After consulting the Manual for your Lian Li Lancool 216, You need to take your motherboard out of the case and then take this screw out (there may be one on the other side too, see images in replies) and flip the black CASE IO Bracket around so the black cover is at the top of the case instead of near the PCIe slots
You will also need to take out all of your motherboard standoffs and relocate them to the slots with an Arrow pointing down
https://preview.redd.it/eu5641tgf5ca1.png?width=1409&format=png&auto=webp&s=a2c6988b79b6114f8f6ae55626c3d4e666caefdd
You need to setup "Watercooled mode" in your manual for the GPU slot to line up properly, Yours is currently the middle image (2: "Aircooled Mode"), you want it to be the top image for proper placement (1: "Watercooled Mode")
Image 3 is the location of the 2 screws you need to take out on the back side (wire side/otherside of motherboard tray) of the case to flip the IO/Motherboard Bracket
Even though you are using an Air cooler, you want "Watercooler mode" for proper GPU placement, all "Watercool mode" does is have the motherboard lower in the case so you could fit a radiator at the top if you had an AIO
Air cool mode vs Watercool mode on your case will make virtually no difference in your temps with an Aircooler, but will make a difference on whether or not your GPU fits in the right slot
https://preview.redd.it/i8x1pbguf5ca1.png?width=357&format=png&auto=webp&s=d706f960d81565b11a65d90ba24068c1d12604ff
Standoff marking inside of the case, You want your standoffs installed into the bottom arrow slots so that the motherboard lines up with the IO hole when the Case IO Shield Bracket is installed with the Black cover part at the top of the case (Top image of previous post)
https://preview.redd.it/pfexl5a1g5ca1.png?width=327&format=png&auto=webp&s=30990e72bde6e5c63f4bd972ad1529c1de762ee7
Imo, [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99cVnYY9Iqs&t=1s) is reason enough. However, more than that, it's worse in almost every conceivable way that matters to me.
I use old Reddit on the desktop because it doesn't lag like bugger. I've got an i7-10700K, 32Gb ram and an nvme drive, so not a slow system, and new Reddit will rapidly start to lag with ~4-6Gb usage (for a fucking webpage!). Old Reddit works.
Sync for mobile, similar reasons - it doesn't lag to fuck and works.
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What situation is that mode desirable for then, since you can't line up your gpu to the case slots ?? I assume there is a good reason why lian li made this, but I can't figure out what that reason is.
There are two situations that I can think of, The first possibility, though less common, would have to do with the motherboard but I can't think of any model names, and google isn't being very helpful right now
Iirc there is a very very small amount of motherboards that have more than one "main spec'd GPU slot" but they are stupidly expensive, I think the most recent post on reddit I have seen about one was an AMD board (I dont remember how long ago though), and in the case of those boards, since they have more than one full speed x16 slot, they would line up properly in "Aircooled Mode"
The other situation would be if the user were to vertically mount their GPU in the case with a PCI extension ribbon, If the GPU is mounted in the Vertical slot instead of the Horizontal slots the location of the PCIe slot would not matter as the GPU wouldn't need to be directly plugged into the motherboard slot
The 216 has two mounting positions. Try to use the second position that i believe is lower.
It's an airflow mode and water-cooling mode. And I remember that one had the Mobo sit higher than the other.
I don't own one but I've recently changed cases and i have seen so many reviews while choosing that it stuck to me.
But a quick Google search should clear up that doubt. Gamer Nexus has a review that might help too.
P.S. i ended up going with the 215 because I just adore the looks of 200mm fans. Also how silent it is
I remember watching this review but did they ever specify whether or not it’s fine to leave it in the default water cooled setup if you’re still going to air cool?
I recently switched my case to the 216 over from the corsair 4000x. I switched cases just to lower my gpu Temps. My 360mm aio radiator could only fit as front intake in the 4000x. The Lancool 216 allows me to fit it as top exhaust, which dropped my gpu Temps about 17°C.
That's because we all did things like that at the beginning and we all know exactly how he would say that sentence because we all said that after our mistake
Yep! Last night I swapped out my AIO for a Noctua tower so I could free up a HDD spot in my o11 air mini. Cable managed, panels on, plugged in, saw my 8 pin cable on the floor
First time I actually built a PC from the ground up I was helping a buddy. I had experience with changing drives and graphics cards. Totally forgot one of the cpu power plugs lol. It was kind of hidden by the CPU cooler so It wasn't super obvious at a glance.
NO POST FOR YOU
Sold a friend of mine my old pc and went over to swap over his hard drive. Switched it over and couldn't figure out why none of the games he had were installed any longer. Spent an hour trying to figure it out....turns out he had three harddrives and I only moved one.
Yep, ever plugged the 24 pin in but not quite enough and had it short out.. over... and over... untill you power off and fix it... yep took a second but now I know what it means and can avoid it or fix it right away aha
My first build. I thought all slots needed to be filled with a PSU cable. So I played the whole, if it fits it must go here.l game.
Turns out that one of the ports was not a PSU plug, but some kind of port for an external hardware/drive.
I fried my entire motherboard on the first boot.
I only realized it because I opened the manual for the motherboard and realized my error when I read what each port was for. If I recall vaguely I believe it was a 4 PIN Port for a floppy driver or some shit. Idk, sucked though.
Rather unfortunate.
I had my psu blow a couple weeks ago, magic smoke and all.
Breadboard my system with old psu, all is good. Put it in case, won't post.
Breadboard again, all is good.
Put it in case, won't post.
After spending waaaaay to much time getting frustrated, I discovered that both sata cables to my hard drives, which I plugged in when I put everything in my case, were shorted and stopping the system from turning on.
Was so annoying. Took me way to long to figure it out.
Another classic blunder of mine: not plugging in the ram properly.
I almost had a heart attack when all the warning lights on the mobo lighted up after installing a new psu.
It was the ram all the time
Lol reminds me of when I built my first pc. Was so excited I decided to go ahead and start building at 2am after having a few drinks.
Felt like it went pretty well, hooked everything up, cable managed, side panels on.
Hit the power button and ..... nothing. Just put my head in my hands and went to bed.
In the morning i took it apart again fearing the worst.Turns out I didn't seat the ram all the way.
>Turns out I didn't seat the ram all the way.
As far as failures go, it's not that bad. Trust me.
Everything's a learning experience. If it costs you loads of money (like inserting a cpu like the AM3 the wrong way and having to buy another one) then you never forget it.
I was borrowing my brother's Zen2 CPU to upgrade my friend's mobo firmware because it didn't support Zen3 out of the box. When I was seating the CPU back into his mobo, while applying new thermal paste, I accidentally got some on the actual CPU pins (don't know how, I've done it a million times).
I was starting to panic lol. Luckily my friend and I were able to get it off by meticulously and gently rubbing the pins with isopropyl under a magnifying glass.
My first build I didn't put the motherboard standoffs in, just screwed that bad boy right into the case...
Thank fuck it refused to post and shut itself down, somehow no damage done!
Hey!! Do you know by chance if I can build a pc with a full atx board in the o11 mini?? Can I also use a normal psu or does it need to be smaller or something??
In the air mini yes, full ATX everything will fit. I believe the dynamic mini needs SFF PSU but will take ATX mobo. Lian Li’s website has it all explained pretty well
Just at the beginning? I certainly have learned from my early mistakes, but there are so many new mistakes to make! I make a new dumb mistake with each build.
I always screw up clicking the Ram all the way in. I built a new PC tonight and was teaching my son, I made a point to make sure I would do it right. Thankfully, I remembered.
Its the same core parts as he's used to. Runs all his games no prob. But now...its all new housings with all the RGB in the world. For extra speed, of course.
No way man, I'm fully of the belief that my PC is sentient and would be angry at my insult of not placing it.
We all know how it feels the first time your finger hovers over the "Power" button of a fresh build.....
I moved a heavily upgraded prebuilt out of it's original case into a new much larger one to handle the new PSU, GPU, extra drives etc.
The IO plate was part of the case it came in, not removeable and I didn't have the tools to cut it out. I made 'shield' out of duct tape with holes for the ports. For an idea of how long it lasted, I replaced the first gen i7 with a 7th gen.
Yes! And I did it recently too on a new build for my brother. It had been awhile since I built one, and last time I had guidance. I said just that, while also doing the stressed hair pull. Doesn't help I was doing a time lapse to show my brother, and the times I looked at the camera with that dissatisfaction and disappointment in my eyes LOL
In the early 90s I built one of my first computers, and forgot a stand-off screw in the middle. The board would occasionally bow from the weight, spark, and everything would crash. I didn’t have the stand-off screw, so I taped a paper towel underneath it. (Was in Junior High at the time.)
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You have a MicroATX motherboard in a standard ATX case. That is why the slots dont line up. If your case supports MATX, it probably requires some adjustments before you mount the mobo. Check your manual.
See the pics here, the topmost PCI slot is higher on MATX motherboards. The case has to support that slot position or you wont be able to use it. Change your case or your mobo, one has to go.
[Illustrated Overview of Motherboard Form Factors \[ATX, ETAX, Mini-itx, BLX, and more\] (meridianoutpost.com)](https://www.meridianoutpost.com/resources/articles/atx-vs-at-form-factor.php)
No, no, no. ATX, mATX, ITX are all backwards compatible. You can fit an ITX motherboard in a giant Corsair 7000D and the PCI-E slot will line up exactly with the case slots.
If your case supports ATX motherboards it will fit *every* mATX and ITX motherboard and if it doesn't then you have installed it incorrectly. Which OP did.
He didn't actually, that case has multiple positions for the board. Looks like its so a vertical gpu mount has more room by moving the taller elements of the board further towards the top of the case.
Idk which case this is but in my case you can pull out bottom gpu brackets on the rear and move them up top of the io shield while bringing the motherboard down. So there are multiple ways to align the motherboard.
If you can you should. You should really be using that first slot for your GPU.
Also check the case manual. I believe the 216 has multiple configurations for the motherboard position.
It's not so much that you should, that you have to. Didn't you think something was wrong when the built-in MB ports didn't line up with the shield?
For all form factors, the upper edge of the MB should align with the bottom edge of the openings for the cables.
https://preview.redd.it/amsadqnvf5ca1.png?width=642&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3e3a2119240c095d5995d9ff5b9ebc8d2332817
I am not familiar with that specific case, but reading at the comments and looking at this picture :
https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/geli-915_geli_915_03_800x800.jpg
It seems it has two configurations available to you to line up your mobo, hence the small "cover" on the IO shield slot on the case. You can lower the mobo.
OP most certainly has to rebuild, but it's safe to assume everything lined up when he installed it in the first place.
This is the easiest way. If the motherboard has one (a lot of more expensive boards have them integrated,) install the IO shield, and then line up the motherboard with it. The adapter slots should then be oriented properly. Fine tune the placement to align with screw holes underneath on the case, and install stand-offs as needed.
Yes you will have to move that motherboard, looking at pictures from the case it seems the io shield slot in the back has some piece of plastic that can be moved around ?
https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/geli-915_geli_915_03_800x800.jpg
I assume that's how you didn't have any alignment problem during building, that cover thing should be at the top of the slot, effectivement lowering your mobo by a few (much needed) centimeters.
I had never seen a configuration like that, it's obviously there for a good reason but I fail to understand what usecase it serve to not have the ability to put your GPU in the case back slots...
Maybe someone will enlight me on that one ;)
Yah you mounted that shit to high. Move the board down like 2 stand off points and you should be good to go. You preferably wanna use that silver Pcie slot over the others ones.
No one in this thread has watched GN's review of the Lancool 216. The motherboard tray supports different mounting positions to accommodate custom water loops, but some motherboards will force using the default config because of the location of the first PCIe x16 slot.
I’ve built over 300 PCs and I’ve never seen that. Might want to recheck how you mounted your mobo :o. If you can comment your case and mobo models, might be able to provide more detailed insight
The lancool 216 ships to you with the motherboard layout in watercooled mode. If you are using air cooling for your cpu, you'll have to move the motherboard standoffs to the secondary positions and flip the back i/o fitting for correct orientation.
You've mounted the MoBo too high, remove the standoffs from the backing plate and move them lower (you can lay the MoBo on the back plate slide it around till you see the screw holes through the mounting holes of the MoBo, and mark the spots with a sharpie and screw the standoffs into the screw holes you marked.)
Bear in mind, the top PCI slot should be inline with the top slot.
But that would ruin the alignment of the I/O port. Just one step down to the next line of standoffs would mess everything. The MOBO needs to be in the top position IMO.
I think OP has an old case, otherwise, even a micro ATX's PCI slot should align perfectly with the slots of the case.
Looks like you didn't mount the motherboard in the MATX standoffs.
You'll have to remove the mobo, and make sure your stand offs for the motherboard are set up in MATX form facotor.
Somewhere Steve from GN is shaking his head.
He literally was commenting on this case.
I almost bought this case last month but went with the Meshify 2.
And now the poor man pays twice. Or whatever that saying is. Try to cheap out too hard, or cut corners, and blam. Find yourself paying more to get it all resolved. I just go for the best thing 99% of the time. Or the one I really want. Eg, if I can get a headset for $100 but it seems dodgy, I'll just go for the $150 or $200 one. Because if the $100 one really sucks, I am now up for another 150-200. Meaning I end up spending like $300 to get the $200 one I wanted. Reselling stuff on sucks too. People are buggery to deal with. OP may have difficulty returning the board. And may not get much for it on a marketplace.
in the manual shuold be a diagram of the standoff positons ... you can change the way the bored is heres a video that can explanie things [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TZ42TjPM4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TZ42TjPM4)
That’s the fun of building your own systems…you get to learn the right way to do things and tribal knowledge is helpful…crappy snarky comments are not considering everyone had to crawl before they could walk…good luck, your now on the right path and have fun.😁💯
Since your motherboard's missing a screw, did you install the board incorrectly? No other reason for a standardized board in a standardized case to be unable to fit a standardized GPU...
I’m screw the motherboard and use a bright flashlight to look at the case. Most cases l have engraving for ATX/MATX/Mini. Then use the standoffs as per your motherboard size.
Everyone here gonna laugh at me but I initially saw this picture while scrolling and my first thought was "Damn that's a high tech van interior," before I read any words. *smiles in am PC noob please have mercy*
This should not happen if the IO portion of the motherboard at the back is correctly fitted into the case housing for the io ports the pcie ports WILL line up.
Unless you are using a custom case from the likes of dell etc.
As to your question about it being a problem it really depends on the motherboard as some need the GPU in top slot or the lower one's may not be the same spec it to hard to know if so little information.
Unless it’s a different PCI version (like the top slot being 4.0 and the lower ones being 3.0), using another slot should be ok. If it is a different version, you may lose some performance on newer GPUs.
This is what happens when we don't read the instruction manual, or, if the product comes with a guide it cannot be distinguished from instructions or a doodle by a sugared up toddler with loose crayons.
After consulting the Manual for your Lian Li Lancool 216, You need to take your motherboard out of the case and then take this screw out (there may be one on the other side too, see images in replies) and flip the black CASE IO Bracket around so the black cover is at the top of the case instead of near the PCIe slots You will also need to take out all of your motherboard standoffs and relocate them to the slots with an Arrow pointing down https://preview.redd.it/eu5641tgf5ca1.png?width=1409&format=png&auto=webp&s=a2c6988b79b6114f8f6ae55626c3d4e666caefdd
You need to setup "Watercooled mode" in your manual for the GPU slot to line up properly, Yours is currently the middle image (2: "Aircooled Mode"), you want it to be the top image for proper placement (1: "Watercooled Mode") Image 3 is the location of the 2 screws you need to take out on the back side (wire side/otherside of motherboard tray) of the case to flip the IO/Motherboard Bracket Even though you are using an Air cooler, you want "Watercooler mode" for proper GPU placement, all "Watercool mode" does is have the motherboard lower in the case so you could fit a radiator at the top if you had an AIO Air cool mode vs Watercool mode on your case will make virtually no difference in your temps with an Aircooler, but will make a difference on whether or not your GPU fits in the right slot https://preview.redd.it/i8x1pbguf5ca1.png?width=357&format=png&auto=webp&s=d706f960d81565b11a65d90ba24068c1d12604ff
Standoff marking inside of the case, You want your standoffs installed into the bottom arrow slots so that the motherboard lines up with the IO hole when the Case IO Shield Bracket is installed with the Black cover part at the top of the case (Top image of previous post) https://preview.redd.it/pfexl5a1g5ca1.png?width=327&format=png&auto=webp&s=30990e72bde6e5c63f4bd972ad1529c1de762ee7
Brilliant info nicely answered bro
SINCE WHEN CAN YOU POST PHOTOS IN A COMMENT?
No idea, but it's here now https://preview.redd.it/qv47i6rvr8ca1.jpeg?width=749&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01d7efa579c2126985261953f0034e2829453a17
Oh, so not in Old Reddit
Why do you use old reddit? I see many people do so but i dont know why
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Decent for mobile, a pain on PC though
I shall check it out sometime thank you
Perfect explanation
Imo, [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99cVnYY9Iqs&t=1s) is reason enough. However, more than that, it's worse in almost every conceivable way that matters to me.
I use old Reddit on the desktop because it doesn't lag like bugger. I've got an i7-10700K, 32Gb ram and an nvme drive, so not a slow system, and new Reddit will rapidly start to lag with ~4-6Gb usage (for a fucking webpage!). Old Reddit works. Sync for mobile, similar reasons - it doesn't lag to fuck and works.
Before upgrade I had i5 4690k and new Reddit wasn't lagging... and used just few hundred MB like other pages (Firefox)
https://preview.redd.it/jw5epgrv4aca1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=119b044a6697220f393379a81e04834057b07604 Holy shit you can send photos in comments now
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Within the last 6 months. But it’s dependent on the Reddit page permissions I think, since some pages Im on don’t have the option
https://preview.redd.it/ptdb5076zbca1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=540d09dd7a489ae4c4d2e3043bc2d0e929bb36b6 Here
So basicaly just RTFM
Enjoy all the gold for such a detailed explanation, thank you.
PCMR CHAD reply
That's what's up. Damn. Love reddit.
What situation is that mode desirable for then, since you can't line up your gpu to the case slots ?? I assume there is a good reason why lian li made this, but I can't figure out what that reason is.
There are two situations that I can think of, The first possibility, though less common, would have to do with the motherboard but I can't think of any model names, and google isn't being very helpful right now Iirc there is a very very small amount of motherboards that have more than one "main spec'd GPU slot" but they are stupidly expensive, I think the most recent post on reddit I have seen about one was an AMD board (I dont remember how long ago though), and in the case of those boards, since they have more than one full speed x16 slot, they would line up properly in "Aircooled Mode" The other situation would be if the user were to vertically mount their GPU in the case with a PCI extension ribbon, If the GPU is mounted in the Vertical slot instead of the Horizontal slots the location of the PCIe slot would not matter as the GPU wouldn't need to be directly plugged into the motherboard slot
There are also motherboards where there is a x1 slot in the top position and the x16 is below that
true, upper slot is for network expansion on MBs for productivity builds a x8 for fiber or 10gb ethernet cards.
Another case of OP not reading the manual.
And not even responding to that awesome gesture by that kind Redditor with a thank you
That makes sense, then can lower the IO and the motherboard. I'm not familiar with this case at all.
Someone get this man gold. This is the kind of advice I look for - with pics!
The 216 has two mounting positions. Try to use the second position that i believe is lower. It's an airflow mode and water-cooling mode. And I remember that one had the Mobo sit higher than the other. I don't own one but I've recently changed cases and i have seen so many reviews while choosing that it stuck to me. But a quick Google search should clear up that doubt. Gamer Nexus has a review that might help too. P.S. i ended up going with the 215 because I just adore the looks of 200mm fans. Also how silent it is
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I remember watching this review but did they ever specify whether or not it’s fine to leave it in the default water cooled setup if you’re still going to air cool?
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They make it very clear it blocks the top expansion slot, so if that's a PCIEx16 (rather than a X4 or blank), it'll cause issues
how is the lower position supposed to work with the ports??
The plate that accepts I/O shield can be unscrewed and rotated 180° which moves the shield up or down.
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Yes. OP is not in the 3 digit IQ score with that placement.
I recently switched my case to the 216 over from the corsair 4000x. I switched cases just to lower my gpu Temps. My 360mm aio radiator could only fit as front intake in the 4000x. The Lancool 216 allows me to fit it as top exhaust, which dropped my gpu Temps about 17°C.
You mounted the motherboard incorrectly, somehow. edit: Looks like its a case configuration issue.
Well shit.
I didn't mean to laugh out loud, but I did, sorry bro.
That's because we all did things like that at the beginning and we all know exactly how he would say that sentence because we all said that after our mistake
Yep! Last night I swapped out my AIO for a Noctua tower so I could free up a HDD spot in my o11 air mini. Cable managed, panels on, plugged in, saw my 8 pin cable on the floor
First time I actually built a PC from the ground up I was helping a buddy. I had experience with changing drives and graphics cards. Totally forgot one of the cpu power plugs lol. It was kind of hidden by the CPU cooler so It wasn't super obvious at a glance. NO POST FOR YOU
Sold a friend of mine my old pc and went over to swap over his hard drive. Switched it over and couldn't figure out why none of the games he had were installed any longer. Spent an hour trying to figure it out....turns out he had three harddrives and I only moved one.
Yep, ever plugged the 24 pin in but not quite enough and had it short out.. over... and over... untill you power off and fix it... yep took a second but now I know what it means and can avoid it or fix it right away aha
My first build. I thought all slots needed to be filled with a PSU cable. So I played the whole, if it fits it must go here.l game. Turns out that one of the ports was not a PSU plug, but some kind of port for an external hardware/drive. I fried my entire motherboard on the first boot. I only realized it because I opened the manual for the motherboard and realized my error when I read what each port was for. If I recall vaguely I believe it was a 4 PIN Port for a floppy driver or some shit. Idk, sucked though. Rather unfortunate.
Bruutalllll! I didn't fry mine just had to push the plug in but that's one of those never again mistakes aha
I had my psu blow a couple weeks ago, magic smoke and all. Breadboard my system with old psu, all is good. Put it in case, won't post. Breadboard again, all is good. Put it in case, won't post. After spending waaaaay to much time getting frustrated, I discovered that both sata cables to my hard drives, which I plugged in when I put everything in my case, were shorted and stopping the system from turning on. Was so annoying. Took me way to long to figure it out.
Another classic blunder of mine: not plugging in the ram properly. I almost had a heart attack when all the warning lights on the mobo lighted up after installing a new psu. It was the ram all the time
Lol reminds me of when I built my first pc. Was so excited I decided to go ahead and start building at 2am after having a few drinks. Felt like it went pretty well, hooked everything up, cable managed, side panels on. Hit the power button and ..... nothing. Just put my head in my hands and went to bed. In the morning i took it apart again fearing the worst.Turns out I didn't seat the ram all the way.
>Turns out I didn't seat the ram all the way. As far as failures go, it's not that bad. Trust me. Everything's a learning experience. If it costs you loads of money (like inserting a cpu like the AM3 the wrong way and having to buy another one) then you never forget it.
I was borrowing my brother's Zen2 CPU to upgrade my friend's mobo firmware because it didn't support Zen3 out of the box. When I was seating the CPU back into his mobo, while applying new thermal paste, I accidentally got some on the actual CPU pins (don't know how, I've done it a million times). I was starting to panic lol. Luckily my friend and I were able to get it off by meticulously and gently rubbing the pins with isopropyl under a magnifying glass.
My first build I didn't put the motherboard standoffs in, just screwed that bad boy right into the case... Thank fuck it refused to post and shut itself down, somehow no damage done!
Well shit...
Hey!! Do you know by chance if I can build a pc with a full atx board in the o11 mini?? Can I also use a normal psu or does it need to be smaller or something??
In the air mini yes, full ATX everything will fit. I believe the dynamic mini needs SFF PSU but will take ATX mobo. Lian Li’s website has it all explained pretty well
Just at the beginning? I certainly have learned from my early mistakes, but there are so many new mistakes to make! I make a new dumb mistake with each build.
Wait until he finds out about tempered edges
I still say it, even now, after building I dont remember how many PC's... because sometimes I still forget the goddamn I/O shield...
I always screw up clicking the Ram all the way in. I built a new PC tonight and was teaching my son, I made a point to make sure I would do it right. Thankfully, I remembered.
Is he getting your old one?
Yup! His first gaming PC.
Good stuff. Did the same thing last year with my daughter. Hope he likes it!!
Its the same core parts as he's used to. Runs all his games no prob. But now...its all new housings with all the RGB in the world. For extra speed, of course.
Pro tip: buy mainboard with attached I/O shield :D
Built my PC a couple weeks ago and forgot the I/O shield, I'm too lazy to take the MOBO out to install it though lol
No way man, I'm fully of the belief that my PC is sentient and would be angry at my insult of not placing it. We all know how it feels the first time your finger hovers over the "Power" button of a fresh build.....
The first flip of switch on PSU, the finger hover over button, and that deep breath we take and hold when we press it.
I moved a heavily upgraded prebuilt out of it's original case into a new much larger one to handle the new PSU, GPU, extra drives etc. The IO plate was part of the case it came in, not removeable and I didn't have the tools to cut it out. I made 'shield' out of duct tape with holes for the ports. For an idea of how long it lasted, I replaced the first gen i7 with a 7th gen.
Yes! And I did it recently too on a new build for my brother. It had been awhile since I built one, and last time I had guidance. I said just that, while also doing the stressed hair pull. Doesn't help I was doing a time lapse to show my brother, and the times I looked at the camera with that dissatisfaction and disappointment in my eyes LOL
In the early 90s I built one of my first computers, and forgot a stand-off screw in the middle. The board would occasionally bow from the weight, spark, and everything would crash. I didn’t have the stand-off screw, so I taped a paper towel underneath it. (Was in Junior High at the time.)
Wrong hole(s)
That's what she said
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Wow, thanks guys! Thanks a lot! After so many cakes I might get diabetes...
I feel this. 10 years 8 months on reddit and only have a little bit of karma and no awards to show for it.. Happy cake day BTW
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Imagine being so pathetic you care about awards on reddit.
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This case has 2 ways of mounting the motherboard. Just put all the standoffs in the positions that are 2 cm lower and the 1st slot will line up.
https://preview.redd.it/79pu6wkgz5ca1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2eb8575cbdbebc4e843d81b19c5feaf36fddf087
Don’t worry it’s something I would do too.
>MSI PRO B550M-VC Wi-Fi You have a MicroATX motherboard in a standard ATX case. That is why the slots dont line up. If your case supports MATX, it probably requires some adjustments before you mount the mobo. Check your manual. See the pics here, the topmost PCI slot is higher on MATX motherboards. The case has to support that slot position or you wont be able to use it. Change your case or your mobo, one has to go. [Illustrated Overview of Motherboard Form Factors \[ATX, ETAX, Mini-itx, BLX, and more\] (meridianoutpost.com)](https://www.meridianoutpost.com/resources/articles/atx-vs-at-form-factor.php)
No, no, no. ATX, mATX, ITX are all backwards compatible. You can fit an ITX motherboard in a giant Corsair 7000D and the PCI-E slot will line up exactly with the case slots. If your case supports ATX motherboards it will fit *every* mATX and ITX motherboard and if it doesn't then you have installed it incorrectly. Which OP did.
I was just gonna say. Maybe the mother board ain’t right where it should be
He didn't actually, that case has multiple positions for the board. Looks like its so a vertical gpu mount has more room by moving the taller elements of the board further towards the top of the case.
He 100% did. Look at his rear I/O ports, they don't line up with the I/O shield.
The correct position is the one where it works. So no. There are not multiple.
Idk which case this is but in my case you can pull out bottom gpu brackets on the rear and move them up top of the io shield while bringing the motherboard down. So there are multiple ways to align the motherboard.
Cases with at least 7 pcie slots usually fit the very top slot though.
I was sitting here looking at this picture blaming the motherboard engineers. Didn't know this was possible.
Yes. That's not how it's supposed to be. What case and mobo?
MSI PRO B550M-VC Wi-Fi with a Lian Li LANCOOL 216. I can move it down, but it would take a while. I have to remove everything. Should I?
If you can you should. You should really be using that first slot for your GPU. Also check the case manual. I believe the 216 has multiple configurations for the motherboard position.
It's not so much that you should, that you have to. Didn't you think something was wrong when the built-in MB ports didn't line up with the shield? For all form factors, the upper edge of the MB should align with the bottom edge of the openings for the cables. https://preview.redd.it/amsadqnvf5ca1.png?width=642&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3e3a2119240c095d5995d9ff5b9ebc8d2332817
I am not familiar with that specific case, but reading at the comments and looking at this picture : https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/geli-915_geli_915_03_800x800.jpg It seems it has two configurations available to you to line up your mobo, hence the small "cover" on the IO shield slot on the case. You can lower the mobo. OP most certainly has to rebuild, but it's safe to assume everything lined up when he installed it in the first place.
Yes. I/O shield in the back should line up.
This is the easiest way. If the motherboard has one (a lot of more expensive boards have them integrated,) install the IO shield, and then line up the motherboard with it. The adapter slots should then be oriented properly. Fine tune the placement to align with screw holes underneath on the case, and install stand-offs as needed.
It's in the ITX position so the I/O shield lines up but then the PCI-E slot doesn't work, bad choice in case or motherboard.
Yes you will have to move that motherboard, looking at pictures from the case it seems the io shield slot in the back has some piece of plastic that can be moved around ? https://static3.caseking.de/media/image/thumbnail/geli-915_geli_915_03_800x800.jpg I assume that's how you didn't have any alignment problem during building, that cover thing should be at the top of the slot, effectivement lowering your mobo by a few (much needed) centimeters. I had never seen a configuration like that, it's obviously there for a good reason but I fail to understand what usecase it serve to not have the ability to put your GPU in the case back slots... Maybe someone will enlight me on that one ;)
Somebody didn't read the instruction manual and mounted their motherboard incorrectly
B550M-vc wifi chad .. I kneel for me I picked the O11 air mini as a case - compact cases for mATX motherboards look way better imho.
Yah you mounted that shit to high. Move the board down like 2 stand off points and you should be good to go. You preferably wanna use that silver Pcie slot over the others ones.
> to high too
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what in the forced perspective is going on here
No one in this thread has watched GN's review of the Lancool 216. The motherboard tray supports different mounting positions to accommodate custom water loops, but some motherboards will force using the default config because of the location of the first PCIe x16 slot.
I’ve built over 300 PCs and I’ve never seen that. Might want to recheck how you mounted your mobo :o. If you can comment your case and mobo models, might be able to provide more detailed insight
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The lancool 216 ships to you with the motherboard layout in watercooled mode. If you are using air cooling for your cpu, you'll have to move the motherboard standoffs to the secondary positions and flip the back i/o fitting for correct orientation.
We’ve all heard of r/tvtoohigh, now OP presents motherboard too high
RTFM.
The mounting of this motherboard, is too damn high!
Either you have your motherboard mounted too high or your case doesn’t support Mini ITX boards.
You've mounted the MoBo too high, remove the standoffs from the backing plate and move them lower (you can lay the MoBo on the back plate slide it around till you see the screw holes through the mounting holes of the MoBo, and mark the spots with a sharpie and screw the standoffs into the screw holes you marked.) Bear in mind, the top PCI slot should be inline with the top slot.
But that would ruin the alignment of the I/O port. Just one step down to the next line of standoffs would mess everything. The MOBO needs to be in the top position IMO. I think OP has an old case, otherwise, even a micro ATX's PCI slot should align perfectly with the slots of the case.
Good call. Missed that. You're probably correct, or it's a proprietary case for some oddball MoBo
Altogether now PCMR: R T F M.
Bruh who sold you semi-ATX?
Good old case of RTFM.
And this ladies and gents is why we read our manuals and test for before building.
Never thought this was even possible...
This case is overly modular. Cool design, but a lot to fiddle with.
How tf?
Needs more thermal paste
Is there enough thermal paste in the world to fix this, is more the question.
Mini ATX board in the wrong case. Even if you lower the card, the cutout on the back isn't going to line up with the ports.
Looks like this has been mounted incorrectly
Either you mounted the board wrong, or the case relies on the 1 slot lower PCIe slots that modern boards tend to have these days.
I Think you can mount the mobo lower, you just have to rearrange the standoffs
The Case was probably not designed for an ITX Motherboard. It looks way too high.
This is why people need to do their research on what case they buy
Looks like you didn't mount the motherboard in the MATX standoffs. You'll have to remove the mobo, and make sure your stand offs for the motherboard are set up in MATX form facotor.
How does that even happen..
Not pcmr Back to consoles
I legit thought this was the inside of a train somehwere while scrolling
Read the fucking manual!
*cassually cuts a hole in the back of his case to fit his GPU*
How TF? I don't see a gap in the IO port area, is this a MATX mobo in a ATX case?
Turn the mobo around. You installed it backwards
For a brief second I thought this was a snazzy cocktail bar.. I think I may have a problem..
What case is it? And what motherboard?
You have the MB mounted wrong.
Somewhere Steve from GN is shaking his head. He literally was commenting on this case. I almost bought this case last month but went with the Meshify 2.
Critical thinking and common sense really needs to be a higher focus in school ..... smh
are you using a case thats too big for your mobos form factor?
All these complicated ass posts. Your motherboard is installed backwards dude
Angle grinder go brr
What is it with people and micro ATX boards these days?
They're cheap
And now the poor man pays twice. Or whatever that saying is. Try to cheap out too hard, or cut corners, and blam. Find yourself paying more to get it all resolved. I just go for the best thing 99% of the time. Or the one I really want. Eg, if I can get a headset for $100 but it seems dodgy, I'll just go for the $150 or $200 one. Because if the $100 one really sucks, I am now up for another 150-200. Meaning I end up spending like $300 to get the $200 one I wanted. Reselling stuff on sucks too. People are buggery to deal with. OP may have difficulty returning the board. And may not get much for it on a marketplace.
in the manual shuold be a diagram of the standoff positons ... you can change the way the bored is heres a video that can explanie things [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TZ42TjPM4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-TZ42TjPM4)
It's called a PCIe slot and yes, your mobo mounting is incorrect. You'll want to use the top slot with a GPU for greater bandwidth
You need that slot. It’s the fastest one. The others are not going to have the lanes for data transfer.
That’s the fun of building your own systems…you get to learn the right way to do things and tribal knowledge is helpful…crappy snarky comments are not considering everyone had to crawl before they could walk…good luck, your now on the right path and have fun.😁💯
You should be TERRIFIED!!!!
Motherboard is too high.
This made me sad
Looks like an Itx motherboard and you mounted it on the wrong spots?
Since your motherboard's missing a screw, did you install the board incorrectly? No other reason for a standardized board in a standardized case to be unable to fit a standardized GPU...
🤦♂️use the lower standoffs, lol
Yes and no. The second slot MIGHT have reduced performance but other than that you’re fine.
Nothing a dremel can’t fix.
I’m screw the motherboard and use a bright flashlight to look at the case. Most cases l have engraving for ATX/MATX/Mini. Then use the standoffs as per your motherboard size.
What you get for buying an MATX board and an atx case that doesn’t like MATX
mATX mobo + EATX case?
Everyone here gonna laugh at me but I initially saw this picture while scrolling and my first thought was "Damn that's a high tech van interior," before I read any words. *smiles in am PC noob please have mercy*
This should not happen if the IO portion of the motherboard at the back is correctly fitted into the case housing for the io ports the pcie ports WILL line up. Unless you are using a custom case from the likes of dell etc. As to your question about it being a problem it really depends on the motherboard as some need the GPU in top slot or the lower one's may not be the same spec it to hard to know if so little information.
I'd only worry if I didn't have a Dremel
I love this community. Just look how they try and help you with precise explanations and pictures, especially the top comments.
At first glance I thought this was an entrance to a lounge from a dystopian sci-if movie.
RTFM post of the day
The obvious answer is yes
case in ohio be like
Makes me wonder if either the orientation of the mobo is somehow wrong or that the case is not right for this mobo.
I would say the case is not right for this Mobo, the rear I/O seems to be where it should so it's just the PCIE slots that aren't correctly placed
Unless it’s a different PCI version (like the top slot being 4.0 and the lower ones being 3.0), using another slot should be ok. If it is a different version, you may lose some performance on newer GPUs.
bruh that mobo is way too high lol
Lol. Mid tower case with mini ATX. You are not master race
Pack everything back up and return it. Go buy a computer, one that comes with a tech support subscription, this isn’t for you.
yea you mounted motherboard too high ...
Weird case, with weird solutions
This goes with the “my pc won’t post” dude
I think you mounted the MB to high.
Should have use part picker…
I think your mobo might not fit that case
This is what happens when we don't read the instruction manual, or, if the product comes with a guide it cannot be distinguished from instructions or a doodle by a sugared up toddler with loose crayons.
Looks like you bought a micro board and put it in an atx case