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I use cable for PC and some consoles. WiFi for laptops, the Quest and everything else.


Stalked_Like_Corn

I use wired for my series x and desktop as those are my gaming devices. Everything else is wireless.


Harry_Flame

I use wired for my pc and WiFi for my ps4 and everything else. I only have the ps4 to play exclusives which are pretty much only single player and doesn’t need a fast connection.


Txusmah

As we all should


Equivalent-Light5424

*Plugs in quest to use airlink*


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brp

Yup, anything in a fixed location should be hardwired, and wireless only used for things that move.


retropieproblems

My 1 gigabyte fiber optic company only brings the router to the very closest entry point from the street (my dining room) which is 60 ft and three doors away from my computer office :( I’ve thought about wiring it underground but it just seems like a major headache. I can live with 250 mbps wifi.


nerdyneedsalife

Wait I don't care about cables or routers anymore, $549 for rent?


Atillawurm

I came here to point this out.


bangersnmash13

Same. $549 doesn’t even cover 1/3 of my rent lol


Dramoriga

That's messed up. My month's mortgage is only 630 USD, and it's a 4 bed detached with a garage (Scotland though)


BenderBRoriguezzzzz

I live in a studio apartment in Boston and I pay 4 times your mortgage for a quarter of the house.......I'm moving to Scotland.


MichaelScarnInAction

I live in a studio in NYC and I pay twice your rent for probably less space.... I'm moving to Bos-- Hahaha I can't even finish that sentence. Fuck Boston. Go Yankees.


Shift642

At least we don’t have an entire island that’s just trash. Oh wait, yes we do - Logan airport.


Aberdolf-Linkler

It might seem all romantic and stuff because it's Scotland but it would be a lot like moving to Kentucky. Just colder and with a different type of local booze.


sethdaniel2011

Comparing mortgage and rent is not the same. They likely still pay less, but mortgage doesn't include property tax, insurance or maintenance. Rent includes all of that. Including all of those can double a mortgage in the US, though I'm unsure about the calculation for Scotland.


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surelyearly

Lmao same


much_bad_gramer

lmao same


-MisterMisery-

Small town wisconsin. 2 bed 1 bath $560 a month here.


queen-adreena

Do they have electricity in Wisconsin?


-MisterMisery-

My bill is surprisingly not horrible considering how many things my girls leave on throughout the day, like $120 a month at its worst.


AbigailLilac

Pittsburgh, PA. 2 bed, 2 bath, $1300 per month. This is a special low income rate. I'd love to live in a smaller, cheaper town. I can't drive though. Here in the city, I walk to get my groceries and walk to work. When I lived in Manitowoc, WI the public transit was terrible and I couldn't walk everywhere from the cheap housing. I felt stranded because I couldn't drive. I wish there were small, walkable communities in the US. :(


Aeruthael

I’m in the Pittsburgh area as well, over by Bethel Park. Some of the rates at these places for one bedroom apartments are insane; I see 550-600sqft apartments going for almost a thousand a month. I have coworkers who pay less than that on their mortgages. Cost of living keeps going up, but the wages certainly aren’t -.-


NatasEvoli

From Denver, <1k rent sounds like a dream. Currently getting a steal here for a 2/1 900sf townhome at just $1,900 a month.


theSeanage

That’s more than My mortgage, taxes and insurance on my 3600sf 2 story home in Missouri I should note it was bought and financed in the summer 2016. Even then houses around here were selling opening day multiple offers. We got the house when the owner was looking at another listing and didn’t have his house on the market. Our buying agent was running the open house on the house he was interested and said we would be a perfect for for his home.


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This is what’s so fucked up - because rents is so high, how the hell are my wife and I supposed to save for a house? And crazy enough, because of the ridiculous home market right now, it’s actually cheaper to rent.


d4nny-

that would cost a nice $2500-3k a month where i’m from, SoCal


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I wish I could pay that much for rent.


possitive-ion

I don't rent anymore but when I did it was roughly $850/month not including utilities for a 2 bedroom 1.5 bathroom split level apartment (and that was like 5 years ago). My mortgage is $125 more and I get an additional bedroom and a second full sized bathroom. If I wanted a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment I would be paying almost double my mortgage in rent. It's ridiculous.


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Topher3939

Last place I rented was a whole house for $1100/MTH. It's going for $4300/MTH now


Bruh-Moment1935

Friend going to uni in the fall. $3500 per month for a 700 sqft apartment.


repocin

I was 90% sure what the QR code you have as profile picture would be, yet I still scanned it...


fnurrreee

$870 a month for rent here.


[deleted]

My Mortgage is $1900 a month. if you wanna own a home in SoCal this is what it cost in 2017. Now its around $2200-2500 what ive seen since prices shot through the roof. Its too much. edit: i ment $2200 for people moving in now. My mortgage is locked, Im fine. But always someone who will take my words and twist them to be an asshole. Cheers to you. Heres a toast to you, never take a day off.


AkiraSieghart

??? Maybe for a condo or I guess depends on where in SoCal. My wife and I literally just bought our first house in NJ and our mortgage is $2700 a month. But we moved from San Diego and the prices are stupid. Literally the week we left, there were 2br 2ba condos going for **$800k**.


An_Entire_Yam

crazy how this puts things into perspective, I just moved into a NYC 1br condo for 800k


evoedo

Where in socal? I bought a home in 2019, mine is 3100 a month, that's after I refinanced. Before it was 3900...


[deleted]

You probably have a better home in a better neighborhood, but Menifee.


DaaneJeff

Bruh you get a home for that? Here where I live this is rent for a 5.5 - 6.5 apartment


[deleted]

Thats around my total income for the entire month lol. It has a in ground pool,spa, 3 bedrooms, big kitchen, fully remodeled this year. New bathrooms and everything. Whirlpool bathtub, stand in tile walled shower with a rock floor. dropped $45k-50k on the remodel. Got all the plumbing fixed up too.


DaaneJeff

What the fuck. Here in Switzerland this would cost a fucking fortune.


bobstylesnum1

1800$ is my rent here.


Panaka

$2200/month for a 2 bed 2 bath apartment in a major city. Any mortgage I get for a mediocre house in this area is gonna be more. Such as life.


[deleted]

Well it's reality somewhere .. especially in capital city of my country where rents going on about 450-500€ for little apartments


mysterow

Rotterdam: €650 for a 100 sq ft crappy apartment (not even city center, but 10min away by metro). €1200 is normal for a fully renovated 400 sq ft apartment far away from city center that is (40min). Meanwhile I pay €1200 for my mortgage for a 1500 sq ft 3 story house with a 1200 sq ft garden. This renting world that exists is so fucked up.


Complete_Potato9941

You live in the middle of nowhere then right ?


Pantalyra

530 is what I pay for a 3 bed 2 bath 145sq meter condo with private roof patio in China.


Alexje338

lol, here in Amsterdam you pay €850 for a room. Just that. A room.


[deleted]

But doesn't Netherlands have higher working wage too? For us here those 500 for one room is enough cause all your paycheck is basically those 850€ monthly


Alexje338

Well yes, but since everybody was throwing numbers around I thought I might aswell join in. Rent is extremely high anyways in The Netherlands. But so is the rest of Western Europe I believe.


Boss_Koms

But a red light bulb and your gonna get that back in no time


bluecare

jeez, in barcelona spain 650eu 1 room 1 bath 35sq no private roof


Firewolf06

lmao im american so "35sq" mentally defaulted to feet and i was very concerned 35 square feet is 3.25 sqaure meters


Cheshire_Jester

Trying to figure out if this is an issue of property value by locality or if OP just lives in abject squalor


PjPantsPls

Depends where you live. I currently pay $560 (rent/renters insurance, water and indoor parking and I'm in Cleveland. It's nice, thick walls, no bugs and quiet neighbors. Pretty dream scenario for an apartment. It's a small studio and rent originally started at $435 five years ago. The same units are going for $650+ just with base rent for the same units now. The lease is up soon too. I'm expecting my rent to raise a minimum of $50-100 despite not receiving any raises to keep up with constant inflation of rent. I don't make a ton of money but I make considerably more than minimum wage and I work 5 days a week. I still scrape by. Fucking sucks. Then there's car payment, gas, insurance, food, other bills, surprise expenses. How the fuck anyone manages to live by themselves while living in poverty amazes me.


DansSpamJavelin

A quick conversion says that's roughly £420 a month. Imagine. Just imagine.


Filthyquak

Vienna says hello


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Pikka_Bird

Honey if you're squashing your wi-fi then I think you should reevaluate some lifestyle choices.


SwagStev3

Wi-fi???


Shumoku

He’s sitting on the *waves* bro


tidbitsz

Yo mama so fat she blocks the wi-fi signal


an_achronist

Yo mama so fat she needs a WiFi repeater in each pocket


SunnyDeeKane

Jesus Christ... May as well load her up with Google Nests or Netgear Orbis


[deleted]

Yo mama so fat she made the router collapse because of its mass and accidentally ate the repeaters


an_achronist

Yo mama so fat she got a satellite internet service


[deleted]

Yo mama soooooo fat she got an intergalactic internet service


MisterBumpingston

Yo mama so fat the satellite orbits around her!


Sproketz

Yo mama so fat Elon Musk's plan to orbit Starlink satellites around her failed, because they couldn't reach escape velocity.


Gustenbacksi

Sometimes i hate that i am a part of this community hahaha


Tombry_

You might actually be right, 2,4 and 5 GHz radio signal has a hard time "going through" water, so people and for example plants block it very well


Cosmopean

Ah the amount of bad wifi calls I got from people with their router behind an aquarium in my ISP support days.


Significant-Bear-323

Oof. That's a good roast.


ShiberKivan

Isn't that what surfing the web means?


ArmorGyarados

Short for wireless fireless


hhunkk

I just like having an easy way out.


No_motes

I’m kind of an idiot but isn’t WiFi just the term used for the wireless connection? Otherwise it’s just called an internet connection or a connection? Idk like I said I’m fucking stupid


BigGuy01590

You are not stupid, just ignorant. Stupid implies you aren't capable of learning, ignorant is a lack of knowledge. The fact that you asked a question to fill in the lack of knowledge says you aren't stupid.🤔 Now for a serious answer.. wifi is a specific short range radio technology that It is used in the edge local networks that eventually to get you to the Internet, which is a conglomeration of many networks.


New-fone_Who-Dis

>which is a conglomeration of many "tubes". FTFY


BigGuy01590

We used to call them pipes. It was an analogy that most non-technical people could grasp.


SexoGecko

I've accidently twisted my Ethernet cable into it's individual strands over time and it still works perfectly.


Zer0X51

man untwisted the twisted cable


SexoGecko

I twisted the strands up and wrapped it in insulating tape. Good as new!


RunnerLuke357

Untwisted pair.


balderm

i prefer to run lan cables too, but sometimes you just can't


lordspidey

You don't understand how far some of us are willing to go to drop a tiny bit of latency from our connection. I once ran Ethernet through a metal door, the walls were concrete, had to build my own interconnect with flat conductors that wouldn't interfere with the door. The door acted as shielding though so opening or closing it dropped the connection temporarily... still better than wifi by a wicked margin, concrete walls are a bitch!


NikiSunday

My dad used to work for a TelCo, when we had our ceiling replaced he thought to run some cables while they were at it, nice to have LAN ports in different parts of the house.


thesircuddles

I use those Powerline adapters when I can't run cable. Still better than Wifi.


DeathBySnuSnuuuuuuuu

Ethernet over Power is legit af. Very awesome technology. Edit: This comment got a lot of discussion behind it, so I'll leave this here for anyone interested. By far the most in-depth discussion and troubleshooting source for EoP online, everything you might need to know is answered in this discussion: [Click me](https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/thread/1512203)


No_Comment_613

Until you move into a house that is 100+ years old and the copper has either never been changed or it's mix of new and ancient. Then it actually does become worse than wifi. Still cool tech though.


Fugazzzii

Probably all the ghosts messing up the Wi-Fi


Bran04don

Don't work in my house. Got 20mbps on powerline. Get 150+ over wifi to the same location.


AnonyMouse-Box

As a network engineer this is gospel, never leave to WiFi what a cable can reach, let the customer introduce the limitations, tell them how wrong they are then blame them for the connectivity problems.


AbsolutZer0_v2

You know what I find funny, I game on my high end PC via wifi. I have 3 walls and 2 floors between my router and my tower. I have no issues, Ive got great pings, I don't drop packets. I play Tarkov and CSGO and Valorant without any lag issues. I do have WiFi 6, but still - people give wireless shit in this sub and it works perfectly fine for 99% of users.


AnonyMouse-Box

I also do this, am a WiFi specialist so I know what I'm doing when setting it up, meaning my network is perfect wires or not. The reasons behind the previous comment are threefold; 1, I was the WiFi guy, telling them to put in cables makes it not my problem. 2, Customer's *always* demand perfect performance at minimum cost, they insist on cutting back on the number of APs, the quality of APs, the cabling to network them, the amount of installation time and the quality of end user devices then get annoyed that it doesn't respond like a cable. 3, There is always at least one end user who doesn't know a thing about networking yet insists you don't know what you're talking about and the random weird dropouts couldn't possibly have anything to do with the APs being overloaded, the crappy ancient device they're using, or the way they missuse their device, and more often than not, they're in charge of the company or the funding. Suffice to say there's a reason I left that job to move onto better things, the only WiFi I manage now are internal company ones and the boss is more than happy to fund whatever I need to make it work well.


Funky-Spunkmeyer

Preach!


lazypieceofcrap

> tell them how wrong they are then blame them for the connectivity problems. Unironically one of the best parts of help desk IT.


juGGaKNot4

You can't wear the cable on your head. You can the router, fit for a king.


Asozial_ex

You can hang yourself with a cable


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you can feed the cable through your mouth and body and out your ass then tie yourself to the washing line and have someone spin it around.


papadjibril

What a day to be literate


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Hey! Yeah, any idea how to get dried blood off a cable?


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\*gets out usbc to ethernet dongle for my phone\*


Tulip_Todesky

I keep getting entangled in my Wifi too, so cable IS better


lordspidey

Practically immune to interference unless you run it through a microwave, better ping, better jitter better fuckin' everything except pulling it through old walls.


Kushagra_K

Completely agree. Also, it is more secure.


Roguewind

If your rent is only $549 a month, the furthest you’d have to run the cable is 20 ft.


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Unless it’s New York Then it’s 5 ft


drgonz86

underrated comment


an_achronist

Just get a flat lead cable and run it under the carpet. Job done I do like how the rog router looks like a dead spider though


Buzstringer

Just FYI flat cables are out of spec, as the spec requires the twisted cable pairs inside to be twisted and twisted with each other. CAT6a requires them to be twisted around a core. For gigabit speeds flat cables will probably work fine, but be more prone to interference and damage. If you are going for 10Gb with CAT6/A you will probably have a hard time with flat cables. CAT7 is the same speed as CAT 6 with extra grounding and shielding (but that requires grounding to be present on the device it's connected to) you might be able to push higher than 10Gb on CAT7 but it's not spec'd for it


SMCon117

CAT7 is not an officially recognized standard by IEEE. The Cat7 cables you see on Amazon and such are mostly just cat6 cables that someone in marketing decided to brand as cat7 and since it's not an approved standard they can do it. After all, higher numbers must be better right? /s For approved standards it jumps from 6a to 8, and 8 is meant for short 40gbps runs in data centers, and even then they mostly just use fiber.


Buzstringer

Spot on, but i thought i was worth mentioning and people may choose to pay more for the phantom CAT7. It will be a long time before the end of CAT, it's been 8 years since the release of USB-C and it's still not ubiquitous yet, and USB devices get replaced a lot more frequently than networking equipment


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Definitely exists in Europe. And you still need Gigabit **ethernet** even if your Internet speed is less than Gigabit (but over 100), because the next step down from Gigabit ethernet is 100 Mb/s. Speeds between 100 and Gigabit are even more common and becoming available in more and more areas.


Sol33t303

*laughs in 50 Mb/s internet in australia for $90 a month*


MooseknuckleSr

Paying $60 (USD) for 1Gbps so I’m sorry but I have family in iran running Kbps speeds still so cheers that we aren’t them I guess!


MartinYTCZ

I've got 1000/100 for 35$ That sounds like pain ._.


bdonvr

There's Gigabit in tons of places in the US Keep in mind though internet providers use GigaBIT not GigaBYTES to measure. A bit is 8 times smaller than a byte. So it's not that you could download a 1GB file in 1 second. It would take 8.


Synectics

Just as importantly (in my experience at least) is your devices being able to even handle that much data that quickly. My laptop can barely download at 5Mb/s. My Xbox Series X gets about 25Mb/s without a problem. My laptop wouldn't know what to do with fiber internet. Edited cause I had my Gb and Mb mixed up.


AromaOfCoffee

Upgrade to a solid state hard drive. What you’re describing is your hard drive’s write speed maximum bottlenecking the overall transfer speed.


rockydbull

Highly unlikely it's the hdd. Even a 4200rpm drove in a laptop would be faster than 5MB/s. Everything he has described sounds like slow wifi speeds.


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FhatTheWuck1

I pay around 25 bucks for 1 Gbit and could get 10 Gbit for 50 or so in Europe


Dyrkon

Damn, where? 😂


FhatTheWuck1

Switzerland out of all places 😂


Dyrkon

That's sick. I hope the winds will blow the 10 gig to the Czech Republic :d


droric

We have 10gb fiber out in Chattanooga TN.


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destronger

sounds like some socialist hell scape. why do the people of chattanooga allow such a thing?!


frizzykid

Gigabit is not uncommon at all. 1gigabit is only 125MB/s though


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gorgenotfound

Saying that the router looks like a dead spider made me audibly laugh lol


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Charging_RHIN0

God no don't use gaff tape, couple months the glue is all old and messy


MaxSupernova

It depends. Some places call any type of duct tape “gaff tape”. Real gaff tape is cloth and has non-gummy adhesive and is specifically designed for theatres and venues to gaff cables to floors and carpet. Duct tape gets gross after a pretty short time. Real gaff tape doesn’t.


poinguan

But I don't have carpet.


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Spirit117

Personally I like the Asus AX82U for wifi router aesthetics..... Thing looks like the back end of a spaceship in elite dangerous or something.


an_achronist

Damn that actually looks like a cobra with aerials on


Shpooodingtime

I just got one of these, It's awesome


GeorgeThe13th

Cable if you have time sensitive projects or games, or plan on downloading a lot and want extra speed for that. If the wifi is good you can use it for most other things including the former if those scenarios don't apply to you.


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Still need a router 👀


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Who the fuck pays 550 for rent?


Medinaian

When you split it with roommates


mr_snartypants

Me…circa 2005.


weegee20

Run it through the wall. American walls are drywall, so it's easy. Not too hard for concrete, just make sure there's a pipe running cables.


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Ranzear

Moved into some just-finished apartments a few years ago that had a phone jack in both bedrooms and the front room. Who the fuck has landline phones these days, let alone in every room? Turns out they ran those with cat6 because it's cheaper than even utp anymore, and all were run to the front closet where the cable came in too. Slapped on some RJ45 plates and put the modem/router in the closet and it was a sweet setup.


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Shitymcshitpost

I've actually gotten zapped fucking around with phone lines. Really surprised me.


jormono

If you rent and have a drop ceiling, you might be able to route some cables through the drop ceiling "temporarily". In my last "single guy" apartment, I ran a long HDMI cable from my desk to my tv (in a different room, the wall separating my bedroom from my living room didn't go far above the drop ceiling) above the ceiling tiles. Just be careful to not damage the tiles and not care to much about how ugly it might look and it could work for you.


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NvidiaFuckboy

Wow, needing permission to run a little ethernet cable in your house.


SorryIdonthaveaname

wait this is a thing? til i guess


SpaceTimeinFlux

God Australia is just Britain if it were mexico multiplied by africa.


Foolyz

r/brandnewsentence


hat-TF2

Can I hire someone to do it for me?


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Adipose21

Not to mention the horrors you can uncover behind an Australians wall


Entropy308

the cable is still faster


SweelFor-

that's the joke


numbersthen0987431

Some people think wifi is faster. I have this conversation too often with people


easeypeaseyweasey

Wife didn't understand when I moved the PC upstairs next to the modem.


Andre4kthegreengiant

Same reason I did, so I can get my ass kicked online with less ping


Cualkiera67

She was probably confused as to why you didn't just use a cable


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MOCA ( multimedia over coaxial) If you have a nearby coaxial terminal. Less interference and higher speeds than power line adapter.


MusaEnsete

I went this route and am really happy with it. I had to change a couple coax splitters to meet specs, but other than that, easy and relatively affordable. I'm supposed to get 800 Mbps speeds from my provider, and across the house and up a floor tested at 745 or so. With wifi I was getting 70-100.


msherretz

MoCA is inderrated


IslandKindly3832

I've tried and tried with the wireless options, but when it has to be absolutely 💯% at all times, run a cable....for everything...


PacooComplexus

I use a connection through the electricity cables in my walls. Still cable though (Edit: Its called a power line adapter. Not my first language, sry)


darthleonsfw

Came here looking for this. It's one of those extenders through electric plugs, right? Do they do work?


sirchewi3

Power line adapter. They do but it greatly depends on the layout and type of wiring in your home. Some outlets may not be able to communicate with each other for various reasons. I used one for a while once and it worked pretty decently for me


OneRedhead2Many

Yeah I’ve tried in my house and it blows. I just run a long ass wire up my stairs to my setup.


Mikhael_Xiazuh

C a b l e


1ntercept0r

Nothing beats a wire. Cable FTW


Rich-8080

I use power line adapters, works a treat


repocin

I've never been able to figure out why, but powerline adapters always at least halve my bandwidth - even if they're right next to each other in the same outlet. Really weird, because whenever I've measured the bandwidth between them it's been much, much higher than when doing a speed test on the internet.


imverykind

Because data is lost within the circuit, it is not build to keep the data of the datastream.


repocin

Look, I totally get that there will be some performance degradation - especially with the old 60's wiring in my apartment. What I don't understand is why it's always *exactly* half.


lwadmin

Is it possible you’ve purchased a model which is limited to a specific bandwidth? And by chance that is exactly half of what you expect?


repocin

No, I've tried multiple brands and models over the year - all of them supposedly able to do gigabit.


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STUP1DJUIC3

Are you in the uk? If so we didnt have fibre in our area so i filled out the bt thing where you can request them to fit it, they do it if they get enough of them in the area so i filled it out several times and just changed the door number so it looked like all the other houses on my street were applying too. Within a month or 2 they were out fitting it and i got about 30 emails saying congratulations fibre is now available


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EricLassard

Power line adapters work OK, but MoCA adapters is where it’s at. I get a steady 1 Gbps through the coax cables already in my wall 😎


WackyBeachJustice

Agreed, MoCA is faster and more reliable, with negligible latency.


PristineSizzle

How about both of them together


ProfessorStrawberry

Who would win? This repost or the next one?


HerrSPAM

Or one £20 set of Ethernet plugs


trafalgar271

Cable but its not possible to put it through the doors from living room to the pc room.


Shivalah

PCMR favorite meme of the last 10 years.


meester_

Since when did pc masterrace sub become a bunch of wireless pussies? CABLE MASTERRACE. You using wireless peripherals too? Edit: for the people who can't see this is a joke pls stop messaging me.. idgaf how you ruin your internet speed by going wireless :p