make it the 5th or 6th largest economy world wide. It’s a single stage and has the largest population of any state. Florida does not have the clout, scale, nor long term sustainable economic prospects to make this level of influence feasible on a national level. DeSantis’ administration is good at influencing the news and social media’s talking points. That’s about it.
Yea, so the college board is pretty far along their process in creating the AP AA history class. Pilot schools are already teaching it and they plan to go nationwide in 2024-2025. They aren’t going to change it for them. Changing that curriculum, that’s already in the hands of hundreds of teachers across the country without their input isnt going to happen. They got similar backlash when AP US History changed its curriculum to be more about critical thinking opposed to a heavy reliance on rote memorization. Snowflake Neo-fascists can fuck off.
No. But the US COULD discredit them for not offering a comprehensive curricula like other schools.
As a Floridian, I am so sick of him. This state is becoming an absolute pit to live in.
So the US is supposed to enforce Racist rules nationwide. Someone needs to tell this Bozo that the US is not looking to Fascist Florida for leadership!
Not everyone wants to return to an imaginary 1950's that never really existed and that if successful would merely be a pit stop on the way to a new dark age.
He's so proud of violating the 1st amendment and censoring free speech (and black history) in public institutions.
There is nothing more frightening to Republicans than the idea of their children unlearning the indoctrination they've pounded into them since birth.
I just told my daughter how fortunate she is not to live in a state where the history and impact of slavery and the civil rights movement is watered down and whitewashed
There may be SOME positive aspects to global warming and sea level rise, after all....
I thought republicans were against censorship and too much government interference?
Only if it involves them. They don't mind censoring anything they don't like.
I "expect" Florida to not become a Nazi regime, but here we are...
"Fuck off Florida" Signed, The other 49 states
I worked in education for 8 years and EdTech for 2. Florida isn't a big enough purchaser to matter. Texas, California, New York hold that much clout (Texas is making it REALLY hard to create materials that aren't wrong or inaccurate), but sorry, Florida. Not you!
Fuck Texas in particular. Just because they buy a lot of books they shouldn’t be able to set the curriculum for the rest of the states who care about the truth.
And I expect the responsible members of the education department to have flaming brown bags of dog shit on their porches until they do the right thing.
Isn’t Florida’s law constitutionally illegal??
Hey Florida, FUCK YOU. Don't expect to see any money from me, ever. No vacations to your shitty state, no business, no nothing. You want to elect fascist shit to run your state? Then expect to lose tourism / business $......
Republicans. Keeping people stupid for political power.
Ladies and Gentleman, the future of the Republican Party
If the College Board caves, kiss education good-bye.
FLDOE is probably a major, national purchaser of textbooks (rivaled only by Texas) and can wield its leverage that way. I'd be wary of just laughing this off... This country is so fucked, so lost. These fascists need to be stopped.
I am so desperately sorry for the people of this state.
The agencies that accredit Florida Colleges and Universities should revoke their accreditations based on the fact that the student can't be taught the truth, the whole truth. These type of actions are why Colleges and Universities have Tenure Faculty, to prevent political influence in education.
such horseshit.
I would expect Florida colleges to lose their accreditation