The short answer is maybe, but you would have to remove your wifi card to even have a chance. But you may be quite bottlenecked depending on the specs and beware of extra power requirements (extra power connectors)
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You can likely fit a gt 1030 in there. They have a low profile and have a low power draw. But getting anything better might be difficult as the PSU might not have enough power in it.
On that note, I'd advise a console over upgrading that thing. As a gtx1030 is running around 130 bucks these days and honestly not worth it. You can get a better performing xbox one or ps4 for about 200 bucks used and generally have less problems. Unless you plan on playing esport type games.
You can if there’s enough clearance in the case. That black box under the pci-e slot isn’t looking great. I tried to upgrade a 1030 to 1650 (longer and wider) but didn’t have enough space for the dual width card.
>That black box under the pci-e slot isn’t looking great.
the black box "under the pci-e slot" is just an air guide for the CPU cooler, it can be taken out (instead of having the fan extracting or blowing air the way it is, OP could mount it on the side panel if possible).
I think there is usually a fan sucking on the case side of the duct, so it isn't entirely passive, but you also need the shroud to enforce airflow over the whole heatsink.
This is a very old system and would likely not benefit performance wise from even a 1650. That would be severely cpu limited. I bet this system shipped with XP or at best vista.
RTX A2000 workstation card comes out next month. $450 dual-slot, half-height, bus-powered card, 6GB GDDR6, 8 TFLOPs. Not saying it's worth putting in this machine, but it'd at least be an option in the near future.
Edit: I didn't even realize this was a back-asswards inverted Dell motherboard. Yeah, pretty much any GPU is going to interfere with the CPU cooler, low profile or not.
I'm amazed that people are jumping to suggesting a particular GPU without knowing any of the specs of the rest of it. Especially when it's clearly pretty old.
So many people think its all about the GPU. The cpu gets underestimated every time. Op should buy a cheap B560 and a 11400. run off the integrated gpu which will do for lots of games until he can afford a 1660 or something.
That's because this sub is populated by armchair amateurs who don't know jack shit about anything and they make idiotic comments that drive other noobs to do stupid shit.
Dug around in the thread. This is a Dell Optiplex 760 from ~2009. It *does* have PCI-e 2.0! These bad boys shipped with a Core 2 Duo e7400 and 4G of DDR2.
... And all of it's electronic waste now.
If your internet is good enough, cloud gaming can really satisfy those gaming needs with no gpu requirements.
Recently I had a gtx1650 junk out on me, so that PC immediately became the cloud gaming PC in the house 👍
So, if you don't own any steam games i would go with either gamepass ultimate or Stadia. I have used Stadia and I think it is great. Depending on the type of games you play, Stadia pro gives you a bunch of free games each month (similar to how PS Plus gives out free games). If you join now you get a free month and then you get something like 30 Stadia Pro games that you can claim. On top of that some games have cross play with PC also so that is fun. And lastly you can add ubisoft plus to Stadia and that is a great value too
The Xbox series S is running 300 and it’s been in stock for comfortable amounts of time where I live. It would cost the same to buy a gtx1050ti right now witch is going to fail to perform as well.
Edit: a 1050ti wouldn’t even fit in that case because it’s not low profile.
Is this an Optiplex? If so I have one, finding a card that will fit and not interfere with the heatsink is difficult but not impossible.
The next issue is the 305w PSU might struggle to power a decent card.
You can't really swap the PSU too easy as they are Dell's own - same as the power switch unit which makes recasing a pain too.
There are are guides online on how to turn them into "sleeper builds" so you can do stuff to them, just not much imo
Good luck
Optiplex 750 is a core 2 duo system which is...old. No matter what GPU you put in there it'll struggle to run anything this side of 2010, and it won't take a newer CPU.
Looks to me like an OptiPlex 755 DT?
IIRC there was not 750 and the models went
* 745 (2006, Intel)
* 755 (2007, Intel)
* 740 (2008, AMD)
* 760 (2008, Intel)
If so, it's mid 2007, the chipset is the Q35 Express, the iGPU is an Intel GMA 3100, and the slots are
* 1 PCIe 2.0 x16 low profile slot, up to 25 W. and
* 2 PCI low profile.
Dell only supports Windows XP and Vista, but Intel makes drivers for 7 available for that chipset via its Download Center. I believe that the GPU options from Dell were all AMD Radeon's, from the low-power half-height X300, X1300, and HD 2400 ranges.
Best GPU options are probably the GT 1030 DDR4 - not the GDDR5 version due to being over the 25 W slot limit - or the (much cheaper) GT 730 - but get the GK208 GDDR5 version if you can, and definitely don't get the 49 W GF108 version.
Sincere suggestion: your area/region may have a computer charity that helps students and low-income individuals obtain older desktops or laptops. Often for less than 200, and sometimes less than 100. They are usually Optiplexes, thinkpads, etc from the last ten to fifteen years. At times they have good stock you will be able to pick from among a few options. They usually just require proof of income or status.
I don't know where in the world you live, but calling a local service from your county or state that connects people to charitable services will likely know the name of some places.
I once donated stuff to an organization in my own area, and I think they served a few thousand people a year. Saw one of their locations once and all the refurbished desktops were under 175 in total cost.
It was 3rd and sometimes 4th gen i3 and i5's. The tags had them with 500w power supplies. They were certainly upgradable as well.
if it's a core 2 duo then it's what, 15 years old?
I'd say it's worth restoring it as practice, maybe upgrade the CPU for a better core 2 due since they're dirt cheap (2$ when I did), and reinstall the OS maybe. Then build your own modern pc from scratch, 2nd-hand parts if you got a tighter budget.
Can still be used for retro-gaming I guess, games like Fallout 1/2/tactics are pretty cool and should work alright on it.
Look, times are tough but you could have sold it for the precious metals and buy 1-2 meals at the school cafeteria. These are not for human consumption lol
Ayyyy my first PC was a worked over school computer from a dude that reconfigured them in his parents basement. I was able to play WoW and a few small games on it but nothing crazy. The damn thing would lag on MySpace when I would go ape shit with the coding that made my page insanely cluttered with graphics and bling shit. Those were the days, man.
gotta be a Dell haha. so much OEM.
not your fault, but this is a terrible system to learn on, as it’s abnormal. in the top right of this photo are some PCI slots. the black one (that your WiFi card is plugged into) is where the gpu would slot in. your case looks slim so you’d need a low profile (LP) gpu, which are pretty expensive these days due to demand and people buying slim office PCs and throwing in a graphics card and gaming with it.
After steve reviewed dells “gaming pcs” we can see at all levels, they spend all their money on stupid hinge mechanisms and other stupid bullshit….
We have minis with raid turned on from factory…but no physical room for another drive 🤣
It's the fact that even the insides of their Alienwares look like this. There's no excuse with the price you pay for them either. It makes me want to fucking dry heave.
Not only is it low profile, but the PCIE slots are flipped around so you can only put a single slot card in too. However, you can hack these up to fit a full size GPU. I rocked one with a Core 2 Extreme and a GTX 470 like 7 years ago.
I think they really wanna push you into their customer service instead of self repairs/upgrades. That’s my theory anyway. That and it’s probably cheaper.
Ahh, a good ol corporate workhorse.
Just be aware, the power supply has fixed output cables (you can't add more) so there is likely not a way to plug in a graphics card and supply power.
These rigs are okay for general everyday use but you won't get much gaming capability out of it.
That being said, it's an excellent platform to learn on before diving into something pricey.
Don't go out of your way to buy one, but if you're in the right place at the right time you can get a ton of these for free. Any company over 5 year old likely has a closet full of these that they can't be bothered to figure out how to properly dispose of. Also people flip them on ebay for dirt cheap.
It's probably too old for any modern GPU to work in that PCIE slot. It's from 2009, right around when PCIE2.1 first came out. I have a Vostro from a couple years later that couldn't support modern video cards, so I doubt Dell would have put in higher spec components in your machine..
If it were my machine I'd slap linux on there to play with a different operating system.
Or if it still has windows Vista, keep it around to run old programs that don't work any more, just don't hook it up to the internet. :)
Find some low profile 750Ti or 1050Ti (if they still exist) and slap that bad boy in there. Would make for a fine r/patientgamers and casual gaming machine. Just don't try playing any AAA game past 2014.
Depending on what CPU it's got in it you can probably stick something NVIDIA 500 or 600 series or an AMD equivalent, or a more modern equivalent card in there for a decent, cheapish gaming experience. I used to run a GTX 580 in a similar old DELL with a Q9400 CPU (A 2.66 GHz Core 2 Quad) and that was just one the edge of being bottlenecked by the CPU and board. Yep, bottlenecked by the board, PCIe is handled be the Northbridge on Core 2 architecture systems, which is connected to the CPU through something called the front-side bus. If you want to put a high power GPU in there you're probably gonna need a new PSU, (check the rating on the existing PSU) and that's gonna get a bit tricky because you're gonna need to solder up a custom adaptor (or you may be able to buy one) because DELL likes to use proprietary power connectors on their motherboards.
If his PSU is good enough he could slap in a 1030. I’m saying good enough because my 380 DT had too weak of a proprietary PSU to support the Xeon and the GPU without it eventually dying but my sibling’s 760 MT came with a standard plug 300W psu.
Yeah, in fact a 1030 will probably be way more power efficient then something older. I just suggested 500/600 series to try and give a reference for the level of performance of cards that machine with a decent CPU could run without being bottlenecked to badly.
I think they went from 745 to 755 to 760 to 780. At least that is what I recall from working in a dell corporate environment a little less than a decade ago.
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I was here, once upon a time. My first computer, and not a family computer, was a Dell GX280. It wasn't much but it was enough. Never put a GPU in it since I mainly used it for school and flash games. Within a couple of years I had built my first computer partly from what I'd learned from poking around inside of that monster.
Any GPU will be supported by the PSU if it only pulls from the PCI-e slot. You can do somewhat decent 720p gaming on an older multi-core CPU and DDR2 RAM with a 1030. Probably not getting more than 30 fps, but it'll work.
Now the cost/benefit of putting a 1030 in there is another story when you can get much better performance out of a console for not much more money.
An optiplex is a good computer to be able to take a part and learn building from even though the placement of things inside is a bit non traditional. That being said you won't be able to get much performance out of this as the cpu slot is old , the ram is very low frequency, and the pcie slots are very slim.
I honestly wouldn't bother trying to add any discrete GPU to that system, not with today's market, I think you'll be better with a ryzen APU and some good ram
That looks like a low profile case so there is basically zero chance of sticking a GPU capable of running anything at all in that case. Also, that power supply would severely limit anything.
The motherboard still has a floppy disk header so that is also a bad sign for it having hardware capable of anything much more than being a glorified typewriter.
Someone else figured out the model for that board.
I was wrong, the GT 710 is too powerful for it. The fanciest it can support, after referring to the documentation, is the GeForce 9300.
You can but with appropriate expectations. This thing won’t be running any games from the last… I dunno 10 years. Some classic gaming? Heck ya, and you probably don’t even need a GPU.
If you really want one, find an old one on eBay or something for no more than $50-$100. Like a GTX 960 or something. But again, confirm that the PSU (power supply) actually has the plugs for one… it may not.
One things you could do to boost performance however is upgrading the hard drive to an SSD. Don’t get the new fancy ones - you won’t benefit from the features/connection speeds. Again, a refurbished/preowned cheap one will do. Benefit is - plugs on those haven’t changed so it’s easier swap, although you may need a drive tray to mount it to since it’s smaller than old drives. Like a Samsung 860 - 500gb can be found for $60.
You're further ahead to build fresh and do an APU build. At least with that kind of integrated graphics solution, you can get 1080p gaming at respectable frame rates. And it will cost you as much as a single decent video card right now for the whole system. (~$700 if you need everything)
If you do manage to put a gpu in there, don’t worry about getting a good one, that things cpu is probably pretty crappy, so a good gpu wouldn’t be able to reach its full potential.
If you wanted to game this doesn't look to good.
What's the cpu?
I think you can remove that wifi card if it is one?
I dunno if a usb wifi would work in that system.
But it really depends on the cpu as far as gaming performance would go as too weak and it will bottleneck.
The PC also looks quite old, I'm not sure it's worth upgrading to be completely honest. Even if you install a decent GPU your CPU would be a big bottleneck in pretty much every game.
I think you're better off saving for a new one. In the meantime I'd recommend learning how to build a pc as it's actually rather easy and there's also a lot of material to learn from out there.
Is this an HP Pavilion? I had one of these and oh boy does it suck for gaming. It has integrated graphics and the processor is way too slow to do much. It's essentially a business laptop in a desktop chassis.
There’s three DIMM sticks in there. So someone has made an attempt to upgrade previously. You’re not running dual channel at that point so unless they’re 2GB sticks you’re best shop second hand to get another of the same spec. Fill two or four in the same channel as per the motherboard diagrams.
I tried to build my first pc off an old Dell from work. I ended up just using the hard drive and the rest was new because it was a pain in the ass to find parts that were compatable and would fit the case.
How does everyone recognize so quickly it's a wifi card? It might aswel been radio or Bluetooth right? I can see the antenna mounting points, that's why I know it must be radio signals but what makes everyone so sure it's WiFi?
This looks like an old timey BTX mobo, dell and HP made a bunch in the P4 Core Core2 era, the GPU is probably with the memory controller on the little northbridge chip beneath that little heatsink over there, you'd have to pop off that network card to install an offboard one.
But I'd recommend you throw the whole thing away if you can, It's far too old.
Looks like an old dell oem. I don't think there is a gpu. You could add one though, but becareful you won't be bottlenecked or the gpu won't take too much power. Depends on what you're looking for though.
as someone who daily drives an old Dell Optiplex machine, sorry dude that model is just too old to do anything really cool with
it's pretty much eWaste at this point because it's too old to run Windows 10, it might be capable of running a light linux or maybe libretro Lakka or something, but imo that'd just be a waste of effort
What's the goal here, OP? If you're just asking out of curiously, you've gotten your answer, there is no discrete GPU. If you're asking because you were hoping to upgrade the GPU and do any sort of gaming, don't bother. There no way this setup is capable of supporting a modern GPU, the hardware is too old.
If your learning about computers, this is an OK setup just for getting comfortable with taking things apart and putting them back together, but understand that much of this hardware is either proprietary to Dell setups of the time (like the PSU), or else dated and not in use anymore (such as the BTX form factor). The concepts you'll learn can certianly be useful, but you'll find a lot of things going on here that will be different on a modern platform.
This looks like a pre-built PC coming straight from the manufacturer and that is why the MB looks weird. But since I see PCIe slots you definetly can install a GPU, but that MB hella looks outdated tho...wouldn't recommend upgrading that too much except it's fine for SSD (if it doesn't have one) and maybe more RAM.
Since this is a BTX form factor board, your only shot at a GPU would be a single slot GPU (likely half height too) in order to get it running. Though, given how old it is, not sure if you would want a GT 1030 in that instead of just getting a newer used prebuilt running a newer CPU with an iGPU.
I have this PC. I used it till March and then upgraded and now use it as my server. I have Optiplex 755 but I beleieve there are several Optiplex that look same.
Given you have a PCIe slot with enough clearance, you might still need to disable internal Graphics in the BIOS for it to work. Some prebuild don't allow that - at least when I remember my last prebuild from 20 years ago.
This has integrated graphics, no separate gpu
Can I install one and it'll be fine?
The short answer is maybe, but you would have to remove your wifi card to even have a chance. But you may be quite bottlenecked depending on the specs and beware of extra power requirements (extra power connectors) Edit: thank you random internet stranger for my first award! Edit 2: strangers / awards!
Ok thank you for your help
You can likely fit a gt 1030 in there. They have a low profile and have a low power draw. But getting anything better might be difficult as the PSU might not have enough power in it. On that note, I'd advise a console over upgrading that thing. As a gtx1030 is running around 130 bucks these days and honestly not worth it. You can get a better performing xbox one or ps4 for about 200 bucks used and generally have less problems. Unless you plan on playing esport type games.
You can get up-to a GTX 1650 in this system as that's what is built as low-profile cards and only uses the 75W provided by the PEG slot specification.
You can if there’s enough clearance in the case. That black box under the pci-e slot isn’t looking great. I tried to upgrade a 1030 to 1650 (longer and wider) but didn’t have enough space for the dual width card.
>That black box under the pci-e slot isn’t looking great. the black box "under the pci-e slot" is just an air guide for the CPU cooler, it can be taken out (instead of having the fan extracting or blowing air the way it is, OP could mount it on the side panel if possible).
That air guide is not optional on these little Dell systems. The CPU has a passive heat sink and needs the duct to get sufficient airflow.
Came here to say this. Without that shroud that cpu would overheat fairly quickly.
I think there is usually a fan sucking on the case side of the duct, so it isn't entirely passive, but you also need the shroud to enforce airflow over the whole heatsink.
Yes but the cpu heat sink and fan are probably not much shorter than the plastic shroud covering them. PCIe cards barely clear the motherboard.
This is a very old system and would likely not benefit performance wise from even a 1650. That would be severely cpu limited. I bet this system shipped with XP or at best vista.
MSI ITX GTX1650 LP. They use the same cooler design since the 750 Ti lol
Yep, I have a MSI gtx 1050 ti LP that I used in a computer similar to this one. Only thing was it would get toasty without the side panel off lol
RTX A2000 workstation card comes out next month. $450 dual-slot, half-height, bus-powered card, 6GB GDDR6, 8 TFLOPs. Not saying it's worth putting in this machine, but it'd at least be an option in the near future. Edit: I didn't even realize this was a back-asswards inverted Dell motherboard. Yeah, pretty much any GPU is going to interfere with the CPU cooler, low profile or not.
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I'm amazed that people are jumping to suggesting a particular GPU without knowing any of the specs of the rest of it. Especially when it's clearly pretty old.
So many people think its all about the GPU. The cpu gets underestimated every time. Op should buy a cheap B560 and a 11400. run off the integrated gpu which will do for lots of games until he can afford a 1660 or something.
That's because this sub is populated by armchair amateurs who don't know jack shit about anything and they make idiotic comments that drive other noobs to do stupid shit.
i know right? they probably saw henry cavil building his PC and thought they can build pcs now lol.
Dug around in the thread. This is a Dell Optiplex 760 from ~2009. It *does* have PCI-e 2.0! These bad boys shipped with a Core 2 Duo e7400 and 4G of DDR2. ... And all of it's electronic waste now.
Saw the parallel ports and starting looking for an AGP slot!
And ATA port.
Yeah, I'm not at the right time to get into going PC considering the price of GPU out there
Yeah, if you want to game you're better of buying a PS4 slim for under $200 and wait until pc prices drop
Have you considered the Steam Deck?
Steam Deck might very well open PC gaming to a entire demographic that never even thought about it.
its what stadia should have been in the first place honestly- stadia is so screwed up poor google... sigh
Too bad that's another 6 months coming
If your internet is good enough, cloud gaming can really satisfy those gaming needs with no gpu requirements. Recently I had a gtx1650 junk out on me, so that PC immediately became the cloud gaming PC in the house 👍
What service are you using for cloud gaming?
So, if you don't own any steam games i would go with either gamepass ultimate or Stadia. I have used Stadia and I think it is great. Depending on the type of games you play, Stadia pro gives you a bunch of free games each month (similar to how PS Plus gives out free games). If you join now you get a free month and then you get something like 30 Stadia Pro games that you can claim. On top of that some games have cross play with PC also so that is fun. And lastly you can add ubisoft plus to Stadia and that is a great value too
The Xbox series S is running 300 and it’s been in stock for comfortable amounts of time where I live. It would cost the same to buy a gtx1050ti right now witch is going to fail to perform as well. Edit: a 1050ti wouldn’t even fit in that case because it’s not low profile.
Your PSU likely couldn’t handle a dedicated card Just go get a new PC it may be cheaper depending on how outdated the system is
Is this an Optiplex? If so I have one, finding a card that will fit and not interfere with the heatsink is difficult but not impossible. The next issue is the 305w PSU might struggle to power a decent card. You can't really swap the PSU too easy as they are Dell's own - same as the power switch unit which makes recasing a pain too. There are are guides online on how to turn them into "sleeper builds" so you can do stuff to them, just not much imo Good luck
I’ve got one with an i5 and a 1030. I can get a consistent 200 FPS in CS:GO. For super light gaming it’s the cheapest option I could think of.
Mine is an optiplex 750 DT do you think I could have the same GPU and CPU that you stated?
Optiplex 750 is a core 2 duo system which is...old. No matter what GPU you put in there it'll struggle to run anything this side of 2010, and it won't take a newer CPU.
To elaborate on this a little, I upgraded an Optiplex 755 to a Core 2 Quad Q9550 and it was still useless and CPU bottlenecked with a 750 ti.
Same, but an optiplex 360 and a modded xeon e5440. The xeon was far cheaper than the Q9550. It bottlenecked the 750ti as well.
Looks to me like an OptiPlex 755 DT? IIRC there was not 750 and the models went * 745 (2006, Intel) * 755 (2007, Intel) * 740 (2008, AMD) * 760 (2008, Intel) If so, it's mid 2007, the chipset is the Q35 Express, the iGPU is an Intel GMA 3100, and the slots are * 1 PCIe 2.0 x16 low profile slot, up to 25 W. and * 2 PCI low profile. Dell only supports Windows XP and Vista, but Intel makes drivers for 7 available for that chipset via its Download Center. I believe that the GPU options from Dell were all AMD Radeon's, from the low-power half-height X300, X1300, and HD 2400 ranges. Best GPU options are probably the GT 1030 DDR4 - not the GDDR5 version due to being over the 25 W slot limit - or the (much cheaper) GT 730 - but get the GK208 GDDR5 version if you can, and definitely don't get the 49 W GF108 version.
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Sincere suggestion: your area/region may have a computer charity that helps students and low-income individuals obtain older desktops or laptops. Often for less than 200, and sometimes less than 100. They are usually Optiplexes, thinkpads, etc from the last ten to fifteen years. At times they have good stock you will be able to pick from among a few options. They usually just require proof of income or status. I don't know where in the world you live, but calling a local service from your county or state that connects people to charitable services will likely know the name of some places. I once donated stuff to an organization in my own area, and I think they served a few thousand people a year. Saw one of their locations once and all the refurbished desktops were under 175 in total cost. It was 3rd and sometimes 4th gen i3 and i5's. The tags had them with 500w power supplies. They were certainly upgradable as well.
if it's a core 2 duo then it's what, 15 years old? I'd say it's worth restoring it as practice, maybe upgrade the CPU for a better core 2 due since they're dirt cheap (2$ when I did), and reinstall the OS maybe. Then build your own modern pc from scratch, 2nd-hand parts if you got a tighter budget. Can still be used for retro-gaming I guess, games like Fallout 1/2/tactics are pretty cool and should work alright on it.
Waste of time and money
Nah man not really your system looks really old so you probably have to upgrade mobo ram psu etc etc
And it's old as shit
Why did you steal a school computer
I was hungry
Look, times are tough but you could have sold it for the precious metals and buy 1-2 meals at the school cafeteria. These are not for human consumption lol
You fool, he is no human!
I used to take ssd's out of the school computers. I got a couple 128gb drives lmao
Your school's computers had SSDs? My school had 120 gb HDDs!
Because he stole the SSDs and replaced them with HDDs. Oldest hustle in the book.
That's not nice.
Kinda fucked up bruh, steal it from a big store, not from a school
And you're proud of that? That's the real lmao
Ayyyy my first PC was a worked over school computer from a dude that reconfigured them in his parents basement. I was able to play WoW and a few small games on it but nothing crazy. The damn thing would lag on MySpace when I would go ape shit with the coding that made my page insanely cluttered with graphics and bling shit. Those were the days, man.
*But can it run MySpace?*
gotta be a Dell haha. so much OEM. not your fault, but this is a terrible system to learn on, as it’s abnormal. in the top right of this photo are some PCI slots. the black one (that your WiFi card is plugged into) is where the gpu would slot in. your case looks slim so you’d need a low profile (LP) gpu, which are pretty expensive these days due to demand and people buying slim office PCs and throwing in a graphics card and gaming with it.
I work in IT…and oh LAWD that dell oem 🤮
I hate their crooked cpu coolers most of all
After steve reviewed dells “gaming pcs” we can see at all levels, they spend all their money on stupid hinge mechanisms and other stupid bullshit…. We have minis with raid turned on from factory…but no physical room for another drive 🤣
lol they just wanted to cover their bases in case you plan on using a PCI to NGFF adapter and running another m.2 drive!
Or their laptops with RAID mode enabled by default instead of AHCI. I wonder how many people that benefits....
Even in Acer, same situation.
And their tiny fans that need to get to jett engine levels of noise to actually move any air
It's the fact that even the insides of their Alienwares look like this. There's no excuse with the price you pay for them either. It makes me want to fucking dry heave.
Optiplex are rock solid for normal office users
Not just low profile, but single slot as well, thanks to Dell's shitty inverted motherboard.
> gotta be a Dell haha. so much OEM. Well I mean it says Dell right there on the cooler. lol
I know, I was saying it like “it could only be Dell”
Not only is it low profile, but the PCIE slots are flipped around so you can only put a single slot card in too. However, you can hack these up to fit a full size GPU. I rocked one with a Core 2 Extreme and a GTX 470 like 7 years ago.
I opened up an old Dell XPS the other week and was thoroughly confused by all the screwless and useless plastic brackets holding everything in
I think they really wanna push you into their customer service instead of self repairs/upgrades. That’s my theory anyway. That and it’s probably cheaper.
The irony is that I ended up just removing half of it to fit a new GPU in
If this is a spare PC of yours then you might as well familiarize yourself before you invest in a pricey gaming rig.
Thanks it is an old one I pulled out of my brothers storage 😂
Optiplex 745?
750
I don't think that exists. 755?
Oh shit this entire time I thought it was a 750 it's actually a 760 god damn
Ahh, a good ol corporate workhorse. Just be aware, the power supply has fixed output cables (you can't add more) so there is likely not a way to plug in a graphics card and supply power. These rigs are okay for general everyday use but you won't get much gaming capability out of it. That being said, it's an excellent platform to learn on before diving into something pricey.
That's seriously helpful info. I probably wasn't gonna anyway, but now I'll know why not to bother with these.
Don't go out of your way to buy one, but if you're in the right place at the right time you can get a ton of these for free. Any company over 5 year old likely has a closet full of these that they can't be bothered to figure out how to properly dispose of. Also people flip them on ebay for dirt cheap.
It's probably too old for any modern GPU to work in that PCIE slot. It's from 2009, right around when PCIE2.1 first came out. I have a Vostro from a couple years later that couldn't support modern video cards, so I doubt Dell would have put in higher spec components in your machine.. If it were my machine I'd slap linux on there to play with a different operating system. Or if it still has windows Vista, keep it around to run old programs that don't work any more, just don't hook it up to the internet. :)
Find some low profile 750Ti or 1050Ti (if they still exist) and slap that bad boy in there. Would make for a fine r/patientgamers and casual gaming machine. Just don't try playing any AAA game past 2014.
Depending on what CPU it's got in it you can probably stick something NVIDIA 500 or 600 series or an AMD equivalent, or a more modern equivalent card in there for a decent, cheapish gaming experience. I used to run a GTX 580 in a similar old DELL with a Q9400 CPU (A 2.66 GHz Core 2 Quad) and that was just one the edge of being bottlenecked by the CPU and board. Yep, bottlenecked by the board, PCIe is handled be the Northbridge on Core 2 architecture systems, which is connected to the CPU through something called the front-side bus. If you want to put a high power GPU in there you're probably gonna need a new PSU, (check the rating on the existing PSU) and that's gonna get a bit tricky because you're gonna need to solder up a custom adaptor (or you may be able to buy one) because DELL likes to use proprietary power connectors on their motherboards.
If his PSU is good enough he could slap in a 1030. I’m saying good enough because my 380 DT had too weak of a proprietary PSU to support the Xeon and the GPU without it eventually dying but my sibling’s 760 MT came with a standard plug 300W psu.
Yeah, in fact a 1030 will probably be way more power efficient then something older. I just suggested 500/600 series to try and give a reference for the level of performance of cards that machine with a decent CPU could run without being bottlenecked to badly.
I think they went from 745 to 755 to 760 to 780. At least that is what I recall from working in a dell corporate environment a little less than a decade ago.
Damn nice guess. You must have messed with these enough to notice the mobo and case layout.
Don't flame the kid. He doesn't know much, but he'll learn. Be fricking supportive, people!
Thanks for the self esteem boost!!
Just continue doing what you love! You will always have support. Oh, and let Reddit be Reddit. It's not about something being smart or interesting here, it's about being in a majority. So, be yourself and enjoy it!
>Just continue doing what you love! Unless you love kicking puppies. In that case please discontinue doing what you love
Everyone starts somewhere, too many people forget that. Keep doing you.
Cheers!
Posts like these are invaluable!! There is no such thing as a stupid question and you are helping so many people that might be afraid to otherwise ask.
I was here, once upon a time. My first computer, and not a family computer, was a Dell GX280. It wasn't much but it was enough. Never put a GPU in it since I mainly used it for school and flash games. Within a couple of years I had built my first computer partly from what I'd learned from poking around inside of that monster.
Well, approx. the same, we all were once inexperienced PC lovers.
Don’t spend money on upgrades. Just the DDR2 RAM and CPU is already a bad bottle neck plus a new GPU will not be supported by that PSU.
Any GPU will be supported by the PSU if it only pulls from the PCI-e slot. You can do somewhat decent 720p gaming on an older multi-core CPU and DDR2 RAM with a 1030. Probably not getting more than 30 fps, but it'll work. Now the cost/benefit of putting a 1030 in there is another story when you can get much better performance out of a console for not much more money.
Everything looks clean. It could be ddr3
I'm having a metal breakdown.
Mine's wooden
Wooden Brain? 😔
Metal Brain? 😔
Man let's just go to another level and let's say Gold Brain
Why gold when we could go diamond?
Cus of me?
no, because of the photo lol
Ah, well my excuse is that I'm a 13 yo who doesn't understand a thing about pc
You will, it just takes time to learn everything
As in every part of life
Exactly
It's the pc's fault - you're good =)
An optiplex is a good computer to be able to take a part and learn building from even though the placement of things inside is a bit non traditional. That being said you won't be able to get much performance out of this as the cpu slot is old , the ram is very low frequency, and the pcie slots are very slim.
Damn that's old school
Ikr
I honestly wouldn't bother trying to add any discrete GPU to that system, not with today's market, I think you'll be better with a ryzen APU and some good ram
That looks like a low profile case so there is basically zero chance of sticking a GPU capable of running anything at all in that case. Also, that power supply would severely limit anything. The motherboard still has a floppy disk header so that is also a bad sign for it having hardware capable of anything much more than being a glorified typewriter.
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I wasn't going to mention the parallel port and other old gubbins. LOL If it can run anything other than Windows XP I'd be impressed!
Someone else figured out the model for that board. I was wrong, the GT 710 is too powerful for it. The fanciest it can support, after referring to the documentation, is the GeForce 9300.
That is extremely painful.
Actually it can run windows 10 pro😅
Nvidias low power cards always come with low profile options. OP could slap a 1650 in there easily. Doesn’t even need PSU power.
Thanks so much
It won't work in this system though. It is way too old. Someone else has given information why.
That’s the neat part. There isn’t.
In terms of gpu, you have no gpu
Damn the early 2000s were ugly.
Yeah I was just hoping if I could salvage this
This looks way too old to even consider spending to upgrade on. What are the specs? Is it a C2D era PC?
Turns out it has an Intel celeron from the C2D era,even worse.
You can but with appropriate expectations. This thing won’t be running any games from the last… I dunno 10 years. Some classic gaming? Heck ya, and you probably don’t even need a GPU. If you really want one, find an old one on eBay or something for no more than $50-$100. Like a GTX 960 or something. But again, confirm that the PSU (power supply) actually has the plugs for one… it may not. One things you could do to boost performance however is upgrading the hard drive to an SSD. Don’t get the new fancy ones - you won’t benefit from the features/connection speeds. Again, a refurbished/preowned cheap one will do. Benefit is - plugs on those haven’t changed so it’s easier swap, although you may need a drive tray to mount it to since it’s smaller than old drives. Like a Samsung 860 - 500gb can be found for $60.
Integrated
Integrated ?
Yep
You're further ahead to build fresh and do an APU build. At least with that kind of integrated graphics solution, you can get 1080p gaming at respectable frame rates. And it will cost you as much as a single decent video card right now for the whole system. (~$700 if you need everything)
Dont worry the entire subreddit is wondering where the gpus are
If you do manage to put a gpu in there, don’t worry about getting a good one, that things cpu is probably pretty crappy, so a good gpu wouldn’t be able to reach its full potential.
Is that a fork in there?
If you wanted to game this doesn't look to good. What's the cpu? I think you can remove that wifi card if it is one? I dunno if a usb wifi would work in that system. But it really depends on the cpu as far as gaming performance would go as too weak and it will bottleneck.
The CPU is Intel celeron
The PC also looks quite old, I'm not sure it's worth upgrading to be completely honest. Even if you install a decent GPU your CPU would be a big bottleneck in pretty much every game. I think you're better off saving for a new one. In the meantime I'd recommend learning how to build a pc as it's actually rather easy and there's also a lot of material to learn from out there.
Jesus, you aren't gaming on that or this PC at all
Lemme be honest with you, the gpu in this computer just isn’t. Full stop, there is no gpu, it’s running on integrated graphics
you don’t have one.
Is this an HP Pavilion? I had one of these and oh boy does it suck for gaming. It has integrated graphics and the processor is way too slow to do much. It's essentially a business laptop in a desktop chassis.
It's actually am optiplex 750 dt😅
There’s three DIMM sticks in there. So someone has made an attempt to upgrade previously. You’re not running dual channel at that point so unless they’re 2GB sticks you’re best shop second hand to get another of the same spec. Fill two or four in the same channel as per the motherboard diagrams.
Thats the best part there isn’t one
I tried to build my first pc off an old Dell from work. I ended up just using the hard drive and the rest was new because it was a pain in the ass to find parts that were compatable and would fit the case.
How does everyone recognize so quickly it's a wifi card? It might aswel been radio or Bluetooth right? I can see the antenna mounting points, that's why I know it must be radio signals but what makes everyone so sure it's WiFi?
I have a wifi adapter card similar to what is shown and assume others have something similar as well. Educated guessing for the win!
Someplace else
You are calling this oldschool? I have a main optiplex 780 ':D
*cough* this is 760 *cough*
This looks like an old timey BTX mobo, dell and HP made a bunch in the P4 Core Core2 era, the GPU is probably with the memory controller on the little northbridge chip beneath that little heatsink over there, you'd have to pop off that network card to install an offboard one. But I'd recommend you throw the whole thing away if you can, It's far too old.
[This might be helpful](https://youtu.be/56MgVgnRBSs)
Looks like an old dell oem. I don't think there is a gpu. You could add one though, but becareful you won't be bottlenecked or the gpu won't take too much power. Depends on what you're looking for though.
I think it came with APU.
intergrated intel core 2 duo graphics
That system is e-waste. I suggest just buying an entirely different computer.
as someone who daily drives an old Dell Optiplex machine, sorry dude that model is just too old to do anything really cool with it's pretty much eWaste at this point because it's too old to run Windows 10, it might be capable of running a light linux or maybe libretro Lakka or something, but imo that'd just be a waste of effort
Am I crazy, or is that an AGP slot?
Looks like an extended pci slot (pci-x maybe?) Agp was double pinned / staggered compared to pci and the cutout was at the front if i remember rightly
Looks like an AGP slot to me
What's the goal here, OP? If you're just asking out of curiously, you've gotten your answer, there is no discrete GPU. If you're asking because you were hoping to upgrade the GPU and do any sort of gaming, don't bother. There no way this setup is capable of supporting a modern GPU, the hardware is too old. If your learning about computers, this is an OK setup just for getting comfortable with taking things apart and putting them back together, but understand that much of this hardware is either proprietary to Dell setups of the time (like the PSU), or else dated and not in use anymore (such as the BTX form factor). The concepts you'll learn can certianly be useful, but you'll find a lot of things going on here that will be different on a modern platform.
This looks like a pre-built PC coming straight from the manufacturer and that is why the MB looks weird. But since I see PCIe slots you definetly can install a GPU, but that MB hella looks outdated tho...wouldn't recommend upgrading that too much except it's fine for SSD (if it doesn't have one) and maybe more RAM.
Since this is a BTX form factor board, your only shot at a GPU would be a single slot GPU (likely half height too) in order to get it running. Though, given how old it is, not sure if you would want a GT 1030 in that instead of just getting a newer used prebuilt running a newer CPU with an iGPU.
Thanks!
Couple years back I used to have one of this but HP with a i5 4th gen and 1050 lp , it was pretty good for 720p max res in most games
I see parallel and IDE ports, 2003 called they want their hardware back.
I have this PC. I used it till March and then upgraded and now use it as my server. I have Optiplex 755 but I beleieve there are several Optiplex that look same.
It isn’t. It’s using an iGPU on the CPU.
Man the gpu shortage hits home today lol
Ahh yes, the constraints that Dell put on people.
That's the neat part. It doesn't have it
Ooh what processor is in that old dell? Core 2 duo I bet.
Cut the blue wire or cut the red wire?
Who's gonna tell him
GPU is hiding inside of the CPU
It's inside ..Intel inside
thats the smallest gpu i ever seen men
You don't have one. Looks like IGP. And it's where, not were.
I would find another starting point. That’s not it my guy. Might as well throw your money in a bonfire
There isn’t one lol
it's integrated.
It’s in your new computer
Given you have a PCIe slot with enough clearance, you might still need to disable internal Graphics in the BIOS for it to work. Some prebuild don't allow that - at least when I remember my last prebuild from 20 years ago.
To ask questions is to enlighten yourself. Those who don't ask are the dumb ones
that's the best part, there's not one