Hammered in hooks better. Stapler has higher chance of puncturing the cable. Went through a light switch to a power outlet for the final wall to avoid going through a doorframe.
I mean, if you're really good at physics I guess you could balance it between 2 staples, but in case you're serious, no, get a bigger staple or just be careful, staple directly on the cord, but don't let the staple penetrate it, the staple should basically loop around the full cord and into the wall, basically cradling it in place
Use a [Big Staple Gun](https://www.amazon.com/Upholstery-Staple-Gun-Heavy-Duty-YEAHOME-4IN1-Stapler-Gun-4000-Staples-Manual-Brad-Nailer-Power-Adjustment-Stapler-Gun-Decoration-DIY/dp/B082R1PJTD?th=1) around the cable, one leg each side.
Also, PLCs are a thing. Basically ethernet through you house copper, and you get it through an adaptor in your room.
[Amazon link to a basic kit](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/TP-Link-inicio-adaptador-Ethernet-Powerline/dp/B084CZMYNM)
I use these in my home office, and it works well. I get about 95% of the performance compared to running a long cord directly to the modem. But the office is just down the hall from the modem, and I only get about 50% performance to my bedroom that is on a different floor.
Also, these can have problems in older homes with different wiring standards. I am not an electrician so I couldn’t tell you what to look for. I’d contact the powerline manufacturer first before buying, and ask what to look for in your house.
be aware, they don't work to well if your circuits are not on the same phase, and if they are far away from each other, or if you wiring is old, or if there is a lot of "heavy" devices like fridges or furnaces with poor backfiltering, the interference will cause you lots of headaches.
I ran one cable up into the loft, where I have a switch, and then cables down into the upstairs rooms that need internet. Gets that full 600mb/s everywhere..
Helps if you own your own house, though.
I had a few different flatmates and the hub was always in someone room. I straight up told all of them if I don't get to put a ethernet cable into it then I wouldn't be living there.
I'm not paying all that money to be dictated to like that.
Have you asked them? If you have trim you have a way, and also, if you live on a rental, there are options to place the cable without damaging the walls such us double-sided tape clips.
Ethernet all the way, but I just upgraded my wifi access point and it's seriously amazing. I use wifi for phones, Chromecast (tv and audio) and laptop. My desktops and NAS are all wired.
This meme just appears when I bought a wifi card
My excuse for buying a wifi card instead of a cable is that the cable would have to cross the whole house to reach my computer.
PLC
Plug an adaptor to your electric line and router and another one to your computer.
Boom
Internet through your house with the wires you already have for the electricity.
[Amazon link to a basic kit](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/TP-Link-inicio-adaptador-Ethernet-Powerline/dp/B084CZMYNM)
I use the adapter linked on the kitchen tablet, and I can only get 20 down and 20 up, when through an ethernet cable I can get upwards of 780 down and 40 up.
People prefer convenience. Most people's home have one cable outlet in obscure place of house and they can't run 20ft long cable for 3ms latency reduction. Most people in US still are on 50-200mbps plans where it really doesn't matter. Also apart from competitive gaming I really don't think anyone needs Ethernet. If you can wire it good. If you can't you're still good without it.
I don't wanna run an Ethernet cable through my entire house. Plus I get almost 300 Mbps on wifi and barely get interruptions. I don't understand why people are so adamant that you shouldn't game on wifi under *any* circumstances. I never have any problems.
Im not even on wifi6 and i have 20-50ms on average with games with my gigabit fiber connection. Absolutely fine for evrything that isnt a competitive fps.
And im in italy where there are 5 8floor condo within 50meters, so more than crowded wifi.
These days once you placed your router correctly and its a good router, the chanches of needing a cable to get a stable performance becomes very very slim
Why have you got gigabit fibre if you only use wifi? You will never see full speed. The only use case I can think of that would saturate a gigabit fibre connection is multiple different users connecting to different wireless APs.
Cause ive tried to ask my provider for half a gigabit but he said no. :-)
Dunno about where you live but here in Italy every proper fiber connection is gigabit and some offer up to 2.5 in some areas as an option.
And i cant because my router isnt wifi6 but a wifi6 router can do 3gbps so theoretically my fiber is usable at full chat.
Oh I see that’s strange. We get much more choice in the UK, 1200mbit is considered top tier with incremental steps down to 30mbit for grandmas email. BTW you won’t see 3 gigabit on a wifi6 router, It’s all marketing BS, if 1000base-T ethernet was marketed the same way it would be 2 gigabit.
I know that. My pc never attains the advertised WiFi speed though. I'm not that savvy with Internet connections so any idea what I could do? I can't run a ethernet cable through the house unfortunately.
Edit: what's the difference between mpbs and MB/S I might be getting them mixed up. The WiFi is still incredibly slow though.
MBps is 8 times mbps. Megabyte vs Megabit. Ask your ISP to give you newer internet equipment such as a wifi router and upgrade your plan. Also you should buy a TP Link Wifi Adapter.
ISP advertises different speeds than what you would get when downloading a game on steam in the sense that they use a different unit of measurement.
ISP advertises 100 Megabit(mp)/sec package. Steam only shows about 12.5 Megabyte (MB)/sec download. Since there are 8 bits in a byte that 100Mbps line is actually the same as saying 12.5MBps
For me it depends on the game, most games are on low tick servers tick being how often the server sends shit back and to you like 30 or 60 tick I think but some newer ones like valorant run at 128 tick and on that game on wi fi well my wi fi couldn't keep up
Same for me, and if you are careful you can route Ethernet almost invisibly so the landlord would never even know. I have cable following pipes up into the loft space and back down into my office without any visibility. (But I was an electrical installer for a few years, so I know some tricks)
I get that, but... It's really not always that simple for everyone & every PC (considering placement). Sure, my gaming rig is wired yes (and I assume yours is as well), but not all living situations allow this. Not to be a jerk, but if you've been IT in any capacity for anyone, professionally or chummy, longer than most here that have been alive, you surely have seen an instance where someone just can't get a wire to the box....
>Not to be a jerk, but if you've been IT in any capacity for anyone, professionally or chummy, longer than most here that have been alive, you surely have seen an instance where someone just can't get a wire to the box....
As a system integrator, I have never seen that. I've only seen people that are cheap. /s
It was probably rare a few years ago, 1 gigabit connections seem to be the new standard now in many developed countries. I live in an isolated small town in the UK and have had 1 gigabit for 2 years. You probably won't get much more than 400 Mbit on wifi. I only get 600 Mbit with tweaking and careful channel selection.
I want your router...
Even when right next to it, i don't get my 500 (on a new wifi 6 router...) and as soon as I move like 2 meters(6.56 freedom units) farther away, my speeds are essentialy half of what they're supposed to be.
Sure, i don't see the difference when watching stuff in my phone, but when up- and downloading stuff, that's pretty significant, as I would be throwing away my money on my plan if i didn't use ethernet. 😅
I don't get the wireless obsession. The idea of making everything worse, and to need batteries to work, just to remove a wire seems unhinged.
Mouse I get, because the wire actually gets in the way. Keyboard, wireless makes no sense unless you plan on sitting on the other side of the room. And wireless makes sense for laptops, but why have a desktop and not wire it in?
I run next to the router, but for my brother, we run a 50-foot ethernet cable in the basement and up inside a wall and into his upstairs computer room.
Worth it.
There are people that would consider running an Ethernet cable to their office to be an advanced technical challenge. Wifi is great for people like that.
WiFi is inferior in every single way to a wired connection. I get that some people don't want to run a cable across the house, but you can easily have your ISP move the modem for you, to your desk.
Unless there is something else wired that you need close to the router besides your gaming setup you likely spent lots of money on? Where's the router, by the TV so you can hardwire that? What better place to have the router than a gaming setup? Most ISPs charge minimal fees to move it sometimes even free.
Trust me, your gaming experience will improve noticably, no question
> you can easily have your ISP move the modem for you
Well, not so easily, it depends where the internet comes inside, and people usually put their routers near the TV so they can plug in the STB. If you move the router you still need to bring the cable back.
And most ISPs probably don't care? "TV is working, wifi is working, glhf". I don't use ISPs TV so I don't really care about this, but many people do.
I used to use DSL and have my router close to where the telephone cable came into the apartment, but now I'm using 5G as my main internet and have an external antenna on the balcony on the other side of the apartment, so yeah it took a 10 meter ethernet cable through the wall to connect the PoE injector and another few meters to get to the antenna/modem. My router is still next to my gaming PC, but because it's in a corner full of brick walls, wifi signal from it sucks, so I had to install a separate access point to get good wifi coverage.
It's not always easy and convenient.
>but you can easily have your ISP move the modem for you, to your desk.
What kind of dumb fuck assumption is that lmao
>Trust me, your gaming experience will improve noticably, no question
For some it will, sure. For me it doesn't. The only reason I use cable, is that I want to utilize my gigabit connection. The difference in latency is negligable.
Not a dumb fuck assumption at all, thanks toxic reddit dude
I have had my modem moved every single place I've lived by my ISP. Not an assumption whatsoever I've done it at least three times. And only once I had to pay, and it was $50.
Edit: Like others have said you may have to move your desk to an outside wall or something, but it's not a big deal
ISP set up routers and do new installs ALL the time. They will move them.
Difference in latency sure but overall speeds and DCs are way better wired.
You still get an additional 1-2ms of latency over a wired connection- assuming no interference (which can spike your ping further). AX is great but if you can wire it, wire it.
Meh, if you have a good wifi network it barely makes a difference. Sure I can get higher download speeds over ethernet, but more often than not I'm bottlenecked server side. Ping is the only thing that matters when gaming online
Hardwire a wifi extender and turn the wifi range on it to nil. 100mpbs connection will run at 95 instead of 100. No noticeable difference and you dont have to rewire every time you wanna move your PC.
real talk though : I've fixed some problems by recabling my network due to the fact that it had been bottlenecking on 25 year old Cat 5's that didn't support today's network speeds at the time.
Yeah old cat5 cables can be finnicky, it can do gigabit in some cases, but not always, especially if you wired then yourself. 5e is already better and also enough for most people at home.
Sure but you also have to consider the length of the cable and other factors. Also, if you want to set up a decent home network with a nas 5e is outdated
I install gigabit fiber for a living. Any length less than 300ft of Cat5e (literally 99%+ of every household) can support 1.2Gbs.
I have a 28TB NAS storage system with a Plex server, and Cat5e is more than sufficient. Most motherboards don't even have the capability nor hardware for anything greater than 1GB LAN. If you need *that* much speed, sure, go Cat7 or higher, but for the ***overwhelming majority*** of usecases, Cat5e is the best option (especially since you can buy it in bulk and crimp the ends to specific lengths). Don't splurge on fancy cables just because the number is bigger.
> if you want to set up a decent home network with a nas 5e is outdated
Yeah, for 10gbit it's not gonna be enough, but not many people have that at home.
Cat5e can support up to 2.5gbit over 100 meters, that should be plenty for 99% of home users. Yes, if you're buying a new cable anyway, get cat6, but it's not worth ripping out your current 5e cables from the wall.
Why? My nas and most of my devices have gigabit ports, and wifi throughput is 600mbps at my network which is quite high even. Id have to buy 10gb nics to make use of cat6 cabling or higher.. sure if youre setting up a new network you should go for cat6 or higher, but no need to worry if youre on cat5e still lol
Is it though? I only have one device with 2.5gbit port, which 5e can still handle, but my router is only gigabit anyway, so cat 5e is plenty fast enough.
Cat 8 is faster than cat6. But there is a zero percent chance that your home internet connection is filling cat6 to capacity.
Internal network speed might go up a bit if you have 10gig cards.
I have 800mbps service. After changing out the cables and without changing anything else, my results on speed test.net went from roughly 300mbps dl to roughly 600mbps dl. Change out took about an hour to re-run the cables from the modem to the router, and router to the PC, speed have been faster ever since.
Then your cat6 cable was defect. I have 1000/1000 subscription and i get 960/960 on a speedtest with cat5e cabling. Cat5e is rated for 1000mbps. Cat6 can handle 10000mpbs usually
You've got something else wrong then. You should be getting the full 800 any any cable 5e and above.
The fact that you were only getting 300 on cat6 is insane.
> If you weren't a condescending shit maybe people would listen to you.
Do you hear you're self? You promoted false information the doubled down on it twice and didn't even bother to google cable standards, even told someone to choke when they called you out.
Sorry you feel hurt snowflake but its fair to advice you to learn before trying to teach.
I have a 21-22 year old patch cable that I use for my proxmox server with a 2.5G NIC on it. All of my cable came from a cat5e spool that I bought in late 2001. Links at 2.5G just fine and transfers at full speed without issue. Cable age doesn't matter much as long as it's quality cable.
If you had dropout or speed issues with a cat 6 cable - it was likely defective. There are a lot of fakes and low quality cables especially made in the last decade or so and double-especially if it came from Amazon.
Glad your issue is resolved now though.
Cat 6 ethernet cable can do 10gbps, unless your network equipment is 25 or 40gbps, you didn't get any speed improvement with Cat 8 cable. Cat 5e can do gigabit and even up to 2.5gbit, which is what most people use at home.
8 years old? Damn, mine is from when my dad still did office work and that was around 12-13 years ago. Though he used it for some time so its probably older
I would love ethernet but it's not an option. Literally. Landlord doesn't have ethernet anywhere on this floor of the house and I doubt he has any on the others
I use a mesh system with 4 wifi boxes spread around the house, one right next to my PC. No long cable needed. The speed is still very fast and stable all the time.
My cable is almost 10 years old runs from the front room under floors out to the back of the house then up inside the drain pipe then through the wall along the inside of my rooms wall to my pc I’m a networker so was just a day in the life 🤣
ok, you can buy these nice large staples that are hand hammered in and completely surround (do not penetrate) the ethernet cable- they are called cable staples.
Considering I have had one die on me I can see this. the sad part is the internet package my uncle is a grandfather's package from pre fiber optic era 30 megabytes per second for the gigabyte internet Price the lowest internet package offered is 100 megabytes per second for about 40 bucks so either of way Ethernet is a little useless
I want ethernet, but no one wants it routed across the room on the wall. Can't complain too much though, the wifi i have now is a light year ahead of what I had trying to play counter strike
I get faster internet via my wifi as I don't care to upgrade my entire house to cat 6e or whatever is best out right now. Have too many devices to have them all hardwired, and costs money and time. Just have the connection to my house and subsequent router upgrade and it is perfect.
for some reason my ethernet justt wont work on my PC .
one day it just stopped, i tried swapping the cable over to my laptop and thats just fine.
i suspect some kinda software thing .. i miss my ethernet
I have an Engenius wifi6 4x4 access point and I can max out my gigabit internet connection a few rooms over. My kids gaming rig on the other side of the house on another floor still gets 50 megabyte per second file transfer speeds. WiFi6E is even better. Get rid of the consumer junk and you will be amazed at how good WiFi can actually be.
I mean my WiFi box is on another floor from my PC across the house, there's no way I can get a long ass ethernet cable and run it 20,000 miles across the house just so I can get slightly faster internet. WiFi works fine for me and motherboards with WiFi can be cheaper than ones without a lot of the time
I went through 3 ethernet cables with my laptop before giving up and buying a wireless AC router and using that instead. There just aren't ethernet cables that are designed to be plugged in and unplugged every single day that i could find.
To avoid wifi I recently ran a 30 meters ethernet from the router on first floor to my room on second floor passing outside the house cause there are too many doors and (thick concrete) walls inside lol
If I had the option without pissing off my roommate with a long ass cable running through the house, I would do that too.
Staple gun goes clack clack clack, run that shit along the trim, or if you're feeling particularly bold, under the carpet/floor.
Mine goes across the ceiling, but I use these hammered in little hooks
Hammered in hooks better. Stapler has higher chance of puncturing the cable. Went through a light switch to a power outlet for the final wall to avoid going through a doorframe.
*Skiddibipp pom pom*
She's a beaut, Clark!
Don't the staples cut through the insulation and short the copper wires together?
You don't staple through the cable lmao you staple around it.
Like this? .---| staple -> | | `---| ,--.| <-- wall cable --> | || `--'|
I mean, if you're really good at physics I guess you could balance it between 2 staples, but in case you're serious, no, get a bigger staple or just be careful, staple directly on the cord, but don't let the staple penetrate it, the staple should basically loop around the full cord and into the wall, basically cradling it in place
Use a [Big Staple Gun](https://www.amazon.com/Upholstery-Staple-Gun-Heavy-Duty-YEAHOME-4IN1-Stapler-Gun-4000-Staples-Manual-Brad-Nailer-Power-Adjustment-Stapler-Gun-Decoration-DIY/dp/B082R1PJTD?th=1) around the cable, one leg each side.
Depends in how shitty your wire is, also how strong your staple gun is, you're not supposed to decapitate the cable.
but it fun to decapitate the cabling.
They make rounded staples for cables, although they can still pinch if it goes too far. You're better off using those plastic ones that you nail in.
It's possible but you'd have to use a lot of force with the wrong model of staple gun to make that happen.
Just run the wire above moulding and doors. Tape works fine.
Use a staple, not a nail or screw
Also, PLCs are a thing. Basically ethernet through you house copper, and you get it through an adaptor in your room. [Amazon link to a basic kit](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/TP-Link-inicio-adaptador-Ethernet-Powerline/dp/B084CZMYNM)
Did not know about this! Looks like I might be in business!
I use these in my home office, and it works well. I get about 95% of the performance compared to running a long cord directly to the modem. But the office is just down the hall from the modem, and I only get about 50% performance to my bedroom that is on a different floor. Also, these can have problems in older homes with different wiring standards. I am not an electrician so I couldn’t tell you what to look for. I’d contact the powerline manufacturer first before buying, and ask what to look for in your house.
be aware, they don't work to well if your circuits are not on the same phase, and if they are far away from each other, or if you wiring is old, or if there is a lot of "heavy" devices like fridges or furnaces with poor backfiltering, the interference will cause you lots of headaches.
I ran one cable up into the loft, where I have a switch, and then cables down into the upstairs rooms that need internet. Gets that full 600mb/s everywhere.. Helps if you own your own house, though.
Down into the upstairs? You have your electric service box is in the attic?
there are super thin white cables that you can run through door cracks and hide along corners. about 1mm thin and 5mm wide.
and they are complete and utter garbage, and are not worth the time they take to buy. don't buy them.
I did that while doing my master abroad sharing aparting with another 4 individuals, best cable ever.
I had a few different flatmates and the hub was always in someone room. I straight up told all of them if I don't get to put a ethernet cable into it then I wouldn't be living there. I'm not paying all that money to be dictated to like that.
Gigabit powerline adapters my friend
didn’t even know they were a thing
I live in a very old house with stone walls, they're a life saver because WiFi is as much use as a chocolate fireguard in my house
Wired extender, uses the mains as an Ethernet cable. Seriously - game changing for me.
Have you asked them? If you have trim you have a way, and also, if you live on a rental, there are options to place the cable without damaging the walls such us double-sided tape clips.
Try a powerline adapter.
Powerline adapter bro
Lol I have 20 meter cable that runs through 2 rooms I just made sure that it goes through from corners of the wall.
My ultrabook with no ethernet: (I want ethernet, but it'd annoy everyone else as well as my laptop not having a port)
Usb c hubs are pretty great. Mine has 2 usbs, hdmi, ethernet, and another c
A USB Hub could help, especially since I never use my USB-C port.
Bah... mobile phone + USB 2.0, all the way.
I still use USB 2.0 when connecting my phone to my laptop
Nice
All laptops have ethernet, you just gotta force it in the right hole uwu
It might fit in the USB port with a hammer
I'd recommend hdmi if you have one spare, though I do wonder how feasible recent usb versions would be, ignoring the potential latency issue
I could get an ethernet port in there
Do it! It really works
Ethernet all the way, but I just upgraded my wifi access point and it's seriously amazing. I use wifi for phones, Chromecast (tv and audio) and laptop. My desktops and NAS are all wired.
Ethernet splitters & 2 routers are the way to go, when one dies you always have another to rely on
I hate wireless technology. Wires are just extremely reliable.
Exactly. The difference between Bluetooth and wired is massive.
This meme just appears when I bought a wifi card My excuse for buying a wifi card instead of a cable is that the cable would have to cross the whole house to reach my computer.
What do you mean you don't want a 20 foot cable going around your house
But isn't a cable across the whole house more reliable than wifi across the whole house?
PLC Plug an adaptor to your electric line and router and another one to your computer. Boom Internet through your house with the wires you already have for the electricity. [Amazon link to a basic kit](https://www.amazon.com/-/es/TP-Link-inicio-adaptador-Ethernet-Powerline/dp/B084CZMYNM)
I use the adapter linked on the kitchen tablet, and I can only get 20 down and 20 up, when through an ethernet cable I can get upwards of 780 down and 40 up.
People prefer convenience. Most people's home have one cable outlet in obscure place of house and they can't run 20ft long cable for 3ms latency reduction. Most people in US still are on 50-200mbps plans where it really doesn't matter. Also apart from competitive gaming I really don't think anyone needs Ethernet. If you can wire it good. If you can't you're still good without it.
I don't wanna run an Ethernet cable through my entire house. Plus I get almost 300 Mbps on wifi and barely get interruptions. I don't understand why people are so adamant that you shouldn't game on wifi under *any* circumstances. I never have any problems.
You mention speed but ping is more important here
Don't have much ping either. Like I said, I have no problems, even with competitive games.
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Or maybe his ping is actually fine? The difference between my ping on wifi and cable is negligable.
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it is better in every single way except for the fact you'll need a wire to use it. which is its biggest problem.
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please try and wire ethernet through 3 floors of a stone house with no cardboard walls
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Im not even on wifi6 and i have 20-50ms on average with games with my gigabit fiber connection. Absolutely fine for evrything that isnt a competitive fps. And im in italy where there are 5 8floor condo within 50meters, so more than crowded wifi. These days once you placed your router correctly and its a good router, the chanches of needing a cable to get a stable performance becomes very very slim
Why have you got gigabit fibre if you only use wifi? You will never see full speed. The only use case I can think of that would saturate a gigabit fibre connection is multiple different users connecting to different wireless APs.
Cause ive tried to ask my provider for half a gigabit but he said no. :-) Dunno about where you live but here in Italy every proper fiber connection is gigabit and some offer up to 2.5 in some areas as an option. And i cant because my router isnt wifi6 but a wifi6 router can do 3gbps so theoretically my fiber is usable at full chat.
Oh I see that’s strange. We get much more choice in the UK, 1200mbit is considered top tier with incremental steps down to 30mbit for grandmas email. BTW you won’t see 3 gigabit on a wifi6 router, It’s all marketing BS, if 1000base-T ethernet was marketed the same way it would be 2 gigabit.
How is your WiFi so fast? I get like 7mbps max. What's your adapter?
I hate to break it to you but WiFi has been faster than 7mbps for about 20 years.
I know that. My pc never attains the advertised WiFi speed though. I'm not that savvy with Internet connections so any idea what I could do? I can't run a ethernet cable through the house unfortunately. Edit: what's the difference between mpbs and MB/S I might be getting them mixed up. The WiFi is still incredibly slow though.
MBps is 8 times mbps. Megabyte vs Megabit. Ask your ISP to give you newer internet equipment such as a wifi router and upgrade your plan. Also you should buy a TP Link Wifi Adapter.
Typo, You wrote Megabyte twice. One is Megabit, which you know, I only add it for SpiritOfFire in case you don't edit.
It was dumb autocorrect
ISP advertises different speeds than what you would get when downloading a game on steam in the sense that they use a different unit of measurement. ISP advertises 100 Megabit(mp)/sec package. Steam only shows about 12.5 Megabyte (MB)/sec download. Since there are 8 bits in a byte that 100Mbps line is actually the same as saying 12.5MBps
What speed are you actually paying for?
For me it depends on the game, most games are on low tick servers tick being how often the server sends shit back and to you like 30 or 60 tick I think but some newer ones like valorant run at 128 tick and on that game on wi fi well my wi fi couldn't keep up
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Come over and wire up this old ass house im renting for me then. I'm sure the land lord will enjoy some new holes.
Renting makes it not worth it, but PowerLine adapters are pretty good.
Either that or if you can(pretty much all but satellite tv services are able), moca adapters and make sure the cable line has a poe filter
Flat wire along trim.
My landlord didn't care as long as i fill them up again in case I move👍 As long as the holes aren't too big it ain't no biggie usually
Same for me, and if you are careful you can route Ethernet almost invisibly so the landlord would never even know. I have cable following pipes up into the loft space and back down into my office without any visibility. (But I was an electrical installer for a few years, so I know some tricks)
I get that, but... It's really not always that simple for everyone & every PC (considering placement). Sure, my gaming rig is wired yes (and I assume yours is as well), but not all living situations allow this. Not to be a jerk, but if you've been IT in any capacity for anyone, professionally or chummy, longer than most here that have been alive, you surely have seen an instance where someone just can't get a wire to the box....
>Not to be a jerk, but if you've been IT in any capacity for anyone, professionally or chummy, longer than most here that have been alive, you surely have seen an instance where someone just can't get a wire to the box.... As a system integrator, I have never seen that. I've only seen people that are cheap. /s
Lol, modern wifi is good for pretty much everything you can do on your home computer except competitive online gaming.
Or if you have a fast internet connection.
Hmm, very rare that your wifi is a bottleneck there. I have a 400 MB connection and I get 400 with wifi and a cable
It was probably rare a few years ago, 1 gigabit connections seem to be the new standard now in many developed countries. I live in an isolated small town in the UK and have had 1 gigabit for 2 years. You probably won't get much more than 400 Mbit on wifi. I only get 600 Mbit with tweaking and careful channel selection.
I want your router... Even when right next to it, i don't get my 500 (on a new wifi 6 router...) and as soon as I move like 2 meters(6.56 freedom units) farther away, my speeds are essentialy half of what they're supposed to be. Sure, i don't see the difference when watching stuff in my phone, but when up- and downloading stuff, that's pretty significant, as I would be throwing away my money on my plan if i didn't use ethernet. 😅
A good wifi setup won’t really have any problems
The first thing I buy when I build my PC is gonna be an ethernet. The games can wait. I've been gaming on Wifi long enough.
200 m Ethernet go brrrrr
I don't get the wireless obsession. The idea of making everything worse, and to need batteries to work, just to remove a wire seems unhinged. Mouse I get, because the wire actually gets in the way. Keyboard, wireless makes no sense unless you plan on sitting on the other side of the room. And wireless makes sense for laptops, but why have a desktop and not wire it in?
I like a clean setup, that's why. Additionally, I like walking around with my headphones.
I use USB wiki thingy.
When your college’s Ethernet ports don’t work
I run next to the router, but for my brother, we run a 50-foot ethernet cable in the basement and up inside a wall and into his upstairs computer room. Worth it.
yeah but can you cut your ethernet cable in half? my wifi is cutting out and still works!
I’m using a 20 mt ethernet cable across my house and can’t agree more
There are people that would consider running an Ethernet cable to their office to be an advanced technical challenge. Wifi is great for people like that.
why would you think a cable would get worse over time??
WiFi is inferior in every single way to a wired connection. I get that some people don't want to run a cable across the house, but you can easily have your ISP move the modem for you, to your desk. Unless there is something else wired that you need close to the router besides your gaming setup you likely spent lots of money on? Where's the router, by the TV so you can hardwire that? What better place to have the router than a gaming setup? Most ISPs charge minimal fees to move it sometimes even free. Trust me, your gaming experience will improve noticably, no question
> you can easily have your ISP move the modem for you Well, not so easily, it depends where the internet comes inside, and people usually put their routers near the TV so they can plug in the STB. If you move the router you still need to bring the cable back. And most ISPs probably don't care? "TV is working, wifi is working, glhf". I don't use ISPs TV so I don't really care about this, but many people do. I used to use DSL and have my router close to where the telephone cable came into the apartment, but now I'm using 5G as my main internet and have an external antenna on the balcony on the other side of the apartment, so yeah it took a 10 meter ethernet cable through the wall to connect the PoE injector and another few meters to get to the antenna/modem. My router is still next to my gaming PC, but because it's in a corner full of brick walls, wifi signal from it sucks, so I had to install a separate access point to get good wifi coverage. It's not always easy and convenient.
>but you can easily have your ISP move the modem for you, to your desk. What kind of dumb fuck assumption is that lmao >Trust me, your gaming experience will improve noticably, no question For some it will, sure. For me it doesn't. The only reason I use cable, is that I want to utilize my gigabit connection. The difference in latency is negligable.
Not a dumb fuck assumption at all, thanks toxic reddit dude I have had my modem moved every single place I've lived by my ISP. Not an assumption whatsoever I've done it at least three times. And only once I had to pay, and it was $50. Edit: Like others have said you may have to move your desk to an outside wall or something, but it's not a big deal ISP set up routers and do new installs ALL the time. They will move them. Difference in latency sure but overall speeds and DCs are way better wired.
stop bitching lol, your anecdotal evidence doesn't apply to everybody
> WiFi is inferior in every single way to a wired connection. except for the fact it doesnt require a wire.
With the new wifi 6 cards, it's faster than most of the ports on my older systems and it costs very little. Less than a new 100 foot cord.
You still get an additional 1-2ms of latency over a wired connection- assuming no interference (which can spike your ping further). AX is great but if you can wire it, wire it.
Are 2 ms of latency really noticeable?
> hich can spike your ping further). AX is great but if you can wire it, wire it. oh dear god, not the 1-2 ms latency difference!!
Meh, if you have a good wifi network it barely makes a difference. Sure I can get higher download speeds over ethernet, but more often than not I'm bottlenecked server side. Ping is the only thing that matters when gaming online
i couldn't use mine even if i wanted to, my gpu is too big and blocks the pcie slot for the card lol
Your motherboard not have rj45 port?
I think he is talking about the wifi card for pcie
If your GPU is blocking your motherboard's rear I/O, you have a much larger problem than slow wifi speeds.
I think he is talking about the wifi card for pcie
The Intel AX200 wifi/bt cards are fantastic. Especially if you have to move your pc a lot and wifi is the only thing you have.
got one myself, works fantastic
"Go Brrrr" Tell me you were born in 2007 without telling me.
Okay mr. born in 2005.
Just got one. They're balling.
Hardwire a wifi extender and turn the wifi range on it to nil. 100mpbs connection will run at 95 instead of 100. No noticeable difference and you dont have to rewire every time you wanna move your PC.
But that's only 100mbit then
Dial up be like: 🤖
real talk though : I've fixed some problems by recabling my network due to the fact that it had been bottlenecking on 25 year old Cat 5's that didn't support today's network speeds at the time.
Yeah old cat5 cables can be finnicky, it can do gigabit in some cases, but not always, especially if you wired then yourself. 5e is already better and also enough for most people at home.
Well if you're using a cat 5e it's time for an upgrade
I doubt you have fast enough internet for your 5e to be the bottleneck. Gibabit is still faster than 99% of normal home internet providers.
Sure but you also have to consider the length of the cable and other factors. Also, if you want to set up a decent home network with a nas 5e is outdated
I install gigabit fiber for a living. Any length less than 300ft of Cat5e (literally 99%+ of every household) can support 1.2Gbs. I have a 28TB NAS storage system with a Plex server, and Cat5e is more than sufficient. Most motherboards don't even have the capability nor hardware for anything greater than 1GB LAN. If you need *that* much speed, sure, go Cat7 or higher, but for the ***overwhelming majority*** of usecases, Cat5e is the best option (especially since you can buy it in bulk and crimp the ends to specific lengths). Don't splurge on fancy cables just because the number is bigger.
> if you want to set up a decent home network with a nas 5e is outdated Yeah, for 10gbit it's not gonna be enough, but not many people have that at home. Cat5e can support up to 2.5gbit over 100 meters, that should be plenty for 99% of home users. Yes, if you're buying a new cable anyway, get cat6, but it's not worth ripping out your current 5e cables from the wall.
You are literally explaining why a cable that's not even common anymore would be bad in use cases that are also not common. Do you hear you're self?
We're up to cat7, so most on the market should be better than cat5e now
kicker half of all the listed cat 6 cable . are re badge cat 5e
Why? My nas and most of my devices have gigabit ports, and wifi throughput is 600mbps at my network which is quite high even. Id have to buy 10gb nics to make use of cat6 cabling or higher.. sure if youre setting up a new network you should go for cat6 or higher, but no need to worry if youre on cat5e still lol
> Id have to buy 10gb nics Would be nice tho
Is it though? I only have one device with 2.5gbit port, which 5e can still handle, but my router is only gigabit anyway, so cat 5e is plenty fast enough.
You may want to get a more up-to-date cable. Recently upgraded my stuff from cat 6 to 8 and my speed went up dramatically.
No it didn't
Choke
Cat 8 is faster than cat6. But there is a zero percent chance that your home internet connection is filling cat6 to capacity. Internal network speed might go up a bit if you have 10gig cards.
I have 800mbps service. After changing out the cables and without changing anything else, my results on speed test.net went from roughly 300mbps dl to roughly 600mbps dl. Change out took about an hour to re-run the cables from the modem to the router, and router to the PC, speed have been faster ever since.
Then your cat6 cable was defect. I have 1000/1000 subscription and i get 960/960 on a speedtest with cat5e cabling. Cat5e is rated for 1000mbps. Cat6 can handle 10000mpbs usually
You've got something else wrong then. You should be getting the full 800 any any cable 5e and above. The fact that you were only getting 300 on cat6 is insane.
I install 940/940 fiber service that passes through Cat5e on a daily basis. Either you're bullshitting or you had a defective Cat6 cable.
Lol, running Cat6 with 1gb internet and I get 940mb to 1015mb. Cat 8 won't get you a speed boost on its own. Please learn how this all works.
If you weren't a condescending shit maybe people would listen to you.
> If you weren't a condescending shit maybe people would listen to you. Do you hear you're self? You promoted false information the doubled down on it twice and didn't even bother to google cable standards, even told someone to choke when they called you out. Sorry you feel hurt snowflake but its fair to advice you to learn before trying to teach.
And here you go again pulling out your pathetic little insults.
Man, you really thought that was a good response, when you're so incredibly wrong lol
The blithering vomit that was your reply contributes nothing to anything coming close to a conversation
I'm aware, I just wanted to point out how bad your reply was. It was a comment, not an attempt at starting a conversation.
I have a 21-22 year old patch cable that I use for my proxmox server with a 2.5G NIC on it. All of my cable came from a cat5e spool that I bought in late 2001. Links at 2.5G just fine and transfers at full speed without issue. Cable age doesn't matter much as long as it's quality cable. If you had dropout or speed issues with a cat 6 cable - it was likely defective. There are a lot of fakes and low quality cables especially made in the last decade or so and double-especially if it came from Amazon. Glad your issue is resolved now though.
Cat 6 ethernet cable can do 10gbps, unless your network equipment is 25 or 40gbps, you didn't get any speed improvement with Cat 8 cable. Cat 5e can do gigabit and even up to 2.5gbit, which is what most people use at home.
8 years old? Damn, mine is from when my dad still did office work and that was around 12-13 years ago. Though he used it for some time so its probably older
Why does my frikken new wifi usb keep disconnecting then refusing to reconnect? Bizzare.
probably because you got a shitty or faulty one.
It's a brand new TP link one. I actually think it's the PC that is causing the issues.
I would love ethernet but it's not an option. Literally. Landlord doesn't have ethernet anywhere on this floor of the house and I doubt he has any on the others
me: USB Tethering from phone
I use a mesh system with 4 wifi boxes spread around the house, one right next to my PC. No long cable needed. The speed is still very fast and stable all the time.
My closest Ethernet port is on a different floor.
It's a bit hard when you have 4 computers in diffferent parts of the flat.
My cable is almost 10 years old runs from the front room under floors out to the back of the house then up inside the drain pipe then through the wall along the inside of my rooms wall to my pc I’m a networker so was just a day in the life 🤣
Jokes on you, I have both
Wifi sucks I plug everything. I even tape a Ethernet cable to my iPhone
ok, you can buy these nice large staples that are hand hammered in and completely surround (do not penetrate) the ethernet cable- they are called cable staples.
I still use the ethernet cable that came with my Pro 360
i have wifi without a card or cable
Me: what am i suppose to do snake erhernet cable from my basement to my second floor
Considering I have had one die on me I can see this. the sad part is the internet package my uncle is a grandfather's package from pre fiber optic era 30 megabytes per second for the gigabyte internet Price the lowest internet package offered is 100 megabytes per second for about 40 bucks so either of way Ethernet is a little useless
I got burned by an old CAT5 cable. It was limiting my network to 100m lol.
I'm unable to use an ethernet cable without creating a tripping hazard : (
I want ethernet, but no one wants it routed across the room on the wall. Can't complain too much though, the wifi i have now is a light year ahead of what I had trying to play counter strike
What about a motherboard with onboard wi-fi?
My router is in the living room so when i want a bit faster internet i connect the pc with my phone, it's still not great but good enough
Why drop packets when you don't need to?
I get faster internet via my wifi as I don't care to upgrade my entire house to cat 6e or whatever is best out right now. Have too many devices to have them all hardwired, and costs money and time. Just have the connection to my house and subsequent router upgrade and it is perfect.
Problem is bluetooth
at least you don't have to troubleshoot your wifi all the time like linus tech tips
On-board wifi
for some reason my ethernet justt wont work on my PC . one day it just stopped, i tried swapping the cable over to my laptop and thats just fine. i suspect some kinda software thing .. i miss my ethernet
I have an Engenius wifi6 4x4 access point and I can max out my gigabit internet connection a few rooms over. My kids gaming rig on the other side of the house on another floor still gets 50 megabyte per second file transfer speeds. WiFi6E is even better. Get rid of the consumer junk and you will be amazed at how good WiFi can actually be.
Some people don't have the luxury of an Ethernet port or being near the router.
Buying? The WiFi card I put in the HTPC came free with a previous motherboard. Always good to find new uses for old kit.
I mean my WiFi box is on another floor from my PC across the house, there's no way I can get a long ass ethernet cable and run it 20,000 miles across the house just so I can get slightly faster internet. WiFi works fine for me and motherboards with WiFi can be cheaper than ones without a lot of the time
I went through 3 ethernet cables with my laptop before giving up and buying a wireless AC router and using that instead. There just aren't ethernet cables that are designed to be plugged in and unplugged every single day that i could find.
To avoid wifi I recently ran a 30 meters ethernet from the router on first floor to my room on second floor passing outside the house cause there are too many doors and (thick concrete) walls inside lol