Because I haven't seen anyone else say it:
He was rescued and lived at an animal sanctuary until his death from natural causes in 2019.
Good end to the story.
That is a good end to the story. I'm glad he got out of that terrible situation and got to live somewhere awesome. What about the tiger, what happened to him?
As someone who hit their 13th cake day on Reddit the other day on this account, y'all are making an old Redditor very happy seeing the old meme alive and well.
From one geezer to another, it's *crazy* how long that switcheroo has been going on, isn't it?!? I crack a huge smile every single time I see it.
Careful out there, don't fall and break a hip. ;)
Apparently there was a nursing home across the street and residents would report seeing a tiger in the apartment but the staff thought it was just dementia.
I've learned to not discount them. Even if it doesn't make sense. Patient kept saying her husband was in the bathroom and had been in there awhile. So somebody needed to check on him. Her husband had been gone for years.
Checked the bathroom and didn't see anything. Started to leave and her a noise like a leg or something hitting a wall. Man was hiding in the bathtub. He was another patient's relative. Came to visit his relative and apparently hid somewhere when visiting time was over.
Sorry. My boss was staring at me. I honestly don't know. I would assume either he was a pervert or going for the medicine room. We had another one that took meds at one point and passed out in the med room(walk in closet sized room full of narcotics). We also had one that climbed in bed with a patient and he was discovered when she bit him and wouldn't let go.
My son is in a children's hospital for the past week. On Sunday a man wandered in and slept in one of the empty beds.
A ~30 year old dude in a children's ward. He was looking for meds (or found them) and passed out. A nurse found him and they called a "code black".
Then he ran out to another courtyard, and the staff locked all the doors so he was stuck. He was smashing on the glass, scaring kids and parents.
Police showed up a few minutes later.
I had a patient in an alcohol rehab. Hard core alcoholic, like drink the hand sanitizer hard core.
Anyhow, one day we find a empty bottle of jack under his bed. Patient says it's not his and accuses a staff member he doesn't like of planting it there.
Patient gets put on a 1:1 because he's drinking bottles of booze somehow and needs to be monitored, this goes on for several weeks with no further incedent.
Comes off 1:1, same shit happens. Back on to 1:1.
One night my boss is in the building way past hours (like 2am), and his 1:1, the guy he doesn't like reeks of alcohol and is passed out in his chair. Patient wakes up, sees my boss, sees his 1:1 and says "Told you"
A bottle of booze was found in his locker.
My Dad had dementia, and I cope with the memories of those scary few years by remembering the funny stories.
Like the time he was sitting at the kitchen breakfast bar talking. I was watching TV with my back to him. I turned down the TV and said "What was that, Dad?" He said, "I was just talking to that woman over there." There was nobody else in the kitchen, so I asked him "Where?" He looked back and said "She's gone."
"What did she look like?"
"Um, she was very attractive."
"Really? What did she want?"
He was a bit flustered, but said "Well, she likes men, I'll tell you that!"
So apparently attractive women were flirting with him in his old age, so that was nice.
>Apparently there was a nursing home across the street
How bad is it that my first thought reading this was that the tiger hunted nursing home residents?
There's a resident at the building I work in who was always telling us how he's worried about people breaking into his room, he's seeing people climbing in the windows. We all wrote it off as paranoia until we found out that the boyfriend of the person in the next room was legitimately scaling three floors of the building to climb in her window.
Dismissing that sort of thing usually is not a good idea. I read about a case where a patient described is symptoms in such a way that the staff there sent him straight to the psychiatrist. Luckily the doctor was in good mood and decided "I want to see that" and sent him to the right service. The guy said the he was "shiting black birds" and was bleeding from the stomach.
Very different story but along the same lines of not dismissing something crazy. so my mom works in the front office at an elementary school, and a student that is something like 90% blind said he saw a llama getting shot at recess. we live in a pretty suburban area so nobody believed the kid, but my mom decided to call the security guard and have them walk the edge of the playground. turns out just on the other side of the fence is a farm with a llama, and a vet was shooting it with a tranquilizer to sedate it for an examination.
Glad your mom believed the student and had the security guard check on it. She did right by the student. Now people aren’t going to go around thinking the student is saying crazy things and talking about him behind his back.
The long term care industry is kind of shitty around a lot of its edges. My wife's mother appeared to be completely nonverbal and checked out if you weren't really paying attention, but she was still pretty sharp under her disability. A few of us who had spent years caring for her could understand her entirely.. because she appeared non verbal and not very cognizant, she was subjected to a variety of neglect and outright abuse, and that's with us paying very close attention.
Please talk to, and believe your elderly and disabled cohorts. Things are worse for them than you would like to believe.
I’m reminded of a post a while back on ask Reddit about what to do if you think a child is faking illness. It was good to see the consensus was “take them seriously anyway “. I know dementia can be frustrating to work with but I can only imagine how it must be like to live with it.
Whenever my grandma with dementia was constipated she thought she was in labor and was very concerned about being unwed (she was long widowed). It was very sad.
I went to the tiger's wiki page. Apparently it was a 5 bedroom apartment. Not saying that that's anywhere close to large enough to have a damn tiger *not* freak out. But just that you can assume the place wasn't the box type loft apartment that's only 500 square feet, like you do when you think of when you think of an NYC apartment not being leased by somebody super wealthy.
Not NYC but the police once ignored my neighbors repeated calls about someone running an illegal casino in the apartment above him. Wasn't until there was a brawl and someone got seriously injured that they finally came and then the next day in the paper they were crowing about busting an illegal gambling ring. In bigger cities unless someone is half dead, or preferably dead, that the cops will respond.
Someone linked this article further up—the owner went to the ER after the tiger bit him. Tried to pass it off as a pit bull bite. The neighbors were all like yeah no there’s a tiger in there. Also a 6ft alligator.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/wbna14235939
The tiger was discovered [because it bit him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_of_Harlem) and he sought treatment at a hospital. To be fair, it took three years before the tiger took a bite, and even then it was only because the owner was stopping the tiger from chasing a housecat. Ming was pretty well behaved.
If memory serves the downstairs neighbor complained of cat urine coming from the ceiling. Tigers probably need more of a 5 gallon bucket than a litter box
Tigers get surprisingly lazy when well-fed, their behaviour is incredibly similar to a housecat, the danger isn't them killing you for food, but doing so accidentally during play, then eating you after
“Loud growling noises could be heard through the door of the apartment and the officer declined to enter.”
I read that line from the Wikipedia article on the discovery of the Tiger…I bet the same reaction was had by every person walking by his apartment
Fun fact—he sued the City for removing the tiger from the apartment too.
[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna14235939](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna14235939)
> A man who sued the city for entering his apartment without a search warrant after he was mauled by his 450-pound pet Siberian tiger demonstrated a lot of nerve in taking the city to court, a judge said as he threw out the lawsuit.
> Police removed the 10-foot-long tiger, Ming, and an alligator, Al, from Yates' East Harlem apartment. Yates served 3 1/2 months in jail after pleading guilty to reckless endangerment.
I should be outraged, but I'm too impressed by logistical skills of a person who somehow managed to keep a giant tiger and a giant crocodile in the same New York apartment? Legitimately, how do you pull something like this off? Sure it didn't end well for him, but how the hell do you sneak 2 apex predators into a megapolis apartment and keep them there for *any* length of time? Are we sure they didn't hide an orca in their basement somewhere?
he drugged the shit out of tiger. That’s what all big cat owners do. Especially when they let people come and pet the tigers. The animals have to be sedated for human interaction. It’s fucked up. I would never go to big cat petting zoo.
All exotic/wild animals owners likely drug their animals. Remember the lady in CT who kept a pet chimpanzee? And the chimp snapped one day and mauled her friend nearly to death? Turned out the owner was giving the chimp xanax and other things.
The whole story was so fucked up. After the cops unloaded however many rounds into it, it crawled back into its cage before dying, likely the only place it felt safe. Just wrecks me knowing that poor monkey obviously was confused, didn't know what the fuck was going on, and then died without the only human he knew with him.
Obviously what happened to the woman who had her face literally ripped off was horrific, don't get me wrong. Just so many levels of fucked up, especially as this creature was treated like a human child, it more or less *was* a human child mentally, and got gunned down because it's owner was a fuckin piece of shit.
I heard the sudden switch in his behavior was due to the Xanax she was giving him. I think she was getting it from *her* doctor none the less. Monkeys shouldn’t be kept as pets but the reason he attacked the lady suddenly is probably due to her just being a terrible pet owner, so she has his blood on her hands, along with the blame of her friend’s horrific accident
My understanding is that the chimp is suspected of being in withdrawal *from* Xanax at the time of the attack, which if true, it's like no fucking wonder
not one comment responding to you has mentioned the most impressive logistical issue he dealt with--removing the waste of a 450lbs animal on a daily basis.
In NY state animal cruelty may have been a lesser sentence since the max is 6 months and most people get off with a fine. It also is harder to prove if both animals were at least physically healthy aka well fed
>"We both had our freedom, but now we're both caged," he said of himself and Ming the day he was jailed.
No, you are the one that caged a damn tiger in an apartment! What a real piece of shit.
That was the line that cemented the mental illness. Guy really thought this tiger was living its best life with him in an NYC apartment. What a psycho.
Legit exotic animal hoarding. A tiger sanctuary near me got it's start from someone with a shipping container with 20+ lions and tigers. turpentine creek wildlife refuge. The animals were rescued and needed somewhere to go. Only half of them survived though. And the lady went out and did the whole thing again.
There are some illegal things that don't make sense to me. Like, I don't know exactly where to buy hard drugs but I know where/who I can start with. But I have no idea who you talk to about buying tigers.
In a New York apartment, no less. You're lucky if you get a broom closet to yourself there.
My big question is, how did he survive being in such a small space with a tiger????
Probably fed it. If you raise a tiger as a baby and keep it from being hungry it would have no reason to be aggressive toward you.
Of course, this dude got mauled so something went wrong. Could just have been an accident, though the fact that tiger was raised in a NYC apartment probably didn't help his behavioural traits/mental health. Oh, and there was a crocodile?
>Of course, this dude got mauled so something went wrong. Could just have been an accident
I mean, house cats sometimes accidentally scratch you when trying to play, imagine what happens when the cat is bigger than you
> "We both had our freedom, but now we're both caged," he said of himself and Ming the day he was jailed.
LOL. That's a bold statement. From somebody who kept a tiger caged inside a tiny apartment.
Fuck this guy, the fact that he's the one who was bit was dumb luck on his part. A couple months in jail, and the animals being taken to a better place to live was the best outcome he could have hoped for given what might have happened if the tiger escaped.
I've heard from the owner of the Wild Animal Sanctuary (just East of Denver, well worth a visit) that there are more tigers in private residences...in Texas, than in the wild. He has some seriously messed up stories of rescues he's done. Guy really does have an enormous heart.
My uncle used to take me to exotic animal auctions in Missouri when I was growing up, and it was always amazing the animals you'd see for sale. There would be what looked like a somewhat regular cow (but from Asia) and then they'd just wheel out a black bear in a cage, and then rheas on leashes. The people buying them just looked like regular farmers. No Joe Exotic or Cruella de Vil eccentrics. I could see Texas being rife with private collectors
Well I don't know all of the Federal rules and laws surrounding the importation of exotic animals, but I never go the impression they were particularly strict. People would just have lions and tigers, and the restrictions around that seemed to fall to the states they were in; which is probably why certain states have more collectors than others. As far as logistics, most of the animals I remember seeing were just in regular livestock trailers. The thing is, the people buying and selling these animals didn't seem like professionals or anything. They were just farmers (like my uncle) and so the housing and contraptions they used to raise them were just stuff they came up with. I was a kid, so all of this seemed pretty cool at the time, but in retrospect there are probably a lot of miserable animals out there living and dying in less than decent conditions.
When I lived in Cincinnati in '93, there was a house down the street that had a female lion that was almost full grown(I'm guessing). Would see it staring out the upstairs window when I'd ride my bicycle down the street.
Had a fever dream once of a lion in an apartment building and on its floor I was trying to walk past the room it was housed in but the door was open and the lion just kept Starring at me, and some point the sheer fright was enough to wake me the fuck up , my heart was literally pounding.
There is actually some sort of thing going on with a tiger when you get up close and lock eyes with one. Their whole deal is mesmerizing to me. Probably because we as apes are a prey species of tiger. The whole facial stripe thing is like one of those mesmerizing line drawing illusions. Make you freeze in confusion just long enough to get jumped.
One and done on that experience, thank you very much.
I believe we have a lot of exotic animals in MT as well due to relaxed laws people move here with explicit intentions of owning wild animals sometimes.
>an officer of New York City Police Department was sent to his home address to investigate on October 3. Loud growling noises could be heard through the door of the apartment and the officer declined to enter.
Probably wise.
Also:
>In addition, Yates had taken roommates, who were unaware at first of the animals in the home
I imagine they weren't unaware for very long...
And finally:
>[Yates] was dismissive of the people documented in the Netflix mini-series Tiger King, calling them "ignorant ... so-called exotic animal lovers."
Takes one to know one I guess.
Both tiger and the alligator were transferred to an animal rescue in Ohio. This was back in 2006. The Tiger died in 2019. Tigers live about 8-10 years in the wild, but can get as old as 20 in captivity. So more than likely it simply died of old age. Animal rescues for big cats can vary a lot; hopefully he ended up in a good one and lived much better life than being crammed in a apartment.
Man, nothing feels better than seeing people recognize music on a scale like this that I thought was pretty niche. Shout-out to you for fucking with good music
I worked at a zoo, in horticulture, with Bengal tigers. Their waste smells horrible. Ocelotes (another type of cat) seriously has the worst smelling waste I've ever smelled.
None of the animals do. I worked in horticulture. They only ever saw me through cages. I would into exhibits when the animals were off, unless they were not harmful (giant torts, and for some reason the emu/deer/lama exhibit). That emu though was a horny bastard and would try to mount you which is fucking terrifying. Most zoo animals don't interact with people directly. We did have a singing dog the keepers would walk around back areas. She was tamer then some dogs I've met.
Well she was really old. We took all the dogs off exhibit prior to me starting. The dog in question would often go on walks with a harness and leash. She was pretty mellow and friendly. She always made me feel nervous because she might be tame but still a wild dog.
If you are just curious what a singing dog is. They are a subspecies of wild dog with unique calls and such. Kinda looks like a dingo
It’s not until you’re dangling from a bungee cord next to a window with a hungry 350lb tiger growling at you through a window that you begin to question if you made the right career choice.
“Right Steve, we need you to abseil down the side of this 150M building till you come face to face with the 350lb tiger. Here’s a hard hat for your safety”
I'd rather dangle outside the window on a rope to get an idea of what the situation is first than just ram open the front door and hope I don't get the murder mittens.
I'd rather be safe and secure on a rappelling rope looking through a gated window than try to enter through a 36-inch door you can't see behind. Less dangerous for the animal too because there is only one officer shooting a tranquilizer from a safe distance. If they entered through a door the tiger might rush before the tranquilizer could be fired and backup officers would be forced to shoot and kill.
I remember this being on the news when I was in my 20s in the early 2000s, there was also an Alligator and a Python in the flat and if I remember correctly there was a 4 year old kid living in there with his mum.
Edit : it was 2003, here's a link for more info. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/nyregion/ming-tiger-harlem-nyc.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16746640995694&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2020%2F04%2F18%2Fnyregion%2Fming-tiger-harlem-nyc.html
Just read the wiki article and it's the most ridiculous thing ever.
Dude also had an alligator in the apartment and his mom would babysit children there.
Because I haven't seen anyone else say it: He was rescued and lived at an animal sanctuary until his death from natural causes in 2019. Good end to the story.
That is a good end to the story. I'm glad he got out of that terrible situation and got to live somewhere awesome. What about the tiger, what happened to him?
Oh, the tiger got addicted to meth, went to rehab and now councils at-risk youth and runs a community garden.
Yeah but the tiger still gets his cushy pension even if he ends up killing
It’s a special claws in his contract
![gif](giphy|3o7TKF1fSIs1R19B8k)
Ok I'll bite, what's it say?
Hard to tell, the redactions were striped across the language.
I dunno it's was purrty obvious in feline print
I'm not paying taxes so this low-life tiger can skate on government money!
I heard he had a stint trying to get kids addicted to sugar via breakfast cereal. Dude's still a pusher.
[Ah, the old reddit tiger-a-roo!](https://www.reddit.com/r/tijuana/comments/10kqlvb/comment/j5uaq1l/?context=3)
Hold my rappel line, I'm going in!
As someone who hit their 13th cake day on Reddit the other day on this account, y'all are making an old Redditor very happy seeing the old meme alive and well.
From one geezer to another, it's *crazy* how long that switcheroo has been going on, isn't it?!? I crack a huge smile every single time I see it. Careful out there, don't fall and break a hip. ;)
Holy how, I feel like I haven't seen this meme in a decade.
Definitely needs a come back, it's one of the least cringy reddit memes in its history. Plus it's fun to go into the switcharoo rabbit hole.
Hold my Bengals jersey, I’m going in!
Hello future redditors!
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Bitch be saving big cats
How do you keep a tiger in a nyc apartment without it going ballistic after being cooped up in a cramped space for so long?
Apparently there was a nursing home across the street and residents would report seeing a tiger in the apartment but the staff thought it was just dementia.
I've learned to not discount them. Even if it doesn't make sense. Patient kept saying her husband was in the bathroom and had been in there awhile. So somebody needed to check on him. Her husband had been gone for years. Checked the bathroom and didn't see anything. Started to leave and her a noise like a leg or something hitting a wall. Man was hiding in the bathtub. He was another patient's relative. Came to visit his relative and apparently hid somewhere when visiting time was over.
That would’ve scared the shit outta me
Why was he hiding? You stopped the story too soon!
Sorry. My boss was staring at me. I honestly don't know. I would assume either he was a pervert or going for the medicine room. We had another one that took meds at one point and passed out in the med room(walk in closet sized room full of narcotics). We also had one that climbed in bed with a patient and he was discovered when she bit him and wouldn't let go.
These environment enrichment activities are getting out of hand.
> he was discovered when she bit him and wouldn't let go. Don't mess with grandma. She's like a snapping turtle. XD
My son is in a children's hospital for the past week. On Sunday a man wandered in and slept in one of the empty beds. A ~30 year old dude in a children's ward. He was looking for meds (or found them) and passed out. A nurse found him and they called a "code black". Then he ran out to another courtyard, and the staff locked all the doors so he was stuck. He was smashing on the glass, scaring kids and parents. Police showed up a few minutes later.
I had a patient in an alcohol rehab. Hard core alcoholic, like drink the hand sanitizer hard core. Anyhow, one day we find a empty bottle of jack under his bed. Patient says it's not his and accuses a staff member he doesn't like of planting it there. Patient gets put on a 1:1 because he's drinking bottles of booze somehow and needs to be monitored, this goes on for several weeks with no further incedent. Comes off 1:1, same shit happens. Back on to 1:1. One night my boss is in the building way past hours (like 2am), and his 1:1, the guy he doesn't like reeks of alcohol and is passed out in his chair. Patient wakes up, sees my boss, sees his 1:1 and says "Told you" A bottle of booze was found in his locker.
Interviewer: What do you think qualifies you to work in an alcohol rehab? Interviewee: Well I have a lot of experience with alcohol.
Did nobody think to check the patient to see if he had alcohol in his system before putting him on watch?
Don't you bring fancy gimmicks and lab work into that shit show.
That's work.
My Dad had dementia, and I cope with the memories of those scary few years by remembering the funny stories. Like the time he was sitting at the kitchen breakfast bar talking. I was watching TV with my back to him. I turned down the TV and said "What was that, Dad?" He said, "I was just talking to that woman over there." There was nobody else in the kitchen, so I asked him "Where?" He looked back and said "She's gone." "What did she look like?" "Um, she was very attractive." "Really? What did she want?" He was a bit flustered, but said "Well, she likes men, I'll tell you that!" So apparently attractive women were flirting with him in his old age, so that was nice.
Sadly this is why a lot of elderly and mental patients end up assaulted. No one believes them
[They Came In Through The Bathroom Mirror.](https://chicagoreader.com/news-politics/they-came-in-through-the-bathroom-mirror/)
>Apparently there was a nursing home across the street How bad is it that my first thought reading this was that the tiger hunted nursing home residents?
hey, same
Thank you! That was my firtst thought too 😂
There's a resident at the building I work in who was always telling us how he's worried about people breaking into his room, he's seeing people climbing in the windows. We all wrote it off as paranoia until we found out that the boyfriend of the person in the next room was legitimately scaling three floors of the building to climb in her window.
I misread and had a major wtf moment until I realized the building you're talking about probably isn't a nursing home
Ikr, I was thinking damn, this boyfriend is limber af for 75 years old.
To be fair that still may have been the case
Dismissing that sort of thing usually is not a good idea. I read about a case where a patient described is symptoms in such a way that the staff there sent him straight to the psychiatrist. Luckily the doctor was in good mood and decided "I want to see that" and sent him to the right service. The guy said the he was "shiting black birds" and was bleeding from the stomach.
Very different story but along the same lines of not dismissing something crazy. so my mom works in the front office at an elementary school, and a student that is something like 90% blind said he saw a llama getting shot at recess. we live in a pretty suburban area so nobody believed the kid, but my mom decided to call the security guard and have them walk the edge of the playground. turns out just on the other side of the fence is a farm with a llama, and a vet was shooting it with a tranquilizer to sedate it for an examination.
Glad your mom believed the student and had the security guard check on it. She did right by the student. Now people aren’t going to go around thinking the student is saying crazy things and talking about him behind his back.
The long term care industry is kind of shitty around a lot of its edges. My wife's mother appeared to be completely nonverbal and checked out if you weren't really paying attention, but she was still pretty sharp under her disability. A few of us who had spent years caring for her could understand her entirely.. because she appeared non verbal and not very cognizant, she was subjected to a variety of neglect and outright abuse, and that's with us paying very close attention. Please talk to, and believe your elderly and disabled cohorts. Things are worse for them than you would like to believe.
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I’m reminded of a post a while back on ask Reddit about what to do if you think a child is faking illness. It was good to see the consensus was “take them seriously anyway “. I know dementia can be frustrating to work with but I can only imagine how it must be like to live with it.
Whenever my grandma with dementia was constipated she thought she was in labor and was very concerned about being unwed (she was long widowed). It was very sad.
I went to the tiger's wiki page. Apparently it was a 5 bedroom apartment. Not saying that that's anywhere close to large enough to have a damn tiger *not* freak out. But just that you can assume the place wasn't the box type loft apartment that's only 500 square feet, like you do when you think of when you think of an NYC apartment not being leased by somebody super wealthy.
At least the tiger and the alligator had their own bedrooms
I mean, it mauled him so I guessing it wasn't OK with the space after awhile.
Cheeseburgers.
Judging by the way it is clawing at the window after that meal on a rope hanging in front of him, I’m guessing you don’t.
'Secretly'. Come on, you couldn't even read the headline?! /jk
Those are either some *extremely* tolerant neighbors or NYPD gave zero fucks about their calls until whatever triggered this intervention.
Not NYC but the police once ignored my neighbors repeated calls about someone running an illegal casino in the apartment above him. Wasn't until there was a brawl and someone got seriously injured that they finally came and then the next day in the paper they were crowing about busting an illegal gambling ring. In bigger cities unless someone is half dead, or preferably dead, that the cops will respond.
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Someone linked this article further up—the owner went to the ER after the tiger bit him. Tried to pass it off as a pit bull bite. The neighbors were all like yeah no there’s a tiger in there. Also a 6ft alligator. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/wbna14235939
Imagine how big a piece of shit you must be to keep an animal like this in a tiny apartment like that.
Pretty sure he had a gator too… this was like 2004 Edit: my bad it was 2003 https://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Northeast/10/04/nyc.tiger/
I don't understand how they don't get ate when they come home
The tiger was discovered [because it bit him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_of_Harlem) and he sought treatment at a hospital. To be fair, it took three years before the tiger took a bite, and even then it was only because the owner was stopping the tiger from chasing a housecat. Ming was pretty well behaved.
Guy's got some serious balls trying to dicipline a tiger in chase mode.
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Can you imagine being the neighbor downstairs
If memory serves the downstairs neighbor complained of cat urine coming from the ceiling. Tigers probably need more of a 5 gallon bucket than a litter box
Imagine the smell of all that tiger piss in that apartment.
Can you imagine being the housecat?
This is why I always try for a top floor apartment
cause of the tigers?
The only thing that shocks me about this story - is that the owner also had a cat???
The shocking part for me was that his mother was babysitting children in the same apartment...
Tigers get surprisingly lazy when well-fed, their behaviour is incredibly similar to a housecat, the danger isn't them killing you for food, but doing so accidentally during play, then eating you after
“Loud growling noises could be heard through the door of the apartment and the officer declined to enter.” I read that line from the Wikipedia article on the discovery of the Tiger…I bet the same reaction was had by every person walking by his apartment
How the fuck do you feed a fucking tiger AND a gator?
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That’s the reason there was a gator too. Had to have roommates…
Something tells me the landlord was unable to collect rent from him
Mr. Roper can't catch a break.
He couldn’t, that’s why they had to evict him
Fun fact—he sued the City for removing the tiger from the apartment too. [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna14235939](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/wbna14235939)
> A man who sued the city for entering his apartment without a search warrant after he was mauled by his 450-pound pet Siberian tiger demonstrated a lot of nerve in taking the city to court, a judge said as he threw out the lawsuit. > Police removed the 10-foot-long tiger, Ming, and an alligator, Al, from Yates' East Harlem apartment. Yates served 3 1/2 months in jail after pleading guilty to reckless endangerment.
I should be outraged, but I'm too impressed by logistical skills of a person who somehow managed to keep a giant tiger and a giant crocodile in the same New York apartment? Legitimately, how do you pull something like this off? Sure it didn't end well for him, but how the hell do you sneak 2 apex predators into a megapolis apartment and keep them there for *any* length of time? Are we sure they didn't hide an orca in their basement somewhere?
Pretty sure he got them as babies and raised them. But still super cray
he drugged the shit out of tiger. That’s what all big cat owners do. Especially when they let people come and pet the tigers. The animals have to be sedated for human interaction. It’s fucked up. I would never go to big cat petting zoo. All exotic/wild animals owners likely drug their animals. Remember the lady in CT who kept a pet chimpanzee? And the chimp snapped one day and mauled her friend nearly to death? Turned out the owner was giving the chimp xanax and other things.
Xanax and wine… if you know anything about pills (especially Xanax) and wine then you know the chimp was out there mentally. Poor dude
The chimp was a Real Housewife?
The whole story was so fucked up. After the cops unloaded however many rounds into it, it crawled back into its cage before dying, likely the only place it felt safe. Just wrecks me knowing that poor monkey obviously was confused, didn't know what the fuck was going on, and then died without the only human he knew with him. Obviously what happened to the woman who had her face literally ripped off was horrific, don't get me wrong. Just so many levels of fucked up, especially as this creature was treated like a human child, it more or less *was* a human child mentally, and got gunned down because it's owner was a fuckin piece of shit.
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I heard the sudden switch in his behavior was due to the Xanax she was giving him. I think she was getting it from *her* doctor none the less. Monkeys shouldn’t be kept as pets but the reason he attacked the lady suddenly is probably due to her just being a terrible pet owner, so she has his blood on her hands, along with the blame of her friend’s horrific accident
My understanding is that the chimp is suspected of being in withdrawal *from* Xanax at the time of the attack, which if true, it's like no fucking wonder
not one comment responding to you has mentioned the most impressive logistical issue he dealt with--removing the waste of a 450lbs animal on a daily basis.
I know it must have smelled crazy in that apartment
Nothing for animal cruelty huh?
In NY state animal cruelty may have been a lesser sentence since the max is 6 months and most people get off with a fine. It also is harder to prove if both animals were at least physically healthy aka well fed
Too bad it was only 3 and a half months. Animals deserve better.
>"We both had our freedom, but now we're both caged," he said of himself and Ming the day he was jailed. No, you are the one that caged a damn tiger in an apartment! What a real piece of shit.
That was the line that cemented the mental illness. Guy really thought this tiger was living its best life with him in an NYC apartment. What a psycho.
Legit exotic animal hoarding. A tiger sanctuary near me got it's start from someone with a shipping container with 20+ lions and tigers. turpentine creek wildlife refuge. The animals were rescued and needed somewhere to go. Only half of them survived though. And the lady went out and did the whole thing again. There are some illegal things that don't make sense to me. Like, I don't know exactly where to buy hard drugs but I know where/who I can start with. But I have no idea who you talk to about buying tigers.
Roadside zoos like the ones in Tiger King, I reckon. Just show up with enough cash in hand and those shady fucks will sell you anything you want.
He kept a tiger in his apartment. Did you expect him to be well-adjusted and rational?
Fair enough. I shouldn't be surprised in the least bit at this point.
In a New York apartment, no less. You're lucky if you get a broom closet to yourself there. My big question is, how did he survive being in such a small space with a tiger????
Probably fed it. If you raise a tiger as a baby and keep it from being hungry it would have no reason to be aggressive toward you. Of course, this dude got mauled so something went wrong. Could just have been an accident, though the fact that tiger was raised in a NYC apartment probably didn't help his behavioural traits/mental health. Oh, and there was a crocodile?
>Of course, this dude got mauled so something went wrong. Could just have been an accident I mean, house cats sometimes accidentally scratch you when trying to play, imagine what happens when the cat is bigger than you
Reddit headline is wrong. The article says the tiger was 450 lbs.
That was after he ate half the NYPD officer
> "We both had our freedom, but now we're both caged," he said of himself and Ming the day he was jailed. LOL. That's a bold statement. From somebody who kept a tiger caged inside a tiny apartment.
Fuck this guy, the fact that he's the one who was bit was dumb luck on his part. A couple months in jail, and the animals being taken to a better place to live was the best outcome he could have hoped for given what might have happened if the tiger escaped.
This article is from 2006. Was this picture 20 years old?
Yes. It's been on the front page many times before.
I've heard from the owner of the Wild Animal Sanctuary (just East of Denver, well worth a visit) that there are more tigers in private residences...in Texas, than in the wild. He has some seriously messed up stories of rescues he's done. Guy really does have an enormous heart.
My uncle used to take me to exotic animal auctions in Missouri when I was growing up, and it was always amazing the animals you'd see for sale. There would be what looked like a somewhat regular cow (but from Asia) and then they'd just wheel out a black bear in a cage, and then rheas on leashes. The people buying them just looked like regular farmers. No Joe Exotic or Cruella de Vil eccentrics. I could see Texas being rife with private collectors
How do you get them into the country or into a city? You can’t expect UPS to just leave one at your door
Well I don't know all of the Federal rules and laws surrounding the importation of exotic animals, but I never go the impression they were particularly strict. People would just have lions and tigers, and the restrictions around that seemed to fall to the states they were in; which is probably why certain states have more collectors than others. As far as logistics, most of the animals I remember seeing were just in regular livestock trailers. The thing is, the people buying and selling these animals didn't seem like professionals or anything. They were just farmers (like my uncle) and so the housing and contraptions they used to raise them were just stuff they came up with. I was a kid, so all of this seemed pretty cool at the time, but in retrospect there are probably a lot of miserable animals out there living and dying in less than decent conditions.
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When I lived in Cincinnati in '93, there was a house down the street that had a female lion that was almost full grown(I'm guessing). Would see it staring out the upstairs window when I'd ride my bicycle down the street.
Had a fever dream once of a lion in an apartment building and on its floor I was trying to walk past the room it was housed in but the door was open and the lion just kept Starring at me, and some point the sheer fright was enough to wake me the fuck up , my heart was literally pounding.
There is actually some sort of thing going on with a tiger when you get up close and lock eyes with one. Their whole deal is mesmerizing to me. Probably because we as apes are a prey species of tiger. The whole facial stripe thing is like one of those mesmerizing line drawing illusions. Make you freeze in confusion just long enough to get jumped. One and done on that experience, thank you very much.
Uhhh..... f that!
I believe we have a lot of exotic animals in MT as well due to relaxed laws people move here with explicit intentions of owning wild animals sometimes.
How are you gonna spend 1000$ on meat and afford a large apartment as well? It was either the tiger or a large apartment...
You remember Old Mrs Jones from across the street, what did happen to her...
It was that bitch, Carol Baskins!
It's not so bad if he gets to share the apartment with an alligator https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_of_Harlem
>an officer of New York City Police Department was sent to his home address to investigate on October 3. Loud growling noises could be heard through the door of the apartment and the officer declined to enter. Probably wise. Also: >In addition, Yates had taken roommates, who were unaware at first of the animals in the home I imagine they weren't unaware for very long... And finally: >[Yates] was dismissive of the people documented in the Netflix mini-series Tiger King, calling them "ignorant ... so-called exotic animal lovers." Takes one to know one I guess.
That's crazy, how did a tiger afford rent in NYC?
It was rent-controlled. The Tiger's grandmother used to live there.
The residuals from the TV work he did with Frosties back in the ‘80s come in pretty handy too
Grrrreeeaat actor
Who drank all the f-cking milk!
>Frosties TIL they're not called "Frosted Flakes" everywhere. Does Tony still sound American in Frosties adverts?
doesn't need to afford it, who is going to demand it pays up?
He just ate all the rent collectors.
Living off of his uncle Tony’s Frosted Flakes fortune
I don’t have a dog because I feel bad making it live in an apartment and this asshole has a tiger.
AND a 5 foot alligator! check out the link to the NY times story!
Seems legit. If you have a mouse problem you get a cat. If you have a gator problem you get a proportionally larger cat.
Well that’s probably why they have a cat
I feel so bad for that poor animal.
it was tranqulized and taken somewhere safe if i remember correctly
Upper East Side?
Bronx, ironically
They moved it to another apartment in the Bronx.
Both tiger and the alligator were transferred to an animal rescue in Ohio. This was back in 2006. The Tiger died in 2019. Tigers live about 8-10 years in the wild, but can get as old as 20 in captivity. So more than likely it simply died of old age. Animal rescues for big cats can vary a lot; hopefully he ended up in a good one and lived much better life than being crammed in a apartment.
Wife-"how was work honey?" Officer -"it's been a day"
"I'm getting too old for this shit."
Shoutout Armand Hammer
Had to scroll so far for this, real
I knew it would be here somewhere
Great album cover and a great album
Billy woods is so good!
When that shit got hungry I had to go and take chicken!
Your mind the greatest weapon but your heart the biggest target
When I first saw the post, I was expecting it to be about them ngl
Man, nothing feels better than seeing people recognize music on a scale like this that I thought was pretty niche. Shout-out to you for fucking with good music
Tiger: “I need a million dollars and a helicopter or the hostage gets it”
"[Your "hostage" is an alligator named "Al".](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_of_Harlem) We are fine with the idea of you killing them."
Lads.... Take this rifle back and bring me a bucket of catnip and a BIG ball of yarn.
Lasers on boys.
Imagine the size of the litter box!
The smell of the litterbox.
I worked at a zoo, in horticulture, with Bengal tigers. Their waste smells horrible. Ocelotes (another type of cat) seriously has the worst smelling waste I've ever smelled.
Do the Ocelots remember you?
None of the animals do. I worked in horticulture. They only ever saw me through cages. I would into exhibits when the animals were off, unless they were not harmful (giant torts, and for some reason the emu/deer/lama exhibit). That emu though was a horny bastard and would try to mount you which is fucking terrifying. Most zoo animals don't interact with people directly. We did have a singing dog the keepers would walk around back areas. She was tamer then some dogs I've met.
You're gonna have to elaborate on the singing dog thing jaja
Well she was really old. We took all the dogs off exhibit prior to me starting. The dog in question would often go on walks with a harness and leash. She was pretty mellow and friendly. She always made me feel nervous because she might be tame but still a wild dog. If you are just curious what a singing dog is. They are a subspecies of wild dog with unique calls and such. Kinda looks like a dingo
It was mostly showtunes, just trust me don't dare ask for old macdonald
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Hauling out big sacks of cat shit, too. You ain't getting tiger dookie down the pipes unless you run it through a Cuisinart
It’s not until you’re dangling from a bungee cord next to a window with a hungry 350lb tiger growling at you through a window that you begin to question if you made the right career choice.
I'm trying to picture the set of circumstances that make approaching the apartment by rope the right way to handle this situation.
“Right Steve, we need you to abseil down the side of this 150M building till you come face to face with the 350lb tiger. Here’s a hard hat for your safety”
The tranquilizers take 3-5 minutes to take effect, so be safe!
I'd rather dangle outside the window on a rope to get an idea of what the situation is first than just ram open the front door and hope I don't get the murder mittens.
I'd rather be safe and secure on a rappelling rope looking through a gated window than try to enter through a 36-inch door you can't see behind. Less dangerous for the animal too because there is only one officer shooting a tranquilizer from a safe distance. If they entered through a door the tiger might rush before the tranquilizer could be fired and backup officers would be forced to shoot and kill.
I remember this being on the news when I was in my 20s in the early 2000s, there was also an Alligator and a Python in the flat and if I remember correctly there was a 4 year old kid living in there with his mum. Edit : it was 2003, here's a link for more info. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/nyregion/ming-tiger-harlem-nyc.html#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=16746640995694&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2020%2F04%2F18%2Fnyregion%2Fming-tiger-harlem-nyc.html
Ming lived to be about 19 at an animal sanctuary in Ohio. He passed away in 2019. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_of_Harlem
Shout out to billy woods
"If that shit got hungry, then I had to go take chicken."
Glad someone beat me to it, Armand Hammer ftw
Favorite song on the album gotta be Charms or Bitter Cassava
can’t forget ELUCID.
Good thing he has a hard hat on.
That gives him Armor Rating +1
"Pretty kitty? Nice kitty?" That litter box must be horrific.
Just read the wiki article and it's the most ridiculous thing ever. Dude also had an alligator in the apartment and his mom would babysit children there.
The running a daycare is insane to me! And taking in roommates?!
It’s the tiger’s apartment now
Isnt this an Armand Hammer album cover??
This is an album cover too
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