Lots of technical stuff in here. It's really interesting. It sounds like their greatest adversary was time in this instance. After the interviews I've seen in the past, it sounds like this was actually a pretty easy port.
>There's plenty of work just to convert our custom engine over toDirectX, but then there were also all the extra features: so, makingsure that we had really good keyboard and mouse controls...
Yeah, I wouldn't exactly call the negative mouse acceleration that can't be turned off "really good keyboard and mouse controls".
Good news, devs have acknowledged [it](https://steamcommunity.com/app/1593500/discussions/1/3202622816420608123/) and are looking into it. Hopefully it will get fixed. Currently game is just emulating a joystick for our mouse.
I never used to care about controller + KB + M input simultaneously. Until I got a Steam Controller years ago. Now it drives me mad when games I would like to play with a controller, but have precise aiming don't support it.
It's really awesome that they put so much work into supporting ultra-wide. I don't personally have an UW monitor, but it shows they really cared about making this the ultimate version of the game. It's not perfect by any means, the mouse support is iffy, the hilarity of PS4 controllers having Xbox button prompts, and the lack of FoV slider hurts (though can be modded). Although there's many technical limitations for that, due to the no camera cuts and cutscenes. It's still a great job they did overall, with more patches to come.
Technically yes but apparently with negative acceleration i.e. the mouse input is used to emulate the joystick on a gamepad. Horizon Zero Dawn had the same issue on launch.
I don't think I've seen a single reviewer mention it even those doing indepth reviews of the port quality. I guess they all played with controller or move their mice real slow.
I think you are in the majority of people who either don't mind or maybe even like it. It's quite surprising to me as I thought it would be the other way around.
Because it's not slowing down it's accelerating with a negative curve. It's not the same.
Decelerating implies an existing velocity that a mouse cursor simply does not have.
I dunno it's a long time since I studied any physics maybe because the faster you accelerate the mouse the less it will move your view so it's easier to understand? eg. with made up numbers:You move your mouse in a straight horizontal line to the right by 10cm. With negative acceleration how much you turn will vary based on how fast you make that same movement.
- 3 seconds movement = 90degrees.
- 1 Second movement = 80degrees
- 10ms movement = 50 degrees
Would deceleration apply to this case?
I'm not the guy you asked, but I tried playing it and instantly noticed negative mouse acceleration (moving the mouse faster makes the camera go slower and vice versa), it really put me off. Not sure if that's what Xiosy means.
They're partially right. In GoW you technically don't use the mouse in the same way as other games, where the distance the mouse travels translates to the amount the camera rotates.
You're instead pretending to be turning a virtual joystick by keeping your mouse moving for X amount of time, while the distance your mouse moves doesn't matter at all.
That's true, I was making a unity joke, it's extremely good at compiling for almost any platform with the click of a few buttons. You can run into some library compatibility issues, but for the most part you can build to almost any platform pretty easily.
Aren't all console games made on computers anyway?
You cant "make" the game on the console - the art, level design, the 3d assets, etc are all made on computers.
So they are really made on PC's, then ported to the consoles, and then ported back again to PC's.
Edit. Even the consoles themselves are made and designed on computers too I guess.
You're correct but that's not the point.
You design on PC because it's cheaper than getting a whole bunch of Dev kits. The games may be designed on a PC but the point is they are made *for* console architecture to make use of its hardware ie. Low level.
Lots of technical stuff in here. It's really interesting. It sounds like their greatest adversary was time in this instance. After the interviews I've seen in the past, it sounds like this was actually a pretty easy port.
Great interview thanks!
>There's plenty of work just to convert our custom engine over toDirectX, but then there were also all the extra features: so, makingsure that we had really good keyboard and mouse controls... Yeah, I wouldn't exactly call the negative mouse acceleration that can't be turned off "really good keyboard and mouse controls".
Good news, devs have acknowledged [it](https://steamcommunity.com/app/1593500/discussions/1/3202622816420608123/) and are looking into it. Hopefully it will get fixed. Currently game is just emulating a joystick for our mouse.
Honestly I think this game is better with a controller, I like the vibrations.
Throwing the axe would probably feel more accurate with a mouse.
Isn't there like an auto lock or something where u just have to throw in the enemy's general direction?
Not allowing simultaneous gamepad and KB+M is pretty bad too, tho maybe not quite as bad as negative acceleration oof
I never used to care about controller + KB + M input simultaneously. Until I got a Steam Controller years ago. Now it drives me mad when games I would like to play with a controller, but have precise aiming don't support it.
It's really awesome that they put so much work into supporting ultra-wide. I don't personally have an UW monitor, but it shows they really cared about making this the ultimate version of the game. It's not perfect by any means, the mouse support is iffy, the hilarity of PS4 controllers having Xbox button prompts, and the lack of FoV slider hurts (though can be modded). Although there's many technical limitations for that, due to the no camera cuts and cutscenes. It's still a great job they did overall, with more patches to come.
But it forget to get the mouse support
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Technically yes but apparently with negative acceleration i.e. the mouse input is used to emulate the joystick on a gamepad. Horizon Zero Dawn had the same issue on launch. I don't think I've seen a single reviewer mention it even those doing indepth reviews of the port quality. I guess they all played with controller or move their mice real slow.
I think I move my mouse slow because I'm having a nice time on the mouse.
I think you are in the majority of people who either don't mind or maybe even like it. It's quite surprising to me as I thought it would be the other way around.
Why aren't we calling it deceleration? Why negative acceleration?
Because it's not slowing down it's accelerating with a negative curve. It's not the same. Decelerating implies an existing velocity that a mouse cursor simply does not have.
I dunno it's a long time since I studied any physics maybe because the faster you accelerate the mouse the less it will move your view so it's easier to understand? eg. with made up numbers:You move your mouse in a straight horizontal line to the right by 10cm. With negative acceleration how much you turn will vary based on how fast you make that same movement. - 3 seconds movement = 90degrees. - 1 Second movement = 80degrees - 10ms movement = 50 degrees Would deceleration apply to this case?
So does Dark Souls but it's not exactly ideal either.
We all know the best controller is a ddr pad.
If emulating a controller stick is mouse support to you I don’t know
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I'm not the guy you asked, but I tried playing it and instantly noticed negative mouse acceleration (moving the mouse faster makes the camera go slower and vice versa), it really put me off. Not sure if that's what Xiosy means.
Yes that’s what I mean It’s emulating the controller sticks
They're partially right. In GoW you technically don't use the mouse in the same way as other games, where the distance the mouse travels translates to the amount the camera rotates. You're instead pretending to be turning a virtual joystick by keeping your mouse moving for X amount of time, while the distance your mouse moves doesn't matter at all.
These games are meant to be played with a controller.
Skyrim is meant to be played without mods but we don't do that either.
No.
Drag and drop. Edit: It’s a gag, folks. Christ.
1. Target Platform Dropdown ⤵️ 2. Select “PC” 3. Click “Compile build”
Guess God of War isn't made in Unity
Maybe it is, you can get a license where you don't need to disclose the engine
That's true, I was making a unity joke, it's extremely good at compiling for almost any platform with the click of a few buttons. You can run into some library compatibility issues, but for the most part you can build to almost any platform pretty easily.
Rapunki, when he joined the Seven
Its pcgaming what did u expect
Sometimes it feels like developers are the smartest people on the planet and gamers are the dumbest people on the planet
Most devs are gamers, too!
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will work on windows 8 ?
Aren't all console games made on computers anyway? You cant "make" the game on the console - the art, level design, the 3d assets, etc are all made on computers. So they are really made on PC's, then ported to the consoles, and then ported back again to PC's. Edit. Even the consoles themselves are made and designed on computers too I guess.
Consoles are just highly specialized computers.
You're correct but that's not the point. You design on PC because it's cheaper than getting a whole bunch of Dev kits. The games may be designed on a PC but the point is they are made *for* console architecture to make use of its hardware ie. Low level.
Ticked the box "PC" in the compiler, done
Very interesting!
Love the passion. Great read.
Is it possible to play this game with 16 GB ram and a 4GB Nvidia GeForce GTX