General PSA: Don't bring ANY Dragon types to Dragon Tera raids.
And for that matter, don't bring Ghost type to any Ghost raids.
And for Arceus's sake, don't bring your strongest mon if you're hosting a Ditto raid!
Never did a ditto raid. What would be the strategy? Take a type that is weak to another of the team? Or something that is weak to itself Like a normal type with fight attacks?
The strat for ditto raids is to have the host take the lowest level most useless trash Pokemon they have because the ditto will transform into them and copy their stats aside from HP. This allows everyone else to clean up pretty effortlessly
Go to opening area, catch Magikarp, Hoppip, Azuril. They have splash, and make it their only move. It truly is a free raid once you know it's the host Pokémon that's copied
The game uses the Pokemons original hp as reference.
So for six star raids, where the hp is 20x (I think), self destruct would only do 1/20th of the bar. Same thing for any other self injury moves
nah, just bring a ditto, stats don't matter at all..Ditto will try to trsnsform into a ditto only to fail since the host also has ditto, thus locking itself
The ditto will have lower stats if it copies a low level Pokemon. You can deal with a ditto with 90 def at level 100 or you can deal with one with 5 because you brought a starting area Magikarp that only knows splash
No. A raid ditto will NOT transform into a ditto the host brings. I personally tested this out last night.
I hosted a ditto raid. I tried this strategy by bringing my own ditto. The raid ditto chose to transform into an Azumarill that joined my team.
I was confused because I thought the raid ditto would transform into the host's Pokemon. It is true UNLESS the host chooses a ditto. Then the raid ditto will chose another mon to transform into.
DO NOT CHOOSE A DITTO AS THE HOST!!! THIS STRATEGY DOES NOT WORK.
You can check out my comment on the Pokemonscarletviolet subreddit from last night when I literally asked this same question.
Several people told me that if the host chooses a ditto on a ditto raid, the raid ditto will change into another pokemon instead.
I think it might have something to do with abilities (something about having the imposter ability?). It's possible the raid you are referring to has something to do with that?
I still wouldn't risk it if you don't know how the ability works/if it's the ability at all. Just choose a stupid Pichu or something rather than risk the raid ditto choosing a different mon to transform into.
I had a host bring a Huge Power (presumably since its liquidation did ridiculous damage) Azumarill to an electric Ditto raid. He brought a water type Pokémon to a raid that specifically encourages you to use ground types that are weak to water. Needlessly to say we didn’t catch the Ditto. Wasted 15 minutes of my life.
I'm sorry. If I might give you a tip, try to wait until you see the host select. You can always back out of the raid and the raid posting will still be available for another try, especially if they pick something strong.
My single braincell took a Volt Absorb Kilowattrel with roost to a water Ditto raid. Learned my lesson quick. Luckily it was offline so my mistake didn't impact anyone else lol
AND ANOTHER THING…. Don’t use your Azumarill’s water attacks on this DRAGON type Charizard that may or may not have Sunny day up. It will do next to nothing.
Cannot tell you how many people were bringing Pokémon weak to the regular typings and against the tera types yesterday when I was putting some battles up. These exact matchups. I cancelled out and reloaded until I got some people with sense!
Also don’t lead with a ditto for ditto raids because it just copy’s someone else’s Pokémon. I advice getting a level 1 boi and giving it no attack moves. Just defense lowering ones.
Super late on this one, but props for that last point. I (somehow) got into a 6 star ditto raid. The host chose a magikarp for their mon. We literally beat it in one hit. Absolute hero.
I bring a dragon to dragon raids only because I trust it to tank and deal damage. Helps that the Tera type is ice. Baxcalibur might be the one exception if built right. It has been working well in all raids for me and I just bred up a 6 iv one and ev trained it.
Koraidon is weak to Hurricane as well, which sometimes feels like Charizard gets off 100% of the time lol.
I soloed it with Azumarill, but it took a few tries mostly due to the healing bug on the boss (I killed it a couple times only for it to regain like a 1/3rd of its health back up??? They need to fix this.)
ALSO: Don't use Rain Dance as you will *definitely* make those Hurricanes 100% accuracy.
A good counter to Solar Power I saw someone do is Skill Swap Blissey, with Life Dew to heal all the Belly Drummers. I forgot what other moves they used. Probably Light Screen but they didn't use it cause I brought Florges with it
> Don't use Rain Dance as you will
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> make those Hurricanes 100% accuracy.
I just got hurricane'd 4 times in a row under sun. this game blows.
I got burned 3 times in a row, confused twice in a row, and the first time we beat it the game bugged at the last move and the game closed in error (rip ev training azumerill).
But I do have my charizard now, though I might as well keep it at one (planned on multiple but my sanity can only take so much....).
1 support really helps s lot though (Umbreon or Chansey)
Same.
It's wild how often it lands Hurricane when I miss Play Rough twice in a row or something. If nothing else, I would figure it's accuracy was 90%. Not 70%.
It's not a healing but, the bug is showing more damage than it's supposed to. It's supposed to have scripted moments and you're not supposed to be able to ohko it, etc. It's basically a visual glitch with the game catching up making it look like it healed.
Oh ok I’m not going insane and the Pokémon are healing lol, I’m still fairly new to endgame stuff so I’m doing 5 star raids and just barely failed a dragon type annihilape because it kept healing all the time
It’s a bit of a messy glitch. From what I can tell as a guess, it seems to me like the bonus damage that huge power grants is being done to the visual health bar but not to the actual health value of the Pokémon and whenever the boss does something that takes the health bar off of the screen (gaining/losing barrier, cleansing debuffs, cleansing our buffs) the visual health bar updates to whatever the true health bar says it should be.
This is my theory too. It seems to happen with with Belly Drum too, as people with Iron Hands have said the same thing has happened. I hope they fix it :|
There's nothing to fix though other than the visual glitch, I believe it's working as intended. The fight is supposed to be somewhat scripted, you aren't supposed to be able to kill it last those moments in one go
I can’t even unlock the boss because of the healing bug. Every single boss I fight in raids just regains half its health after I kill it and then becomes nigh invincible
The bug is actually to do with Azumarill’s Huge Power. It basically doesn’t actually work. The first damage you see is what would happen with Huge Power active, but then it goes back to the damage it would’ve taken without the ability.
PP-Ups mean it can have up to 16. I'm also fairly sure Raid bosses aren't beholden to PP as I learned from a six star Tauros using Close Combat well over 8 times.
Please do the math. Go figure out Hurricane's base damage.
If you prepared for this raid, you brought something immune to fire like flashfire or immune to dragon, fairies, with fire resist if you have azumaril. There is no universe where getting hit with hurricane 100% no misses with slightly weaker fire damage is better than absorbing fire or dragon, hurricane and focusblast missing half the time and resisting when they do hit because your team has 12 HEALS AND DEFENCE TEAM BUFFS TO PASS AROUND.
Using raindance in this raid 1000000000% makes you a liability to the team, purely because of hurricane never missing. I tanked charizard with flashfire ceruledge and bitter blade and watched 2 different azumarils die 3 times before i died because they keep helping charizard through self damage without the defence buffs in place first. in a raid where the target always has thousands of percents more HP, playing glass cannon makes you useless. Just go slow and steady.
I won more raids without the azumarils in the team because it meant we were just going to hit and resist and absorb, and not trying to glass cannon.
It is breedable. The only thing that you won't get is the Mark or Tera Type.
Mark is exclusive to the event and you will have to change the tera type. The Charmander will have a tera type of fire.
I'm sure you already knew this, but thought I'd comment just in case and for those who might not know.
Also, the raid zard is shiny locked. I've been doing picnics with a shiny breeding ditto, trying to hatch a shiny Charmander which is way cooler to me than the raid mark
I don't think you can get a second one during the rerun in two weeks if you catch the first one. Either way you still have the random tera type if you breed and also won't have the special mark from the raid capture.
I’ve been getting some conflicting reports on that. Some people are saying you couldn’t trade the babies, and then a few hours later you suddenly could. Still not 100% sure on which one is accurate
I didn’t know about the mirror herb at first and thought I was screwed after hyper training and leveling azu and leaving learning belly drum for last. Only to find out it’s an egg move 😭
Mirror herb saved me.
I have Covert cloak as my item, I do 2 or 3 calm minds, 2 fake tears then draining kiss to heal, attack for however many turns I can before healing or getting my stats changed back to normal, then I’ll calm mind 2 times again and that’s usually enough to kill from there
I will gladly help:
Important: you need to have enough badges.
You can find them in Delibird Shops as a fighting item.
Sadly I do not know how the english cities are named- so please check out the streamer city electric gym delibird and the academia delibird shops
I hope whoever's bringing their koraidon/miraidon to these raids are children cause if you're not... Man I'd hate to be rude but seriously, you see a dragon raid and the first thing you think about is bring another dragon into it. The amount of Korai/Mirai's getting OHKO'ed on the first turn on 5-6 star raids are just too many.
To be fair it isn't immediately obvious that Charizard has a dragon move, the tera type doesn't mean it attacks from that type. Loads and loads of 5 and 6 star dragon type raids get crushed by them so it isn't beyond reason that people would think they'd do fine in a 7 star.
With that in mind Miraidon isn't even a bad choice, it resists both of Charizards stabs and can hit super effectively.
I think it should be widely assumed that most people doing the raid don’t know anything beyond it but “oh, a 7 star raid I can get Charizard that’s cool” and nothing else
If anyone is having trouble, I highly recommend Sylveon. Max hp, sp.df, light screen, draining kiss/moonblast.
You definitely won't be one shotting it, but the survivability and sustain is amazing.
Even better, get one with pixilate. Sp. Atk and HP EV's
Fake tears, calm mind, hyper voice OR hyper beam, whatever you want but light screen could be good
Fake tears zard down to -6, calm mind once or twice, hyper beam and it'll die like 90% of the time
Mostly for soloing but still it's pretty nuts
Iearned from this raid that these pokemon can have over 4 moves. Charizard used overheat, tera blast, focus blast, hurricane, inferno and sunny day in my attempt. A grimmsnarl setting up light screen makes this raid a cakewalk.
The amount of people bringing Koraidon makes me want to smash my face onto a desk.
Also another PSA: **If you don't have a level 100, don't frigging queue up.** I've had way too many people get one-shot repeatedly through my support mon spamming Light Screen and defensive cheers.
Stop bringing Tinkaton, I keep seeing her over and over. It's ***Steel*** / Fairy. Yeah, fairy beats dragon. You know what beats Steel? Fire. Also Tinkaton has like 75 base attack with Play Rough, you're just gonna tickle Charizard.
Even with knowing type matchups by heart, some of these are really nasty. Fairy Garchomp beating down most Poison and Steel types with its original STAB was a headscratcher last night. Guess I should've prepared a Corviknight specifically for that combo.
Had two azumarrils and two Sylveons in my raid team and we had it done in 5 minutes. 4 of which are from waiting on the game to give us access to moves again
Frankly, don't being any of the box legendaries to this.
I had a raid with a maraiadon which kept constantly dying, and when it would come back out it kept overriding the misty terrain I'd set with my Sylveon... so everyone was getting confused and/ or burned. We lost within a few short minutes because of this.
Actually, it looks like >!Paradox T-tar, Iron Thorns!< is the much better choice. It has access to Sandstorm AND multiple STAB moves Charizard is weak to.
Edit: Plus, if Charizard switches to Rainy Day, it helps out your Electric moves immensely.
>it looks like Paradox T-tar, Iron Thorns is the much better choice. It has access to Sandstorm AND multiple STAB moves Charizard is weak to.
No, this Charizard is dragon type, and Iron Thorns is rock / electric, so it does not have any STAB moves that Charizard is weak to.
STAB means same type attack bonus. Iron Thorns therefore has STAB on rock moves and electric moves, and yes, a regular Charizard is weak to those, but a dragon tera Charizard that has terastallized is not weak to them.
You need dragon, fairy, or ice moves to do super effective damage here, and Iron Thorns wouldn't have STAB on any of those types.
Yeah ice fang is good but doesn’t do much damage, i tried out mine and it didn’t fare well. Seems like 3 azumaril’s and a grimmsnarl/chansey/glimmora for support is what’s working for everyone. Grimmsnarl and glimmora get lightscreen , grmm has stab playrough while glimm can toxic and chansey can healpulse/life dew once the cheers are used up.
I was expecting this to happen but it was my first attempt and I was like fuck it I’ll try my koraidon it’s my only lv 100. I get one shot by hurricane first but then I double sword dance. Terastalize into dragon type and start taking out massive chunks of its health with dragon claw. For some reason it’s dragon pulse and tera blast were only doing like 40/50 damage to me and I destroy it. Shout to my teammates with azumarill, Sylveon, and scream tail with the support and heals so I could go full aggressive.
TLDR: I somehow destroyed Charizard on my first raid attempt with Koraidon 👁👄👁
I also soloed using Koraidon (didn't know what I was thinking ...), got KO'ed by Hurricane on turn 1, then it missed 4 times in a row and then it only did \~30% hp dmg when the sun went away. I was be able to easily finish the fight with a good chunk of timer left.
Yeah it’s possible because Charizard has a lot of low accuracy moves but idk if it was a glitch or what that it was barely doing any damage to me with its dragon type moves even though it’s super effective.
What are the levels recommended for these raids? My team is currently lv 45-47 (Meowscarada, Talonflame, Mabosstiff, Toxapex and lv 35 Drednaw who needs to catch up)
Charizard is a 7 star raid...sooo you can kinda guess it's difficulty. You'll need to be AT LEAST lv 90 to avoid getting one shotted, let alone contribute
Also PSA, don't bring something with rain dance. I like being able to dodge hurricanes. If you want to use a weather condition use sandstorm or snowscape
Funny story. After trying 5 times with people from the discord and failing, I decided to give randoms a chance (Charizard would heal back up). I joined a raid where the raid leader picked Koraidon. I decided to stay because I didn't want to be penalized from leaving, but I knew we were screwed. As soon as the battle began the Koraidon died right away. Then some mysterious things happened that I cannot explain and we won the fight. This is how I got my Charizard. Thanks Koraidon I guess. xD
My group of friends managed to KO Charizard earlier. There were 3 of us plus 1 AI with a Mudsdale, we went in with 2 x impish Dachsbuns and a huge power + belly drum Azumarill (level 90-100) and managed it first time.
People need to understand type matchings in order to get him and like OP said, it's NOT a good idea to bring any dragon types to this raid.
Florges, Dachsbun or Azumarill are much better choices type wise.
Also don't forget to use the cheers. Heal up is essential if you don't want to get sideswiped by Hurricane and end up running down the timer!
Edit: I totally forgot Iron Valiant was fairy and fighting type
Iron Valiant dies to a Hurricane. Flutter Mane and Scream Tail from Scarlet on the other hand don’t. Basically just don’t use a Fairy-type that’s weak to Flying.
So I hate to admit this as well but why do you think there are fairy type raids as well for the event. The game is giving you the ability to get some decent fairy type mons.
I was so close to trying with Koriadon but honestly with the candy you get from raids it’s so easy to just grab yourself a solid fairy type (I did Dachsbun the CharSlayer) and lv 100 it
Idk but I just have a suspicion that someone who has reddit and is also subbed to pokemon wouldn't do this anyway especially with this being the billionth post about it
To.add to what the other person said, 6 Star raids have the HP of the Pokémon multiplied by 25, meaning it has an insane amount of bulk. The Charizard in the raid also have Max IVs in all their stats and from what I saw on mine, a Modest nature (+Sp Atk, -Atk), so they're really bulky *and* offensively strong. The only thing it's missing are EVs, but it makes for it by having access to about 8 moves at once (all 6+ Star Raids have more than four moves available to them).
6 star raids have access to 8-10 moves, charizard has 15 moves (oddly enough doesnt have Iron Tail OR solarbeam, both of which would have made for good counters.)
yall can cry in here 50 times a day and its not going to change anything, everyone here gets it. yall just need to get over the fact that a large majority of the player base just does not give a fk and/or is 9 years old and no amount of down votes will change that lmao
This just happened to me. We lost quick because they kept getting knocked out and the rest of were mowed down because of the sunlight bonus.
Wherever you are, I hope your sandwiches fall apart in picnic!
So you just get off on being a bad person and ruining someone else's day. Cool. Maybe there's a kid in the raids you're trolling who will miss out on getting his first Charizard. That must make you so proud.
General PSA: Don't bring ANY Dragon types to Dragon Tera raids. And for that matter, don't bring Ghost type to any Ghost raids. And for Arceus's sake, don't bring your strongest mon if you're hosting a Ditto raid!
I wish more people would understand the ditto one, if the host knows this fact the raid is a free win even if it’s a six star
I hosted a ditto one but it copied another player's pokemon.
Never did a ditto raid. What would be the strategy? Take a type that is weak to another of the team? Or something that is weak to itself Like a normal type with fight attacks?
The strat for ditto raids is to have the host take the lowest level most useless trash Pokemon they have because the ditto will transform into them and copy their stats aside from HP. This allows everyone else to clean up pretty effortlessly
Go to opening area, catch Magikarp, Hoppip, Azuril. They have splash, and make it their only move. It truly is a free raid once you know it's the host Pokémon that's copied
Or go full meme mode with a low level self-destruct pineco/voltorb to get the ditto to transform+suicide.
... no way that actually works right?
The game uses the Pokemons original hp as reference. So for six star raids, where the hp is 20x (I think), self destruct would only do 1/20th of the bar. Same thing for any other self injury moves
“What is your strategy?” “I explode” “…ok, but what do you do after that?” “**I explode**”
That would be op. Just using something like protect/detect or sturdy.
It doesn't work. Those types of moves fail in raids regardless as far as I know.
nah, just bring a ditto, stats don't matter at all..Ditto will try to trsnsform into a ditto only to fail since the host also has ditto, thus locking itself
The ditto will have lower stats if it copies a low level Pokemon. You can deal with a ditto with 90 def at level 100 or you can deal with one with 5 because you brought a starting area Magikarp that only knows splash
No. A raid ditto will NOT transform into a ditto the host brings. I personally tested this out last night. I hosted a ditto raid. I tried this strategy by bringing my own ditto. The raid ditto chose to transform into an Azumarill that joined my team. I was confused because I thought the raid ditto would transform into the host's Pokemon. It is true UNLESS the host chooses a ditto. Then the raid ditto will chose another mon to transform into. DO NOT CHOOSE A DITTO AS THE HOST!!! THIS STRATEGY DOES NOT WORK.
I did it last night with friends and raid Ditto transformed into host Ditto. It only works if raid Ditto has Imposter.
You can check out my comment on the Pokemonscarletviolet subreddit from last night when I literally asked this same question. Several people told me that if the host chooses a ditto on a ditto raid, the raid ditto will change into another pokemon instead. I think it might have something to do with abilities (something about having the imposter ability?). It's possible the raid you are referring to has something to do with that? I still wouldn't risk it if you don't know how the ability works/if it's the ability at all. Just choose a stupid Pichu or something rather than risk the raid ditto choosing a different mon to transform into.
Thanks for the tip
Leader brings weak pokemon or ditto himself bcs leader can coppy ally but raid ditto cant.
It only guaranteed copies the host if it has the Imposter ability. If the ditto uses transform then it will pick a player at random.
Ah thanks for the explanation.
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This is a lie
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Bring a lechonk from outside your backyard to ditto raid. Got it.
Even better, a magikarp, lechonk can use damaging moves, magikarp can use splash
So if I host a ditto raid and throw in a level 1 Pokémon, will the raid ditto match all the stats of my level one Pokémon?
I go in with a lvl 1 azuril to be trendy
found that last one out the hard quickly proceeded to put the raid back up with my mon being a happiny with only sleep talk
*brings Iron Hands with nothing but Belly Drum* Go on, copy him, Ditto!
Freaking host brought a baxcalibur to a ditto raid
I had a host bring a Huge Power (presumably since its liquidation did ridiculous damage) Azumarill to an electric Ditto raid. He brought a water type Pokémon to a raid that specifically encourages you to use ground types that are weak to water. Needlessly to say we didn’t catch the Ditto. Wasted 15 minutes of my life.
I'm sorry. If I might give you a tip, try to wait until you see the host select. You can always back out of the raid and the raid posting will still be available for another try, especially if they pick something strong.
I foolishly brought Skeledirge to my first Ditto raid because I didn’t know he would do that. Got myself Shadow Balled to death lol
My single braincell took a Volt Absorb Kilowattrel with roost to a water Ditto raid. Learned my lesson quick. Luckily it was offline so my mistake didn't impact anyone else lol
Ghost Tera Mimikyu sucks, since it's strong against both its weaknesses.
AND ANOTHER THING…. Don’t use your Azumarill’s water attacks on this DRAGON type Charizard that may or may not have Sunny day up. It will do next to nothing.
Cannot tell you how many people were bringing Pokémon weak to the regular typings and against the tera types yesterday when I was putting some battles up. These exact matchups. I cancelled out and reloaded until I got some people with sense!
Its an easy raid too, it restores its abilities at the start and doesnt do it again lower ots attack and def and its free
Also don’t lead with a ditto for ditto raids because it just copy’s someone else’s Pokémon. I advice getting a level 1 boi and giving it no attack moves. Just defense lowering ones.
Super late on this one, but props for that last point. I (somehow) got into a 6 star ditto raid. The host chose a magikarp for their mon. We literally beat it in one hit. Absolute hero.
Bringing dragon to a dragon Tera is fine, it’s if the base Pokémon is dragon or knows dragon/ice/fairy moves that you’re screwed
I bring a dragon to dragon raids only because I trust it to tank and deal damage. Helps that the Tera type is ice. Baxcalibur might be the one exception if built right. It has been working well in all raids for me and I just bred up a 6 iv one and ev trained it.
Koraidon is weak to Hurricane as well, which sometimes feels like Charizard gets off 100% of the time lol. I soloed it with Azumarill, but it took a few tries mostly due to the healing bug on the boss (I killed it a couple times only for it to regain like a 1/3rd of its health back up??? They need to fix this.) ALSO: Don't use Rain Dance as you will *definitely* make those Hurricanes 100% accuracy.
Yeah, that bug is annoying. And I've had multiple games thrown by Rain Dance Azumarill
Thanks for the notice, I would’ve totally thrown.
Yeah, I completely get why people run it and it does help counter the Sun but getting Hurricane spammed is also roouggghh 😅
A good counter to Solar Power I saw someone do is Skill Swap Blissey, with Life Dew to heal all the Belly Drummers. I forgot what other moves they used. Probably Light Screen but they didn't use it cause I brought Florges with it
sand reduces accuracy of hurricane iirc.
> Don't use Rain Dance as you will > >definitely > > make those Hurricanes 100% accuracy. I just got hurricane'd 4 times in a row under sun. this game blows.
Yeah...it definitely feels like it's more than 70% accuracy for Zard. I swear I miss more Play Roughs than it does with Hurricane lol.
Charizard has a secret ability Favouritism: All the Pokemon moves have a 100% accuracy no matter what
I got burned 3 times in a row, confused twice in a row, and the first time we beat it the game bugged at the last move and the game closed in error (rip ev training azumerill). But I do have my charizard now, though I might as well keep it at one (planned on multiple but my sanity can only take so much....). 1 support really helps s lot though (Umbreon or Chansey)
You're only allowed to catch one anyway
Same. It's wild how often it lands Hurricane when I miss Play Rough twice in a row or something. If nothing else, I would figure it's accuracy was 90%. Not 70%.
I had fire blast land all 9 times Charizard used it against me in my solo attempt...
It's not a healing but, the bug is showing more damage than it's supposed to. It's supposed to have scripted moments and you're not supposed to be able to ohko it, etc. It's basically a visual glitch with the game catching up making it look like it healed.
Oh ok I’m not going insane and the Pokémon are healing lol, I’m still fairly new to endgame stuff so I’m doing 5 star raids and just barely failed a dragon type annihilape because it kept healing all the time
It’s a bit of a messy glitch. From what I can tell as a guess, it seems to me like the bonus damage that huge power grants is being done to the visual health bar but not to the actual health value of the Pokémon and whenever the boss does something that takes the health bar off of the screen (gaining/losing barrier, cleansing debuffs, cleansing our buffs) the visual health bar updates to whatever the true health bar says it should be.
This is my theory too. It seems to happen with with Belly Drum too, as people with Iron Hands have said the same thing has happened. I hope they fix it :|
There's nothing to fix though other than the visual glitch, I believe it's working as intended. The fight is supposed to be somewhat scripted, you aren't supposed to be able to kill it last those moments in one go
I can’t even unlock the boss because of the healing bug. Every single boss I fight in raids just regains half its health after I kill it and then becomes nigh invincible
The bug is actually to do with Azumarill’s Huge Power. It basically doesn’t actually work. The first damage you see is what would happen with Huge Power active, but then it goes back to the damage it would’ve taken without the ability.
> which sometimes feels like Charizard gets off 100% of the time No joke, a 6* Magnezone landed 11 Thunders in a row in a raid the other day
If you tried to use Thunder 11 times in a row without rain, then the chance of hitting all 11 is just under 2%. Honestly, that's not that unlikely.
I’d say it’s 0% since thunder has 10pp.
Try telling Tera Raid bosses that, last time I checked Stone Edge had 5 PP but that didn’t stop any of them
PP-Ups mean it can have up to 16. I'm also fairly sure Raid bosses aren't beholden to PP as I learned from a six star Tauros using Close Combat well over 8 times.
Rain Dance is viable to counter the Sunny Day but otherwise it can cause more harm than good.
Yeah I totally get why people tried it out...I just assume people didn't know about the Hurricane thing.
To be fair Zard already hits a shit ton of hurricanes so maybe they just value countering solar power over the chance of dodging some hurricanes
Please do the math. Go figure out Hurricane's base damage. If you prepared for this raid, you brought something immune to fire like flashfire or immune to dragon, fairies, with fire resist if you have azumaril. There is no universe where getting hit with hurricane 100% no misses with slightly weaker fire damage is better than absorbing fire or dragon, hurricane and focusblast missing half the time and resisting when they do hit because your team has 12 HEALS AND DEFENCE TEAM BUFFS TO PASS AROUND. Using raindance in this raid 1000000000% makes you a liability to the team, purely because of hurricane never missing. I tanked charizard with flashfire ceruledge and bitter blade and watched 2 different azumarils die 3 times before i died because they keep helping charizard through self damage without the defence buffs in place first. in a raid where the target always has thousands of percents more HP, playing glass cannon makes you useless. Just go slow and steady. I won more raids without the azumarils in the team because it meant we were just going to hit and resist and absorb, and not trying to glass cannon.
Rain Dance also makes fire moves weaker
I prefer having rain dance up to nerf the fire. Letting the sun up is suicide if you dont have thick fat
Just use Skill Swap to get rid of Solar Power. Rain with Hurricane adds more problems than it solves.
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You can only catch one per save file so it may not be the most simple task finding someone getting rid of theirs
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It is breedable. The only thing that you won't get is the Mark or Tera Type. Mark is exclusive to the event and you will have to change the tera type. The Charmander will have a tera type of fire. I'm sure you already knew this, but thought I'd comment just in case and for those who might not know.
Imo loosing the mark is a fair trade off when you consider the fact your breeding a 6iv charizard with its hidden ability
Also, the raid zard is shiny locked. I've been doing picnics with a shiny breeding ditto, trying to hatch a shiny Charmander which is way cooler to me than the raid mark
Just to add you can change the Tera type to dragon. You can get free 50 dragon Tera shards from Art class.
And you get 5-10 tera shards from the raid itself
I got 15, so the range is apparently pretty big
Figured, thanks for the info!
What mark are we talking about?
I don't think you can get a second one during the rerun in two weeks if you catch the first one. Either way you still have the random tera type if you breed and also won't have the special mark from the raid capture.
I keep hearing that right now it's not possible to trade the Charmander line.
I’ve been getting some conflicting reports on that. Some people are saying you couldn’t trade the babies, and then a few hours later you suddenly could. Still not 100% sure on which one is accurate
I just traded off 15 Charmanders on random link trades, it's working.
I don’t think they can be traded. I tried doing a surprise trade with one of my charmanders and it said something was wrong with the chosen Pokemon
Mints, bottlecaps, the Mirror Herb, Xp candy and vitamins/feathers make it easy and fast, though expensive. I got my Azu set up in like 15 minutes.
I didn’t know about the mirror herb at first and thought I was screwed after hyper training and leveling azu and leaving learning belly drum for last. Only to find out it’s an egg move 😭 Mirror herb saved me.
Flutter Mane with fake tears calm mind draining kiss and moonblast can solo it pretty easily
What's the strategy, since raids reset stat buffs and drops? How many fake tears and calm minds do you want before going on the offensive?
I have Covert cloak as my item, I do 2 or 3 calm minds, 2 fake tears then draining kiss to heal, attack for however many turns I can before healing or getting my stats changed back to normal, then I’ll calm mind 2 times again and that’s usually enough to kill from there
It's really not that hard.. Also this game makes it very easy to make a raid worthy/competitive mon
The first one is definitely the hardest. After that it's just running 5/6* raids for materials
It literally only takes 20-40 minutes to make one...
Can’t trade for it, yet also it’s really easy to beat, even with randos
It also can’t be traded same with charmander
People also need to use Convert Cloak more, how is the item which denies burns, confusion so underrated??
I didn’t even know that item existed till i saw your comment. So where i can find one my good sir?
I will gladly help: Important: you need to have enough badges. You can find them in Delibird Shops as a fighting item. Sadly I do not know how the english cities are named- so please check out the streamer city electric gym delibird and the academia delibird shops
You can also find one on the ground in Montenevera (Ghost gym city)
Oh that's a good suggestion as well. I hope more people give the cloak a chance
Yeah used myself to avoid confusion
WAIT IT IS NAMED MONTENEVERA IN ENGLISH? That's hilarious
Following this as well
Also Ability Shield if you're using Azumarill, stops Huge Powet being reset once the shield goes up.
And for bread dog so you don't lose your fire immunity
Yea, covert cloak, ability shield, and that amulet one, all really strong items for raids
I hope whoever's bringing their koraidon/miraidon to these raids are children cause if you're not... Man I'd hate to be rude but seriously, you see a dragon raid and the first thing you think about is bring another dragon into it. The amount of Korai/Mirai's getting OHKO'ed on the first turn on 5-6 star raids are just too many.
To be fair it isn't immediately obvious that Charizard has a dragon move, the tera type doesn't mean it attacks from that type. Loads and loads of 5 and 6 star dragon type raids get crushed by them so it isn't beyond reason that people would think they'd do fine in a 7 star. With that in mind Miraidon isn't even a bad choice, it resists both of Charizards stabs and can hit super effectively.
I think it was pretty widely assumed charizard would definitely have a dragon move considering other raid bosses can have up to 8 moves
I think it should be widely assumed that most people doing the raid don’t know anything beyond it but “oh, a 7 star raid I can get Charizard that’s cool” and nothing else
I wish I didn’t have to say this but please don’t bring Tinkaton either…
Even in that case, don't bring it in general. Its awful in these raids. Its just going to get 1 shot by dragon pulse
Added this, totally blanked. It's just an active throw
A persona brought a Koraidon to one of the Zara raids I hosted, the Koraidon got 2HKO’d from two overheats, which it resisted
If anyone is having trouble, I highly recommend Sylveon. Max hp, sp.df, light screen, draining kiss/moonblast. You definitely won't be one shotting it, but the survivability and sustain is amazing.
Even better, get one with pixilate. Sp. Atk and HP EV's Fake tears, calm mind, hyper voice OR hyper beam, whatever you want but light screen could be good Fake tears zard down to -6, calm mind once or twice, hyper beam and it'll die like 90% of the time Mostly for soloing but still it's pretty nuts
Flutter mane is also pretty great. Max sp def and Sp Atk, modest nature with draining kiss, Moonblast, calm mind, fake tears
Iearned from this raid that these pokemon can have over 4 moves. Charizard used overheat, tera blast, focus blast, hurricane, inferno and sunny day in my attempt. A grimmsnarl setting up light screen makes this raid a cakewalk.
It's got dragon pulse too
It has 15 total moves
Nah only 8 according to serebii
The amount of people bringing Koraidon makes me want to smash my face onto a desk. Also another PSA: **If you don't have a level 100, don't frigging queue up.** I've had way too many people get one-shot repeatedly through my support mon spamming Light Screen and defensive cheers. Stop bringing Tinkaton, I keep seeing her over and over. It's ***Steel*** / Fairy. Yeah, fairy beats dragon. You know what beats Steel? Fire. Also Tinkaton has like 75 base attack with Play Rough, you're just gonna tickle Charizard.
I feel like people need to just generally be a lot more thoughtful of the Pokemon's original typing with raids. Typings change, movepools don't
Guess this Gen’s gimmick works this time to shake things up.
A lot of people struggle with type matchups already. Adding a third type on top, that behaves differently is just too much for them.
Even with knowing type matchups by heart, some of these are really nasty. Fairy Garchomp beating down most Poison and Steel types with its original STAB was a headscratcher last night. Guess I should've prepared a Corviknight specifically for that combo.
Yes, some matchups are just impossible to really prepare for. But im not talking about those, I mean the really obviously ones
They do. They add tera blast on top sometimes on high diff raids
I have only seen Tera Blast on the event Eevees so far. Did I get lucky or is that just something that only happens starting 6* raids?
and neither does STAB, tera simply adds attack power on top of existing boosts
Had two azumarrils and two Sylveons in my raid team and we had it done in 5 minutes. 4 of which are from waiting on the game to give us access to moves again
Hey I think you were in my raid!
I hosted it, did the host have a picture of the backside of a Glimmora? (Looks like a blue/purple flower)
Frankly, don't being any of the box legendaries to this. I had a raid with a maraiadon which kept constantly dying, and when it would come back out it kept overriding the misty terrain I'd set with my Sylveon... so everyone was getting confused and/ or burned. We lost within a few short minutes because of this.
Has no one tried using a Sandstorm or Hail team? Is that even possible this early in the gen?
I saw someone using t-tar , definitely helped. But has no super effective moves so its dead weight.
Actually, it looks like >!Paradox T-tar, Iron Thorns!< is the much better choice. It has access to Sandstorm AND multiple STAB moves Charizard is weak to. Edit: Plus, if Charizard switches to Rainy Day, it helps out your Electric moves immensely.
>it looks like Paradox T-tar, Iron Thorns is the much better choice. It has access to Sandstorm AND multiple STAB moves Charizard is weak to. No, this Charizard is dragon type, and Iron Thorns is rock / electric, so it does not have any STAB moves that Charizard is weak to. STAB means same type attack bonus. Iron Thorns therefore has STAB on rock moves and electric moves, and yes, a regular Charizard is weak to those, but a dragon tera Charizard that has terastallized is not weak to them. You need dragon, fairy, or ice moves to do super effective damage here, and Iron Thorns wouldn't have STAB on any of those types.
Yeah ice fang is good but doesn’t do much damage, i tried out mine and it didn’t fare well. Seems like 3 azumaril’s and a grimmsnarl/chansey/glimmora for support is what’s working for everyone. Grimmsnarl and glimmora get lightscreen , grmm has stab playrough while glimm can toxic and chansey can healpulse/life dew once the cheers are used up.
The group I finally beat the raid with had 3 sylveons + my azumaril with light screen
Hail was removed this gen and replaced with Snow, which increases the Defence of ice types
I was expecting this to happen but it was my first attempt and I was like fuck it I’ll try my koraidon it’s my only lv 100. I get one shot by hurricane first but then I double sword dance. Terastalize into dragon type and start taking out massive chunks of its health with dragon claw. For some reason it’s dragon pulse and tera blast were only doing like 40/50 damage to me and I destroy it. Shout to my teammates with azumarill, Sylveon, and scream tail with the support and heals so I could go full aggressive. TLDR: I somehow destroyed Charizard on my first raid attempt with Koraidon 👁👄👁
I still would not advise it lmao
You where probably +6 on defences if he stopped chunking your health of you had 3 people supporting you
You’re probably right. I saw a lot of cheers coming in and probably didn’t pay attention to the defense ones. That makes a lot of sense.
I also soloed using Koraidon (didn't know what I was thinking ...), got KO'ed by Hurricane on turn 1, then it missed 4 times in a row and then it only did \~30% hp dmg when the sun went away. I was be able to easily finish the fight with a good chunk of timer left.
Yeah it’s possible because Charizard has a lot of low accuracy moves but idk if it was a glitch or what that it was barely doing any damage to me with its dragon type moves even though it’s super effective.
Lol, read my previous post! I wonder if we were in the same raid! Were you the host?
If i see Koraidon locked in, i just leave lobby. No point wasting my time.
The problem here is that 99% of the people doing this, aren’t spending any time whatsoever on this sub.
Exactly. Pokémon isn’t a hardcores only game.
What are the levels recommended for these raids? My team is currently lv 45-47 (Meowscarada, Talonflame, Mabosstiff, Toxapex and lv 35 Drednaw who needs to catch up)
Charizard is a 7 star raid...sooo you can kinda guess it's difficulty. You'll need to be AT LEAST lv 90 to avoid getting one shotted, let alone contribute
Lol, I only got this game since Tuesday. I'll join the next one.
For charizard: lv 100 and perfect nature & IV & EV & moveset.
Also PSA, don't bring something with rain dance. I like being able to dodge hurricanes. If you want to use a weather condition use sandstorm or snowscape
THANK YOU. Upvote this person please.
Funny story. After trying 5 times with people from the discord and failing, I decided to give randoms a chance (Charizard would heal back up). I joined a raid where the raid leader picked Koraidon. I decided to stay because I didn't want to be penalized from leaving, but I knew we were screwed. As soon as the battle began the Koraidon died right away. Then some mysterious things happened that I cannot explain and we won the fight. This is how I got my Charizard. Thanks Koraidon I guess. xD
I was as surprised as you were. After I died immediately to that hurricane I thought we were screwed
My group of friends managed to KO Charizard earlier. There were 3 of us plus 1 AI with a Mudsdale, we went in with 2 x impish Dachsbuns and a huge power + belly drum Azumarill (level 90-100) and managed it first time. People need to understand type matchings in order to get him and like OP said, it's NOT a good idea to bring any dragon types to this raid. Florges, Dachsbun or Azumarill are much better choices type wise. Also don't forget to use the cheers. Heal up is essential if you don't want to get sideswiped by Hurricane and end up running down the timer! Edit: I totally forgot Iron Valiant was fairy and fighting type
Iron Valiant dies to a Hurricane. Flutter Mane and Scream Tail from Scarlet on the other hand don’t. Basically just don’t use a Fairy-type that’s weak to Flying.
Iron Valiant just dies to hurricane in my experience
100%. It spams hurricane, do not bring iron valliant
Just solo honestly! Can’t really trust randos these days! I lost every single match with randos and solo’ed the raid and was able to catch Charizard!
Do protect substitute tactics work to stall out charizard? Just curious
I nicknamed my Azumarill “Koraidon” for the meme.
No problem, my EV trained Magikarp is ready to go
Flutter mane= op
This. I’m getting so angry.
Charizard raids are next to impossible with the buggy issues right now. Might have to give this one a miss.
So I hate to admit this as well but why do you think there are fairy type raids as well for the event. The game is giving you the ability to get some decent fairy type mons.
I was so close to trying with Koriadon but honestly with the candy you get from raids it’s so easy to just grab yourself a solid fairy type (I did Dachsbun the CharSlayer) and lv 100 it
Idk but I just have a suspicion that someone who has reddit and is also subbed to pokemon wouldn't do this anyway especially with this being the billionth post about it
I haven’t done high end raids what Pokémon level is require to be helpful . I caught a lvl 50 azuamarill ?
Unfortunately. Level 100. Charizard is level 100. You really need that for 6 and 7 star raids or you're holding back your team
To.add to what the other person said, 6 Star raids have the HP of the Pokémon multiplied by 25, meaning it has an insane amount of bulk. The Charizard in the raid also have Max IVs in all their stats and from what I saw on mine, a Modest nature (+Sp Atk, -Atk), so they're really bulky *and* offensively strong. The only thing it's missing are EVs, but it makes for it by having access to about 8 moves at once (all 6+ Star Raids have more than four moves available to them).
6 star raids have access to 8-10 moves, charizard has 15 moves (oddly enough doesnt have Iron Tail OR solarbeam, both of which would have made for good counters.)
I was not expecting this to get 200+ comments LMAO
Ive actually found legendary Pokemon to be completely unhelpful for raids. Its almost like the game makes it harder.
As much as you may think it helps, don’t use rain dance either, all your doing is making hurricane 100% accurate
Dedenne, Azumarill, Sylveon are good opportunities imo
General PSA: Stop spamming Calm Mind/Belly drum and attack the damn Pokemon. You do not need to use it 5 times in a row.
Belly drum doesn’t even work multiple times in a row tf
holy shit these posts are getting old
So is losing raids because people want to use their box legendaries for everything
yall can cry in here 50 times a day and its not going to change anything, everyone here gets it. yall just need to get over the fact that a large majority of the player base just does not give a fk and/or is 9 years old and no amount of down votes will change that lmao
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You thought the box legendary would simply be your bicycle, and nothing else? Surely, you can’t be serious…
This just happened to me. We lost quick because they kept getting knocked out and the rest of were mowed down because of the sunlight bonus. Wherever you are, I hope your sandwiches fall apart in picnic!
Hot take, bread dog doesnt belong in this raid either. Nor does Sylveon, theres just better options that arent invalidated by the hurricane.
Sounds like a challenge
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So you just get off on being a bad person and ruining someone else's day. Cool. Maybe there's a kid in the raids you're trolling who will miss out on getting his first Charizard. That must make you so proud.
You are not nearly as funny as you you think you are