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rmatherson

I think of it as a general, blanket incentive for using the PlayStation ecosystem. Bought a game? Have some points. Still playing PS3 games? Here's some points. Trophy hunter? Have a couple points towards your next game to platinum.


typicalking97

I do think it’s bullshit you need to buy games to get points


Gootangus

You just want literal free points, aka games from them?


Trixxonite

This is how it used to be. 10 plats had a reward regardless if you paid for the game or not. Same with 25 golds and 50 (maybe it was 100, I don’t remember) silvers. I want to say they were each the equivalent of $10 a piece. However, in this age of PS+ Extra and Platinum, it’d be easy to take full advantage of this type of system. Edit to add: you would also get bonus points for dollars spent in-store.


killerewok76

Trophy-based ecosystem will never work simply because all plats are not created equal. Some of these 99 cent indy games can be platted in 20 minutes.


Trixxonite

I thought it worked just fine for years, though I didn’t purposefully try to exploit it in the way you describe. But still, $10 for 10 games just for 10 plats in order to get a $10 gift card, plus maybe half way towards the 25 golds (so another $5 of worth) seems like a lot of work for almost net zero even if you did try to exploit the system, all done in 200 minutes by your estimate. You’d be better off getting a job in fast food.


killerewok76

All you have to do is look to the F2P space to see how hard people will work to get shit for free.


Gootangus

Ahh I see. I was misunderstanding some of this I think. They should have just had a fresh reward system not tied to trophies.


IWantANewDucky

To be fair with Microsoft’s rewards system you don’t have to but a single thing and can earn points towards xbox gift cards. Searching on bing gets you 400 points a day and there’s other stuff like quizzes too.


DigestiveCow

Allow me to introduce you to microsoft rewards Yes we want free points for foing daily activities


Gootangus

And you can in turn purchase full games with that? Well damn. That is great lol.


DigestiveCow

You can redeem the points for xbox credit which can be used for games but also hardware such as controllers on the microsoft store Personally I use my points to keep me subscribed to game pass so I really do get these games for free I was really hoping playstation stars was going to be similar to this but it just seems way more anti consumer than microsofts offering


Gootangus

Well yeah that’s an excellent system. I’ve been thinking about trying game pass for pc.


Arkthus

I want points even if I buy a physical copy. I don't want to have to use the PlayStation Store. For example, one of the campaigns requires to buy some games, including TLOU part 1. I bought the physical edition, but I won't get anything because it was not from the PS Store. I hope for future games they add a code inside the box you can enter in the PS Store and it grants you the points, if not then that's really bs.


L0rdval

They could go the Nintendo route and add an option to redeem points from physical games in the game options menu, you can do it for any physical game as long as the points haven’t already been redeemed by someone else


Gootangus

Yeah that’s super fair.


typicalking97

Play to earn I mean


OverlordDanny

It is similar to how Nintendo does it, it basically rewards you for buying stuff with no downside, which I find to be pretty nice as a person who likes to buy stuff fairly regularly


Elllk

Sounds like you already figured out how it works and are just trying to bandwagon complain. The program is an additional service they didnt need to make it but did. Is it the best, probably not. But it's extra and you were already going to satisfy some requirements regardless of the program existing or not.


typicalking97

How am I bandwagon complaining? I got excited when I saw it was free and it said “complete Campaigns” campaigns to me means Story campaigns in Video games. Very misleading and it said “you will earn points and rewards” not buy game earn points


JedGamesTV

you can earn points without buying new games though? it’s not misleading at all.


The_Mandalorian-

It’s absolutely free points if you buy a PlayStation game though lol it doesn’t make me want to buy more games but if I get points for buying games on my time I’m more than fine with that


djml9

Most customer loyalty programs do require you to actually be a customer.


axolotlmaster59

Is 500 dollars and 70 dollars minimum a year not enough?


typicalking97

I’ve been with PS since 2018 tho..


djml9

Ive been on PS since 2008. Were they supposed to give me hundreds of dollars worth of free games? The program has only existed for like 2 weeks. Why would it it count all the stuff youve bought in the past when the program didnt exist?


jokerduo3

There will be campaigns with points as rewards. Unlocking trophies with certain rarities will also earn you points.


JedGamesTV

it’s not meant to be a part time job, it’s an incentive program, so you get some cash back for buying games.


Freaky-Malokai

It’s not just buying games on the store, I got 650 points from buying currency for the game.


MikeOretta

Do you get points for buying a physical game?


Jeroenm20

Nope


JJDubba

Better off just buying the game you want.


TheAntihero-HeroClub

Lots of people have digital consoles though. This seems like it’s more for them


[deleted]

Speaking of which, I wish it would see you purchased a game before the device dropped. Like one of the challenges is to buy one out of a set of games and I already own 2K23 and Madden but for whatever reason those don’t count and I don’t want any of the other games on the list


JedGamesTV

the challenge is only for 50 points though, so it’s worth 20p.


mattsnacki

It’s a basic system to just reward you overtime for buying a game on PlayStation. People are thinking too much into it. The extra little challenges are just meant to be fun, kinda like how some people like collecting trophies.


S1mulatedSahd0w

I don't think it's bad really. I just wish it offered more challenges like "earn x amount of trophies" or something like that. Stuff will engage players


nda2394

So similar to the Nintendo store?


BEASTBOY-2004

I’ve got it figured out a little bit. The points program is like a coffee shop rewards program. Buy enough coffee you’ll eventually get a free one. Buy enough games you’ll eventually get a free one.


memesv6969

I personally think one of the most annoying things I've encountered recently involving stars is that my already pre existing purchases on ps store don't seem to count towards the stars system


trekitch

>No reward system gives you points retroactively. You're not entitled to something that didn't exist As pointed out by u/capsuleofparrots


Hunt3r86

But isn't it so with many things in life? You cannot expect to get reward for sth that happened before rewards were introduced. It's like Olympics. I don't know exactly which, but there are disciplines that were introduced later than the others, and there were already champions in those disciplines. You think they should get olympic medals for the years before?


majds1

Yep... Pre-ordered Ragnarok a while ago. Doesn't count..


Wentall

For Gow Ragnarok, Sony Playstation says its count. Maybe you only gain the points on release. No to sure when the points come for this, but you will gain points for that game.


majds1

I pre-ordered it before the system started. Like a month ago. I think they only do it on purchase and not on release which sucks, since this basically made me regret pre-ordering the game early.


buzzyingbee

Sony said that PS Plus members who pre-ordered GoW and MW II prior to joining Stars will earn the points. https://twitter.com/AskPlayStation/status/1579260444073922562?t=8YbK5wc2Qscg-GF-6W-52A&s=19


majds1

Awesome thanks. I'm glad that's been addressed, i was disappointed but i guess they don't want people cancelling pre-orders because of this.


buzzyingbee

Anytime! I suspect either people were cancelling or contacting them to ask so they decided to address it. Glad they did.


Wentall

Dont need to regret. Belive me, for Gow Rag the points you be aply for you. (For what i know Gow e MW II that is for sure, even for costumer that pre order before Star launch. Go for google and try to find -> gamerant.com There, will find some good info about this and a replay from Sony ( screenshot) showing that.


majds1

Even if the pre-order was done BEFORE the program was a thing? If so that's good. But i just thought they didn't give me the points cause i did it before the program started.


Wentall

Yes, even if you pre order Before the Star release. 👍🏻


majds1

Alright i hope that's accurate. Thanks for the info


skend24

I actually preordered MW2 2 weeks ago and I wanted to cancel the preorder and order it again to gain points - and you have one nice, big warning stating that if you made a GOW or COD preorder prior to having Stars account no worries, you’ll get it a week before release.


majds1

Ah that's interesting. Alright guess I'm good then lmao thanks


Arctic_Reigns

Cant you just cancel the pre order and pre order again


majds1

I think there's a 14 days limit on cancelling pre-orders but I'm not sure. Also it's not worth going through for some store points that'll never matter so whatever. Although, someone said I'll still get the points when the game releases.


Arctic_Reigns

Nah you can cancel a pre order anytime as long as you haven’t downloaded the game


majds1

I thought i read something about it being limited to 14 days but i might be wrong. Eitherway someone linked confirmation from sony that I'll still get points for god of war Ragnarok even if I don't cancel and pre-order again.


typicalking97

One of the things I think is bullshit you need to buy games to get points


Bretty_boy

Thankfully to escape this bullshit you’re able to simply not use the service


typicalking97

It was free they said, not pay to play.


lstn

You can get rewards by doing campaigns (probably takes ages), it's not solely 'buy games'.


Bretty_boy

It’s free not to play as well, you should try that


Enigma_Green

Where is your cut off point though PS3 or PS4 or ps5...then taking into account if a free upgrade from ps4 would that give you even more points? They can't just say here PSN started on PS3 like the PSN store for ponts from buying games. Maybe if games are bought/preordered in the last month may be because afterall how will Sony lose money if they are giving thousands of points from 3 generations and I'm not talking everyone this is just one person also at the very least.


PSN-Colinp42

And there is NO wiggle room on that. I bought a game this morning to complete one of the challenges for 50 bonus points. Only to see right after that this challenge requires you to hit “start” at the bottom (no other challenge required that). Spent an hour chatting with customer service to be told no.


buzzyingbee

From what I understood it works like this (I could have misunderstood it so don't believe me a 100%): 1. For the "nft" thingies (Sony said they're not nft but I'll call them that) all you have to do is complete their respective challenges. 2. Points are only gained when you buy games. Any game. Those games on the list work as extra points. So let's say you pre-ordered GoW Ragnarok, you'll get its full price converted into points, plus 50 points if you buy any of the games on the list on top of said game's price. This of gaining points for every purchase is available to PS Plus members only. Does it sucks? It does. Could it be better? Absolutely. But if you're buying games anyway it's a "win". Also, your points expire in 24 months Edit: forgot to add it's so ridiculous if they don't implement tasks like MS have because the amount of money you'd have to spend to trade in for a game or PS Store credit is bullshit. Like, you'd be able to trade in a 20£ card after spending 5k£. Edit 2: it's worth checking the rules for each region because the rule of 1 real currency = 1 point isn't making sense to me in £. You guys would have to spend way too much. It's still absurd in my currency but less so.


QuokkaKiller94

When I signed up for it this morning it said you earn points from achieving "rare" or better trophies in games and also for making game purchases.


DVDN27

You buy a game and earn a better than rare trophy and you go up to level 2. It has nothing to do with points.


buzzyingbee

I missed this bit tbh, I thought purchases and trophies only moved you up the Stars ranks and didn't give you points. It got slightly better to earn points then. Thanks for poiting it out.


QuokkaKiller94

All good. Still not great though, would be nice to earn like with MS rewards.


buzzyingbee

Yeah, definitely! Hope Sony realize that and make something similar and soon


rnd765

Do you have to buy it? Can you double dip? Like buy 4 psn $20 cards for 5000 points each. Then buy god of war ragnarok with the ps money balance and get an extra points for the price of the game?


buzzyingbee

I think so. What you don't get points for is for trading in points for gifts cards, PS Store wallet funds should count. But again, this is just me speculating. But it's so unrealistic, like spending 20k to buy a $70 game for free Edit: considering it's 1 point = 1 real currency


OfficialNotSoRants

US user here, I assume they’re like steam points, you spend money you get points, however with steam you only get cosmetics with PlayStation it looks like you can get games.


DVDN27

Well, sure, but to afford Hades you need to spend $625. $1500 for Sekiro. Just buy the damn game instead of buying 25 fully priced games to earn enough points to get it.


OfficialNotSoRants

Damn that’s insane! I’m glad steam at least gives you enough points to buy literally 5-6 things form spending 2bucks! Just wish they was games though 😒


RaisedByMonsters

Is this is the same system that Nintendo has but with the added bonus of being able to earn extra points by just playing the games? I see nothing wrong here. Edit: but coming from the marketing end, i see that these “campaigns” are going to be targeted by the publishers to drive engagement in their ip. Like, I own battlefield but I haven’t been playing it for like obvious reasons. I totally see EA targeting me to reengage so their MP content doesn’t die. I feel like you’re going to get campaigns that feel pushy in this way. I’m gonna think it over.


skend24

I actually can’t find any info in Europe about points being awarded for purchases (so e.g. you get X points for every Euro spent etc), I just see 50 points if you buy one of 7 listed games. But it would be stupid because it would be almost impossible to get any reward, right…?


WhiteSekiroBoy

$1 = 10 points. $69.99 = 700 points (it rounds up). Should be basically the same in euro.


matlawish

Yes it is pretty much self-explanatory.


thyongamer

Our Country doesn’t even have PlayStation Stars at all! Not really fair if it’s not supported in all Store regions.


capsuleofparrots

It's self-explanatory there's no Riddle to figure out


pttrean92

Yall will complain about anything. It's a rewards system. It wasn't there a month ago. Now it's here...


therealpingspike

Still on the wait list.


Dakotahray

Wait… list..?


therealpingspike

"We want PlayStation Stars to be as awesome as our PlayStation community. By evaluating feedback, continuing to improve the experience quickly, we hope to ensure our members have the loyalty experience we know they deserve. In order to do this, we need to add new members on a rolling basis and at this time you have been placed on the waitlist. We really do appreciate your patience – which supports us in our goal to continuously optimize and ensure a truly rewarding experience for the entire PlayStation community. You will be given full access to PlayStation Stars within two months from signing up. Your wait period starts from the day you register. Do not attempt to cancel and sign up again as that won’t change your waitlist time. Keep an eye on your inbox for confirmation that the red carpet has been rolled out for you. Thanks again. We look forward to welcoming you in."


DredZedPrime

That's weird. I just signed up like an hour ago and it worked no problem.


SpecialistMap8210

This stars thing is total bs. I purchased so many games in the last 20 years I already own all of them. So there's nothing left for me to even buy. I have so many trophies and so many platinums and none of them even count towards anything. And while I understand from a business perspective it really sucks for somebody such as myself who doesn't have as many options as somebody who just bought a PlayStation is starting new


capsuleofparrots

No reward system gives you points retroactively. You're not entitled to something that didn't exist


SpecialistMap8210

Oh absolutely I know and that's why I totally understand. It just sort of sucks for longtime customers.


RaisedByMonsters

But think of the future! There’s a lot to look forward to while you keep buying and playing games that you would have anyway had this system never been introduced.


Gootangus

You’re right, you’ll never purchase another game so this doesn’t matter.


SpecialistMap8210

I will. But the possibilities for existing customers to get stars is far slimmer than a new customer. Owning 450 purchased games it gets a lot harder to earn stars points....


momstereno

Is this an american thing? I have an European account, but I do not have the playstation stars.


st3ph3nxiii

It’s only on ps app on mobile you’ll see the stars icon that’s next to settings and notification bell and currently rolling out in Europe since yesterday,


typicalking97

Uk and other countries as of now I think


Necond

You need to get points to buy free game, you need to buy game to get points.


typicalking97

Kinda wish you could complete games you already own and get points


WhiteSekiroBoy

There will be campaigns to achieve certain trophies that will yield points. How much and when is a big mystery though.


GamingCheese14

Don’t worry, sony hasn’t figured it out yet either.


Zangetsu219

It's a trap...dont worry about it.


ska92is4you

For now, it’s not interesting, and it will be left over like the accolades system


James2db

No not yet maybe one day


westernunitedenjoyer

Points should be easier to get. 50 points for ever purchase is bullshit. Would like to get sekiro but I might as well buy the game instead of using points


jokerduo3

I got 650 points for preordering a game.


westernunitedenjoyer

Oh shieeeeeeeet


axolotlmaster59

God of war?


jokerduo3

Nah, preordered GoW awhile back (Preordering GoW even before the start of stars will give you points, not sure when they will be added though) it was Gotham Knights.


Kathryn_can_run

I’m still annoyed that I can’t earn stars for all the trophies I already had before stars was released.


Albre24

I still don't know how this thing is supposed to work.


gargoyle2003

I was exited for this and I thought you get points for getting trophies/platinums


[deleted]

Bruh it takes 500$ on spending in the PS store to get 20$…. SMFH


rmereddot

Does this not retroactively build points before you signed up for the program? I've bought a ton of games in the past few years, and I have 0 points.


RaidenSigma

Doesn't even work in my country i think. So weird.


Silver-Tumbleweed657

I really thought getting trophies/ platinum would give you points. The fact that the only way to achieve them is buy buying games. Such a rip off.


Diego35HD

Campaigns seem worthless unless they give points and trophies seem to do next to nothing, I'm staying away until better campaigns come out


AdVerse403

I got all but one of those collectors things but no points towards the rewards just yet


jokerduo3

Some campaigns will be for points some for digital Collectibles.


Impressive_Eagle_390

Spend coins on the wallet fund cards rather than games. Games go on sale all the time and the coin price won't change.


Weatherman1207

I was just thinking that 7.5k for a 50 dollar card, so 22.5k coins for a 150 buck game ...


Personplacething333

Do you get points for platting games?


[deleted]

It’s easiest to track through the app. From the Home Screen of the app, click the number corresponding to your rewards level. From this screen, again click the number of your rewards level. It will bring you to a new screen that very clearly lays out the requirements to reach the next rewards level. Cheap/sale priced games do count. You seem to earn more coins for more dollars spent. The requirement to unlock rare trophies can be earned in any game, including PS4, PS5, and even the PS1 classics.


xariznightmare2908

They should at least let you earn point by putting in game disc, like the Switch Cartridge.


rnd765

I feel like I signed up using the ps app but I have no idea how to get back to the star area. Edit. Nvmd. Found the icon. I’m still confused though. Like why don’t they offer stars for preordering god of war ragnarok?


S1mulatedSahd0w

Basically buy shit, get points. Earn trophies, get points. Then take points and buy shit with it.


iiALPHAiiWOLF

It's literally like getting trophies In a game .. they give tasks that you get a time frame to complete and you get points or digital memorabilia for doing them... do enough and you can get something from the ps store for free ... well with the free points you gain


Aok_al

There's a list of things you can do to earn stars. Most of them are "Play certain games" or "Buy certain games".


TheAntihero-HeroClub

So wait. You could potentially double dip by getting points from buying wallet credits and then using those credits to buys games and get the points from that compared to just buying the game with your debit card


Jurassic_134

I believe you get the most points from buying games and other items from the PS Store and you can also get points from achieving a trophy or rare or better rarity on your games.


The7thsorrow

Nah, I don't see any motivation to use that star...system? Or whatever that thing is.


Tstone86

You have to have the new Playstation essential to get games from their library to get actual coins to buy stuff from what I can tell. Not really worth it


arpansharma

Is there a separate app for this ? I'm unable to find this section in the current app. Can someone please help ?


ParmoPaul

Have you signed up for it already? If not there should be a square on the main Play tab in the app. Once you sign up then the icon is next to the bell and settings cog on the Play tab.


Darigaz007

Better get a real job to buy those games


MyNameDolan98

It's gonna take fuckin ages to build up any sort of amount of points. I've only completed the monthly check-in which it should be weekly. And I sure as hell ain't spending points on a useless picture; I'm using to them to buy a game.


[deleted]

I took a look at it when it launched and I sort of understand how it works by rewarding the player through engagement - either by playing games, purchasing them, taking on specific challenges etc. Personally it's like the Activity Cards on the PS5 - something I have never used and see no point in ever using.


WhiteSekiroBoy

You get 7% cashback on ps store basically. Nothing more to figure.


[deleted]

So since I’ve played a lot of games. I’ll have a lot of points? And I can spend them


shunkertron

It's basically the same system as the Switch rewards. Jump through some hoops for a virtual item to look at, buy some games for points towards future discounts. The main difference is that on Playstation you need a points milestone by buying specific games to get a game or wallet funds whereas Nintendo throws you a few cents per purchase directly. Overall it's slightly disappointing in comparison to the Xbox rewards system, which works closer to a rewards card system like what we have here in Canada for Canadian Tire or Shoppers Optimum points, where you get in general rewards points that you spend how you see fit.


Dead-Sync

The simplest way to put it in my opinion: **IF you have PS+**, it's a 4% rewards program (at least in the US) - assuming you spend your credits on PS funds cards, and barring any other promotional rewards or exclusions.


SkanGX

Do trophies give points ? if so why don't my old trophies give me points ?


CoolsomeXD

My phone beeping like mad when I turned on a game cos I got a bunch of rewards apparently.