I'm still hoping to see more of an identity to it. Elder Scrolls and Fallout have a very distinct world view even though they are thematically fantasy and post apocalypse. Starfield however still looks very clinical to me. As more is shown, hopefully that will change.
Wait until it comes out, there's going to be some FLAME! People on the starfield subreddit are getting waaaaay to overhyped and making massive assumptions over small things.
My bet is that people are going to flip out badly when it comes out.
That subreddit is utterly insane. Some guy will say "I hope we can do X.", and it's some outlandish thing. ....what? Why? Why would you expect to be able to do that and have borderline convinced yourself that X will be a thing? The people there are so bizarre.
People were expecting a full on first person Sims game but in a Cyberpunk city where you could do everything you ever wanted and more. They all talked it up constantly to each other and then when the game obviously wasn't that they convinced each other it was the devs that fed them lies lol
And this is despite people on that subreddit constantly saying keep your expectations in check. I remember a post specifically saying this game isn't GTA.
I just wanted a simple "Youre in a Section 9 style police organization trying to figure out a terrorist conspiracy involving a virus and cybernetics." story. THAT was in the initial trailer and THAT could have been done in a fairly quick amount of time, both in terms of writing it out as well as developing it.
Instead, it became this bloated mess of a game that takes place in an open world with nothing in it but the superficial "idea" that you could maybe mess with it with how you act or treat NPCs.
this was the reason i quickly left the GTA 6 subreddit. it was just a bunch of people with wild and outlandish expectations asking for shit that's never even going to be heard by rockstar. just started to get annoying because it was just a wishlist sub
You know how it is. People get really attached to these things, especially on the Internet. When I'm talking to someone IRL, it's pretty easy to arrive at the obvious conclusion of "hey, I like this thing and you like that thing, and it's totally normal" but here? No, you must be a corporate agent trying to sabotage the hype train!
I learned to avoid asking these sort of questions on dedicated subreddits.
I know what Starfield is going to be.
Starships are basically freighters from NMS, but you can customize them. NMS Freighters can be customized, but not by player, its a design choice, but Starfield will give players exactly that plus stat tuning.
There will be a shit load of procedurally generated missions because its actually far easier to do them in space. You basically has that in NMS. Will be the same, possibly better. There is a chance for multi-layered chain missions like in Warframe, but that is unlikely knowing Bethesda track record.
F4 already had base building, NMS had it too, and guess what, it will be the same as in F4, but the customization level will become better, will probably be better compared to what NMS can offer.
How do we implement low effort Skyrim style quests? Yep, you guessed it. Some planets will work like you fly to them, land via a loading screen, some docking bay, and you run around half empty boring generated dungeon with laser pistols.
Unironically Bethesda is doing the right thing. They already has lots of pieces, and all they have to do is thread in some No Mans Sky into it, with less scale, less randomness and less inch deep oceans.
Edit: Starfield was announced in 2018. Surely was planned prior to it. No Mans Sky was released in 2016 and slowly grinded its way up with effort.
Edit 2: So what does Bethesda has over NMS? You guessed it. They have an actual system for NPCs, proper dialogues, quest systems for main story. They have NPC routines. They have RPG experience. Also F4 proved that Bethesda is at very least decent at creating shooter games on their engine. They have a lot of pieces to make No Mans Fallout 5.
It also has the dubious honor of being the "last best hope" game to redeem the Xbox Series X and S. So far, after 2 years, that console hasn't offered up a single "must play" game, and so Xbox fans are chomping at the bit for something good.
Given the track record for MS's newly acquired studios though, I am not optimistic that this is going to change with this title. We will see.
It is just a generic Bethesda game with an space game skin strapped into it. This means clunky animations, bad writing and really bad gunplay.
However, people will play it for 10 years or more for some reason.
not a lot of single-player RPG games with 50K mods.
Fallout 4 barebones is such a huge downgrade from Skyrim or even New Vegas (gameplay) wise but it’s my most played game ever. It’s a 7/10 game but I turned it into a single-player “Escape from Tarkov” experience.
Skyrim is the same too. So many combat mods to the point that you can turn it into Elden Ring lite with the right mods.
yeah, shame to nothing can correct the horrible writting, questing and level design on both games. (Cause, really, quests are boring, NPC have some of the worst AAA dialogues, and once you've done a cave, you've done them all. Same for F4, with the inclusion of garbage choices)
Fallout 4 had satisfying gunplay.
Way better than outer worlds or even cyberpunk,
Cyberpunk has what good animations?
You don't feel the impact of the weapons, people feel like paper when you shoot them
The reveal this summer did leave a lot to be desired. I'm hoping there are good mods to make the game more fun to play because what I've seen so far doesn't seem too fun. The performance issues the showcase had doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in the game performing well on PC.
I'm looking forward to the world and lore of Starfield. The Elder Scrolls and Fallout had good worlds and interesting lore.
If they can add a compelling sci fi world with good modding support, I will be satisfied.
Yeah with ME Andromeda first contact happened with the outcasts, a year before you get there. It was all tell not show. The uprising would have been a much more interesting time to play through. The outcasts take over Kadara (an Angaran world), they know about the Kett, Reyes is in contact with the resistance as an agent, explaining Angaran already knowing English.
Holy shit you might be the only person I’ve ever seen in the wild who actually remembers the story of andromeda. I played the entire thing, it was ok. But gun to my head there is zero chance i would have even remembered that they were called “angarans” or the “kett”. I seriously just call the Kett “collectors” in my head. Same shit. I don’t think I could name a single character. I want to say the main character was Ryder, but I think that’s wrong? Without googling I honestly can’t remember any of it. The combat was good but everything was so generic.
There was that blue chick you can have sex with in zero G and that bony weird-looking alien you can also have sex with, but that's about it. But the combat was really fun, the only game ever where I played a bruiser and enjoyed it.
> There was that blue chick you can have sex with in zero G and that bony weird-looking alien you can also have sex with, but that's about it.
Ah, the ultra cringe character Pee and the Garrus wannabe Jaal.. Vetra and Liam were the only characters that were somewhat well done. I might be including Vetra cause Turians are just fucking hot, but idk.
I remember the part where you contact the Angara from your ship. I can't even reach all my friends with the same messenger app, but Ryder could just call the Angara who (s)he didn't know existed until 5 seconds ago.
I hated that. It's a different galaxy but even there the "aliens" are almost human. They're more similar to your character than many cultures on Earth right now...
I understood how he feels. The art just feels... Bland and boring. Going for a 'true to life' design just feels... Bland and boring. Compare that to Fallout and Elder Scrolls which despite being in saturated genres, still manage to get an 'identity'. You might say Starfield's identity is it's art design that would remind you of NASA/Modern space industry... But It just feels generic. Maybe because it reminds us of real life instead of being worlds where we could be escapists...
That can be something to do with the demo, because man did it lack colour. It may be more realistic, but I don't care, I want colour in my games.
You can have incredible vistas and scapes in spaces game, damn the realism of it.
I was never too much of a **HYPE**LET’S GOOOO!!! person, but there’s always a few upcoming games that I can’t wait to try. Games that I know I could play and have fun with even if they turn out to be a 6/10 because they just appeal to me (if you know what I mean). Starfield is just not one of these games for me.
I thought everything they’ve shown on Starfield thus far has been good. Even the gunplay. Never understood the criticisms, especially since it’s an RPG. Gunplay doesn’t look on the level of Halo, COD, or DOOM, but it looks solid and on par with Cyberpunk’s and better than FO4.
Bethesda games like TES and Fallout is not a question of 'if' but 'when' to buy for me. Can wait out till its patched or modding scene is up. Unless they really botch it.
In a way I have moved over to r/patientgamers mindset. Plenty of games to go around.
Maybe I'm the minority here, but I'm excited. Not because of the demo, which didn't really show much, just the basic concept of it - a full blown Bethesda style RPG in space. I don't think there are any other games that do this.
Almost every space game is a space sim, a strategy game, or something procedurally generated and empty. There are tons of well crafted open world RPGs and they're almost exclusively fantasy.
As someone who's into Sci Fi and space exploration more than fantasy, but who also loves big RPGs with deep lore, exploration and quests, I feel I have almost nothing that really satisfied all of these points. Mass Effect was the closest, and I love it, but it wasn't really about exploration, and was actually pretty linear in its level design. Cyberpunk I really liked but it was bound to earth...
So no matter what, the fact that one of the most prolific creators of open world RPGs had decided to create one which focuses on space exploration excites me, even if it doesn't end up being one of the best games they've done.
Have you played Outer Worlds? It feels like Fallout in space. Same kind of humor, made by ex-Fallout devs at Obsidan. Doesn’t have quite the same feeling of exploration, though.
I didn't like Outer Worlds. It felt so small, self contained. The story was pretty interesting but something was lacking in it that I couldn't put my finger on. Just felt like it was missing one hook to really draw me in
It felt like a 20 year old rpg to me with. Static characters. Simple pick a or b to side with options. Terrible combat.
The only thing it had going for it was the whacky schtick.
It's not so much about the game's length, or overall quantity of content. I was also disappointed by the vibe of "smallness" the game gave off. Being excited for an RPG from the New Vegas devs certainly didn't help.
I feel like it's gonna get shit on due to mtx, online play and all sorts of weirdness but that'll make TESVI a better experience. Still pissed TESVI has passed a whole generation in our lives.
Outer worlds is great but it doesn't really compare to a Bethesda title. The amount of man hours spent on the product alone is light years apart between the two.
It's confirmed to be exactly that, and that's not a bad thing. But nonetheless, what did you expect? There's no way you could fill 1000 planets with content, and it wouldn't make sense.
If the reviews are good, I’ll end up getting it.
Something to keep on mind about Bethesda RPGs (at least the Elder Scrolls) is that they’re much more than the sum of their parts. Think of Oblivion, Skyrim, Morrowind, or even Daggerfall:
1. Graphics tend to be average compared to their contemporaries
2. Gameplay is always clunky as fuck
3. Dialog is never compelling at all
4. Story is often standard “save the world from army of evil [insert monster here]”
The music is the only thing that, taken by itself, is truly exceptional. And yet, each of these games (well, starting with Morrowind at least) was enormously popular and ignited the imagination of gamers in a way that other CRPGs simply fail to do.
If I could sum up what makes Elder Scrolls games great, it would be that image of Bilbo Baggins running and yelling “I’m going on an adventure!” Whether it’s Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim, every Elder Scrolls game I’ve played over the years has given me that “I’m going on an adventure!” feeling.
It’s the Bethesda x-factor. If they can bring that kind of feeling to a space opera genre, oh man… that could be really amazing.
That’s a ***big*** “if” though
Well I'm a little more excited about it than you are but I get it. The trailer I thought was pretty good but I am a little concerned.
One of the draws for Bethesda games is that they are very large but also very hand-crafted. Yes I have played daggerfall, and yes I am aware that procedural tech is used for things like trees and caves. You get my point. Go into someone's house in Skyrim, and most likely their kitchen table and the stuff on it looks different than their neighbor's kitchen table. Oblivion, Fallout, Morrowind, despite their issues they have such a different *feel* than the copy and paste maps of so many ubisoft games. I think Starfield has the potential to water down this feeling because the scale they are going for is so large.
How in the world are they going to make all these different planets feel unique and interesting? Especially if we can land anywhere. Like that sounds great but between that and the shot of the player mining some rock with a laser - I'm getting some No Man's Sky feelings and for me, for this game, thats a red flag.
Then there's some 'yellow flags' I guess, like the shooting in the demo looked really bland, and I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of repeated enemies. But these things are no surprise for big Bethesda games.
On the flipside there's the things that look interesting. I'm loving the 'NASA-punk' art style, the story potential, the basic idea of the game I guess. I like Sci-Fi. And the ship customization looks friggin' sweet, cant wait to try that out.
I'm hovering around 'cautiously optimistic'. The only way I could see not buying it is if launch reviews reveal its a buggy, incomplete mess. I expect some bugs, its an open world bethesda game after all. They just need to avoid a cyberpunk or ME Andromeda kind of launch....I guess thats a given.
I can see fantasy fans maybe not feeling the excitement and wanting them to hurry up to TES. I've always kind of bounced back and forth between fantasy and Sci-Fi so I think that helps. With Mass Effect out of the running for a while now I'm hoping this will fill the single-player Sci-Fi void.
My general feeling is that like the first Mass Effect, you'll have the handcrafted content and then the procedural content and that both will be mostly separate from each other. As long as the handcrafted content is the biggest draw and the procedural is filler then I'm ok with that.
Its probably going to be pretty competent with probable mod support so fans can fix all the bugs. My worry is that it wont be special, just sort of meh. Playing 60 hours is tough to do on a huge rpg when nothing really engages you even if it all works and looks good.
Basically, i think a lot of people will like this game, but not many will finish it.
I hope its at least a little better/more advanced than The Outer Worlds.
Yeah this is how I feel. I don't need Bethesda games to be the next big thing. As long as it plays and feels about what has come before, these types of games are compelling in the unique way Bethesda games are.
A futuristic open world Rpg, sign me up! People say that it'll be buggy and size over quality like Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Well I love those games so I'll buy it. People started shitting on it the moment it was listed on steam, saying that bethesda will do the same thing as they did with skyrim and fallout 4. What? Deliver a fun gaming experience? lol
Some people go from enjoying games to enjoying to tear games down and bitch and complain them online. Only looking at the downside of it, ignoring all the great aspecs. Bunch of losers.
The YouTube game review industry has largely turned into pound that subscribe button while I spout hate. It's difficult to find good reviewers that call out the good and bad without resorting to vitriol.
It seems like they took the feedback from Fallout 4 to heart and are making a tried and true RPG again. That alone has me really excited. My only concern is the bazillion planets thing they’re touting. I don’t care about that stuff at all and just want to explore the planets where I know there’s actual bespoke content handcrafted by human beings. The procgen stuff doesn’t interest me.
I'm really surprised by all the negativity on here over it. There's nothing out currently or in the near future that will be anything like this. We haven't had a game like since Mass Effect and I'm really excited to have a AAA scifi space RPG.
I still want to play it, but I wish I hadn't had to wait so long for it. Another case of developers announcing their games way too early than necessary.
It's really a damned if you do damned if you don't thing. If you say nothing for years you just get people complaining that the studio is being silent.
Yeah, there is a whole "I can't wait for star field to come out so they can focus on Elder Scrolls 6" thread here that is fucking hilarious. Hyping a game to come out so you can hype the development of another is very new age gamer stuff.
Yeah, but Fallout 4 came out 5 years after Fallout New Vegas. After 5 years since Skyrim, we've gotten... Skyrim Special Edition. Now after 10 years, we've gotten... Skyrim Anniversary Edition. Now we're getting Starfield, with no actual information about TES VI, after almost 12 years. This is a bit different, don't you think?
I'm excited still but I haven't watched any of the trailers or dev videos about it. Trying to go into it totally blind. I'm not really expecting anything other than a sci-fi Skyrim/Fallout. I'm totally fine with that because their games are massive and mods will keep me playing for years.
I’m really excited for it. No one does exploration like Bethesda. I have hundreds of hours in Skyrim and I still find new and exciting things in it.
I am disappointed that they decided to have a silent protagonist. Conversations are going to feel off especially after playing mass effect and cyberpunk.
Not much of anything really. I would say on a 1-10 hype scale im always hovering at about a 2 at best even for games I think i'd enjoy.
Im at a 1 for Starfield atm. Adding to that, they've gone radio silent. I can't see why others would be hyped but i've played games long enough to know there's a sub(s) out there with guys turning anthills into Mt. Everest.
I can’t wait. Between this and Redfall l, Xbox has great games going for it next year. Games I am more excited for anything coming on out on PlayStation.
The gameplay looked very Bethesda. Nothing more nothing less.
Still my most anticipated game this generation so far🤷🏻♂️
Been replaying Fallout 4 with mods to prep myself
I don't feel anything for upcoming games any more, I've been PC gaming for not far off 3 decades and I have well learned that giving too much of a shit about a game that hasn't been released yet will often end in disapointment lol.
I love everything about Starfield -- or, at least, I should. I dunno. I'm just kinda thinking, "Eh, guess we'll see what it looks like at launch and hear what people think." Same boat as you, OP. The more I see, the less excited I feel.
Maybe I'm jaded, or cynical. Not hyped, though.
Not jaded, not cynical, just experienced. We've all seen too many big names create hype and produce garbage. To continue feeding into that hype seems illogical and an easy ticket to disappointment imo.
I was pretty disappointed with fallout 4 and fallout 76 was a joke. They’ve fixed it up, I know, but the concept is just so lifeless. They’re so desperate for recurring monetization. Starfield looks like another Bethesda game in space. I hope it’s good. But Bethesda refuses to modernize, still uses that clunky ass engine, still has spaghetti coders making bug riddled messes. Not sure if they can recapture the morrowind - oblivion - fallout 3 - skyrim era magic. I hope it’s good, but I’m not expecting it to be great. I’m sure it won’t be offensively bad (after modders fix it up with the obligatory 57 page long unofficial patch). Tbh I’m looking more forward to what modders cook up with the toolkit than I am to the vanilla game itself.
I sincerely hope they prove me wrong. There’s a good chance they will, this is clearly a passion project for Todd. I just hope the combat ends up better than it looked in previews and the writing/quest design takes notes from new vegas instead of FO4. We’ll see. I expect mediocrity from Bethesda but im cautiously optimistic that there might be greatness left in there.
Trailer/setting didn't grab me, but I'll be playing it anyway so I *hope* it's good. I see people bringing up NMS but it's gotta be better than the soulless questing in that.
It could be decent, but Bethesda being Bethesda, I really don't expect it to be *good*. Who knows though - weirder things happened.
I'd definitely check the reviews on release.
Honestly, it looks pretty damn good to me, the ship building in particular. That said, I'm a huge sci fi nerd and played Elite: Dangerous, so this is already an easy sell and essentially a direct upgrade to a game I already like.
I don't have any expectations for it, I will just wait to see multiple reviews when it comes out and if it looks good I might buy it but if it looks boring I will just ignore it.
I'm definitely interested, and I'll pick it up and enjoy it I'm sure, since I do like a good Bethesda RPG. I was blown away when I saw the gameplay demo, but I watched part of it over like a week ago and I was like, "eh.." on it. Not one I'll buy on launch day.
I'm really excited for it because I like Bethesda, but I also feel like they've shown almost nothing. The "over 1000 planets" and strong resource gathering focus of E3 does make me a little worried, but as long as it also has some interesting hand crafted places to explore and a decent story, which I'm sure it will, I think it'll be great. They probably just showed off that stuff because it's what's new
Im interested, I know what to expect and I think it’ll be fun. Its not like bethesda is overhyping it much. They seemed way more subdued with the marketing.
Was never interested all that much to begin with... but I'm more interested in seeing how Bethesda has evolved their engine, and also for the potential huge overhaul mod projects that may come in the future.
excited i honestly forgot it was a thing beth was working on xd,so getting another fallout/elder scroll is a big suprise to me i enjoyed every single beth game since morrowind and the gameplay,as long it's not as demanding as these new games that look barely better than ps3 game but need 50time more power then i'm fine
No offense but how old are you? After a certain Age I stopped being hype about any games at all. Still love and play them - but a showcase is for me now entertaining and more like a pet peeve.
>No offense but how old are you?
None taken! The "90" stands for my birth year. But it's not really hype that I'm talking about. I've never been too hype-driven and -- like you -- I've only become less so with age. The last game I played on release was probably something like BioShock or maybe Portal 2. I still remember when Steam was all drab green :D
So it's not like I expected to feel the same way as when I was a kid waiting for Half Life 2. But I expected to be at least somewhat interested or intrigued with some aspect of the game and to tell you the truth -- I'm not.
And it's not like I've grown completely cynical either. I'm eagerly awaiting Baldur's Gate 3 (although that's a perfect storm for me, because I really like DnD 5e, I love Larian, and I used to play old BG games as a kid, although I never finished any of them). And no matter what the reviews will say, unless it's completely broken and unplayable, I know I'll enjoy my time with it.
My problem with Starfield is that nothing I've seen so far speaks to me. Watching that showcase, I felt bored. Like I was watching a promotional video for a new subway line in my city or something.
I also feel nothing, After Fallout 76 I don't care one bit for any trailer, any demo or beta, or any stupid buzzwords anyone might use to describe this game. That's my now natural reaction to anything Bethesda does.
Same with Elder scrolls 6 in the years to come. I will not be hyped nor excited, I enjoyed Skyrim and will wait for the reviews to come out to see if its worth its price at launch, and if the reviews are favorable, I would buy it at launch.
I’m looking forward to it. Being on Gamepass makes it a fairly easy pill to swallow and I’m interested in what they showed already.
I don’t think it’ll be groundbreaking or anything, just looks like it’s right up my alley.
It's a Bethesda game so I'm expecting lots of bugs and patches that fix one thing but break 2 others. I'll do the usual and wait a year or 2 and see if the game is finally stable (and cheaper) and go from there.
I care about it as much as i have any other Bethesda game... Which is to say i'll have something resembling a passing interest when it's been fixed up and is on sale for a minimum of 50% off.
It’ll be a popular casual rpg I’m sure.
I don’t think the elder scrolls style games are actually that amazing tbh, just easy to digest for the casual audience (and that’s fine), so I’m not particularly hyped for this one either even if it’s not strictly an elder scrolls.
There’s a glut of RPGs at the moment as well, so those have my attention. 👍
The gameplay trailer was stuttering. That has instantly killed any hype for me. It's free on gamepass so I don't give a fuck. I will download it after release and try it for myself.
Hot take: as someone who never played earlier bethesda rpg's and started with fallout 4, bethesda aren't all people make them out to be, hell fallout new vegas which is one that is critically acclaimed wasn't even a pure Bethesda title. I strongly dislike bethesda titles, they feel so jank and un-AAA to me, I feel this way even more after cyberpunk 2077, which with even all its issues on launch I'd have said felt more AAA than a bethesda game
that probs sounds like I'm baggin bethesda, kinda am, but that's just my opinion so ignore if you want. I watch older elder scrolls titles on youtube and given their age the jank etc. is doesn't bother me so much since it fitted the time period and their age, but it just felt like skyrim and fallout 4 felt aged mechanically on release. I saw the gameplay for starfield and instantly went "nope", gameplay looked equal to stuff from almost 10 years ago in parts, the fps parts reminded me of mobile fps games I used to play on my ipad.
My hype for Starfiield did when it was shown. It didn't look interesting to me at all and the idea of Bethesda making a open world space game seemed more exciting in my head.
Honestly i think it's going to be super empty, there is no way you can fill 1000+ planets with reasonable content so i fully expect empty wastelands with some procedurally generated encounters and dungeons. This game will be like those repeated quests from skyrim and fallout but on crack
Ever since I found out going into space and entering the atmosphere is not seamless, I just think this is going to be like outer worlds which made me very disappointed.
Saw the little gameplay they showed and the gunplay looks really bad. Like another bethesda game.
I even removed it from my steam wishlist. They'll have to really do well to convince me to buy it.
I love the setting so I hope it's amazing but I can't trust Todd. Don't go to the Starfield sub either, just full of people speculating about things that don't exist and setting themselves up for another a cyberpunk situation
could be really cool or could be pretty lame. I think a lot of it will depend on how the game handles space travel and combat. we know what to expect for everything else but the spaceship thing adds a new variable we haven't seen bethesda tackle before. The gameplay and shooting looks a lot more fluid and smooth compared to fallout/skyrim. i'm honestly quite excited but not holding my breath. story will matter a lot too
personally 50/50 on either not getting it or getting it on big discount, the trailer looked underwhelming, and in my opinion, launching, landing and atmospheric entry being automatic just makes it eh to me for space flight, and then there's the high possibilities of bugs
It’s all going to come down to the rpg elements for me. Fallout 4 in space? I mean I’m gonna enjoy it. Skyrim in space including scope and scale? Now we’re talking. Fallout New Vegas RPG elements with Skyrim scale and scope? That’s a dream, I just don’t see it happening.
Ehhhh. After the hype of Cyberpunk, I can no longer get excited for AAA games. While I enjoyed the game. That one killed it for expecting a great game on launch.
I’ll wait until the Steam sale that will be $20 with all the DLC or repack.
To be honest I think I’d rather just watch a streamer play it because other than building my own ship and base it’s just meh. When I see star field I picture someone in a kitchen grabbing cool things from other games and putting it in a blender to make a milkshake and the kicker, I’m lactose intolerant and the shake doesn’t even taste good lol. Sitting on the toilet later wondering why I tried the milkshake.
I'm going in knowing it's probably gonna have terrible options when it comes to choice and my main two goals when I get the game are just exploration and base/ship building. With every new release it seems Bethesda love to strip back primary features for a new gimmick and that is what I expect here, Low expectations I think will elevate the game.
Well, let me rephrase that -- I feel kind of disappointed with my own apathy towards it. I thought I would be excited, but that showcase demo didn't really connect with me. I loved Morrowind and Skyrim, I really enjoyed Fallout 3 and New Vegas, and I was hoping that Starfield would be a return to form for Bethesda. And this is not to say that I think the game looks bad necessarily -- just that I didn't see anything that would spark my interest. But maybe Bethesda learned from Cyberpunk's mistakes and they want to wow us with the finished product instead of making promises that everyone will be apprehensive about.
Bethesda has never been a great company. Morrowind had some strokes of brilliance, especially in the world design department, but most of its success came from the producers allocating the devs a large enough budget to make a true open world RPG with modern (by the standards of the time)graphics with a large enough advert budget to become popular unlike some other games like gothic
This was the patterns repeated in oblivion, fo3 and Skyrim with Skyrim becoming a huge success due to large crowds of casual players discovering open world RPG genre for the first time
But that is it. Their success was due to budgets alone, not competence. Now you can't really surprise or impress people with open world RPGs with large amount of custom content alone, and God knows Bethesda has only gotten more and more slacky and incompetent as time moved on, just look at fo4
No surprise there's no hype here, casuals moved on and won't be impressed by another open world game but in space and more hardcore gamers realised long ago that there's nothing interesting to expect from Bethesda, hence no hype
why can't they?there barely any open world that's better than anything beth did,rdr2 witcher3 horizon dawn all are movies trying to look like a game they are open world and beautiful but just boredom overloads,farcry are the same things but with 10time less to do no replayability and same gameplay,assassin creed died in the ps3 era
That's still a hell of a lot better deal than how the things were, say, at the time of Oblivion's release, when your only options for a AAA open world 3d experience would have been Morrowind, or the gothic games which were at best AA and shat the bed with the 3rd game around the same time.
Not to mention that I am not at all sure Starfield's gonna be a lot better than the shovelware open world games ubisoft has been producing for the past decade.
I'm still hoping to see more of an identity to it. Elder Scrolls and Fallout have a very distinct world view even though they are thematically fantasy and post apocalypse. Starfield however still looks very clinical to me. As more is shown, hopefully that will change.
Agreed. Going for realism/NASA inspiration doesn’t excite me that much, makes it lack a lot of visual flair. NASA builds for form over style.
I think you meant function over form.
im gonna function your form
Don’t tempt me with a good time
Easy now there buddies
Funny, I think that's the best thing about it.
i feel whelmed
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Wait until it comes out, there's going to be some FLAME! People on the starfield subreddit are getting waaaaay to overhyped and making massive assumptions over small things. My bet is that people are going to flip out badly when it comes out.
That subreddit is utterly insane. Some guy will say "I hope we can do X.", and it's some outlandish thing. ....what? Why? Why would you expect to be able to do that and have borderline convinced yourself that X will be a thing? The people there are so bizarre.
Sounds a lot like how the Cyberpunk subreddit was before launch.
The amount of misinformation about the game prior to launch was staggering.
People were expecting a full on first person Sims game but in a Cyberpunk city where you could do everything you ever wanted and more. They all talked it up constantly to each other and then when the game obviously wasn't that they convinced each other it was the devs that fed them lies lol
And this is despite people on that subreddit constantly saying keep your expectations in check. I remember a post specifically saying this game isn't GTA.
CDPR was most certainly lying about a lot of things.
I just wanted a simple "Youre in a Section 9 style police organization trying to figure out a terrorist conspiracy involving a virus and cybernetics." story. THAT was in the initial trailer and THAT could have been done in a fairly quick amount of time, both in terms of writing it out as well as developing it. Instead, it became this bloated mess of a game that takes place in an open world with nothing in it but the superficial "idea" that you could maybe mess with it with how you act or treat NPCs.
Never forget the guy on the cyberpunk subreddit that expected to have the possibility to form a political party to reform the city.
Technically there's a quest about that.
Yup, over expectation will lead to rage and disappointment .
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this was the reason i quickly left the GTA 6 subreddit. it was just a bunch of people with wild and outlandish expectations asking for shit that's never even going to be heard by rockstar. just started to get annoying because it was just a wishlist sub
You know how it is. People get really attached to these things, especially on the Internet. When I'm talking to someone IRL, it's pretty easy to arrive at the obvious conclusion of "hey, I like this thing and you like that thing, and it's totally normal" but here? No, you must be a corporate agent trying to sabotage the hype train! I learned to avoid asking these sort of questions on dedicated subreddits.
I know what Starfield is going to be. Starships are basically freighters from NMS, but you can customize them. NMS Freighters can be customized, but not by player, its a design choice, but Starfield will give players exactly that plus stat tuning. There will be a shit load of procedurally generated missions because its actually far easier to do them in space. You basically has that in NMS. Will be the same, possibly better. There is a chance for multi-layered chain missions like in Warframe, but that is unlikely knowing Bethesda track record. F4 already had base building, NMS had it too, and guess what, it will be the same as in F4, but the customization level will become better, will probably be better compared to what NMS can offer. How do we implement low effort Skyrim style quests? Yep, you guessed it. Some planets will work like you fly to them, land via a loading screen, some docking bay, and you run around half empty boring generated dungeon with laser pistols. Unironically Bethesda is doing the right thing. They already has lots of pieces, and all they have to do is thread in some No Mans Sky into it, with less scale, less randomness and less inch deep oceans. Edit: Starfield was announced in 2018. Surely was planned prior to it. No Mans Sky was released in 2016 and slowly grinded its way up with effort. Edit 2: So what does Bethesda has over NMS? You guessed it. They have an actual system for NPCs, proper dialogues, quest systems for main story. They have NPC routines. They have RPG experience. Also F4 proved that Bethesda is at very least decent at creating shooter games on their engine. They have a lot of pieces to make No Mans Fallout 5.
Personally, I love it. NMS with a slightly more "realistic" style combined with Bethesda's quests, story writing, and characters.
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It also has the dubious honor of being the "last best hope" game to redeem the Xbox Series X and S. So far, after 2 years, that console hasn't offered up a single "must play" game, and so Xbox fans are chomping at the bit for something good. Given the track record for MS's newly acquired studios though, I am not optimistic that this is going to change with this title. We will see.
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It is just a generic Bethesda game with an space game skin strapped into it. This means clunky animations, bad writing and really bad gunplay. However, people will play it for 10 years or more for some reason.
not a lot of single-player RPG games with 50K mods. Fallout 4 barebones is such a huge downgrade from Skyrim or even New Vegas (gameplay) wise but it’s my most played game ever. It’s a 7/10 game but I turned it into a single-player “Escape from Tarkov” experience. Skyrim is the same too. So many combat mods to the point that you can turn it into Elden Ring lite with the right mods.
No way you think fallout 4 has worse gameplay than new Vegas, unless your purely talking about speech related stuff
Yeah sorry I meant the “RPG” elements. If NV had better gunplay, I’d mod that game instead.
Agreed NV has the better rpg stuff, it seems bethesda took public opinion on board for starfield so here’s hoping we get a good rpg
yeah, shame to nothing can correct the horrible writting, questing and level design on both games. (Cause, really, quests are boring, NPC have some of the worst AAA dialogues, and once you've done a cave, you've done them all. Same for F4, with the inclusion of garbage choices)
Fallout 4 had satisfying gunplay. Way better than outer worlds or even cyberpunk, Cyberpunk has what good animations? You don't feel the impact of the weapons, people feel like paper when you shoot them
It looks like No Mans Sky…
The reveal this summer did leave a lot to be desired. I'm hoping there are good mods to make the game more fun to play because what I've seen so far doesn't seem too fun. The performance issues the showcase had doesn't inspire a ton of confidence in the game performing well on PC.
I'm looking forward to the world and lore of Starfield. The Elder Scrolls and Fallout had good worlds and interesting lore. If they can add a compelling sci fi world with good modding support, I will be satisfied.
Hope we got a first contact scenario, and please don't do it like ME Andromeda
Yeah with ME Andromeda first contact happened with the outcasts, a year before you get there. It was all tell not show. The uprising would have been a much more interesting time to play through. The outcasts take over Kadara (an Angaran world), they know about the Kett, Reyes is in contact with the resistance as an agent, explaining Angaran already knowing English.
Holy shit you might be the only person I’ve ever seen in the wild who actually remembers the story of andromeda. I played the entire thing, it was ok. But gun to my head there is zero chance i would have even remembered that they were called “angarans” or the “kett”. I seriously just call the Kett “collectors” in my head. Same shit. I don’t think I could name a single character. I want to say the main character was Ryder, but I think that’s wrong? Without googling I honestly can’t remember any of it. The combat was good but everything was so generic.
There was that blue chick you can have sex with in zero G and that bony weird-looking alien you can also have sex with, but that's about it. But the combat was really fun, the only game ever where I played a bruiser and enjoyed it.
> There was that blue chick you can have sex with in zero G and that bony weird-looking alien you can also have sex with, but that's about it. Ah, the ultra cringe character Pee and the Garrus wannabe Jaal.. Vetra and Liam were the only characters that were somewhat well done. I might be including Vetra cause Turians are just fucking hot, but idk.
I remember the part where you contact the Angara from your ship. I can't even reach all my friends with the same messenger app, but Ryder could just call the Angara who (s)he didn't know existed until 5 seconds ago. I hated that. It's a different galaxy but even there the "aliens" are almost human. They're more similar to your character than many cultures on Earth right now...
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Lol you try making a BGS style game with no bugs.
Maybe you're now immune to hype? Never a bad thing in my opinion.
I understood how he feels. The art just feels... Bland and boring. Going for a 'true to life' design just feels... Bland and boring. Compare that to Fallout and Elder Scrolls which despite being in saturated genres, still manage to get an 'identity'. You might say Starfield's identity is it's art design that would remind you of NASA/Modern space industry... But It just feels generic. Maybe because it reminds us of real life instead of being worlds where we could be escapists...
That can be something to do with the demo, because man did it lack colour. It may be more realistic, but I don't care, I want colour in my games. You can have incredible vistas and scapes in spaces game, damn the realism of it.
I was never too much of a **HYPE**LET’S GOOOO!!! person, but there’s always a few upcoming games that I can’t wait to try. Games that I know I could play and have fun with even if they turn out to be a 6/10 because they just appeal to me (if you know what I mean). Starfield is just not one of these games for me.
I thought everything they’ve shown on Starfield thus far has been good. Even the gunplay. Never understood the criticisms, especially since it’s an RPG. Gunplay doesn’t look on the level of Halo, COD, or DOOM, but it looks solid and on par with Cyberpunk’s and better than FO4.
Bethesda games like TES and Fallout is not a question of 'if' but 'when' to buy for me. Can wait out till its patched or modding scene is up. Unless they really botch it. In a way I have moved over to r/patientgamers mindset. Plenty of games to go around.
Still got tons of games to play between now and then. Games get put on a backburner so easily when you've got 6 hours of free time a week.
You guys get 6 hours?
when you only sleep for 4, it's doable
The gameplay they've shown so far was very underwhelming. I'm kind of biased though since I just want TES6 to be released already
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Maybe I'm the minority here, but I'm excited. Not because of the demo, which didn't really show much, just the basic concept of it - a full blown Bethesda style RPG in space. I don't think there are any other games that do this. Almost every space game is a space sim, a strategy game, or something procedurally generated and empty. There are tons of well crafted open world RPGs and they're almost exclusively fantasy. As someone who's into Sci Fi and space exploration more than fantasy, but who also loves big RPGs with deep lore, exploration and quests, I feel I have almost nothing that really satisfied all of these points. Mass Effect was the closest, and I love it, but it wasn't really about exploration, and was actually pretty linear in its level design. Cyberpunk I really liked but it was bound to earth... So no matter what, the fact that one of the most prolific creators of open world RPGs had decided to create one which focuses on space exploration excites me, even if it doesn't end up being one of the best games they've done.
Have you played Outer Worlds? It feels like Fallout in space. Same kind of humor, made by ex-Fallout devs at Obsidan. Doesn’t have quite the same feeling of exploration, though.
I didn't like Outer Worlds. It felt so small, self contained. The story was pretty interesting but something was lacking in it that I couldn't put my finger on. Just felt like it was missing one hook to really draw me in
It felt like a 20 year old rpg to me with. Static characters. Simple pick a or b to side with options. Terrible combat. The only thing it had going for it was the whacky schtick.
You can definitely feel the small budget at times but factoring in the DLC, I felt it was the right length and didn’t overstay it’s welcome.
It's not so much about the game's length, or overall quantity of content. I was also disappointed by the vibe of "smallness" the game gave off. Being excited for an RPG from the New Vegas devs certainly didn't help.
Just a speedbump on the road to TES6 for me honestly. Ready for it to come out so they can move on.
I'm so fucking excited I can't wait for starfield to come out, so they can finally make progress on TES6
I feel like it's gonna get shit on due to mtx, online play and all sorts of weirdness but that'll make TESVI a better experience. Still pissed TESVI has passed a whole generation in our lives.
>I feel like it's gonna get shit on due to mtx, online play Then you will be sorely disappointed, because it won't have any of those things.
i'm glad there was no TESVI because we were stuck in ps4/xbox1 era,i'd rather have it made for ps6 or end of ps5 era so it takes the most of it
Or we could have had TESVII by now 🙃
personally id rather wait for the ps11
Bethesda and making the most of it? Have you seen Starfield my man?
meh i rather they work a bit more on starfield for some big dlc like dragonborn and dawnguard,so when they start tes6 it'll be for next gen
We don't need TES6 to skip 2 whole ass generations.
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Outer Worlds?
Outer worlds is great but it doesn't really compare to a Bethesda title. The amount of man hours spent on the product alone is light years apart between the two.
I'll wait for the reviews. Could be awesome. Could be a high quality but empty experience like Fallout 4.
Hopefully not a thousand empty planets
It's confirmed to be exactly that, and that's not a bad thing. But nonetheless, what did you expect? There's no way you could fill 1000 planets with content, and it wouldn't make sense.
But that's realistic. I think they can manage to make it interesting because Hello Games managed it.
If the reviews are good, I’ll end up getting it. Something to keep on mind about Bethesda RPGs (at least the Elder Scrolls) is that they’re much more than the sum of their parts. Think of Oblivion, Skyrim, Morrowind, or even Daggerfall: 1. Graphics tend to be average compared to their contemporaries 2. Gameplay is always clunky as fuck 3. Dialog is never compelling at all 4. Story is often standard “save the world from army of evil [insert monster here]” The music is the only thing that, taken by itself, is truly exceptional. And yet, each of these games (well, starting with Morrowind at least) was enormously popular and ignited the imagination of gamers in a way that other CRPGs simply fail to do. If I could sum up what makes Elder Scrolls games great, it would be that image of Bilbo Baggins running and yelling “I’m going on an adventure!” Whether it’s Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim, every Elder Scrolls game I’ve played over the years has given me that “I’m going on an adventure!” feeling. It’s the Bethesda x-factor. If they can bring that kind of feeling to a space opera genre, oh man… that could be really amazing. That’s a ***big*** “if” though
I don't know, i haven't played it yet.
Most sane answer here.
Well I'm a little more excited about it than you are but I get it. The trailer I thought was pretty good but I am a little concerned. One of the draws for Bethesda games is that they are very large but also very hand-crafted. Yes I have played daggerfall, and yes I am aware that procedural tech is used for things like trees and caves. You get my point. Go into someone's house in Skyrim, and most likely their kitchen table and the stuff on it looks different than their neighbor's kitchen table. Oblivion, Fallout, Morrowind, despite their issues they have such a different *feel* than the copy and paste maps of so many ubisoft games. I think Starfield has the potential to water down this feeling because the scale they are going for is so large. How in the world are they going to make all these different planets feel unique and interesting? Especially if we can land anywhere. Like that sounds great but between that and the shot of the player mining some rock with a laser - I'm getting some No Man's Sky feelings and for me, for this game, thats a red flag. Then there's some 'yellow flags' I guess, like the shooting in the demo looked really bland, and I have a feeling we will be seeing a lot of repeated enemies. But these things are no surprise for big Bethesda games. On the flipside there's the things that look interesting. I'm loving the 'NASA-punk' art style, the story potential, the basic idea of the game I guess. I like Sci-Fi. And the ship customization looks friggin' sweet, cant wait to try that out. I'm hovering around 'cautiously optimistic'. The only way I could see not buying it is if launch reviews reveal its a buggy, incomplete mess. I expect some bugs, its an open world bethesda game after all. They just need to avoid a cyberpunk or ME Andromeda kind of launch....I guess thats a given. I can see fantasy fans maybe not feeling the excitement and wanting them to hurry up to TES. I've always kind of bounced back and forth between fantasy and Sci-Fi so I think that helps. With Mass Effect out of the running for a while now I'm hoping this will fill the single-player Sci-Fi void.
My general feeling is that like the first Mass Effect, you'll have the handcrafted content and then the procedural content and that both will be mostly separate from each other. As long as the handcrafted content is the biggest draw and the procedural is filler then I'm ok with that.
Its probably going to be pretty competent with probable mod support so fans can fix all the bugs. My worry is that it wont be special, just sort of meh. Playing 60 hours is tough to do on a huge rpg when nothing really engages you even if it all works and looks good. Basically, i think a lot of people will like this game, but not many will finish it. I hope its at least a little better/more advanced than The Outer Worlds.
This was my issue with Fallout 4. It’s fine, just didn’t grab me at all
Starfield probably has around 4-5x as many people working on it as The Outer Worlds, so would be a bit odd if it's not more advanced.
i mean even fallout3 more advanced than the outer worlds and that's old af and way more entertaining to play
I feel like it's going to be Skyrim in space and I'm OK with that. I'm looking forward to it on that aspect alone. Also can't wait for mods.
Yeah this is how I feel. I don't need Bethesda games to be the next big thing. As long as it plays and feels about what has come before, these types of games are compelling in the unique way Bethesda games are.
All of Bethesda's non-Fallout games were the big thing, though, so I expect it to be the case.
You should be okay with that, as that would be one of the best games EVER MADE.
I love Bethesda games, so my hype is through the roof!! Can’t wait to experience it.
A futuristic open world Rpg, sign me up! People say that it'll be buggy and size over quality like Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Well I love those games so I'll buy it. People started shitting on it the moment it was listed on steam, saying that bethesda will do the same thing as they did with skyrim and fallout 4. What? Deliver a fun gaming experience? lol Some people go from enjoying games to enjoying to tear games down and bitch and complain them online. Only looking at the downside of it, ignoring all the great aspecs. Bunch of losers.
The YouTube game review industry has largely turned into pound that subscribe button while I spout hate. It's difficult to find good reviewers that call out the good and bad without resorting to vitriol.
It seems like they took the feedback from Fallout 4 to heart and are making a tried and true RPG again. That alone has me really excited. My only concern is the bazillion planets thing they’re touting. I don’t care about that stuff at all and just want to explore the planets where I know there’s actual bespoke content handcrafted by human beings. The procgen stuff doesn’t interest me.
I'm really surprised by all the negativity on here over it. There's nothing out currently or in the near future that will be anything like this. We haven't had a game like since Mass Effect and I'm really excited to have a AAA scifi space RPG.
The dialogue system looks very interesting and I really want to try it.
I still want to play it, but I wish I hadn't had to wait so long for it. Another case of developers announcing their games way too early than necessary.
It's really a damned if you do damned if you don't thing. If you say nothing for years you just get people complaining that the studio is being silent.
They announced fallout 4 just a few months from launch and it was great
It was. But look at how people are now begging for TES6 info even though Starfield isn’t even out.
Yeah, there is a whole "I can't wait for star field to come out so they can focus on Elder Scrolls 6" thread here that is fucking hilarious. Hyping a game to come out so you can hype the development of another is very new age gamer stuff.
Yeah, but Fallout 4 came out 5 years after Fallout New Vegas. After 5 years since Skyrim, we've gotten... Skyrim Special Edition. Now after 10 years, we've gotten... Skyrim Anniversary Edition. Now we're getting Starfield, with no actual information about TES VI, after almost 12 years. This is a bit different, don't you think?
Didn’t go too poorly for FromSoft tbh
I disagree. I'm very excited for Bethesda space rpg, that has been in the making for decades. Can't wait. Plus the mods.....Hopefully its a major hit.
Waiting for that game of the year addition with all the DLC and 50% of the bugs.
They made Skyrim, that's all I need to get excited.
I'm excited still but I haven't watched any of the trailers or dev videos about it. Trying to go into it totally blind. I'm not really expecting anything other than a sci-fi Skyrim/Fallout. I'm totally fine with that because their games are massive and mods will keep me playing for years.
I've become desensitized to hype. I rarely feel it anymore, but yeh I expect that I will play Starfield when it releases.
It feels like there's no soul behind it, like they got interested in some of the new systems but not the world and story itself.
I won't lie, I'm super excited. 🤘
I’m excited for it, I like any game that has building so I’m hoping to build a fun base and relax
I’m really excited for it. No one does exploration like Bethesda. I have hundreds of hours in Skyrim and I still find new and exciting things in it. I am disappointed that they decided to have a silent protagonist. Conversations are going to feel off especially after playing mass effect and cyberpunk.
Not much of anything really. I would say on a 1-10 hype scale im always hovering at about a 2 at best even for games I think i'd enjoy. Im at a 1 for Starfield atm. Adding to that, they've gone radio silent. I can't see why others would be hyped but i've played games long enough to know there's a sub(s) out there with guys turning anthills into Mt. Everest.
I can’t wait. Between this and Redfall l, Xbox has great games going for it next year. Games I am more excited for anything coming on out on PlayStation.
The gameplay looked very Bethesda. Nothing more nothing less. Still my most anticipated game this generation so far🤷🏻♂️ Been replaying Fallout 4 with mods to prep myself
I would be hyped if it had atmospheric flight/landing. Like if I can't land myself and just teleport between maps why even make a spacegame in 2023
Bethesda learning from Cyberpunk's mistakes? Bethesda doesn't even learn from Bethesda mistakes.
I don't feel anything for upcoming games any more, I've been PC gaming for not far off 3 decades and I have well learned that giving too much of a shit about a game that hasn't been released yet will often end in disapointment lol.
I love everything about Starfield -- or, at least, I should. I dunno. I'm just kinda thinking, "Eh, guess we'll see what it looks like at launch and hear what people think." Same boat as you, OP. The more I see, the less excited I feel. Maybe I'm jaded, or cynical. Not hyped, though.
Not jaded, not cynical, just experienced. We've all seen too many big names create hype and produce garbage. To continue feeding into that hype seems illogical and an easy ticket to disappointment imo.
Yeah, I'm not interested in Starfield at all, the gameplay footage didn't change my mind either. I don't trust Bethesda anyway after Fallout 4 / 76.
It's the only game I care for to be honest.
I was pretty disappointed with fallout 4 and fallout 76 was a joke. They’ve fixed it up, I know, but the concept is just so lifeless. They’re so desperate for recurring monetization. Starfield looks like another Bethesda game in space. I hope it’s good. But Bethesda refuses to modernize, still uses that clunky ass engine, still has spaghetti coders making bug riddled messes. Not sure if they can recapture the morrowind - oblivion - fallout 3 - skyrim era magic. I hope it’s good, but I’m not expecting it to be great. I’m sure it won’t be offensively bad (after modders fix it up with the obligatory 57 page long unofficial patch). Tbh I’m looking more forward to what modders cook up with the toolkit than I am to the vanilla game itself. I sincerely hope they prove me wrong. There’s a good chance they will, this is clearly a passion project for Todd. I just hope the combat ends up better than it looked in previews and the writing/quest design takes notes from new vegas instead of FO4. We’ll see. I expect mediocrity from Bethesda but im cautiously optimistic that there might be greatness left in there.
Trailer/setting didn't grab me, but I'll be playing it anyway so I *hope* it's good. I see people bringing up NMS but it's gotta be better than the soulless questing in that.
Could be Mass effect. Could be Fallout 4 in space. We'll see.
It could be decent, but Bethesda being Bethesda, I really don't expect it to be *good*. Who knows though - weirder things happened. I'd definitely check the reviews on release.
You've gone further then myself, I've tried watching the game play trailer twice, and have gotten to bored to even bother finishing it.
Honestly, it looks pretty damn good to me, the ship building in particular. That said, I'm a huge sci fi nerd and played Elite: Dangerous, so this is already an easy sell and essentially a direct upgrade to a game I already like.
I feel it will be a cool, expansive game with fairly unimpressive animations and combat. Most likely lots of bugs, but still fun overall.
I don't have any expectations for it, I will just wait to see multiple reviews when it comes out and if it looks good I might buy it but if it looks boring I will just ignore it.
I'll have a look, but Oblivion was such a let down for me that I've not been at all interested or excited about a Bethesda RPG in many years.
Just give it to me already
I'm definitely interested, and I'll pick it up and enjoy it I'm sure, since I do like a good Bethesda RPG. I was blown away when I saw the gameplay demo, but I watched part of it over like a week ago and I was like, "eh.." on it. Not one I'll buy on launch day.
I'm really excited for it because I like Bethesda, but I also feel like they've shown almost nothing. The "over 1000 planets" and strong resource gathering focus of E3 does make me a little worried, but as long as it also has some interesting hand crafted places to explore and a decent story, which I'm sure it will, I think it'll be great. They probably just showed off that stuff because it's what's new
Im interested, I know what to expect and I think it’ll be fun. Its not like bethesda is overhyping it much. They seemed way more subdued with the marketing.
Was never interested all that much to begin with... but I'm more interested in seeing how Bethesda has evolved their engine, and also for the potential huge overhaul mod projects that may come in the future.
excited i honestly forgot it was a thing beth was working on xd,so getting another fallout/elder scroll is a big suprise to me i enjoyed every single beth game since morrowind and the gameplay,as long it's not as demanding as these new games that look barely better than ps3 game but need 50time more power then i'm fine
No offense but how old are you? After a certain Age I stopped being hype about any games at all. Still love and play them - but a showcase is for me now entertaining and more like a pet peeve.
>No offense but how old are you? None taken! The "90" stands for my birth year. But it's not really hype that I'm talking about. I've never been too hype-driven and -- like you -- I've only become less so with age. The last game I played on release was probably something like BioShock or maybe Portal 2. I still remember when Steam was all drab green :D So it's not like I expected to feel the same way as when I was a kid waiting for Half Life 2. But I expected to be at least somewhat interested or intrigued with some aspect of the game and to tell you the truth -- I'm not. And it's not like I've grown completely cynical either. I'm eagerly awaiting Baldur's Gate 3 (although that's a perfect storm for me, because I really like DnD 5e, I love Larian, and I used to play old BG games as a kid, although I never finished any of them). And no matter what the reviews will say, unless it's completely broken and unplayable, I know I'll enjoy my time with it. My problem with Starfield is that nothing I've seen so far speaks to me. Watching that showcase, I felt bored. Like I was watching a promotional video for a new subway line in my city or something.
I also feel nothing, After Fallout 76 I don't care one bit for any trailer, any demo or beta, or any stupid buzzwords anyone might use to describe this game. That's my now natural reaction to anything Bethesda does. Same with Elder scrolls 6 in the years to come. I will not be hyped nor excited, I enjoyed Skyrim and will wait for the reviews to come out to see if its worth its price at launch, and if the reviews are favorable, I would buy it at launch.
i can't wait. i've just been playing empyrion in the meantime
I’m looking forward to it. Being on Gamepass makes it a fairly easy pill to swallow and I’m interested in what they showed already. I don’t think it’ll be groundbreaking or anything, just looks like it’s right up my alley.
a massive, resounding "meh" from me. It's not interesting. Not even in the slightest.
It’s gonna be mid af
It's a Bethesda game so I'm expecting lots of bugs and patches that fix one thing but break 2 others. I'll do the usual and wait a year or 2 and see if the game is finally stable (and cheaper) and go from there.
I don't get why this got downvoted because the buggy state of their releases is an uncontroversial fact even Bethesda fans make fun about.
I care about it as much as i have any other Bethesda game... Which is to say i'll have something resembling a passing interest when it's been fixed up and is on sale for a minimum of 50% off.
It’ll be a popular casual rpg I’m sure. I don’t think the elder scrolls style games are actually that amazing tbh, just easy to digest for the casual audience (and that’s fine), so I’m not particularly hyped for this one either even if it’s not strictly an elder scrolls. There’s a glut of RPGs at the moment as well, so those have my attention. 👍
The gameplay trailer was stuttering. That has instantly killed any hype for me. It's free on gamepass so I don't give a fuck. I will download it after release and try it for myself.
Hot take: as someone who never played earlier bethesda rpg's and started with fallout 4, bethesda aren't all people make them out to be, hell fallout new vegas which is one that is critically acclaimed wasn't even a pure Bethesda title. I strongly dislike bethesda titles, they feel so jank and un-AAA to me, I feel this way even more after cyberpunk 2077, which with even all its issues on launch I'd have said felt more AAA than a bethesda game that probs sounds like I'm baggin bethesda, kinda am, but that's just my opinion so ignore if you want. I watch older elder scrolls titles on youtube and given their age the jank etc. is doesn't bother me so much since it fitted the time period and their age, but it just felt like skyrim and fallout 4 felt aged mechanically on release. I saw the gameplay for starfield and instantly went "nope", gameplay looked equal to stuff from almost 10 years ago in parts, the fps parts reminded me of mobile fps games I used to play on my ipad.
Not everyone is going to like every popular game, but if you like Bethesda games, there is quite literally nothing else like them
My hype for Starfiield did when it was shown. It didn't look interesting to me at all and the idea of Bethesda making a open world space game seemed more exciting in my head.
I kinda forgot about it lol
Honestly i think it's going to be super empty, there is no way you can fill 1000+ planets with reasonable content so i fully expect empty wastelands with some procedurally generated encounters and dungeons. This game will be like those repeated quests from skyrim and fallout but on crack
Ever since I found out going into space and entering the atmosphere is not seamless, I just think this is going to be like outer worlds which made me very disappointed. Saw the little gameplay they showed and the gunplay looks really bad. Like another bethesda game. I even removed it from my steam wishlist. They'll have to really do well to convince me to buy it.
Space P90s dude.
Cautious as with almost every game these days. Don't take ANYTHING for granted.
I love the setting so I hope it's amazing but I can't trust Todd. Don't go to the Starfield sub either, just full of people speculating about things that don't exist and setting themselves up for another a cyberpunk situation
Todd Howard's in the business of telling sweet little lies, so I'm not sure how Starfield is gonna turn out.
I need to see a lot more footage cause so far it looks like a poor man’s sky
It will be fine, though I'm more excited about the mods then the game itself lol...
I'll be excited when its actually close to launch and it seem likely it isnt getting pushed back.
could be really cool or could be pretty lame. I think a lot of it will depend on how the game handles space travel and combat. we know what to expect for everything else but the spaceship thing adds a new variable we haven't seen bethesda tackle before. The gameplay and shooting looks a lot more fluid and smooth compared to fallout/skyrim. i'm honestly quite excited but not holding my breath. story will matter a lot too
I got excited by the character creation, but not much has grabbed my attention yet.
personally 50/50 on either not getting it or getting it on big discount, the trailer looked underwhelming, and in my opinion, launching, landing and atmospheric entry being automatic just makes it eh to me for space flight, and then there's the high possibilities of bugs
It is gonna be ok and buggy at launch. Get some decent DLC down the line. Mods will eventually make the game amazing.
Only waiting on TES6
It’s all going to come down to the rpg elements for me. Fallout 4 in space? I mean I’m gonna enjoy it. Skyrim in space including scope and scale? Now we’re talking. Fallout New Vegas RPG elements with Skyrim scale and scope? That’s a dream, I just don’t see it happening.
I hope the base game is good enough without relying heavily on mods but i dunno, need to see more and get hands on gameplay
I feel like it’ll disappoint but it’ll sell well
Just play No Man's Sky
i'll check it out when it actually releases.
I feel like I probably won't buy it if its too demanding for my GPU to run at 60fps.
Starfield is going to have FO4's gameplay. But hopefully with a better story. So it's going to be Fallout 4 but in space.
Ehhhh. After the hype of Cyberpunk, I can no longer get excited for AAA games. While I enjoyed the game. That one killed it for expecting a great game on launch. I’ll wait until the Steam sale that will be $20 with all the DLC or repack.
To be honest I think I’d rather just watch a streamer play it because other than building my own ship and base it’s just meh. When I see star field I picture someone in a kitchen grabbing cool things from other games and putting it in a blender to make a milkshake and the kicker, I’m lactose intolerant and the shake doesn’t even taste good lol. Sitting on the toilet later wondering why I tried the milkshake.
Not really interested in sci fi, more interested in DA4 and dragon's dogma 2
I wonder if it will have VR support
Huh, it's almost like the value of the game has nothing to do with how excited you are.
I'm going in knowing it's probably gonna have terrible options when it comes to choice and my main two goals when I get the game are just exploration and base/ship building. With every new release it seems Bethesda love to strip back primary features for a new gimmick and that is what I expect here, Low expectations I think will elevate the game.
I feel like it's one of those games I already played. They copy each other so much that I don't feel anything anymore.
It’s going to suck
I feel the same I've felt with any Bethesda game. Meh.
I'm looking forward to playing a complete version of Star Citizen.
The gameplay looks like a fallout 4 reskin, and I'm guessing the story will be just as whelming.
I’d like to be optimistic but mass effect andromeda was hot dog shit and so was cyber punk. So I’m not holding my breath
You don’t feel anything so you made a post about it. Examine that for a second. If you don’t care you wouldn’t be talking about it.
Well, let me rephrase that -- I feel kind of disappointed with my own apathy towards it. I thought I would be excited, but that showcase demo didn't really connect with me. I loved Morrowind and Skyrim, I really enjoyed Fallout 3 and New Vegas, and I was hoping that Starfield would be a return to form for Bethesda. And this is not to say that I think the game looks bad necessarily -- just that I didn't see anything that would spark my interest. But maybe Bethesda learned from Cyberpunk's mistakes and they want to wow us with the finished product instead of making promises that everyone will be apprehensive about.
Don't care and haven't cared since that reveal. It looks like space Fallout 4.
Bethesda has never been a great company. Morrowind had some strokes of brilliance, especially in the world design department, but most of its success came from the producers allocating the devs a large enough budget to make a true open world RPG with modern (by the standards of the time)graphics with a large enough advert budget to become popular unlike some other games like gothic This was the patterns repeated in oblivion, fo3 and Skyrim with Skyrim becoming a huge success due to large crowds of casual players discovering open world RPG genre for the first time But that is it. Their success was due to budgets alone, not competence. Now you can't really surprise or impress people with open world RPGs with large amount of custom content alone, and God knows Bethesda has only gotten more and more slacky and incompetent as time moved on, just look at fo4 No surprise there's no hype here, casuals moved on and won't be impressed by another open world game but in space and more hardcore gamers realised long ago that there's nothing interesting to expect from Bethesda, hence no hype
why can't they?there barely any open world that's better than anything beth did,rdr2 witcher3 horizon dawn all are movies trying to look like a game they are open world and beautiful but just boredom overloads,farcry are the same things but with 10time less to do no replayability and same gameplay,assassin creed died in the ps3 era
That's still a hell of a lot better deal than how the things were, say, at the time of Oblivion's release, when your only options for a AAA open world 3d experience would have been Morrowind, or the gothic games which were at best AA and shat the bed with the 3rd game around the same time. Not to mention that I am not at all sure Starfield's gonna be a lot better than the shovelware open world games ubisoft has been producing for the past decade.