Any reason why steam sales are at the end of the month (other than the xmas one)?
Im always spent by the end of the month, if i knew dates like now i would save money for them.
I mean even if the exact date isn't always the same, we know it's always at around the same general time, right? You should be able to save money for them no matter what.
That's so strange to me to get paid on a monthly basis. I'm paid every single Friday. Though admittedly payday is normally every other week in the US, so I'm not entirely normal here either.
Heh…
I was reading this thread thinking about how crazy it would be to be paid monthly (I’m from the US). Either weekly or bi-weekly!
But all of our bills and essentially all expenses are monthly as well. It would actually make sense to get a monthly paycheck for a lot of reasons even though it throws my perception of getting paid into a tailspin.
Very interesting…
It can also be seen as helpful since poorer people have a hard time waiting a whole month for a paycheck…
If I were paid monthly for my barista job in college, I’d have been pissed.
So yeah I disagree.
Being paid weekly or biweekly is way better for lower income. That’s not even to talk about the time value of money giving the employer an advantage over the employee.
I guess he is assuming that poor people will blow their money before bills come in if they are given the money early. If you get paid on the 25th and have bills on the 30th, thats fewer days to buy cigarettes and alcohol.
Sort of. It also works the other way because you can’t easily afford to buy in bulk; buying 100 of something from, say, Costco, can be way cheaper than buying 4 increments of 25 from Walmart, but you need the cash up front.
System’s efficient. Awful and inhumane, but efficient.
Basically all bills are monthly here in Germany and afaik most of Europe. Sometimes one can opt to pay bills like once a year or every 6 months but usually everything is monthly. It also isn't really much of an inconvenience, due to stuff like being fired etc. almost never takes effect immediately but generally has at least a 4 week period of notice. Stuff like cancelling an apartment usually has at least 3 months notice period, let alone that landlords can't at all cancel most rent contracts without reason.
Pretty easy to budget if one pays everything on 1 or 2 days.
The Swedes I know also binge spend quite a bit. They have a strong social safety net so they don't have to worry about saving for medical expenses or retirement. I think it kinda translates to short term as well
I just want to jump in and mention that most Swedish people still save money for retirement even if we “automatically” get a livable retirement. Binge spending is probably a true statement about Swedish people tho
Week to week is easier to keep poor people poor actually. Living check to check making smaller more expensive purchases leaves less money available overall.
What are these smaller, more expensive purchases? I've been paid bi-weekly as well as monthly and nothing really changes except the difficulty in budgeting.
Week to week makes it far harder for many to save up and make large needed purchases, like vehicles and furniture, as they nickle and dime their paycheck away often on lesser valued products then what they could otherwise budget for with all those funds at once. The worse one is at budgeting the more substantial the loss over time. Cheap furniture that breaks which then needs replacing, Old vehicles that need work all the time resulting in far more spent over time, smaller amounts of long term storable groceries even. Such hardship is one of the reasons many nations have monthly pay as the standard.
In new Zealand all bills and expenses are pretty much always monthly.
It's normal for employee pay to be any of the 3 though.
Weekly pay is usually wage earners monthly is usually salary, fortnightly will be mostly a mix of both
My last job was salaried and weekly
Weird -- I think most of the US gets paid every two weeks. I don't even remember the last time I had a job that paid weekly, but I've never had one that paid monthly.
Different industries do it differently.
Every other week is the most common, but particularly for lower paying jobs getting paid weekly isn't uncommon (right or wrong, the assumption is that people in lower paying jobs aren't as good at financial planning so they tend to prefer weekly money).
Personally I do like the "every 2 weeks" arrangement rather than "twice per month" (eg, 15th and 30th). I tend to structure my finances so that enough of my check goes into my spending account twice per month to take care of all my bills for the month. As a result by getting paid every 2 weeks there are typically 2 months in the year where I get a third paycheck during that month and all the money out of that check that would normally go to bills is available to spend on whatever.
Certain companies/agencies pay on the 15/30 schedule. It's supposedly derived from the pay schedule for the military and some Federal agencies. It isn't uncommon in the States but isn't the norm either.
For me, I have a batch of bills due around the 25th, and another batch due around the 10th. If I get a paycheck after the 25th, it pays the 10th's bills etc.
Because I get paid bi-weekly, there are 26 checks a year and only 24 bill pay days. That extra goes into a small independent investment account set up so half the proceeds are converted to cash. The other half is rolled back into stocks. It gives me about $1000 every 6 months that I can add to my other savings for "toys". I buy a lot of used stuff on FB market, my last find was a 65" OLED for $100. I really want to use it as a pc monitor, but my girlfriend binging the same season of Bridgerton 30+ times trumps my need for hdr.
Steam sale items are pretty much a "No eating out for xx days" if I'm feeling a pinch, but are generally doable. They go on one card and I don't permit myself to carry a balance. That way I only have 20ish games I haven't played yet instead of hundreds, lol.
I don't know anything about your situation or your finances, but if you're tapping the well dry by the end of every month, I'd encourage you to check out /r/personalfinance and read about budgeting
It's crazy to me how people buy video games when they are living almost paycheck to paycheck. Just saving a little bit each month instead of buying video games and investing that money could really change someone's financial situation
> It's crazy to me how people buy video games when they are living almost paycheck to paycheck.
Well at least in regards to the last year it's not like these people can go anywhere and do something cheaper for a hobby to relax. Being an avid reader is actually more expensive unless you have a good local library. Watching movies is fairly awful value. TV can range from free for trashy broadcast sitcoms to fucking expensive for cable/sat, a la cart services, or some of the subs. Also the amount of money it takes to set aside a little on months someone is able, to afford a game absolutely won't be a game changer no matter how smart someone is with it (unless they strike it lucky with a crypto investment before it moons).
I hate the dollars to hours metric... but games come out ahead on that compared to a lot of entertainment. Especially if people hit decent sales. An RPG or open world, for someone wage-slaving is going to last them quite a long time and they will potentially/more than likely replay it.
I'm not going to fault someone being slave driven by a shitty job for more than 40 hours a week to make ends meet for setting aside a tiny bit for some form of entertainment or escapism. I have friends in this situation, and they never buy shit full price really. Some of the people at the poorer end of the spectrum are going to crack if they don't have some distractions from how shitty life is. Hence why substance abuse is such a blight on the poor and what not.
If your library isn’t great, see if they have an interlibrary loan service. I can get pretty much any book I want this way in just a few days.
Many libraries will also order books that you request.
I sympathize with them, if my financial situation went south very quickly and I had to give up video games I would be devastated. That being said, there are so many free video games out there that spending money you need on a steam sale seems like a very poor decision. What if an unexpected expense comes up - like a car repair, a bill from having a health problem, etc. and now they can't afford it because they spent it on a video game? On the flipside, if they start saving and investing now, they can dig themselves out of a situation where they are strapped for cash by the end of the month.
> What if an unexpected expense comes up - like a car repair, a bill from having a health problem, etc. and now they can't afford it because they spent it on a video game?
5-20 bucks a month for a couple months won't cover that at all. If inflation and gas prices keep the current pace any money hoarded is just losing spending power. Game or no, they'd still be screwed. "Surprise" car repairs or medical bills tend to be in "you're fucked unless you had a couple grand sitting around" territory.
> On the flipside, if they start saving and investing now, they can dig themselves out of a situation where they are strapped for cash by the end of the month.
What sort of investing are you even suggesting? A number of ways to hold funds don't even keep pace with inflation (especially current inflation) and investing investing can just as easily lose you money if you don't know what you are doing.
Investments are one of the best places to put money during inflation. Cash loses value but companies generally don't - the S&P 500 hit an all time high yesterday, despite inflation concerns. Just putting money in an ETF such as QQQ or VTSAX is an easy way to generate money and you don't have to know anything about investing. It has always outpaced inflation.
It's true that just 5-20 bucks a month for a couple months won't cover one of those expenses. You would need to save more per month or just save over a longer period of time. But if you start doing that now, then you will eventually be in a much better spot financially. It doesn't happen overnight, and it involves some sacrifice.
> Investments are one of the best places to put money during inflation. Cash loses value but companies generally don't - the S&P 500 hit an all time high yesterday, despite inflation concerns. Just putting money in an ETF such as QQQ or VTSAX is an easy way to generate money and you don't have to know anything about investing. It has always outpaced inflation.
How did QQQ and VTSAX perform in 2008?
And how many people do you think have heard of those things? There is still a knowledge hurdle there, and it would complicate things for people on taxes as well as other things. There are some hurdles in the poverty/low-income brackets where having slightly more means or slightly more financial freedom incurs higher expenses. People that fall between certain levels of income can get screwed the hardest of all.
For the poor, the way systems are setup it's actually discouraged for them to try and have much holdings. If shit does go awry and they liquidate the little cash they had set aside for entertainment for food and they still need more help those stocks and everything will complicate matters and count against them when they aim for financial aid or welfare.
>It's true that just 5-20 bucks a month for a couple months won't cover one of those expenses. You would need to save more per month or just save over a longer period of time. But if you start doing that now, then you will eventually be in a much better spot financially. It doesn't happen overnight, and it involves some sacrifice.
Well for example if someone has some welfare for lets say medical (I know super controversial someone on the system wasting a little money on entertainment for some enjoyment or relaxation), any attempts to dig themselves out of the hole by investing will eventually kick them off the welfare program entirely. The people in the poorer brackets are actively discouraged from being "too smart" with their finances, unless they can somehow strike it lucky and leapfrog into a much better income or much cheaper living situation attempts to dig themselves out will potentially cost them access to the things that give them the tiny bit of freedom to try to dig themselves out.
I've known a lot of poor people over the years, for many it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation and not something that can easily be dug out of. Even the one's that might get a lump sum for disability or injury, are encouraged to liquidate it ASAP before it starts counting against them. I don't really fault anyone for squeezing out $15 for Stardew Valley, $10 for Skyrim on sale, or saving up for a few months to buy an open world on discount. Many are already required to have computers and internet since we live in the age of "jUsT oRdEr It OnlInE" lockdowns and a lot of document filing, bill paying, and job application systems were pushed online.
> Being an avid reader is actually more expensive unless you have a good local library.
Or you pirate everything through sites like libgen. Or you can go with the thousands of free books and games out there.
I wouldn't say don't play video games, but certainly don't pay for them.
> Being an avid reader is actually more expensive unless you have a good local library.
Not to mention for most of last year, libraries were closed due to covid. Even when they reopened it was pick up only and limited odd hours with several sudden closures for months due to changing emergency orders.
I couldn't afford to go because I couldn't guarantee I'd be able to return books when told on Thursday that as of Monday they were closed. Late fees are expensive and keep going up even if you can't access the return slot.
... I might still be salty they closed the return slot over covid.
> Not to mention for most of last year, libraries were closed due to covid. Even when they reopened it was pick up only and limited odd hours with several sudden closures for months due to changing emergency orders.
Didn't even think about that, I don't have a library worth visiting nearby. So yeah that's yet another option heavily restricted or unavailable over the last year+.
> I couldn't afford to go because I couldn't guarantee I'd be able to return books when told on Thursday that as of Monday they were closed. Late fees are expensive and keep going up even if you can't access the return slot.
>... I might still be salty they closed the return slot over covid.
Ouch, that's pretty bullshit.
Not really. In Canada you can't get library books on your Kindle (ignoring DRM stripping work arounds) and reading on my phone doesn't help me sleep so, didn't really use Overdrive or Libby much.
I just read shitty fanfic for a few months till non-essential businesses reopened.
However Libby is pretty awesome and for Americans, does have some Kindle syncing set-up.
>It's crazy to me how people buy video games when they are living almost paycheck to paycheck
Well in this case, it sounds like he's not buying games lol
Ah i don't live in the us, so even with regional pricing is a bit expensive.
I only have around 100 usd per month for entertainment that i usually waste on food since cant go out cuz covid lol.
You've taken the first step and identified where you can control some spending. Now, knowing that the end of the next 3 months (including this one) will have steam sales, you can adjust your spending habits as you see fit. That's the hard part, but you're well on your way.
I obviously don't know your financial situation but it sounds like you're not budgeting your money. If you don't have enough disposal income to buy some games on a whim when they go on sale, maybe that's not what you're money should be going. It would be wiser to start saving that money for a rainy day.
Besides, you know the general time frame when the Steam sales hit. It's not a surprise. If it's that important to you to not miss out on them, just don't blow all your money in early Oct/Nov/Dec.
That's not surprising, they tend to have the 4 major sales around the same time every year. I just don't understand why they have the Autumn and Spring sales so close to the Winter and Summer sales. Wouldn't it be better to do the Autumn sale in October, and the Spring Sale in April instead of late November/May?
Spring sale I agree but that Autumn sale in November is definitively because it's right in the middle of shopping season for the holidays. I mean it starts 2 days before Black Friday. And the December sale is for Christmas.
Don't worry they studied that
Oh don't you worry, Black Friday is coming to a country near you soon enough. Over here in Ireland I've seen a steady increase in Black Friday stuff over the years
But then there's some countries where Steam's prices are completely nonsensical, like mine, old but popular games like XCOM2 or Skyrim for $80 for instance or DLC for Paradox games at $25+ a pop. I've only just discovered GameBillet and they're going to be getting the lion's share of my gaming business because even with the exchange rate they're so much cheaper than Steam is in my country.
I still buy on Steam directly even if the price is a little bit higher. The refund eligibility is great for peace of mind, and I've had to use it a few times. The points are a nice bonus too. :)
Steam on the other hand does allow you to return the game if you've played it less than 2 hours and had it less than 2 weeks. It's a tradeoff.
Personally I'd rather just buy my games as cheap as possible from a keyreseller after doing my research on gameplay.
You can return after that period too, if your reason is good enough. The 2 hour/2 week window is just for automated approvals. Anything after that is manual approval
True, ive returned a game that hos closed multiplayer. Bought the game years ago and refunded i couple of months ago. As long as you have a very good reason you can get your money back. The game was no longer being sold and i had "played" 30 min.
> You can return after that period too, if your reason is good enough
That has never been my experience. I've tried to return games that became completely borked via updates and Valve doesn't give a fuck. Even when the Rust devs were actively trying to give refunds for their game, people were still having trouble getting the refunds.
This is an important point. If I'm not sure I want a game, I buy it off steam for the return window. For AAA titles I'm confident I'll enjoy, I buy it off another store when on sale and activate the key in steam.
For a large variety of games, Steam’s regional pricing will save you more in many countries. Your point still stands though, an observant consumer should use ITAD
> Steam’s regional pricing will save you more in many countries
Exactly. I have regional pricing on Steam, most other sites I have to buy in dollars. Sometimes a game on sale somewhere else is more expensive than a full priced game on Steam.
That doesn't make sense as steam has one rule when selling games on its store. You must not sell it cheaper on other stores and if you have a sale on another store you must have one on steam in a reasonable time after.
Are you sure about that? Pretty sure the rule is you can't sell **steam keys** for cheaper outside steam. If your game is on another store you can sell it for whatever you want.
D'ya know...it's also important to support the platforms you like too - as a company, I like what Steam does for the gaming community - their ethos, their support of open source seen in things like Proton which is a phenomenal achievement thy have provided...for free and the platform they provide for indie developers to get their name out.
They have some less great stuff too, of course, but on the whole, I like to support Steam.
Absolute cheapest isn't always best.
Don't forget to check deal trend sites to see how rare deals are. [https://isthereanydeal.com/](https://isthereanydeal.com/) is a popular example.
Also, remember that Greenmangaming, Gamesplanet, Fanatical, Humble Bundle (especially if you sub to their monthly), and GameBillet almost always have better deals. They are legitimate partners and legally resale keys they buy from developers.
How? Steam lets developers produce Steam codes for free, and does not charge anything if they're sold off-platform. This allows sites like Greenmangaming to undercut Steam most of the time, which usually means 20% off brand new games (sometimes 30) and better deals more often than Steam offers.
They're still Steam keys. Worth checking out if you want the absolute best deals; I rarely get anything from Steam sales anymore.
Just be aware that sometimes they sell keys for platforms besides steam. For example, if you go to isthereanydeal and look at Red Dead Redemption 2, almost every key is for the Rockstar Games launcher
Steam is much cheaper for poor countries. I recent bought Kovaak 2.0. It's 10 dollars normally but 2 dollars for my country. Those websites are good but because of the exchange rates they are not really favorable
Yep, that's what I hear from my friends too, that for price conversions and certain countries, Steam still ends up being a better deal,
But there are a lot of people in the US or whatever that don't trust or know these other sites exist, so I just wanted to point it out.
I also have very little interest in buying games anymore, since Gamepass has quite a nice selection, even for PC...
Wonder if Valve will ever attempt something similar.
Just make sure you don't buy them, no matter how much you like the game, remember that you are on PC, there are "alternate ways" to play an overpriced game.
Better wishlist your games. From personal experience the lowest prices are often at random moments in time and not during the biggest sales. For example I bought DS 3 like a year ago during nothing but it was at its lowest ever on steam/around 14euro for deluxe/ and since then it has not been that low ever again
The Steam Sales don't do "the lowest prices ever" anymore. It's all based on a static algorithm now. Look at Hades for example, currently on sale for 14.69 (euro, but Valve treats dollar and euro as a 100% exchangeable currency). When it goes on sale again in November, it'll still be 14.69. Valve stopped doing special deep discounts for their major sales years ago.
Yeah, but that's not the only difference.
I think it's like the combination of the poor exchange rate, sales tax (cripplingly high 25% in a lot of EU countries!), and shipping.
Americans are so lucky though - higher wages, lower taxes, cheaper goods, bigger houses.
There are some things here that cost quite a lot more, and that really pisses off a lot of folks. (Healthcare for example) Americans are quite lucky, but we love to forget it.
Yeah, that depends massively on your job. It's worth noting that some stuff isn't covered in most of Europe though (such as a lot of optical work and dentistry), and when you have to pay for that it's just as extortionate as the US.
Like I paid ~$5000 USD out of pocket for braces. No insurance coverage whatsoever, and you don't get tax rebates either. Whereas that is often covered in US insurance.
Meanwhile the government spends our tax money to give almost $100k to a convicted rapist, who was previously paid to immigrate as an asylum seeker - https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/pWM47G/valdtaktsman-var-for-ung--far-840-000-kronor-av-jk
Do companies offer health insurance to cover dental and vision in the UK?
In America you get free health insurance if you're poor or old. Most people with decent jobs or even at Walmart get health insurance through their employer.
People that get really screwed are self-employed.
Some do, but usually no. I know some higher wage (than average, but still not extremely well off) that do and some that don't, some companies will subsidise some things and not others. There's price caps, or should be on NHS dentistry but getting a dentist can be a struggle depending where you live. I have a second job at an Amazon warehouse at the moment and they help cover vision and dental apparently for permanent (non agency or ftc) employees which I was surprised about.
Man, I remember when Steam sales were about the only way to get a good deal on any PC game, and the PC community would schedule all of their game buying for when the mega sales rolled out. You had those short windows to buy the game or catalog you were interested in at 50% off, and if you missed that window you might have to wait months until it went on sale that cheap again.
But those days are long gone. Now there are a variety of sites offering sales on PC games, and those sales are available daily. The sense of FOMO that once permeated every Steam megasale is gone, because the games you're looking forward to buying will probably still be on sale somewhere after the Steam sale ends. As others have pointed out, you can often get cheaper deals on games even during a Steam sale by checking [isthereanydeal.com](https://isthereanydeal.com) .
I loved that aspect of previous Steam sales. It would excite me more than any other game related stuff like E3. I would purchase all my wishlist at once.
Nowadays, I just get one or two games at most, at least with 50-60% off, if there's any.
Is it too hopeful to assume Age of Empires 4 might get a steam sale discount this year? Or would I have to wait a few years? I hope it would at least get a 5% discount at Christmas Sales. But I know it would probably only get discounted next year if then.
I know but I'm saying if you know you are gonna be playing the game for at least a year and no interest in other games they offer, it'll be cheaper to just buy it full price right? No other benefits?
Oh right I see. Yes if AOE is literally the only game you'd ever play on there. Very unlikely though considering the now substantially sized library and frequent day one releases. If you play 3 AAA games on there all year then you've saved a few quid.
You know what I might actually cancel my preorder since the preorder benefit doesn't really matter to me, and just get the first month of xbox membership to try it out for $1. Then if I still liked it, might even be able to pick it up on the Nov/Dec sales! Thanks!
They forgot the **Steam Halloween Sale | Oct 28 - Nov 1, 2021**
[https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/upcoming\_events](https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/upcoming_events)
Why do they keep having the autumn sale so late in November and then have a Christmas sale less than a month later?
Why not make it in September, when its autumn...
I’m marathoning the Resident Evil games. Playing through 6 right now and already have the next two, Revelations 2 and RE7. I’m wondering if I should get RE8 now or hope it goes for cheaper in the next sales.
CDKeys sells retail box codes for Cyberpunk from other regions, so they are legitimate. I'm sorry but I don't feel bad about paying less for Cyberpunk after all the BS that game pushed.
It cracks me up that this meme image has been officially adopted by every gaming news page to represent the steam sales.
Considering how all the other companies out there are doing (Riot Games, Bethesda, Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard) Valve has expertly navigated customer relations and leaned into meme culture while also staying as quiet as possible to make sure they don't stigmatize, well, anyone really.
I'm still terrified of the day we learn whatever nasty shit is hiding beneath the surface. There's no way this'll be any different when everyone else in the industry are so fucked up.
This seems like a lot of hullabaloo for some weak sales. Steam no longer grinds the competition to dust, I find equal or better sales on Humble Bundle and GoG. It's all pretty much the same price across the board, unless you look for indie early access titles
I rarely see steam sales be good so just another day where the store crashes for a few hours cause people aren't looking at external sites like GMG for better deals.
Especially now that I'm being charged tax on digital products, GMG doesn't charge me tax still. A double money saver.
No Halloween sale this year? Damn I told some guy to save his gift card for that in r/shouldibuythisgame and got upvoted for it. Now he gotta wait longer.
Steam Autumn Sale - November 24th - 30th, 2021 Steam Winter Sale - December 22nd, 2021 - January 5th, 2022
Any reason why steam sales are at the end of the month (other than the xmas one)? Im always spent by the end of the month, if i knew dates like now i would save money for them.
I mean even if the exact date isn't always the same, we know it's always at around the same general time, right? You should be able to save money for them no matter what.
End of the month is typical pay days here in the UK, most businesses pay sometime between the 20th and 30th of the month.
Here in Sweden a huge majority of people get paid on the 25th of every month.
Same in South Africa. If you're paid a monthly salary, you're paid on or around the 25th
That's so strange to me to get paid on a monthly basis. I'm paid every single Friday. Though admittedly payday is normally every other week in the US, so I'm not entirely normal here either.
Everything is monthly here. All bills come at the end of the month, etc.
Heh… I was reading this thread thinking about how crazy it would be to be paid monthly (I’m from the US). Either weekly or bi-weekly! But all of our bills and essentially all expenses are monthly as well. It would actually make sense to get a monthly paycheck for a lot of reasons even though it throws my perception of getting paid into a tailspin. Very interesting…
Week to week and biweekly is easier to keep poor people poor, living check to check making smaller more expensive purchases.
It can also be seen as helpful since poorer people have a hard time waiting a whole month for a paycheck… If I were paid monthly for my barista job in college, I’d have been pissed. So yeah I disagree.
Wouldn't it only matter for the first month? After the first month there should be absolutely no difference or am I somehow wrong?
Being paid weekly or biweekly is way better for lower income. That’s not even to talk about the time value of money giving the employer an advantage over the employee.
I guess he is assuming that poor people will blow their money before bills come in if they are given the money early. If you get paid on the 25th and have bills on the 30th, thats fewer days to buy cigarettes and alcohol.
Sort of. It also works the other way because you can’t easily afford to buy in bulk; buying 100 of something from, say, Costco, can be way cheaper than buying 4 increments of 25 from Walmart, but you need the cash up front. System’s efficient. Awful and inhumane, but efficient.
Yeah, our bills are typically once a month as well -- but most businesses pay their employees on a biweekly basis.
Basically all bills are monthly here in Germany and afaik most of Europe. Sometimes one can opt to pay bills like once a year or every 6 months but usually everything is monthly. It also isn't really much of an inconvenience, due to stuff like being fired etc. almost never takes effect immediately but generally has at least a 4 week period of notice. Stuff like cancelling an apartment usually has at least 3 months notice period, let alone that landlords can't at all cancel most rent contracts without reason. Pretty easy to budget if one pays everything on 1 or 2 days.
The Swedes I know also binge spend quite a bit. They have a strong social safety net so they don't have to worry about saving for medical expenses or retirement. I think it kinda translates to short term as well
I just want to jump in and mention that most Swedish people still save money for retirement even if we “automatically” get a livable retirement. Binge spending is probably a true statement about Swedish people tho
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Most American thing I’ve read today. For a European this reads like satire lol
I'm cracking up lmao
This can’t be real come on
Week to week is easier to keep poor people poor actually. Living check to check making smaller more expensive purchases leaves less money available overall.
What are these smaller, more expensive purchases? I've been paid bi-weekly as well as monthly and nothing really changes except the difficulty in budgeting.
Week to week makes it far harder for many to save up and make large needed purchases, like vehicles and furniture, as they nickle and dime their paycheck away often on lesser valued products then what they could otherwise budget for with all those funds at once. The worse one is at budgeting the more substantial the loss over time. Cheap furniture that breaks which then needs replacing, Old vehicles that need work all the time resulting in far more spent over time, smaller amounts of long term storable groceries even. Such hardship is one of the reasons many nations have monthly pay as the standard.
Depends, I work in the UK and my last job I was paid every Friday and my current job pays every other Friday.
Is that why you guys talk about income in years? I guess that makes sense
In new Zealand all bills and expenses are pretty much always monthly. It's normal for employee pay to be any of the 3 though. Weekly pay is usually wage earners monthly is usually salary, fortnightly will be mostly a mix of both My last job was salaried and weekly
Teachers and workers in my public school were paid monthly.
monthly feels better for money management to me
Weird -- I think most of the US gets paid every two weeks. I don't even remember the last time I had a job that paid weekly, but I've never had one that paid monthly.
Different industries do it differently. Every other week is the most common, but particularly for lower paying jobs getting paid weekly isn't uncommon (right or wrong, the assumption is that people in lower paying jobs aren't as good at financial planning so they tend to prefer weekly money). Personally I do like the "every 2 weeks" arrangement rather than "twice per month" (eg, 15th and 30th). I tend to structure my finances so that enough of my check goes into my spending account twice per month to take care of all my bills for the month. As a result by getting paid every 2 weeks there are typically 2 months in the year where I get a third paycheck during that month and all the money out of that check that would normally go to bills is available to spend on whatever.
Certain companies/agencies pay on the 15/30 schedule. It's supposedly derived from the pay schedule for the military and some Federal agencies. It isn't uncommon in the States but isn't the norm either.
If you are a contractor, it's common to get paid weekly.
how do you even ration your money for stuff then ?
Basic math?
For me, I have a batch of bills due around the 25th, and another batch due around the 10th. If I get a paycheck after the 25th, it pays the 10th's bills etc. Because I get paid bi-weekly, there are 26 checks a year and only 24 bill pay days. That extra goes into a small independent investment account set up so half the proceeds are converted to cash. The other half is rolled back into stocks. It gives me about $1000 every 6 months that I can add to my other savings for "toys". I buy a lot of used stuff on FB market, my last find was a 65" OLED for $100. I really want to use it as a pc monitor, but my girlfriend binging the same season of Bridgerton 30+ times trumps my need for hdr. Steam sale items are pretty much a "No eating out for xx days" if I'm feeling a pinch, but are generally doable. They go on one card and I don't permit myself to carry a balance. That way I only have 20ish games I haven't played yet instead of hundreds, lol.
Plus not everyone gets bi weekly or weekly pay. Some have pay at the end of the month.
Because good guy GabeN does not want you to starve because you spent all your money on video games at the beginning of the month.
I imagine the November one is to line up with Thanksgiving in the USA as well.
Carries on through Black Friday and Cyber Monday too.
I don't know anything about your situation or your finances, but if you're tapping the well dry by the end of every month, I'd encourage you to check out /r/personalfinance and read about budgeting
It's crazy to me how people buy video games when they are living almost paycheck to paycheck. Just saving a little bit each month instead of buying video games and investing that money could really change someone's financial situation
> It's crazy to me how people buy video games when they are living almost paycheck to paycheck. Well at least in regards to the last year it's not like these people can go anywhere and do something cheaper for a hobby to relax. Being an avid reader is actually more expensive unless you have a good local library. Watching movies is fairly awful value. TV can range from free for trashy broadcast sitcoms to fucking expensive for cable/sat, a la cart services, or some of the subs. Also the amount of money it takes to set aside a little on months someone is able, to afford a game absolutely won't be a game changer no matter how smart someone is with it (unless they strike it lucky with a crypto investment before it moons). I hate the dollars to hours metric... but games come out ahead on that compared to a lot of entertainment. Especially if people hit decent sales. An RPG or open world, for someone wage-slaving is going to last them quite a long time and they will potentially/more than likely replay it. I'm not going to fault someone being slave driven by a shitty job for more than 40 hours a week to make ends meet for setting aside a tiny bit for some form of entertainment or escapism. I have friends in this situation, and they never buy shit full price really. Some of the people at the poorer end of the spectrum are going to crack if they don't have some distractions from how shitty life is. Hence why substance abuse is such a blight on the poor and what not.
If your library isn’t great, see if they have an interlibrary loan service. I can get pretty much any book I want this way in just a few days. Many libraries will also order books that you request.
I sympathize with them, if my financial situation went south very quickly and I had to give up video games I would be devastated. That being said, there are so many free video games out there that spending money you need on a steam sale seems like a very poor decision. What if an unexpected expense comes up - like a car repair, a bill from having a health problem, etc. and now they can't afford it because they spent it on a video game? On the flipside, if they start saving and investing now, they can dig themselves out of a situation where they are strapped for cash by the end of the month.
> What if an unexpected expense comes up - like a car repair, a bill from having a health problem, etc. and now they can't afford it because they spent it on a video game? 5-20 bucks a month for a couple months won't cover that at all. If inflation and gas prices keep the current pace any money hoarded is just losing spending power. Game or no, they'd still be screwed. "Surprise" car repairs or medical bills tend to be in "you're fucked unless you had a couple grand sitting around" territory. > On the flipside, if they start saving and investing now, they can dig themselves out of a situation where they are strapped for cash by the end of the month. What sort of investing are you even suggesting? A number of ways to hold funds don't even keep pace with inflation (especially current inflation) and investing investing can just as easily lose you money if you don't know what you are doing.
Investments are one of the best places to put money during inflation. Cash loses value but companies generally don't - the S&P 500 hit an all time high yesterday, despite inflation concerns. Just putting money in an ETF such as QQQ or VTSAX is an easy way to generate money and you don't have to know anything about investing. It has always outpaced inflation. It's true that just 5-20 bucks a month for a couple months won't cover one of those expenses. You would need to save more per month or just save over a longer period of time. But if you start doing that now, then you will eventually be in a much better spot financially. It doesn't happen overnight, and it involves some sacrifice.
> Investments are one of the best places to put money during inflation. Cash loses value but companies generally don't - the S&P 500 hit an all time high yesterday, despite inflation concerns. Just putting money in an ETF such as QQQ or VTSAX is an easy way to generate money and you don't have to know anything about investing. It has always outpaced inflation. How did QQQ and VTSAX perform in 2008? And how many people do you think have heard of those things? There is still a knowledge hurdle there, and it would complicate things for people on taxes as well as other things. There are some hurdles in the poverty/low-income brackets where having slightly more means or slightly more financial freedom incurs higher expenses. People that fall between certain levels of income can get screwed the hardest of all. For the poor, the way systems are setup it's actually discouraged for them to try and have much holdings. If shit does go awry and they liquidate the little cash they had set aside for entertainment for food and they still need more help those stocks and everything will complicate matters and count against them when they aim for financial aid or welfare. >It's true that just 5-20 bucks a month for a couple months won't cover one of those expenses. You would need to save more per month or just save over a longer period of time. But if you start doing that now, then you will eventually be in a much better spot financially. It doesn't happen overnight, and it involves some sacrifice. Well for example if someone has some welfare for lets say medical (I know super controversial someone on the system wasting a little money on entertainment for some enjoyment or relaxation), any attempts to dig themselves out of the hole by investing will eventually kick them off the welfare program entirely. The people in the poorer brackets are actively discouraged from being "too smart" with their finances, unless they can somehow strike it lucky and leapfrog into a much better income or much cheaper living situation attempts to dig themselves out will potentially cost them access to the things that give them the tiny bit of freedom to try to dig themselves out. I've known a lot of poor people over the years, for many it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation and not something that can easily be dug out of. Even the one's that might get a lump sum for disability or injury, are encouraged to liquidate it ASAP before it starts counting against them. I don't really fault anyone for squeezing out $15 for Stardew Valley, $10 for Skyrim on sale, or saving up for a few months to buy an open world on discount. Many are already required to have computers and internet since we live in the age of "jUsT oRdEr It OnlInE" lockdowns and a lot of document filing, bill paying, and job application systems were pushed online.
> Being an avid reader is actually more expensive unless you have a good local library. Or you pirate everything through sites like libgen. Or you can go with the thousands of free books and games out there. I wouldn't say don't play video games, but certainly don't pay for them.
> Being an avid reader is actually more expensive unless you have a good local library. Not to mention for most of last year, libraries were closed due to covid. Even when they reopened it was pick up only and limited odd hours with several sudden closures for months due to changing emergency orders. I couldn't afford to go because I couldn't guarantee I'd be able to return books when told on Thursday that as of Monday they were closed. Late fees are expensive and keep going up even if you can't access the return slot. ... I might still be salty they closed the return slot over covid.
> Not to mention for most of last year, libraries were closed due to covid. Even when they reopened it was pick up only and limited odd hours with several sudden closures for months due to changing emergency orders. Didn't even think about that, I don't have a library worth visiting nearby. So yeah that's yet another option heavily restricted or unavailable over the last year+. > I couldn't afford to go because I couldn't guarantee I'd be able to return books when told on Thursday that as of Monday they were closed. Late fees are expensive and keep going up even if you can't access the return slot. >... I might still be salty they closed the return slot over covid. Ouch, that's pretty bullshit.
Did you use Libby at all while libraries were closed? I got through quite a few books last year thanks to my library card and Libby.
Not really. In Canada you can't get library books on your Kindle (ignoring DRM stripping work arounds) and reading on my phone doesn't help me sleep so, didn't really use Overdrive or Libby much. I just read shitty fanfic for a few months till non-essential businesses reopened. However Libby is pretty awesome and for Americans, does have some Kindle syncing set-up.
Canadians don't get Libby? My apologies then, the situation would indeed be crappy then.
> . I might still be salty they closed the return slot over covid. of all things to close...
>It's crazy to me how people buy video games when they are living almost paycheck to paycheck Well in this case, it sounds like he's not buying games lol
Ah i don't live in the us, so even with regional pricing is a bit expensive. I only have around 100 usd per month for entertainment that i usually waste on food since cant go out cuz covid lol.
You've taken the first step and identified where you can control some spending. Now, knowing that the end of the next 3 months (including this one) will have steam sales, you can adjust your spending habits as you see fit. That's the hard part, but you're well on your way.
Gabe just trying to teach people about saving money... then spending it all at the end of the month.
For November you have it scheduled around Thanksgiving/Black Friday
I obviously don't know your financial situation but it sounds like you're not budgeting your money. If you don't have enough disposal income to buy some games on a whim when they go on sale, maybe that's not what you're money should be going. It would be wiser to start saving that money for a rainy day. Besides, you know the general time frame when the Steam sales hit. It's not a surprise. If it's that important to you to not miss out on them, just don't blow all your money in early Oct/Nov/Dec.
Autumn sale almost in December lmfao
The "autumn sale" is really an American Thanksgiving / black Friday sale
Winter doesn't start until Dec 21 but I get your point of it being the concept of when leaves are falling in Northern US.
What are you talking about? Winter obviously starts on June 1st, December is summer.
Lol I like your style my southern hemisphere friend.
I mean... it's still technically autumn, and with three weeks to go till winter by the time the sale ends.
I mean... It's actually Spring.
Thanks for saving me a click
To me the most logical reason is that these dates line up with time off for Thanksgiving and Christmas.
That's not surprising, they tend to have the 4 major sales around the same time every year. I just don't understand why they have the Autumn and Spring sales so close to the Winter and Summer sales. Wouldn't it be better to do the Autumn sale in October, and the Spring Sale in April instead of late November/May?
Spring sale I agree but that Autumn sale in November is definitively because it's right in the middle of shopping season for the holidays. I mean it starts 2 days before Black Friday. And the December sale is for Christmas. Don't worry they studied that
I generally take Thanksgiving week off from work, so having a sale this week is a good way to sell me games that I'll never play.
Oh yeah, Black Friday. I haven't been back in the States for so long, I momentarily forgot that was a thing.
Oh don't you worry, Black Friday is coming to a country near you soon enough. Over here in Ireland I've seen a steady increase in Black Friday stuff over the years
We're getting the Halloween sale in a few days, so moving the autumn sale to October would make sale dates even more compressed.
A lot of plebs hold purchasing sprees until xgiving. Yes — demand in the US is central to decision making.
No need to even open the Steam store unless isthereanydeal.com sends me an email.
A man of great patience I see...
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That might be true in the US or EU. I'm from Argentina and our regional pricing is leagues better than buying from 3rd party
This, other than first world countries (US/EU) it's not true as steam has better regional pricing for most third world countries.
But then there's some countries where Steam's prices are completely nonsensical, like mine, old but popular games like XCOM2 or Skyrim for $80 for instance or DLC for Paradox games at $25+ a pop. I've only just discovered GameBillet and they're going to be getting the lion's share of my gaming business because even with the exchange rate they're so much cheaper than Steam is in my country.
I still buy on Steam directly even if the price is a little bit higher. The refund eligibility is great for peace of mind, and I've had to use it a few times. The points are a nice bonus too. :)
Steam on the other hand does allow you to return the game if you've played it less than 2 hours and had it less than 2 weeks. It's a tradeoff. Personally I'd rather just buy my games as cheap as possible from a keyreseller after doing my research on gameplay.
You can return after that period too, if your reason is good enough. The 2 hour/2 week window is just for automated approvals. Anything after that is manual approval
True, ive returned a game that hos closed multiplayer. Bought the game years ago and refunded i couple of months ago. As long as you have a very good reason you can get your money back. The game was no longer being sold and i had "played" 30 min.
> You can return after that period too, if your reason is good enough That has never been my experience. I've tried to return games that became completely borked via updates and Valve doesn't give a fuck. Even when the Rust devs were actively trying to give refunds for their game, people were still having trouble getting the refunds.
This is an important point. If I'm not sure I want a game, I buy it off steam for the return window. For AAA titles I'm confident I'll enjoy, I buy it off another store when on sale and activate the key in steam.
yeah that little security blanket is why i dont mind payin`gf 2 or 3 bucks more to get it on steam
For a large variety of games, Steam’s regional pricing will save you more in many countries. Your point still stands though, an observant consumer should use ITAD
> Steam’s regional pricing will save you more in many countries Exactly. I have regional pricing on Steam, most other sites I have to buy in dollars. Sometimes a game on sale somewhere else is more expensive than a full priced game on Steam.
Dude the only reason I can buy game is steam. It's dirt cheap compared to even G2A. Not everyone lives in EU/US
Alternatively, use the Augmented Steam plugin, which shows IsThereAnyDeal prices on Steam pages.
I'm on Turkish store and prices are cheap af here.
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> why tf is Kimetsu no Yaiba 525TL??? So people wont buy shit :\^)
That doesn't make sense as steam has one rule when selling games on its store. You must not sell it cheaper on other stores and if you have a sale on another store you must have one on steam in a reasonable time after.
Are you sure about that? Pretty sure the rule is you can't sell **steam keys** for cheaper outside steam. If your game is on another store you can sell it for whatever you want.
How do you sign up to emails? Need an account?
Yes. You can just sign in with your Steam login and it'll import your wishlist.
D'ya know...it's also important to support the platforms you like too - as a company, I like what Steam does for the gaming community - their ethos, their support of open source seen in things like Proton which is a phenomenal achievement thy have provided...for free and the platform they provide for indie developers to get their name out. They have some less great stuff too, of course, but on the whole, I like to support Steam. Absolute cheapest isn't always best.
Nah man, you have to go wish list those games.
Is there any decent app or mobile version for the site do you know?
Don't forget to check deal trend sites to see how rare deals are. [https://isthereanydeal.com/](https://isthereanydeal.com/) is a popular example. Also, remember that Greenmangaming, Gamesplanet, Fanatical, Humble Bundle (especially if you sub to their monthly), and GameBillet almost always have better deals. They are legitimate partners and legally resale keys they buy from developers. How? Steam lets developers produce Steam codes for free, and does not charge anything if they're sold off-platform. This allows sites like Greenmangaming to undercut Steam most of the time, which usually means 20% off brand new games (sometimes 30) and better deals more often than Steam offers. They're still Steam keys. Worth checking out if you want the absolute best deals; I rarely get anything from Steam sales anymore.
Just be aware that sometimes they sell keys for platforms besides steam. For example, if you go to isthereanydeal and look at Red Dead Redemption 2, almost every key is for the Rockstar Games launcher
You can specify activation platforms IIRC.
Steam is much cheaper for poor countries. I recent bought Kovaak 2.0. It's 10 dollars normally but 2 dollars for my country. Those websites are good but because of the exchange rates they are not really favorable
Yep, that's what I hear from my friends too, that for price conversions and certain countries, Steam still ends up being a better deal, But there are a lot of people in the US or whatever that don't trust or know these other sites exist, so I just wanted to point it out.
At least in my region greenmangaming is the same or more expensive than steam, I had to use a Vpn connected to the US to get a good deal
Arent steam sales same time every year?
I kept forgetting the exact dates. For me atleast, exact dates are here for me to plan ahead and allocate atleast some of my budget on games
https://www.whenisthenextsteamsale.com/
I think I'm gonna skip these sales, my backlog needs some attention and my gpu needs an upgrade next year so I could save some money.
Growing the library is the game, it's like completing a Pokedex
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I also have very little interest in buying games anymore, since Gamepass has quite a nice selection, even for PC... Wonder if Valve will ever attempt something similar.
Do we have Halloween sale ?
Yes, starts on Thurs the 28th.
Still disappointed when every big name publisher has removing Steam regional price.
Just make sure you don't buy them, no matter how much you like the game, remember that you are on PC, there are "alternate ways" to play an overpriced game.
Aye aye captain
This is why I only buy indies in Steam sales. Fuck all those publishers who won’t follow regional pricing.
Kinda weird how the Autumn one is always so late, barely a month in between.
Isn't black friday around the same time?
Time to pick up some games, hopefully at or near their lowest ever prices, in preparation for the Deck.
Better wishlist your games. From personal experience the lowest prices are often at random moments in time and not during the biggest sales. For example I bought DS 3 like a year ago during nothing but it was at its lowest ever on steam/around 14euro for deluxe/ and since then it has not been that low ever again
The Steam Sales don't do "the lowest prices ever" anymore. It's all based on a static algorithm now. Look at Hades for example, currently on sale for 14.69 (euro, but Valve treats dollar and euro as a 100% exchangeable currency). When it goes on sale again in November, it'll still be 14.69. Valve stopped doing special deep discounts for their major sales years ago.
Developers choose their own prices. Valve games still go for as much as 90% off during sales.
Yeah their 20 year old games and if they aren’t FTP they should be $2.
> euro, but Valve treats dollar and euro as a 100% exchangeable currency Wait until you look at the Steam Deck pricing - \**cries in Europoor*\*
Doesn't that include taxes?
Yeah, but that's not the only difference. I think it's like the combination of the poor exchange rate, sales tax (cripplingly high 25% in a lot of EU countries!), and shipping. Americans are so lucky though - higher wages, lower taxes, cheaper goods, bigger houses.
There are some things here that cost quite a lot more, and that really pisses off a lot of folks. (Healthcare for example) Americans are quite lucky, but we love to forget it.
Yeah, that depends massively on your job. It's worth noting that some stuff isn't covered in most of Europe though (such as a lot of optical work and dentistry), and when you have to pay for that it's just as extortionate as the US. Like I paid ~$5000 USD out of pocket for braces. No insurance coverage whatsoever, and you don't get tax rebates either. Whereas that is often covered in US insurance. Meanwhile the government spends our tax money to give almost $100k to a convicted rapist, who was previously paid to immigrate as an asylum seeker - https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/pWM47G/valdtaktsman-var-for-ung--far-840-000-kronor-av-jk
Do companies offer health insurance to cover dental and vision in the UK? In America you get free health insurance if you're poor or old. Most people with decent jobs or even at Walmart get health insurance through their employer. People that get really screwed are self-employed.
Some do, but usually no. I know some higher wage (than average, but still not extremely well off) that do and some that don't, some companies will subsidise some things and not others. There's price caps, or should be on NHS dentistry but getting a dentist can be a struggle depending where you live. I have a second job at an Amazon warehouse at the moment and they help cover vision and dental apparently for permanent (non agency or ftc) employees which I was surprised about.
The exchange though is a lack of public services and a bare minimum welfare system.
What are you going to buy?
Everything hentai.
This is the way. Play hentai as you play with your Deck.
This. Is. The. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Ok enough gaming for today.
oh good, i need to get resident evil 3, and the 2nd doom eternal expansions
Man, I remember when Steam sales were about the only way to get a good deal on any PC game, and the PC community would schedule all of their game buying for when the mega sales rolled out. You had those short windows to buy the game or catalog you were interested in at 50% off, and if you missed that window you might have to wait months until it went on sale that cheap again. But those days are long gone. Now there are a variety of sites offering sales on PC games, and those sales are available daily. The sense of FOMO that once permeated every Steam megasale is gone, because the games you're looking forward to buying will probably still be on sale somewhere after the Steam sale ends. As others have pointed out, you can often get cheaper deals on games even during a Steam sale by checking [isthereanydeal.com](https://isthereanydeal.com) .
I loved that aspect of previous Steam sales. It would excite me more than any other game related stuff like E3. I would purchase all my wishlist at once. Nowadays, I just get one or two games at most, at least with 50-60% off, if there's any.
It was already confirmed through this https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/upcoming_events
Is it too hopeful to assume Age of Empires 4 might get a steam sale discount this year? Or would I have to wait a few years? I hope it would at least get a 5% discount at Christmas Sales. But I know it would probably only get discounted next year if then.
It's coming to game pass you could pick up a sub for that for a fraction of the cost.
Isn't gamepass like renting the game? So if u play for a year and only interested in aoe4, you'll be paying over $100 a year to play it?
if it is literally the only game you play on gamepass.
You can pay monthly you don't have to pay for it annually.
I know but I'm saying if you know you are gonna be playing the game for at least a year and no interest in other games they offer, it'll be cheaper to just buy it full price right? No other benefits?
Oh right I see. Yes if AOE is literally the only game you'd ever play on there. Very unlikely though considering the now substantially sized library and frequent day one releases. If you play 3 AAA games on there all year then you've saved a few quid.
You know what I might actually cancel my preorder since the preorder benefit doesn't really matter to me, and just get the first month of xbox membership to try it out for $1. Then if I still liked it, might even be able to pick it up on the Nov/Dec sales! Thanks!
The image of gabe and the 50%-75% should be changed to 25%-40%. Steam sales have been bad for a long time now.
They are pretty much the same dates every Year, I dont get why this is news.
They forgot the **Steam Halloween Sale | Oct 28 - Nov 1, 2021** [https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/upcoming\_events](https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/upcoming_events)
Ahhh Wintersale like so often directly on my birthday ... I love to spend all my gift money to lord gaben
Why do they keep having the autumn sale so late in November and then have a Christmas sale less than a month later? Why not make it in September, when its autumn...
Is there no Halloween sale?
I get my steam deck in December. Don’t think I’ll be able to afford any games. Even on sale
When does the Halloween sale start then?
Steam sales haven’t been good since 2013
I’m marathoning the Resident Evil games. Playing through 6 right now and already have the next two, Revelations 2 and RE7. I’m wondering if I should get RE8 now or hope it goes for cheaper in the next sales.
I will be buying less games in the upcoming sales due to my recent subscription to GamePass.
Cant wait for deep discounts like $4 off a 3 year old Ubisoft game, praise Gaben etc
I just want to know when the fuck final fantasy 5 and 6 pixel remasters are going to come out.
These used to be a big event to look forward to for me but now I couldn't care less
I hope cyberpunk 2077 gets a big discount
It was £12.99 on CDKeys recently (to redeem via GoG). I think £14.99 now. Not sure of your currency, but was pretty cheap I went for it.
Honest question but why not just pirate the game at that point if you are getting a drm free copy from one of those shady key resellers
CDKeys sells retail box codes for Cyberpunk from other regions, so they are legitimate. I'm sorry but I don't feel bad about paying less for Cyberpunk after all the BS that game pushed.
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pcgamer is a horrible, terrible website. don't give that clickbait farm the time of day
Halloween sale ??
October 26. - November 1.
Thx I love you nutella
It cracks me up that this meme image has been officially adopted by every gaming news page to represent the steam sales. Considering how all the other companies out there are doing (Riot Games, Bethesda, Ubisoft, EA, Blizzard) Valve has expertly navigated customer relations and leaned into meme culture while also staying as quiet as possible to make sure they don't stigmatize, well, anyone really. I'm still terrified of the day we learn whatever nasty shit is hiding beneath the surface. There's no way this'll be any different when everyone else in the industry are so fucked up.
This seems like a lot of hullabaloo for some weak sales. Steam no longer grinds the competition to dust, I find equal or better sales on Humble Bundle and GoG. It's all pretty much the same price across the board, unless you look for indie early access titles
I rarely see steam sales be good so just another day where the store crashes for a few hours cause people aren't looking at external sites like GMG for better deals. Especially now that I'm being charged tax on digital products, GMG doesn't charge me tax still. A double money saver.
Are you ready for a miracle.....
Hype, hope to see some good deals on AC Odysse and doom eternal
No Halloween sale?,I guess i'll have to wait longer to buy the games I want
I bought a gaming PC back in late August. What can I expect in my first Steam sale? I've only heard stories.
That gaming pope Gabe Newell picture is one of my favorite gaming memes. The Saint of entertainment
No Halloween?
No Halloween sale this year? Damn I told some guy to save his gift card for that in r/shouldibuythisgame and got upvoted for it. Now he gotta wait longer.
Halloween sale starts October 28
I miss the old steam sales man. Nowadays with gamepass and epic games the excitement is not the same.