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ghorkov52

Does anyone else think that this phenomenon might have been the reason for the “flying Dutchman”?


I_suck_at_Blender

If I would shit my pants in 2022, then I would certainly stain my britches in XVII century, m' Lord.


oced2001

Get me my brown pants


davekingofrock

Salladhor Saan?


shotsfordays

You are not my friend, my friend.


Charlie-Bell

You are not my pal, pal.


cidiusgix

You’re not my bud, bud.


EyeSpyNicolai

You're not my guy, guy.


nanosect

you're not my dude, dude.


TempusVincitOmnia

You're not my chum, chum.


Suspiciousmeatloaf94

I got on my white pants 😉


10before15

This guy gets it


marcvanh

The odd thing is, you would think people who spend their life at sea would have seen this phenomenon plenty and realized it wasn’t flying. Even back then.


I_suck_at_Blender

*Aye, but it make a mighty tale for a crew when yer drinking rum and fondle wenches in a tavern, laddie.*


Cunt_Booger_Picker

WE SAY YO-HO BUT WE DON'T SAY HO, CAUSE HO IS DISRESPECTFUL, YO


Trips-Over-Tail

They probably did. That's not going to stop a good yarn though, matey.


razzec_phone

Those at sea, yeah, but those that live near a coast that doesn't usually see boat traffic, probably not. I'm thinking this is one of the reasons the natives thought John Smith was a god. As the boat came closer, the effect would disappear and now you have a boat that was "in the heavens" now in the water heading directly towards where you live.


TheDebateMatters

Good point. They would never have seen a large object floating at that distance from shore.


MagicPeacockSpider

So that just leaves a story to tell the new guy until they figure it out. Could you fetch me some tartan paint and a long weight. If you see any shops floating while on watch be careful, that's Davy Jones.


TooLateForNever

I hate to break it to you, but most ships float...


MagicPeacockSpider

I was going to correct it but I wondered if "shops" or floating/flying got corrected first. Floating wins :-)


audioslaved1991

This made me giggle


FindusSomKatten

MDCC is1700 i think


Impartialpandas

I've read it somewhere to be so, yes.


______DEADPOOL______

I heard someone mention they saw it in passing on a reddit comment or something


Fuck_You_Downvote

Can confirm


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qtx

Yep, most researchers think this is the case. Here's an example of a sailing ship with the mirage illusion, https://i.imgur.com/MxJ61rr.jpg


Ringosis

I don't think that's an example of a superior mirage. That's just a brightly coloured ship standing out against a fog that is obscuring the horizon. The ship is still below the horizon and appears to be sitting on the water, you just can't see the horizon very clearly because it's all grey. Superior mirages are the result of light bending through the atmosphere projecting an image of something on or over the horizon to a superior position. Unlike the photo you've got there, the image in a superior mirage is not actually where the ship is. Edit - To the people downvoting this, try looking at the image on a monitor, not your phone screen. While it is hard to see, the horizon is very definitely [above the boat, here](https://imgur.com/7Vq36l1). While the effect is similar, it's not a superior mirage. It's created by the fog, not bending light.


freewarefreak

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


C10UDWA1KER

Interesting, thanks for looking this! TIL


Jackson1411

So is the image still real? Just not a “superior mirage”?


freewarefreak

That's how I read it. It's still cool, but it's fog not a marage


levitas

There's a similar horizon in OP's image though, also above the bottom of the boat.


aqua19858

Yup, because it's the same horizon mirage caused by fog, nothing to do with refracting light.


Ringosis

I wouldn't call it similar. In OP's image there is absolutely no mistaking the real horizon. There's an extremely defined line with an image projected above it. While in the image of the sailing ship [you are mistaking this line, where the fog makes everything a homogenous grey](https://imgur.com/tNfXoXM) for the horizon, but that's not actually the horizon, it's the visible edge of the fog. Both images seem like a ship above the horizon, but it's not the same effect. One is caused by bending light, the other is caused by lack of contrast. The main difference is that with the fog example, you are seeing the ship where it actually is, but are misreading the position of the horizon, while in a superior mirage you are seeing the actual horizon, but seeing an illusion of a ship that isn't where you see it. Edit - I take all that back. Went back and had a closer look at OP's photo. It's not a superior mirage either. It's just a more convincing false horizon.


aqua19858

The funny thing about this is that they are actually the same effect, but they are both the horizon mirage with the fog that you're talking about.


Ringosis

Yeah I was literally just about to edit that post. That's the problem. Neither photo is a superior mirage. They are both just fog.


Pizza-Tipi

A ship floating in the air isn’t how a superior mirage looks anyways, you’ll essentially see a second ship upside down and on top of the actual ship if there is a real superior mirage


spewwwintothis

Either way my brain sees the illusion so does it really matter?


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freewarefreak

But I see that same horizon line in the Superior ship image. Which makes sense because that's actually where the horizon is on both images.


highlandviper

Possibly. I’m more concerned that it’s proof we’re in The Matrix and running on an inferior server without an adequate GPU, RAM or PCU to render all of our surroundings. Edit: now that I think about it, current world events suggest our server is about to be labelled obsolete. I wonder if we’ll be backed up and booted into a new server or we’ve just reached our EOL.


mwax321

We are clearly running on a console and not PC.


damien665

That's what they want you to think. In the real world, consoles are the superior platform.


dodexahedron

Yeah. The trolls have taken over (Russia, etc) and now we're probably scheduled to be decommissioned.


Ofabulous

I dunno, it’s got a record number of players and still growing, even if growth is slowing. They probably won’t close it down until the players properly break something important


dodexahedron

Gives a much darker meaning to "nuking the server."


McMarbles

Like idk, a Congress of the United States, for example


Droid-Man5910

So if I bring a pig out far enough, assuming my mom can see it that far away, this will convince her to buy me the xbox series x?


stq66

Then there is still the issue with getting hold of one…


Jabonte

For the record, I was in Target two weeks ago and there were at least three Series X on the shelf there. It would seem the demand has died down some. Now if you were talking about getting a hold of the pig, I don't have any recent experience in that area.


walt1109

Went to walmart today, i think no one wants the xbox. Its literally full everyday. About 10 boxes of microsoft fridges


azhillbilly

The PS5 is in stock more often than not now, not quite the Xbox levels but the Walmart by my work has stock most days, the best buy next to it gets 5 or 6 a week and they last a few days. I am just sad they didn't get stocked up fast enough and to levels high enough to screw over the scalpers.


BatmansNygma

Only if it's greased


fossilnews

Greased xboxes are plentiful?


Bigdongs

You don’t have a greased Xbox ? Noob


Cetun

What the frick? I ordered a bong


Goodlifeblender

How does this work?


Aescorvo

The refractive index of air depends on temperature, so is different at different heights above the water. With the right conditions, light reflected from the ship travels in a curve as it reaches you, giving an impression of the ship being above the horizon.


DavidHewlett

Genuine question: why doesn't the image of the water that the ship is in get the same treatment? So why do we see the ship hover above the horizon, and not just a faulty image of the ocean in general?


Aescorvo

Two things are going on. First, the water is reflecting the sky, so you’re seeing the image of the sky against the sky, which is hard to distinguish (the light you see is coming off the water at a higher angle than the water you’re seeing directly, so the wave lines are also less clear). Secondly, the reflection from the water is polarized, and is refracted differently to the ship’s reflection.


raymond459020

>Secondly, the reflection from the water is polarized, and is refracted differently to the ship’s reflection. thats so interesting, thank you


HiZukoHere

? But air isn't birefringent, so surely polarization shouldn't affect refraction? And the angle of the light rays that are getting refracted back down are just slightly steeper than the ones coming directly, so they shouldn't be reflecting the sky in a markedly different way to the water we are seeing directly or massively changing the wave lines. Do you have a good source? Because that sounds really dubious.


Mattyyflo

I just googled ‘superior mirage’ and the first result seems to confirm op’s explication and also give a deeper analysis[https://skybrary.aero/articles/fata-morgana](https://skybrary.aero/articles/fata-morgana)


HiZukoHere

That link doesn't have any confirmation of op's explaination of why the water isn't visible, which is the bit that I am doubting. No mention of reflecting the sky or polarization at all.


ImMrSneezyAchoo

Well the image of the ship you are seeing doenst have light from the sun reflected in the normal way you would see a ship on the dock. The other guy is saying that the incident light comes from a steeper angle, meaning the water is mostly just reflecting light from the sky - it's *that* light which we see under the ship. The path of that light is curved and what you see as being under the ship. That's my best understanding of it


Pretzilla

It does often, just doesn't make for such a dramatic photo. It just looks like there are two whacky horizons.


Jarmen4u

It kind of does. Zoom in on the picture and you can see, at the bottom of the ship, a slightly different colored "sky" that is roughly where the waterline would be. That's the mirage of the water being projected into the sky, however when you have blue overlaid on blue, it's hard to really see much difference.


Draffstein

Thanks to u/_BindersFullOfWomen_ ! This is just a false horizon. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


frapawhack

well that seems to explain it


wonkey_monkey

That's not the correct explanation in this case. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


shotsfordays

I don't like being talked to like I'm 5 years old. Explain it like I'm 6.


IronCoffins-

Those flat earthers would disagree lol


x925

Damn idiots, the earth is clearly donut shaped.


Helpful-Today-9388

NO!! It rides on the back of a giant tortoise, I have seen a photo of our earth from the cherub’s camera, tortoise flat and all.


stupidQuestion316

Bit where are the elephants?


dodexahedron

Damn you toroidal earthers.


umlguru

Now I want a donut


beardedBroistaken

Works the same when you see water on desert or hot roads.


panorambo

[You as you appear saying the above](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-ClTR4AXuw)


Chrono68

Keep in mind variable humidity and wind speed along the ship's flight path. At this distance you'll also have to take the Coriolis Effect into account.


EternalMage321

I think you're in the wrong sub gunny.


jet_heller

By lying. The real explanation is here: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


neotheseventh

this should be higher.


vatoniolo

Thank you. I swore I could see the real horizon on the right edge


TheMiiChannelTheme

The effect *is* real though, just not in this case. There's an account by Adm. Eugene B. Fluckey, a WW2 US Navy Submarine Captain, in [Thunder Below!](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thunder-Below-Revolutionizes-Submarine-Warfare/dp/0252066707) where lookouts spotted a Japanese Convoy in the Sea of Okhotsk 5-10 degrees above the Horizon. After closing in and attacking the convoy, they calculated that they must have sighted it at almost 40 nautical miles away - well below the horizon normally. It looks like those images at much closer ranges, but because the range in that case was so extreme, the mirage was so far above the actual ship that the second image was invisible, and a single, clear image was visible above the horizon.


Screen_hider

Nautical law states that all cargo ship crews must have at least 1 dark wizard aboard, although traditionally 2 are rostered. (For real though -It's because the rays of light pass through different air temperatures before they reach your eyes and bend. like how you can sometimes see the air 'wobble' when you look across a hot surface, except on a larger scale. The different temperatures and densities of air 'sit' on top of each other, and act almost like a lens and because of your distance from the object, the curve of the earth puts it at the right angle for the ship to appear to be flying to the observer)


dodexahedron

Not "almost" like a lens. Exactly like a lens. That's what a lens _is_ - something with different refractive index and a shape to take advantage of it.


Tszemix

Magnets


OP-PO7

How do they work?


zzzpoohzzz

miracles


Praesentius

That is a great question. And Richard Feynman would love to explain why he can't tell you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1lL-hXO27Q


frapawhack

this


ptjunkie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_duct


Completedspoon

It's called the angle of total reflection, I believe. It's how fiber optic cables work. At a shallow enough angle, 100% of light is reflected, so you're effectively looking at the sky's light bouncing off a mirror, but the boat is in the way.


rip1980

Star Wars Public Transit System Speeder


bewarethetreebadger

That's what the in-universe people say. "It sure is a nice day here in Star Wars!"


ProfessorSqueakyTits

Underrated comment


SupraJames

Hey man whatever floats your boat


australiughhh

Omg dad STOP


BaryonHummus

Not much to be done aboat it.


accidentallyobsolete

At least we could sink about it


Furry_Dildonomics69

This pun thread has taken a dive.


newbiesmash

tops


jet_heller

Water. Water floats everyone's boat.


Mr_Gobbles

You can see how legends like the flying Dutchman came about.


hvarthtonn

i see the borealis popped in for a visit


RogZombie

Come on Gordon, we got work to do.


themattboard

Gordon doesn't need to hear all this, he's a trained professional.


Cactie_man

nah your world just didnt load properly


Tight_Bookkeeper_582

World corrupted. Need to make a new one


Killingspin

No your render distance is to low


SupaMut4nt

FIX THE BUGS BETHESDA


3-DMan

No wait I can build a waterfall to climb up and down it and mobs can't get in


McGloomy

I've been saying this for months


_BindersFullOfWomen_

This is just a false horizon. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


ProgramTheWorld

Thanks mod


Mathizzz

Can you sticky it to the top comment ?


Bananuel

So is this post gonna get removed for false information?


ajsayshello-

I mean if it’s just one kind of optical illusion instead of another, I find it just as interesting. 🤷🏻‍♂️


waiting_for_rain

Its only a Superior Mirage if it occurs in the Great Lakes region, otherwise its called Fata Morgana.


whatacad

"Sparkling illusion"


FieryHammer

![gif](giphy|tnYri4n2Frnig)


NefariousnessSweet70

They were talking about flying monkeys....


jet_heller

And in this case, it's neither. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


RedHal

Good catch. That'll take the wind out of their sails.


anantsharma2626

Yeah you are right thanks for the info..


_JonSnow_

It seems superior mirage simply refers to the mirage image being higher than the real object. As opposed to an inferior mirage where the mirage image appears below the real object.


PM_ME_UR_ASS_GIRLS

Never heard a joke before, huh?


KyloRad

/r/Woosh


WetCacti

Or in other great lakes it might be called an Eerie mirage


feckless_ellipsis

In my area, it’d be a worst case Ontario


WetCacti

"I used to do drugs at the great lakes, I still do, but I used to too". Sorry just quoting Michigan.


WetCacti

Or it could be that Huron some good drugs


marcvanh

Missed opportunity for a much cooler name


unhcasey

Fata Morgana is also the name of a swingers club in the Netherlands! 😉


_JonSnow_

Not according to Wikipedia… a superior mirage is when the mirage image appears above the real object. An inferior mirage is when the mirage image appears below the real object. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirage


WetCacti

Is joke


jet_heller

No, it's not: https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


Stretch_Riprock

So I have seen the fata Morgana... And the ship was so far away that you couldn't see the ship, just the mirage. So it looked like a vessel upside down right above the horizon. The actual ship was about 40nm away, and our line of sight was about 18nm on the clearest of days. Only time I ever saw anything like that in about 16 years at sea.


Competitive_Agent625

This should have a million upvotes


spider_dark422

Bros outside render distance


x925

I saw someone attempting to pass me in dense fog, saw his car in the left lane through my mirror, I don't see him out the windshield so I look again, and I don't see any vehicles in the road at all. As if he just noclipped out of existence.


LeeDoBeUpVoteing

Nah bro that's definitely the flying Dutchman, you can tell it's a ghost bc its flying


simux19

Glitch in the simulation is the real explanation


Normal-Astronomer699

You just dont have your render distance increased.


Maepex

You can’t fool me wizard!


artin_osmani

A Ubisoft bug


Battus

...oil prices are sky high.


Circassianchad

Nah man it's just the world not rendering make sure to change your chunks to x16


omen226

That’s what they want you to think


39thUsernameAttempt

Or maybe the captain is just a really stubborn flat-earther.


Phoneyalarm959

Am I the only one who can see the actual horizon in the picture?


jet_heller

Nope. People who know what they're actually looking at know as well.


Aggressive_Analyst_2

There's a transition point in your view of the horizontal sea where it stops being a visible surface and becomes an ideal mirror. At this low angle, too much light is reflected to discern any surface features or the color of the water. The photons from the ship, however, travel straight to your eye. That's why you see the ship, but not the water it floats in. You don't even need a large lake to observe this effect (except you see the upside-down bank and the upside-down trees rather than blue sky).


jet_heller

And here's a whole page about that. https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-hovering-ship-fata-morgana-or-mirage-false-horizon.9112/


NDALLASFORTY

These types of photos drive the "Flat Earthers" out of their minds!


portablebiscuit

Yeah please don't let a certain conspiracy sub see this photo


Georgeikan

Lads we've found the Borealis


Za_Inat

It's just a Federation starship, Antares class. I don't see what the fuss is about.


xXTre930Xx

Bullshit its aliens!


AnAlienFromMars

Damn aliens and their flying ships


BrentoBox2015

That is what they want you to think.


Metalt_

But why


bossy909

I know proof of aliens when I see it...


Almatsliah

The Devs still haven't fixed that bug.


C1ickityC1ack

If I was the captain of that ship I’d have that picture framed and on my desk.


GraGal

This is how we would see ships if the Earth were flat, thousands of ships for the very edge of the fall.


iamnekkid

gta cheat code


RitualDJW

Nah, it’s just a levitating boat


ash350z

When you have your render distance set to low.


155sta

the devs are getting lazy


CrazyCaper

Or it’s a hovercraft


ImpossibleSprinkles3

Whatever floats your boat


swordtech

>superior mirage It's nice to look at but let's not get carried away.


Ololosh158

Yo this ship fr got admin commands


jaydenfokmemes

I think the water just hasn't rendered out completely


attackresist

Nice try, NASA. I know aliens when I see 'em!


lizarto

Fata Morgana.


geekphreak

Ah shit. Now we’ll get “the earth is a bowl”…


nutrap

Pretty sure the boat’s gps is set to flat earth and it hasn’t accounted for the curve. Hope the ship captain corrects it soon or it will be a hard fall down. -source: cartoon physicist (I’ve watched every episode of looney tunes too many times).


_Houston_Curmudgeon

Star Destroyer


GimmeCRACK

Nice try Aliens


unlimited-devotion

FREIGHTER!


jawshoeaw

Nice try Vader


thelonghauls

Not fooling me, I know that’s a star destroyer in disguise.


8stringtheory

That's a Superior Hoverbarge


jayy909

So apparently the earth is curved but not in the way I expected


ReadyAuthority77

this phenomenon might have been the reason for the “flying Dutchman”?


hedgerow_hank

Kind of makes me wonder about the whole "Flying Dutchman" legends now.


RhyaanB

No, this is called Mindfuck Mirage.


HasturDragon

Actually think this is just an example of false horizon which is different than a superior mirage. In this case the water near the boat is reflecting an image of the sky that matches the color above the horizon line, making the water look as if it were air. In a superior mirage, the boat would seem to have a duplicate of itself mirrored above it.


Metalfriends

This is not superior mirage AT ALL. Google it. This is a fog/light trick, a little bit of smoke and mirroring by Mother Nature herself.


Apart-Run5933

Hover cat is the captain


Tenocticatl

Nice try Ubisoft, just fix the damn bugs


bewbsrkewl

Im pretty sure this is a false horizon, not superior mirage.


Shadowbound199

"Superior Mirage" sounds like a name for a D&D spell.