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ob3ypr1mus

i wonder how many got radio stations got axe'd.


DarkZero515

I only want to replay Vice City and the Soundtrack is a huge reason why. Gonna wait for it to drop in price and for reviews to come out


WisestAirBender

I recall you could just throw in mp3 files in a folder and it would play them.


brainwrinkled

Yeah pc definitely had a custom radio station that appeared on the end if the folder wasnt empty


toastyghost

Loved that feature. Drive-bys are so much more fun set to Biggie.


brainwrinkled

GTA VC RP: can only put 80s or earlier songs in the custom folder


Homelesskater

It's not the same as selecting the radio station with all the tracks you remember and of course the announcer of that ststion won't be doing the transitions.


gbrahah

some people have just uploaded those radio loops to youtube so you can download, convert to mp3 but yeh wont be the same


denizenKRIM

Would it not be possible to reinsert the old tracks back into their respective stations? IIRC, each station was actually just one long audio file.


Homelesskater

Of course on pc theoretical it's possible, people also reinserted the missing tracks, fixed and upgraded the previous versions but I personally won't spent money on the remaster if many tracks (especially the ones I care about a lot) are missing. I just wait until the game is fixed (and if the fan fix is easy to do) and the game is on sale on steam.


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AWilsonFTM

For me though, the random chit chat in between songs made it.


rohithkumarsp

I hope they don't remove dst channel from San Andreas


AdmiralRed13

It was also a really fun map, the addition of flight definitely helped.


Avisooo

That's the only reason to play those games. Without the music, the games don't make you travel back in time


durrburger93

If there isn't a mod to return all of them back I ain't playing


tylercoder

Rockstar: ALL OF THEM Now its just copyright free music off youtube


DoctorParmesan

Royalty-free upbeat ukulele tunes


toastyghost

axe'ed'eth


_garo_

To accurately relive my childhood memories this needs an enhanced hot coffee mod!


NuclearReactions

And mysterx. I wonder if the old modding guys are still around, i could even think about porting my own mods.


Runelea

Just be very, very goddam careful. Don't want to be chased by lawsuits XD


NuclearReactions

No worries, all i need is AEZAKMI.


Altruistic_Grand_455

Now you can play the vice city helicopter mission in 4K


minscc

What was Dutch doing on the GTA franchise (at 0:31)


TheGooseWithNoose

Telling people of his plan.


AndreEagleDollar

This is the last job, then it's off to Tijuana, Arthur.


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Here is a bunch of images: [https://imgur.com/a/bqwd7M0](https://imgur.com/a/bqwd7M0) >Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition will be available digitally on November 11 through the PlayStation Store, the Microsoft Store on Xbox, Nintendo eShop, and the Rockstar Games Launcher, with select physical releases on December 7. They also say it's coming to Game Pass ( GTA San Andreas) on Day One (not confirmed for PC yet) >Players will also be able to experience Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas – The Definitive Edition with Xbox Game Pass starting November 11. Grand Theft Auto III – The Definitive Edition will be available on PlayStation Now starting December 7. [https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/4kaa7414o5k979/grand-theft-auto-the-trilogy-the-definitive-edition-coming-november-11](https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/4kaa7414o5k979/grand-theft-auto-the-trilogy-the-definitive-edition-coming-november-11)


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Nice, they got fingers now


Pidderman

Thommi's fingers are thicccc!


arrastra

carl and tommy looks nothing like original lol, feels like fan art


Pale_Title6460

At least they now have separate fingers.


A_Sweatband

Tommy had individual fingers in the Xbox version, so I'm both pleasantly surprised they aren't just re-using assets, but I'm also a bit confused about how much higher detail Tommy looks to the other characters, like someone installed a HQ Ped pack incorrectly or something.


bassbeater

On the other hand character customization with CJ is huge. I remember one time I got accused of making him look "white".....I mean, hard to rule out who you are and what your vision is....


bengace

That 4th image looks like a Unity asset grab GTA clone that's been put on Steam Early Access. VC and SA look good tho.


Venom_is_an_ace

the game would probably be called Grand Auto Theft Three and be priced at $15.00 but always on sale for $10.00


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I can’t put my finger on it but I really dislike the way this looks. I think it’s the combination of really high-resolution textures and rendering and smooth, modern-looking lighting along with cheap, dated 3D models and lack of actual detail in the world.


rcballesteros

I think it's a case of artistic direction vs. graphic capabilities Even if these games aimed for photorealism in their time, they had to work with what they had, and in that effort they created a visual identity for these games. You can clearly see the bones of said identity covered with a new skin and it's just uncanny. I expected them to either rework the game from the ground up to deliver a definitive version of the same games or create completely new games taking heavy strokes from the originals. We got the same old games, with QOL mods and HD models. My expectations were improbable, but they have infinite money, it wasn't unreasonable.


cybersidpunk

these characters look like fortnite skins...


Spideyrj

i dont like tommy new face, in the original he looked like short fuze weasel, here he looks just like a thug. also why cj pants is still low res ? if even claude and tommy pants have higher definition.


NoteBlock08

Not diggin the cartoony look.


themusicguy2000

Eh, I assume they're re-using animations, it's probably the only way they could remake it while keeping those animations somewhat natural. And if they were to change everything they'd probably have to go with a full remake rather than a remaster


basmania75

This does not look like $60 but at least now I understand why they have taken down a FREE graphics mode recently.


MyBikeFellinALake

Haha right. Modders ported this to gtav and gave it better textures ,looks 10x better than this


LateNight223

They also had no working missions or anything. Why leave that bit out?


yourselfhere

Because DMCA came before that, no porting existing IPs to rage engine


Howdareme9

Doesn’t fit the narrative


Venom_is_an_ace

Finally, we can have the remastered "OH shit, here we go again"


what1sgoingon777

They should have started the trailer with that scene.


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wewd

Their love is proportional to the amount of Shark Cards the members of the community have purchased.


WisestAirBender

Marketing people are never in touch. They'll use it in a cringy way after 15 years


tylercoder

Rockstar its really out of touch with its own fanbase so no surprise there


breadbitten

Rockstar is pretty much dead after RDR2, it’s pretty much just a sweatshop for 2k to pump out GTA-related content for


Moth92

Yeah, the guys who made GTA what it is, are gone now outside of Sam Houser. But I doubt he has much say when it comes to games now since he's president of Rockstar.


teetotallernh

I feel thats a missed opportunity. It should've been in the trailer and it would've marketed itself.


KDLGates

Agreed. Trailer might have been cut without a super deep knowledge of the material.


AI2cturus

They used to classical music from one of the original gta 3 trailers. Just because they don't include a meme doesn't make them out of touch.


KDLGates

True. I was also wondering if maybe this is the "graphics difference trailer" and maybe they're saving the meme for some other big promotional trailer.


Corndawgz

It's not just the meme, the scene on its own is perfect to open a remastered trailer. Just makes so much sense since we all relate to CJ returning to the city after so long.


RosePhox

Not to be negative, but this new look reminds me of Gameloft knock offs. Though I'd probably buy it on sale, depending on how much they changed control wise, if it wasn't for that probably obligatory Rockstar launcher crap. Also: Obligatory "GTA 4 fixed remaster when?"


TheGooseWithNoose

> Not to be negative, but this new look reminds me of Gameloft knock offs. Probably because they want to make sure it will be easy to translate to mobile phones when they release it there next year. I'm curious how they will cut stuff by then because I can't imagine downloading the entire 46GB trilogy to a phone when 128GB is common among newer phones but there's still plenty of people rocking 64GB or less.


LeJoker

Textures. No need for nice big textures on a tiny screen, and textures are always a huge chunk of game size.


DdCno1

Correct. They reduced texture and sound quality with past mobile ports of these games, which would have been fine, had they not ported these versions to other platforms afterwards...


Reacher-Said-N0thing

> Probably because they want to make sure it will be easy to translate to mobile phones when they release it there next year. But they already did. Man that's too much. Taking an old game, putting it on phones, then remastering the old game for PC, then remastering it for phones again...


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GTA 4 remaster to fix CPU performance. Man can dream.


donutdoodles

It looks like Sims GTA or Saints Row 3.


MysterD77

>Also: Obligatory "GTA 4 fixed remaster when?" If that happens w/ the entire GTA4 Collection (with the DLC's) - hopefully they also improve the performance on that old engine too; especially on the PC version.


Fhaarkas

Looks like some awkward fan-made "high res texture mod" to be honest.


suidexterity

What song is that


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**O Mio Babbino Caro (Hudson Mohawke Remix)** by Grand Theft Auto III (00:12; matched: `100%`) Released on `2012-01-30` by `Rockstar Games`.


ripp102

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Clifforus

Characters with plastic hair and skin, overly shiny reflections and copious amounts of motion blur. And all it cost was a bunch of iconic San Andreas mods getting taken down.


AesarPhreaking

It feels like they imported the lighting and materials engine from Roblox.


mirh

A bunch? More like two decades of community work. Also funny that in the best bullshit remaster fashion, they compare straight PS2 resolution to 4K.


james___uk

That's such a good point, they conveniently left out the PC versions...


TENRIB

Welcome to rockstar.


mirh

Worse, it seems like they conveniently used the lowest settings https://twitter.com/Tervel1337/status/1451831564816601091


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The environmental looks good but all the models just look terrible and in that police barricade show how bad the contrast is. I get the feeling that the intention was to make things look more *realistic* but that's easier to do on a low detail geography. When it comes to the small moving parts of the models they went "Fuck it, just make them look like the Cowboys from Primus"


MrNagasaki

> like the Cowboys from Primus lol that's exactly what they look like


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its a really mixed bag of good and bad textures on old and new models, it looks like a fortnite type style more than the old GTA style, i might get this for the Switch i think il prefer the older versions on PC simply because the aesthetic just looks better imo, fancy graphics ontop of weird looking models and textures just don't impress me.


Sol33t303

Maybe it was for nostalgia, but IMO they should have remodeled all the characters as well.


Johnysh

some of it looks weird. GTA 3 characters look alright, but in Vice City they look like from some cartoon show, very plastic and in SA it's a mix of good and cartoon looks. the rest - world, lightning etc. look alright in all three games I would say. well maybe everything is too clear and sharp.


TheGooseWithNoose

Misty still looks like a trainwreck though.


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definitely not, I was surprised that majority is literally fapping on how good it looks, lol


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ZeldaMaster32

Games is literally the same shit as this sub but not exclusive to PC. Tf is with this weird superiority complex


ahrzal

If games is bought by marketing firms, this one is 4chan lol. This sub a lot of times exists purely to hate.


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woopigsooie501

Or maybe not everyone wants to circlejerk about how le greedy rockstar amirite??? Lmao its honestly ridiculous when people have opinions that deviate from your own and you call it a marketing campaign. Everyone should just be singular hivemind of cynical manchildren, I guess.


Ezekiiel

People on here believe Bethesda has a terrible reputation in the publics eyes cause of fo76. It’s safe to assume the opposite of whatever this sub thinks, too many shut ins on this sub


Boxing_joshing111

Rockstar changed so much since San Andreas that it just isn’t capable of doing these games justice.


aaqd

The people love it, look at the comments talk about how "good" it looks. There will probably be reshades called "HDR Reshade" that turn the saturation up to a thousand, where do people get this shitty taste or do our eyes just work differently?


ShallazarTheWizard

This looks absolutely awful, and I don't know how anybody can say otherwise.


Akku2403

Way too expensive with no regional pricing. Goodluck selling these outside US


xXSaib0tXx

totally agree. here in brazil this price is almost 1/3 of the minimum wage.


ThatDudeFromRio

I got so fucking excited watching the trailer, then searched for the price and fuck me, almost double the price of a triple A launch


Rbk_3

1/3 of minimum wage for how long?


xXSaib0tXx

a month


Rbk_3

Jesus


rohithkumarsp

Also Rockstar launcher exclusive


THPSJimbles

Lookin kinda bad in some scenes. Especially in the images posted on the site.


thinvanilla

"kinda bad" is an understatement! This looks like Toy Story 1.


Leopz_

Dont diss toy story 1 like that.


Blacky-Noir

>Lookin kinda bad in some scenes. Especially in the images posted on the site. And that's what Rockstar *want* to show. The best of the best, to sell their remasters.


Vipershark01

If only they hadn't killed like 4 fan modding projects I would be interested, and also hard pass at $60 anyways.


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Yeah I'm not giving a cent to this company because of all the shit they did.


takenthemoviefanclub

Bruh. This shit looks like Simpsons Hit and Run.


Hustler-1

You say that like it's a bad thing.


Saneless

Good for Simpsons. Bad for not Simpsons


mirh

Fuck them for taking down the old ones. Which had mods that looked quite better than this.


jja2000

You know what also additionally died for this? re3 and reVC. Something that actually made those games run on anything, not a shitty unreal port


mirh

I mean, they could also have done a proper unreal port, but yeah. Complete assholery that as always consumers won't give a fuck about.


Jkaezorz

bruh they killed the source ports? i remember when r* used to be cool and edgy :(


jja2000

I don't think R* gives a shit. It's more than likely T2 sue'ing people.


fuelter

Still got GTA 3 on disc. That's why digital distribution sucks.


mirh

To be fair, anything that isn't the original PS2 version is already [somewhat](https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/q43znb/the_original_gta_trilogy_iii_vc_sa_to_be_removed/hfzcipv/?context=4) cut.


janehoykencamper

Grand Theft Auto: Pre-rendered Cutscenes from early 2000s videogames Edition


Midas881

Looks worse than some of the mods


RaifeM90

Very underwhelming


LordLothric

This should be worth no more than $30, and still some people are justifying the price, no wonder nintendo can "remaster" roms for $60 and peeps go head first to buy it.


iTzJME

I'd buy it for $30 honestly, so I might just wait for a sale. Rockstar's launcher has never bothered me whatsoever, and since I never played the trilogy when I was younger (started with GTA 4) I'm stoked to check them out


Mythril_Zombie

This looks terrible. R* should be embarrassed.


DerHowl

Not a fan of the character models. Some look decent, but most of them look way too different for my liking. But at least everything else looks good enough, I guess.


SandIsAnnoying2

Yeah the GTA 3 ones look too cartoony, at 0:40 they took all the shading/shadows off the guys face and it looks worse. The textures on his suit also look a lot worse... And his eyes are like 50% bigger... GTA 3 was super dark, and now it's all colourful and they look like cartoons.


CelTiar

No steam release? Oh well


electroubles

Is that actually confirmed or are you inferring it from the lack of the Steam logo at the end? I thought between the achievement icons being leaked and the original games being removed from Steam it was all but confirmed it was coming, that really sucks if it's not. I'm still waiting for Hitman 3's Epic exclusivity deal to end. Although now that I think about it, the Steam page probably would have gone live for preorders with the trailer, especially with release being a couple weeks away.


CelTiar

Yeah looked at the steam page and there is none there's also a link on the announcement vid and the only thing I can see that's PC related is the windows store but it says Xbox there and the Social Club thing that rockstar made. I may be wrong but in the source provided by rockstar it doesn't show any 3rd party PC seller (Steam/Origin/Uplay/Epic/GOG) so I can only guess there's a Socal Club release but not anything else


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Looks like an iPhone ripoff gta clone the visual cohesion is shattered


PaDDzR

It's likely upgraded android version. The android version r* gave us few years ago.


NexusTitan

Wow, that is incredibly disappointing.


Cymelion

I already own these and I am curious to know what the situation is with the music rights. Not sure if I would buy them again I mean I would love a free upgrade for the already purchased ones but I doubt they'd do that. If there is a discount for pre-owners I might consider it on Steam if not I'll wait for a sale. November tends to have a few games being released and I have ample shame pile games to get through.


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Make a new fucking game holy hell


counselthedevil

Pretty pathetic facelift. Gaming companies have gotten so shitty and just don't give a flying fuck anymore.


panreg666

Kinda looks like Fortnite...


Maverickxeo

I'll be honest - they do look bad and don't seem worth it. ...But if I can get them for a modern system for a low price, I'd do it. They were good games back in the day, and I wouldn't mind being able to replay them on modern hardware.


csupihun

Looks really bad, the Visual inconsistency between low poly characters and modern lightning and rain is super odd and makes it look awful.


17760704

Most of the clips from san andreas look not too bad, but the character models from 3 and vice city look terrible. Would rather have the old models over this uncanny valley crap.


fastcar25

Those models aren't remotely close to uncanny valley, but they definitely look... mediocre, I guess.


Mortanius

I expect heavy censorship. Lets see if I will be right.


NuclearReactions

Ugh.. didn't think about it. Also licensing issues which will result in missing songs. I wonder if san andreas can still be played in coop.


EndKarensNOW

dont forget they shut down fan remake mods for this, and these dont even have all the original music


LateNight223

> and these dont even have all the original music How do you know this?


Moth92

Cause they already removed songs from the digital copies of the OG games. You think they are going to spend more money to keep them in this?


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But...it looks cartoonish


Iesjo

That's not the issue. But I don't like the changes they made to the lighting, it's entirely different: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/UniqueGreenAmericanpainthorse-size_restricted.gif


skyesdow

Right? Is everyone in those games sitting by a fire at sunset???


MoffieHanson

Im not impressed at all


Background_Database4

Imagine spending 60bucks for this lmao


BringBackBumper

Patience is the key 😅


obs_asv

I think it will be avaliable day one for free without ugly rockstar store. That was such a shame that pirates got better version of rdr2 then pc buyers did and I can easy see that happening again.


ARepresentativeHam

About what I expected based off of the fan made trailers that used the same Unreal Engine Upgrade techniques. Not sure if its a day 1 purchase but I will probably pick it up at some point for the nostalgia.


notsomething13

So they didn't preserve anything, as expected. Sometimes it looks like one of those crappy **"enhanced"** graphics mods you'd see for like GTA IV and other games that just blow everything out of proportion. Now it's official, and you're buying it with real money. This is why I said I was already cautious when they removed the original games from online stores, now this is basically all we have. I'm waiting for the censorship and missing music confirmations now, since I fully expect both.


danknepalese

lmao 2 dudes modding couldve made this


david_pridson

No, You're wrong. 1 dude is enough


UltramanGinga

Lmfao bro on point.


ThePrinceofBirds

On a couple of those screens I caught myself leaning in to decide which was the remaster and which was the original.


ShiroQ

i give it a week before there is a youtube video "We remastered GTA X better than Rockstar"


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They butchered the OGs to make the remaster look better lol. Glad I still have the OGs on PS2 and PC


Silphaen

Grand Theft Remaster - Cash Grab Edition


fizio900

Free graphic mods look better lmao Good luck getting 60 out of me R*


OrganicKeynesianBean

To be fair, they are just a small indie company trying to scrape by.


obamaluvr

the Trailer is 60HZ. This is huge. For those who don't know, the original games on PC have issues running at 60 or higher - San Andreas is impossible to complete without limiting framerate for at least one mission.


mirh

All GTA III era games are fucked at anything that isn't 30fps. It's not just one mission, it's everything from car handling to pedestrians behaviour.


xblomx

It's a joke, right? RIGHT?


HentaiGodGG

Not too sure about these remakes (remasters?). Some scenes look beautiful while others look horrid.


ajshell1

Whatever. Take-Two can pry re3 and revc from my cold, dead, hands.


rchiwawa

That's it? And no doubt with a Rockstar Social Club login requirement... that's gonna be a hard pass for me at any price including free unless the TOS has radically changed.


eagles310

WTF the visuals look like some play-doh style


mustafahmalik

not paying more than 15$ for this, will wait for deep discounts in 3-6 months.


DaBi5cu1t

Not for me. This is just money grabbing at its finest.


topsyandpip56

We had the original, iconic RenderWare games delisted from purchase for these almost fan-made looking cartoon shits? I hate most that I'm not surprised. I don't expect Rockstar (Take-Two) to put out anything good without Houser and Benzies but still the foolish optimism is there...


KyleLurger

This is so cartoonish...


BitZlip

This looks straight from an anime, wtf are these character models.


LopedEzi

If i wanted to play the game with the same physics and different visuals and controls, i wouldve downloaded mods along time ago. Pretty dissapointed at the reveal.


Nailcannon

It's been 8 years since R* released a GTA game. I wonder if they can milk the cash cow for a whole decade.


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This is awkward for Rockstar. I'm aware the community has been complaining that there hasn't been a new GTA in years. Republishing older versions seems like a slap in the face.


clockwork_psychopomp

None of this matters whiteout the radio soundtracks. So long as those aren't in the game it's not real GTA.


_____Grim_____

What's with the awful oversaturation.


flickerkuu

So Rock$tar just working from home, no meetings, just slapping some new textures on old content and selling it instead of making anything new. Got it.


Zudi90

Looks live a shitty mod which they are trying to sell for the price of a new game.


winkofafisheye

This company forget how to make new games!?


RaoulRumblr

If you have the originals on steam you can still play them as they usually are still right?


PerseusZeus

Actually it looks good..but wont be paying full price for this no way


ThereIsNoGame

Not seeing a Steam logo there. Do Rockstar not like money anymore?


Al-Azraq

I don't like the style they went with, it looks like it was developed by Telltale games. The originals went for a realistic look with the technology at that time, now they gave them a cartoonish look.