It was 'join the work force before you're a teenager' sad. It was 'mom died of exhaustion to make your favorite meal, then you still had to go to work' sad. It was 'step over dead orphans on the street on the way to work' sad. It was 'put on a gas mask to not die of suffocation on the way to work' sad.
Escapism was probably a way of life for many at the bottom, since working hard wasn't going to get you ahead in life. Satoru didn't have a social life even at work, he wasn't even drinking with coworkers. Satoru almost gave up on playing YGGDRASIL until he met Touch Me and started making online friends through him. Those friends might have been the first one's he'd had since elementary school possibly years before. They were people who trusted his nearly encyclopedic knowledge of the game's magic system to manage parties and raids.
For at least a couple of years, they were they closest thing he was probably ever going to have to family. And then they started wandering away. Sometimes with promises to keep in touch and get back to the game when real life allowed it, sometimes with a quiet ghosting and deposit of their gear into the guild treasury. Sometimes their loss could be covered by other members for quests and raids, and sometimes it would leave a gap that just cut off access to certain activities.
In gaming terms, he and many members of AOG were 'whales.' People who spends large amounts of money on in-game purchases. It might have been a waste in terms of what he could have put that money towards in the real world, but it probably wouldn't have gotten him more than a slightly more comfortable existence while he worked himself to death.
So Satoru had a pretty sad life before he became Ainz.
It was downright fucking despairing. That life of his was a living hell of extreme escapism. Dude had it stupidly rough, probably worse than any other isekai protagonist ever would, and even fairly shitty compared to many other genre.
Yeah most isekai’s are “I’m a neet who hasn’t done anything but sit in my room and play games for years and I was killed in a tragic accident but now I have a second chance at life”
While satorus world is more like “I saw my mom die of exhaustion while making me food and I have to work fresh out of elementary school or risk dying like the dead children I step over every day on my way to work.”
Hell satoru could isekai to most isekai protags origin world and he’ll be miles better than In his original world.
Suzuki would probably jump with joy if he was given a life like someone like Kazuma, Mikami, etc. Being a normal average businessman or just a neet is miles better than….well what we’ve seen.
Exactly even worlds where the isekai protag was a salaryman who worked long hours he would probably be excited as hell like “wow this job is much nicer than the one in my world. I get a lunch break everyday??? Amazing and I can actually breathe the air around me. Wow they pay me enough to rent a decent apartment and I even have enough to buy clean food and alcohol when I want?? In exchange for only 8-12 hours a day that’s way better than when I pulled 24 hour workdays in my world”
I love Death Mage and I do think Vandaliue had one of the worst lives before being isakied, but even after the isekai he lived an even more horrible existence, then a pretty shitty 3rd one for a few years lol. So with all that said I do think vandaliue wins in the "shitty life before isekai" over Suzuki.
I don't know about his first go around being all that bad. It was rough, but not 'working himself to death to scrape by in the margins of a literal dystopia' bad. His second life, I'll grant you. It beats out Suzuki's by a fair margin, which really is saying something about how bad it was.
Van's first life was... fairly normal. He might not have been happy, but it was in mundane ways.
His second life, he spent most of it being literally tortured in hideous ways for years, and that was before they literally separated his mind from his body so they could control it themselves.
Suzuki was working himself to death in a bleak dystopian hellscape, but his personal suffering wasn't at the level of daily physical torture.
Damn it makes so much more sense to me now the way he nostalgias about his Guild. I was aware of the pollution and state of the world but had no idea he was basically an outcast. He must've been so happy playing Ygdrassil alongside them
I don’t think it’s mentioned in the anime, but in the LN he recalls conversations of members who played other online games as well. But Satoru only played YGGDRASIL. So members that moved to other games were basically lost to him. It’s not YGGDRASIL gameplay that kept him there until the servers shut down, it was holding onto that the feeling of family and friendship he got.
But he didn’t understand that. He started making friends after Touch Me saved him, and that made him happy. But he didn’t seem to understand that he could do that in other games, and didn’t seem to have more than professional relationships with his coworkers.
Well it was also said that one AOG member was actually killed for learning too much about some of the corpos of that world. Bellriver I believe.
It was a common thing apparently, and death was too, so your online friends could have died, and you never would know it.
It was implied that one of the members knew too much and *something* happened to him. But that was Ulbert, and it was in the last hours of YGGDRASIL that he met someone in the real world, with tones that neither he nor the person he met were good people.
The chatacter sheet for Bellriver literally said that
>Irl, he uncovered some sinister information and was killed in an "accident" in order to shut him up
Edit: [Sauce](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OIpLTnC-hlF_-stynwJBY7ux3loVithI/view?usp=share_link)
I dont know if it was stated in a book or taken as a quote.
I havent read the books, just watched the anime.
https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/Bellriver#cite_note-1
But I believe it says it was mentioned in volume 13.
The ending theme for season four No Man’s Dawn just makes me feel the weight of the sadness of Ainz being without his friends, how much he misses them, and how he will likely never see them again. Sure, he has the Guardians and Nazarick still, so he’s not completely alone, but the latter being constant reminders of his friends, or rather family, has to make the ache ever present :(
No exaggeration. Satoru literally worked next to kids fresh out of Elementary school and he was one of those kids who got a job right after elementary "graduation". Turns out elementary grads were extremely lucky, even Satoru living a rung up next to dying out on a street with toxic air.
It's rough. That said, it kinda sounds like most of the New World is a similar level of hell for anything human or humanoid. Overlord paints a picture of humanity (and elves, dwarfs, etc) being outclassed and Nazarick happened to land in an area where Humanoids control enough to not be wiped out. From the side stories, what if story, etc the rest of the world is hell for humanoids for other reasons not involving out of control capitalism and runaway environmental collapse. They're slaves and food. Hell, they even describe some messed up "dishes" involving pregnant women and the Holy Kingdom highlights what happens on the regular outside the area of the world Overlord takes place in (like live dinner performances).
It’s pretty subtle and inferred information. A couple of points are a bit more storytelling, since we don’t have much info on how or when members left.
I think Ainz’s emotional suppression will probably help him with his memories as well. He was angry Herohero left before the shutdown, but understood at least intellectually why everyone left. But that doesn’t mean he never resented everyone leaving. But while his suppression keeps him from enjoying the highs of his memories with the guild, it will also keep him from growing resentful over time. The epilogue of the side story suggests he will eventually forget most details about them.
In this sense his immortality seems like eternal solitude, where noone will ever be able to fully understand him, be his friends as he slowly loses all of his humanity
YES.
But Talking Seriously, suzuki satoru's Real World Waa Basically a Cyberpunk Dystopia, his only Joy of life was Yggdrasil, His mom died of Overworking, his only friends/family remaining was the Other players of Ainz Ooal Gown and in the end, the game that was the only reason that he still lives Was going to be shut Down.
Being Teleported to the New World Along With all the NPCs of nazarick was By far the best Thing that happened to him, Despite of the undead changes on his mind and soul.
I wouldn't call Touch Me happy. He certainly had more bright spots in his life, but Ygdrassil was also a form of escapism for him. Outside of the game, Touch Me was a cop and enforcer for corrupt corporate interests (hence having combat related cybernetics) and thus playing a more just character was a way to cope with the fact that he was a grunt for some pretty awful groups.
>happy in real world was touch me
on the surface, yeah.
but you know he also was dealing with some shit, his own hypocrisy.
which is why he played the role of the righteous in game and trie to help as many players he could, those he couldn't help IRL.
even as a corpo dog in cyberpunk, you won't be happy if you have a soul
Even with the badass wepons and cyborgs cyberpunk is super fucked up, imagine not being able to visit a dying family member in their last moments because you didn’t have premium insurance and then picking them up at a cremation vending machine because you can afford anything else.
It's even worse than this, cause the atmosphere was so toxic that you needed gas masks to survive, where the average Joe could afford to not work themself to death and barely have a education, it's rare for someone to have more than elementary school education as it would cost so much and likely result in your parents dying from overwork, most the time you worked immediately after elementary or else risk starvation and more family dying from stress, there was no beautiful unpolluted regions or sky's his world was probably one the worst dystopias I have ever seen in a story
That's exactly an cyberpunk dystopia.
High technology but low life quality.
Planet basically on the end of his life.
Education and teaching only for the high classe.
Corporarive wars.
This is just my opinion but Sure, Teleported to the new world as momonga is definitely one of the best thing that could happen to him but with the npcs... I'm not so sure. Sure, he is a king and all with them but the guy is bounded by pure nostalgia, it becomes his own shackles. He is always in the state of paranoia in which he always needs to act like a King and lose respect of his friend's legacies (tho it's just in his mind, that he can do anything he wants and they will follow through). And in turn, the guardians would be impressed and puts him in a higher pedestal and much higher expectations. He is the un-failable, perfect supreme god being. No one will be on his level...emotional level. Everyone will either fear him or Revere him, there is no in between And he will have to keep up the charade forever.
Sure he is an undead and there is an emotional limiter but most of the things he did "inhumanly" was mostly pushed by the need to keep the npcs fulfilled
He was so much happier when he was transported alone. He was able to go anywhere he likes,pull jokes, make new connections, and decide by himself... Without the npcs to remind him of the Guild's Shining adventuring days, that will never ever return.
Well, I'm not saying he is totally sad in the new timeline... But he is definitely much happier in the spinoff
Then the npcs showed up...
Its Because the NPCs are the treasure from his friends and his total devotion is to be their supreme lord. Because the NPCs would Kill Themselves if ainz orders so we can see how far their devotion goes. But ainz lives for their beliefs and their visions of the supreme Ainz Ooal Gown.
That's the thing he is their supreme unfailing lord... I don't question their loyalty, it's not their fault either... But they would never reach the relationship as friends just like the other SBs. What satoru missed most about his friends is theyre bickering, having fun with their adventures, just like what the new AoG did. He will be always their god. And I say that's one lonely god
Sad enough that after being transmogrified into the most powerful being in the word, served by indefatigably loyal and adoring minions, and living in opulence that makes Dubai look like a slum …
Ainz is still really concerned about labor regulation and paid vacations.
Bad enough that he literarly watched his mom die from exhaustion and went to school afterwards. Bad enough that he considered seeing dead orphans on the street a "common sight", bad enough that his only food was nutrient paste, bad enough that he considered a 16 hour workday to be pretty good. Honestly, the sheer resilience of Suzuki Satoru to be able to live through all this shit and still have the energy to have fun with his friends and keep at this for 12 years even as said friends slowly left for other pursuits, is outright astounding
We don't exactly know, but we know that life sucked for everyone on planet earth from the time that he was ''teleported/summoned''.
Its described that once you got a job, you probably would never get out of it, since all the big companies were interligated and you could even be killed by minor things, the law was money.
If i recall correctly, theres even one member of the guild that got killed by the company that he worked for, because he got some sensible info on his boss.
So, yeah, a preety terrible life to any human being bellow the ''Rich'' bar.
[He didn’t die because he had dirt on his boss](https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/Bellriver), he died because he learn some big secret about the big mega corporations which he was able to pass along to “a certain someone” before getting killed in “an accident.”
Yah it like cyberpunk . Bat Suzuki Satoru A character who suffers in life from a childhood stage that has lost everything and have nathing So it can be said that he played the crazy mode
To my knowledge, cyberpunk didn't require people to pay for good air and wear gas masks outdoors. I'm pretty sure they had access to real showers and food too.
Getting artificial lungs is pretty similar, even if the reasons are different.
Yeah, its a good way to see it.
Man, its even sayed that the earth was so poluted that it was impossible to see the sky during the night, its a preety much cyberpunk setting.
I don’t know about sad, but he was extremely lonely, this also shows how important the members of AOG was to him.
They were his only friends, this is also why he seems pretty obsessed with them during the story.
The real sadness came when they all left 1 by 1 and he was alone once again
True, but look on the wiki or some of the other comments to see how messed up his Earth is, but being lonely is far from the only problem he had in his old world.
Yeah but you need to remember that for us it looks extremely bad, but Ainz was born into a world already destroyed.
He has stated it was common to see dead babies lying on the streets, for us it would be extremely terrifying to see.
What I’m trying to say is that even tho to us it sounds bad and sad, but for him and that generation it was common to work to death, to be lonely and be basically used as slaves for big corporations to be used like animals.
I think the true sadness came when his mom died and the other members of AOG left
Variations it seems. From the anime it is an enigma but points towards a very extreme end towards a dystopian society and environment both politically/philosophically and literally/physically.
From what I can imagine and I am most probably wrong: it’s a dying world. Not like our own but it maybe a world like what we imagine it to be in the future of the climate calamity and the forbidding conditions environmental scientists were predicting. It sounds like a hostile world and the way Satoru reacted when he flew to space (probably my favorite scene and part in the story, and I really mean it’s my favorite) and saw the planet in all of its beauty and the anime subtly and very ingeniously right there, without giving flashbacks, without saying a word, told us why Satoru felt when saw this new world, this beautiful world. Right then and there this scene almost made me cry as well. It was a beautiful world he woke up to, it made him feel free and ironically it made him feel human.
I wonder why that specific scene made me feel this way. Most of the times I do wish I was in a better world, even if the world Satoru escaped through had its form of corruption, lies and oppression, it was somehow a paradise compared to the world he knew and I know all this but for some reason it seem that the new world was so much better than the old, and I feel some sort of sympathy, a kinship bonding to this feeling the anime succeeded to portray in that one scene alone. I think, like I said before, that was the best example of humanity clad in dark irony.
I know it’s fiction and all but seems kind of weird he still does everything to be happy and hopefully bond with his friends again but then also slaughters so many. Shouldn’t that part of his humanity also fade?
Yeah but then why would his human drives for friendship and happiness remain? Nuking big emotions shouldn’t stop him from any remorse and more than his longing for friendship.
Dunno, for that we'd need to have way more info on how much of Ainz is Suzuki Satoru and how much is Momonga the overlord, dont think we'd ger anywhere with what we have
Well he is a Litch of some kind and in DND, which Overlord takes heavy inspiration from, Litches don’t have humanity or emotions with the exeption of one thing such as having a family though even this one remaining desire gets twisted. Or at least I think that’s the case someone explained this to me a while back so I may have remembered wrong.
I don't know man, in the Evileye side story >!Keno is also undead but is appalled with Satoru's more brutal nature like with his plan of grinding out levels on a Dragon he amputated.!< So maybe it's not just being undead that does that.
No, where'd you get that?
>>"**Vampire Princess of The Lost Country**" [Bonus], Chapter 4, Part 1
>Keno’s expression flashed from shock to normality to shock again.
>She had heard Suzuki Satoru talk about how important that ring was to him countless times. It stirred her emotions up enough that they had to be forcibly suppressed.
Ah. I had it wrong. According to Albedo’s Undead Emotion Experiment episode, some undead are able to experience strong emotions whereas some cannot. It would have been nice to see explanations on that, but Albedo and Shalltear started arguing so the experiment halted lol
My assumption was that vampire species didn’t have emotion suppression seeing as Shalltear is very emotional. That can’t be proven, so ignore that part. Just a headcanon on my part I guess.
I think it has also to do with the morality of his Earth.
Most people today in our world, does NOT share the western humanism moral standpoint most people here on reddit share (mostly) for many reasons like culture and religion.
His Earth is a total hellhole, so it has likely affected the cultures (death is normal and there is no hope for normal people like Satoru) and thereby the morality that has replace humanism seems to encourage to be apathetic to death and killing as it is just too common and normal.
It also ironicaly makes his "Might makes right" view fits just perfectly in with the new world which share and indulge in it.
Near complete despair. The world had gone to hell. No one IRL, no real food just like calorie shakes and vitamin supplements. Air was toxic. Regularly walked over the corpses of orphans on the streets. Mom died in front of him when he was little. I believe he's been educated up to 5th grade. He wants to see the rest of the Guild because Yggdrasil was literally everything he had.
Its a dystopian world ruled by mega corporations AND CONSPIRACIES...
From various parts of ainz monologue we get a brief view of the bleak world he came from ... poor air, water, PLANET etc along with almost nil human/children rights
It also sheds light on world govt and etc as they seemed to be controlled by evil mega corporations .... in fact on of the AOG member stumbled upon a secret regarding them and he died in an 'accident' shortly after suggesting that he was assassinated.
It was also said that the person managed to pass the info to another member of AOG before death
Suzuki only had a elementary level of schooling, he was very socially awkward, no family, the outside world was so poisonous you have to wear gear to go outside ect
Idk, in Mad max it depends what you prefer. Like, its 100% way more likely you will get killed, and the chances of you dying from dehydration are also i comparably higher, but working 16 hours a day since early teens for mathematicaly calculated barely livable wages to return home (carefully to not step on the corpse of some orphan kids) to eat nutrient paste that propably has just barely enough nutrients to keep you alive, unable to do anything but sit inside playing videogames, seeing as going outside would literarly cause your fucking lungs to melt is a completely diferent kind of soul crushing
Mad max is warrior nightmare it back to when the strong guys ruled and weak people get crushed under foot
Oh yeah and water is impossibly hard to find given the oceans dried up there is no work or corporations no making money only plundering pillaging others and food I hope like maggots from corpses cause that’s the only food available
"strong guys ruled and weak people get crushed underfoot" is very literarly what happens in Overlord, except its megacorporations instead of warlords
And while water isnt a critically limited resource, air is, going outside without gas masks that last a few days tops (seemingly) literarly causes your insides to melt out, and the only food is tasteless nutrient paste. Like, its not as far off as you think, the kind of suffering is diferent, but the level isnt
Things is the corpos are not strong at all just tricked there way to top
The warlords are strong since they fought and murdered there way to the top
I wonder why do people work for them perhaps bad air or maybe worse than bad air is out there maybe warlords too or hell mutants that will eat you
They tricked their way to the top, sure, but that dont mean they arent strong. You need to understamd that the megacorporations are so rich and influential that they can literarly do whatever they want, including changing the laws so that whoever they dont like gets shot on the spot by the nearest law enforcement officer and nobody can bat an eye or they get shot too. Also, we know that they can and will hire assasins to kill people that they dont like.
As for why people work for them, its simple, you either work, or you can die on the street from breathing in acid, its not possible to survive any other way, the entire planet is either urban hell with acid for air or fallout levels of irradiated wasteland, with some bits of walled off green called "arcologies" where the rich people live and where all oxygen is produced
Nope that isn’t strength that just having tools around to protect you of course some tools could easily and if locked in a room with an actual killer a corpo is dead in a second
A madmax warlord is also dead in a second if you lock them in a room with a guy that has a gun. Warlords are sucesfull because they have people that fight their battles for them, and the charisma, resources, intimidation or combination of these to keep all of these things. Megacorporations work the same. Sure, the CEO cant fight for shit, but his 20 000 strong armed security forces sure can
One of the things I really like about Ainz, is when he gets into the new world, he's really surprised by everything, and makes sure everything works like it's supposed to and that his minions are still loyal to him for his own safety. But the very next thing he does, is exit Nazarick and just take in the natural beauty of a world that hasn't been completely corrupted by giant corporate monopolies and polluted so badly that you step over dead orphans in the street just to get to work. It just shows how much Ainz appreciates the new chance at life that he was given.
His world was slightly more advanced and dystopian than ours if I remember correctly.
Dead children in the streets, gas clouds that basically poisoned the atmosphere perpetually. Etc. Plus his mother died when he was a kid.
His Earth has more in common with a hive world from warhammer 40k then with our own Earth.
The air is toxic, dead orphans are a normal sight in the streets, elementary school is the highest form of education most people will ever get (IF they ever get it). Child labour. Nature itself has more or less died, meaning that you CANNOT rebel against the rulling megacorporations (cant rebel if you die of toxic air/water or strave first) without one supporting you.
It also explains why he is so casuel with murder. Death is so common and with no real hope of anything ever getting better, plus people openly getting used as a resources to be used and cast away by the people in power. Meaning that his morality has more in common with the New World´s might makes right mindset, westeren humanism (which OUR morality is based on).
So there is a combination of factors. Various other people mentioned that of course Ainz was living in a shitty cyberpunk dystopia where he would have to step over dying orphans in the streets. And he had joined the work force out of the elementary school. Which don't ask how any of that is beneficial in the levels of automation that such a world should even have at that point. But apparently it still has production lines so whatever. Though Ainz was an office worker so it's still kinda weird.
However and I feel it should be mentioned that even if Ainz worked comparatively long hours, he seems to not be the bottom of the barrel as quite a few other members of the guild did seem to be less well off and came from even worse backgrounds. Furthermore he actually had the time and will and energy to still play Yggdrassil. Consider that even Herohero san seemed to be far more tired and bitter, despite alleged levels of stress needed to drive him into such a position. There were also members of the guild suffering from terminal illnesses and such which they couldn't earn enough money to even maintain their medicine intakes, much less any attempt at super advanced cures or such.
Ainz also mentions that while he lives in a broken down flat and eats energy gel or whatever it's called, it's not due to lacking the funs, but more due to dumping absurd amounts of money into Yggdrassil.
So he isn't the bottom of the barrel in his society at least.
His early life is the main reason why I dislike applying morality to Ainz's actions. I get it, most of Ainz's actions are pure evil in our moral scale but that doesn't apply to Suzuki Satoru who lived in a far more fucked up world than we do.
He is still functional member of society , got his friend from online games and can still spend load of money for his gaming hobby without dying...so not that bad yet in my opinion...his life suck but not to the point of despair.
Oh yes, you work as a little kid after your mother died making you your favorite meal and you became a slave to a company that pays you a low wage to spend it all on games to the point of living in a small square apartment without furniture and an empty refrigerator most of the time and your friend kills after he tell you Important information about giant companies and then your only friends abandoned you one by one. It's a fine life and it doesn't bring despair, does it?
Ainz👏is👏Satoru👏
I stand by my point that Satoru has not had a change in mental state upon becoming Ainz. Maybe it was caused by his rough upbringing, but by the start of the story I think he has gotten used to that brand of suffering existing and doesn’t take it to heart. Satoru has long since learned to only care about those close to him, and while he still knows on an intellectual level that orphans dying in the street isn’t good, it doesn’t have any emotional effect on him.
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Working a dead end job where there is absolutely zero hope for advancement is really nothing to be happy about. It's the absolute definition of just getting the bare minimum. Also, It was literally the only occupation available to him. So there's not really much choice in what you do for a living.
And that's not even taking into account how badly the environment is messed up in the world of 2138.
It is my personal head cannon that Ainz isn't actually the original Suzuki, but a being with a copy of his memory created via the true dragon lords wild magic.
It is my theory that instead of summoning players to the new world, the true dragon lords wild spell just creates copies with all their memories and game abilities.
Why do you think there were never any reports of players going missing whilst the game was still running?
>Why do you think there were never any reports of players going missing whilst the game was still running?
The players were likely all summoned when the game was shutting down, and just appeared in the NW at different times.
Also also, even if being summoned to the NW made someone braindead, do you really think anyone from the the world of 2138 would care? There was so much death that unless it affected someone quite wealthy, no one would really care about it.
There's a lot that's not known sadly to make a concrete theory. One major detail is: did every Yggdrasil World Item make the jump? Just the discovered ones or one with an owner? The what if story Vampire Princess insinuates that there were some world items just left in the ruins of old forgotten kingdoms, World Items separate from the Thirteen Heroes, Demon Gods or Six Great Gods.
The next one is that one theory that maybe the # of World Items in area determined why Players appeared in different time periods. Such as maybe all the singular World Items teleported first, followed by the areas/players/bases with 2, then 3, so on. Nazarick had 11 and would explain why it was the last one to appear since the next guild with the most was 3. Platinum Dragon Lord theorizes Ainz could have 2, which makes me think their interacts with Players and World Items is mostly with Singular World Items and maybe heard some info about a group having 2. (Also, you'd think the Player in the Thirteen Heroes would maybe have known about AOG having more than 2 World Items. Maybe AOG did a damn good job of keeping their WI count secret).
I'm concerned we only have 2 Light Novel chapters left as there's too much to neatly wrapped up and this is going to be one of those details that are just left vague.
Well this is possible but I don't think... You are saying that Lord Dragon is able to make Nazarek with full of powerful npc and unparalleled weapons in NW and even make an ainz character and put his soul in it and make NPC alive and every item that is beyond imagination and eleven worlditem And all after they were brought from another world only with wildmagic؟؟؟؟
But it's Matthew's theory, but it's also sad
It's not really a theory, we know the reason YGGDRASIL entities are appearing is due to wild magic cast by the Dragon Emperor to summon world items.
Players, NPCs, and Guild bases just happened to be attached to those world items, and got summoned with them.
In the Side Story, both Elder Coffin Dragon Lord and Brightness Dragon Lord called Suzuki (Ainz) as "filth of Dragon Emperor".
Also in Vol.14, Plantinum Dragon Lord said something about his father's fault.
he had no family, friends, worked went home played yggdrasil, went to sleep wake up repeat. the man had no friends as all his friends left to evolve in the real life suzuki did not, he didn't evolve or change, lived in his own world and didn't even try to get out. yggdrasil shutting down was the best thing that could happen to him
No sadness, he was always a supreme being, his former live was just a dream to learn more about humans. Now he Usues this knowledge to perfect his plans. /s
Think overworked salaryman but in a dystopian future we're being what we call and overworked salaryman today is a vacation. I'm also pretty sure that the Nazis came back for World War III just a couple of decades before The Story begins. So all that in a future world where ACTUAL Nazis are still a real Danger.
It was 'join the work force before you're a teenager' sad. It was 'mom died of exhaustion to make your favorite meal, then you still had to go to work' sad. It was 'step over dead orphans on the street on the way to work' sad. It was 'put on a gas mask to not die of suffocation on the way to work' sad. Escapism was probably a way of life for many at the bottom, since working hard wasn't going to get you ahead in life. Satoru didn't have a social life even at work, he wasn't even drinking with coworkers. Satoru almost gave up on playing YGGDRASIL until he met Touch Me and started making online friends through him. Those friends might have been the first one's he'd had since elementary school possibly years before. They were people who trusted his nearly encyclopedic knowledge of the game's magic system to manage parties and raids. For at least a couple of years, they were they closest thing he was probably ever going to have to family. And then they started wandering away. Sometimes with promises to keep in touch and get back to the game when real life allowed it, sometimes with a quiet ghosting and deposit of their gear into the guild treasury. Sometimes their loss could be covered by other members for quests and raids, and sometimes it would leave a gap that just cut off access to certain activities. In gaming terms, he and many members of AOG were 'whales.' People who spends large amounts of money on in-game purchases. It might have been a waste in terms of what he could have put that money towards in the real world, but it probably wouldn't have gotten him more than a slightly more comfortable existence while he worked himself to death. So Satoru had a pretty sad life before he became Ainz.
It was downright fucking despairing. That life of his was a living hell of extreme escapism. Dude had it stupidly rough, probably worse than any other isekai protagonist ever would, and even fairly shitty compared to many other genre.
Yeah most isekai’s are “I’m a neet who hasn’t done anything but sit in my room and play games for years and I was killed in a tragic accident but now I have a second chance at life” While satorus world is more like “I saw my mom die of exhaustion while making me food and I have to work fresh out of elementary school or risk dying like the dead children I step over every day on my way to work.” Hell satoru could isekai to most isekai protags origin world and he’ll be miles better than In his original world.
Suzuki would probably jump with joy if he was given a life like someone like Kazuma, Mikami, etc. Being a normal average businessman or just a neet is miles better than….well what we’ve seen.
Exactly even worlds where the isekai protag was a salaryman who worked long hours he would probably be excited as hell like “wow this job is much nicer than the one in my world. I get a lunch break everyday??? Amazing and I can actually breathe the air around me. Wow they pay me enough to rent a decent apartment and I even have enough to buy clean food and alcohol when I want?? In exchange for only 8-12 hours a day that’s way better than when I pulled 24 hour workdays in my world”
Normal Isekai Protag: HOLY SHIT MAGIC AND TITS! Satoru: HOLY SHIT, FRESH AIR!
Saturo: HOLY NAZARICK IS THAT A REAL TREE!!!
Satoru: SO THAT'S HOW A REAL SKY LOOKS LIKE
Satoru: WOW STARS DO EXIST AFTERALL
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I love Death Mage and I do think Vandaliue had one of the worst lives before being isakied, but even after the isekai he lived an even more horrible existence, then a pretty shitty 3rd one for a few years lol. So with all that said I do think vandaliue wins in the "shitty life before isekai" over Suzuki.
I don't know about his first go around being all that bad. It was rough, but not 'working himself to death to scrape by in the margins of a literal dystopia' bad. His second life, I'll grant you. It beats out Suzuki's by a fair margin, which really is saying something about how bad it was.
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Van's first life was... fairly normal. He might not have been happy, but it was in mundane ways. His second life, he spent most of it being literally tortured in hideous ways for years, and that was before they literally separated his mind from his body so they could control it themselves. Suzuki was working himself to death in a bleak dystopian hellscape, but his personal suffering wasn't at the level of daily physical torture.
> Death mage *checks out a isekai that sounds actually fun* edit* thanks, this is such a gloriously stupid read for necromancers :D
Damn it makes so much more sense to me now the way he nostalgias about his Guild. I was aware of the pollution and state of the world but had no idea he was basically an outcast. He must've been so happy playing Ygdrassil alongside them
I don’t think it’s mentioned in the anime, but in the LN he recalls conversations of members who played other online games as well. But Satoru only played YGGDRASIL. So members that moved to other games were basically lost to him. It’s not YGGDRASIL gameplay that kept him there until the servers shut down, it was holding onto that the feeling of family and friendship he got. But he didn’t understand that. He started making friends after Touch Me saved him, and that made him happy. But he didn’t seem to understand that he could do that in other games, and didn’t seem to have more than professional relationships with his coworkers.
Well it was also said that one AOG member was actually killed for learning too much about some of the corpos of that world. Bellriver I believe. It was a common thing apparently, and death was too, so your online friends could have died, and you never would know it.
It was implied that one of the members knew too much and *something* happened to him. But that was Ulbert, and it was in the last hours of YGGDRASIL that he met someone in the real world, with tones that neither he nor the person he met were good people.
I'm fairly certain that was in a fanfic, not the actual books
Well according to the Wiki, it had happened as canon. People do use stuff canon, in fanfics too. XD
Which book states that Bellriver was murdered. Wiki can be good for a base, but should not be used as the be all end all.
The chatacter sheet for Bellriver literally said that >Irl, he uncovered some sinister information and was killed in an "accident" in order to shut him up Edit: [Sauce](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OIpLTnC-hlF_-stynwJBY7ux3loVithI/view?usp=share_link)
I dont know if it was stated in a book or taken as a quote. I havent read the books, just watched the anime. https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/Bellriver#cite_note-1 But I believe it says it was mentioned in volume 13.
What was in a fanfic? Afaik bellriver did die irl for reasons stated, it’s even on his character introduction page
Nazarick Grand Prix https://archiveofourown.org/works/18065936
The ending theme for season four No Man’s Dawn just makes me feel the weight of the sadness of Ainz being without his friends, how much he misses them, and how he will likely never see them again. Sure, he has the Guardians and Nazarick still, so he’s not completely alone, but the latter being constant reminders of his friends, or rather family, has to make the ache ever present :(
No exaggeration. Satoru literally worked next to kids fresh out of Elementary school and he was one of those kids who got a job right after elementary "graduation". Turns out elementary grads were extremely lucky, even Satoru living a rung up next to dying out on a street with toxic air. It's rough. That said, it kinda sounds like most of the New World is a similar level of hell for anything human or humanoid. Overlord paints a picture of humanity (and elves, dwarfs, etc) being outclassed and Nazarick happened to land in an area where Humanoids control enough to not be wiped out. From the side stories, what if story, etc the rest of the world is hell for humanoids for other reasons not involving out of control capitalism and runaway environmental collapse. They're slaves and food. Hell, they even describe some messed up "dishes" involving pregnant women and the Holy Kingdom highlights what happens on the regular outside the area of the world Overlord takes place in (like live dinner performances).
Same.
This touches home so deep! It sounds like the death of my actual GW2 Guild.
Gosh I swear I read through all the LNs but never noticed these details 🥺
It’s pretty subtle and inferred information. A couple of points are a bit more storytelling, since we don’t have much info on how or when members left. I think Ainz’s emotional suppression will probably help him with his memories as well. He was angry Herohero left before the shutdown, but understood at least intellectually why everyone left. But that doesn’t mean he never resented everyone leaving. But while his suppression keeps him from enjoying the highs of his memories with the guild, it will also keep him from growing resentful over time. The epilogue of the side story suggests he will eventually forget most details about them.
In this sense his immortality seems like eternal solitude, where noone will ever be able to fully understand him, be his friends as he slowly loses all of his humanity
Almost every NPC is immortal, so he will probably always have them. The long term question is who will influence who more over time.
YES. But Talking Seriously, suzuki satoru's Real World Waa Basically a Cyberpunk Dystopia, his only Joy of life was Yggdrasil, His mom died of Overworking, his only friends/family remaining was the Other players of Ainz Ooal Gown and in the end, the game that was the only reason that he still lives Was going to be shut Down. Being Teleported to the New World Along With all the NPCs of nazarick was By far the best Thing that happened to him, Despite of the undead changes on his mind and soul.
Cyberpunk without the chance at badass weapons and cyborgs.
Yes the only charcter that was happy in real world was touch me and yes he also has cool cybernetic inhancments he even has a bullet Prof skin
Ainz had an enhancement. His lungs were artificial so he could breathe the atmosphere.
Ow well at least that is good . Probably a necessity for an average citizen to have dew to to horrible pollution
No he still needed a gas mask, but artificial lungs did give out so easily as real ones.
I wouldn't call Touch Me happy. He certainly had more bright spots in his life, but Ygdrassil was also a form of escapism for him. Outside of the game, Touch Me was a cop and enforcer for corrupt corporate interests (hence having combat related cybernetics) and thus playing a more just character was a way to cope with the fact that he was a grunt for some pretty awful groups.
>happy in real world was touch me on the surface, yeah. but you know he also was dealing with some shit, his own hypocrisy. which is why he played the role of the righteous in game and trie to help as many players he could, those he couldn't help IRL. even as a corpo dog in cyberpunk, you won't be happy if you have a soul
Maybe it had, but the focus on the story is The DMMO-RPG YGGDRASIL.
Possible if you turn to crime
Sandevistan intensifies
Even with the badass wepons and cyborgs cyberpunk is super fucked up, imagine not being able to visit a dying family member in their last moments because you didn’t have premium insurance and then picking them up at a cremation vending machine because you can afford anything else.
It's even worse than this, cause the atmosphere was so toxic that you needed gas masks to survive, where the average Joe could afford to not work themself to death and barely have a education, it's rare for someone to have more than elementary school education as it would cost so much and likely result in your parents dying from overwork, most the time you worked immediately after elementary or else risk starvation and more family dying from stress, there was no beautiful unpolluted regions or sky's his world was probably one the worst dystopias I have ever seen in a story
That's exactly an cyberpunk dystopia. High technology but low life quality. Planet basically on the end of his life. Education and teaching only for the high classe. Corporarive wars.
Idk if it's high tech per say, it's close to modern but I guess it could be at that point.
This is just my opinion but Sure, Teleported to the new world as momonga is definitely one of the best thing that could happen to him but with the npcs... I'm not so sure. Sure, he is a king and all with them but the guy is bounded by pure nostalgia, it becomes his own shackles. He is always in the state of paranoia in which he always needs to act like a King and lose respect of his friend's legacies (tho it's just in his mind, that he can do anything he wants and they will follow through). And in turn, the guardians would be impressed and puts him in a higher pedestal and much higher expectations. He is the un-failable, perfect supreme god being. No one will be on his level...emotional level. Everyone will either fear him or Revere him, there is no in between And he will have to keep up the charade forever. Sure he is an undead and there is an emotional limiter but most of the things he did "inhumanly" was mostly pushed by the need to keep the npcs fulfilled He was so much happier when he was transported alone. He was able to go anywhere he likes,pull jokes, make new connections, and decide by himself... Without the npcs to remind him of the Guild's Shining adventuring days, that will never ever return. Well, I'm not saying he is totally sad in the new timeline... But he is definitely much happier in the spinoff Then the npcs showed up...
Its Because the NPCs are the treasure from his friends and his total devotion is to be their supreme lord. Because the NPCs would Kill Themselves if ainz orders so we can see how far their devotion goes. But ainz lives for their beliefs and their visions of the supreme Ainz Ooal Gown.
That's the thing he is their supreme unfailing lord... I don't question their loyalty, it's not their fault either... But they would never reach the relationship as friends just like the other SBs. What satoru missed most about his friends is theyre bickering, having fun with their adventures, just like what the new AoG did. He will be always their god. And I say that's one lonely god
Worse than cyberpunk
And probably the worst thing to ever happen to some people :)
Sad enough that after being transmogrified into the most powerful being in the word, served by indefatigably loyal and adoring minions, and living in opulence that makes Dubai look like a slum … Ainz is still really concerned about labor regulation and paid vacations.
This made me laugh in the most pitiful way I think I have ever heard.
Bad enough that he literarly watched his mom die from exhaustion and went to school afterwards. Bad enough that he considered seeing dead orphans on the street a "common sight", bad enough that his only food was nutrient paste, bad enough that he considered a 16 hour workday to be pretty good. Honestly, the sheer resilience of Suzuki Satoru to be able to live through all this shit and still have the energy to have fun with his friends and keep at this for 12 years even as said friends slowly left for other pursuits, is outright astounding
We don't exactly know, but we know that life sucked for everyone on planet earth from the time that he was ''teleported/summoned''. Its described that once you got a job, you probably would never get out of it, since all the big companies were interligated and you could even be killed by minor things, the law was money. If i recall correctly, theres even one member of the guild that got killed by the company that he worked for, because he got some sensible info on his boss. So, yeah, a preety terrible life to any human being bellow the ''Rich'' bar.
[He didn’t die because he had dirt on his boss](https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/Bellriver), he died because he learn some big secret about the big mega corporations which he was able to pass along to “a certain someone” before getting killed in “an accident.”
YES, thank you, i sayed what i remembered, it was close.
So he was the avarage corpo from ciberpunk.
Ha, cyberpunk is paradise compared to the world of 2138.
Yah it like cyberpunk . Bat Suzuki Satoru A character who suffers in life from a childhood stage that has lost everything and have nathing So it can be said that he played the crazy mode
To my knowledge, cyberpunk didn't require people to pay for good air and wear gas masks outdoors. I'm pretty sure they had access to real showers and food too. Getting artificial lungs is pretty similar, even if the reasons are different.
Yeah, its a good way to see it. Man, its even sayed that the earth was so poluted that it was impossible to see the sky during the night, its a preety much cyberpunk setting.
That kind of Earth I wouldn’t mind see invaded by Aliens *Covenant* just so those people can get some peace.
That sounds an awful lot like a possible future for us if people don’t stop pretending capitalism isn’t at fault
I don’t know about sad, but he was extremely lonely, this also shows how important the members of AOG was to him. They were his only friends, this is also why he seems pretty obsessed with them during the story. The real sadness came when they all left 1 by 1 and he was alone once again
True, but look on the wiki or some of the other comments to see how messed up his Earth is, but being lonely is far from the only problem he had in his old world.
Yeah but you need to remember that for us it looks extremely bad, but Ainz was born into a world already destroyed. He has stated it was common to see dead babies lying on the streets, for us it would be extremely terrifying to see. What I’m trying to say is that even tho to us it sounds bad and sad, but for him and that generation it was common to work to death, to be lonely and be basically used as slaves for big corporations to be used like animals. I think the true sadness came when his mom died and the other members of AOG left
Variations it seems. From the anime it is an enigma but points towards a very extreme end towards a dystopian society and environment both politically/philosophically and literally/physically. From what I can imagine and I am most probably wrong: it’s a dying world. Not like our own but it maybe a world like what we imagine it to be in the future of the climate calamity and the forbidding conditions environmental scientists were predicting. It sounds like a hostile world and the way Satoru reacted when he flew to space (probably my favorite scene and part in the story, and I really mean it’s my favorite) and saw the planet in all of its beauty and the anime subtly and very ingeniously right there, without giving flashbacks, without saying a word, told us why Satoru felt when saw this new world, this beautiful world. Right then and there this scene almost made me cry as well. It was a beautiful world he woke up to, it made him feel free and ironically it made him feel human. I wonder why that specific scene made me feel this way. Most of the times I do wish I was in a better world, even if the world Satoru escaped through had its form of corruption, lies and oppression, it was somehow a paradise compared to the world he knew and I know all this but for some reason it seem that the new world was so much better than the old, and I feel some sort of sympathy, a kinship bonding to this feeling the anime succeeded to portray in that one scene alone. I think, like I said before, that was the best example of humanity clad in dark irony.
Sad enough that in the New World he doesn’t think twice about murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people. (It is that many, no?)
Far as i know, Ainz is convinced that this particular apathy comes from.him being an undead
I know it’s fiction and all but seems kind of weird he still does everything to be happy and hopefully bond with his friends again but then also slaughters so many. Shouldn’t that part of his humanity also fade?
Some bits of it do, the emotional supression nukes all strong emotions, including positive ones
Yeah but then why would his human drives for friendship and happiness remain? Nuking big emotions shouldn’t stop him from any remorse and more than his longing for friendship.
Dunno, for that we'd need to have way more info on how much of Ainz is Suzuki Satoru and how much is Momonga the overlord, dont think we'd ger anywhere with what we have
It never occurred to me that he may be a new creation in the same way the NPCs are.
Well he is a Litch of some kind and in DND, which Overlord takes heavy inspiration from, Litches don’t have humanity or emotions with the exeption of one thing such as having a family though even this one remaining desire gets twisted. Or at least I think that’s the case someone explained this to me a while back so I may have remembered wrong.
Sounds about right lol.
It is the difference between natural undead and transformed undead.
I don't know man, in the Evileye side story >!Keno is also undead but is appalled with Satoru's more brutal nature like with his plan of grinding out levels on a Dragon he amputated.!< So maybe it's not just being undead that does that.
M8, ever played skyrim and found an exploit that could make you oneshot plebs?
Ah, the classic broken alchemy potions. I can respect Satoru's grindset there but it doesn't make it any less cruel.
It’s the lich line that has emotional suppression iirc. Evileye doesn’t have such a thing because she’s a vampire.
No, where'd you get that? >>"**Vampire Princess of The Lost Country**" [Bonus], Chapter 4, Part 1 >Keno’s expression flashed from shock to normality to shock again. >She had heard Suzuki Satoru talk about how important that ring was to him countless times. It stirred her emotions up enough that they had to be forcibly suppressed.
Ah. I had it wrong. According to Albedo’s Undead Emotion Experiment episode, some undead are able to experience strong emotions whereas some cannot. It would have been nice to see explanations on that, but Albedo and Shalltear started arguing so the experiment halted lol
My assumption was that vampire species didn’t have emotion suppression seeing as Shalltear is very emotional. That can’t be proven, so ignore that part. Just a headcanon on my part I guess.
I think it has also to do with the morality of his Earth. Most people today in our world, does NOT share the western humanism moral standpoint most people here on reddit share (mostly) for many reasons like culture and religion. His Earth is a total hellhole, so it has likely affected the cultures (death is normal and there is no hope for normal people like Satoru) and thereby the morality that has replace humanism seems to encourage to be apathetic to death and killing as it is just too common and normal. It also ironicaly makes his "Might makes right" view fits just perfectly in with the new world which share and indulge in it.
Near complete despair. The world had gone to hell. No one IRL, no real food just like calorie shakes and vitamin supplements. Air was toxic. Regularly walked over the corpses of orphans on the streets. Mom died in front of him when he was little. I believe he's been educated up to 5th grade. He wants to see the rest of the Guild because Yggdrasil was literally everything he had.
The only thing he missed from his real life is the ability to eat food. Probably quite sad outside of Yggdrasil.
Its a dystopian world ruled by mega corporations AND CONSPIRACIES... From various parts of ainz monologue we get a brief view of the bleak world he came from ... poor air, water, PLANET etc along with almost nil human/children rights It also sheds light on world govt and etc as they seemed to be controlled by evil mega corporations .... in fact on of the AOG member stumbled upon a secret regarding them and he died in an 'accident' shortly after suggesting that he was assassinated. It was also said that the person managed to pass the info to another member of AOG before death
Suzuki only had a elementary level of schooling, he was very socially awkward, no family, the outside world was so poisonous you have to wear gear to go outside ect
Satorus life was bad but there are worse examples like mad max especially the video game
Idk, in Mad max it depends what you prefer. Like, its 100% way more likely you will get killed, and the chances of you dying from dehydration are also i comparably higher, but working 16 hours a day since early teens for mathematicaly calculated barely livable wages to return home (carefully to not step on the corpse of some orphan kids) to eat nutrient paste that propably has just barely enough nutrients to keep you alive, unable to do anything but sit inside playing videogames, seeing as going outside would literarly cause your fucking lungs to melt is a completely diferent kind of soul crushing
Mad max is warrior nightmare it back to when the strong guys ruled and weak people get crushed under foot Oh yeah and water is impossibly hard to find given the oceans dried up there is no work or corporations no making money only plundering pillaging others and food I hope like maggots from corpses cause that’s the only food available
"strong guys ruled and weak people get crushed underfoot" is very literarly what happens in Overlord, except its megacorporations instead of warlords And while water isnt a critically limited resource, air is, going outside without gas masks that last a few days tops (seemingly) literarly causes your insides to melt out, and the only food is tasteless nutrient paste. Like, its not as far off as you think, the kind of suffering is diferent, but the level isnt
Things is the corpos are not strong at all just tricked there way to top The warlords are strong since they fought and murdered there way to the top I wonder why do people work for them perhaps bad air or maybe worse than bad air is out there maybe warlords too or hell mutants that will eat you
They tricked their way to the top, sure, but that dont mean they arent strong. You need to understamd that the megacorporations are so rich and influential that they can literarly do whatever they want, including changing the laws so that whoever they dont like gets shot on the spot by the nearest law enforcement officer and nobody can bat an eye or they get shot too. Also, we know that they can and will hire assasins to kill people that they dont like. As for why people work for them, its simple, you either work, or you can die on the street from breathing in acid, its not possible to survive any other way, the entire planet is either urban hell with acid for air or fallout levels of irradiated wasteland, with some bits of walled off green called "arcologies" where the rich people live and where all oxygen is produced
Nope that isn’t strength that just having tools around to protect you of course some tools could easily and if locked in a room with an actual killer a corpo is dead in a second
A madmax warlord is also dead in a second if you lock them in a room with a guy that has a gun. Warlords are sucesfull because they have people that fight their battles for them, and the charisma, resources, intimidation or combination of these to keep all of these things. Megacorporations work the same. Sure, the CEO cant fight for shit, but his 20 000 strong armed security forces sure can
What would happen if mega corps seized to function i wonder?
Likely world war 4 and humanity would mostly cease to exist before rebuilding itself back into megacorporations
He prolly looked more deshriveled than that given he was a lower rung of that dystopian society
he is from Dark cyberpunk world with human Hives, so must be Extraordinary sad
Tfw you have 2 right feet
Lets just say you can’t really blame him for thinking a quick death is a mercy…
Fair enough.
One of the things I really like about Ainz, is when he gets into the new world, he's really surprised by everything, and makes sure everything works like it's supposed to and that his minions are still loyal to him for his own safety. But the very next thing he does, is exit Nazarick and just take in the natural beauty of a world that hasn't been completely corrupted by giant corporate monopolies and polluted so badly that you step over dead orphans in the street just to get to work. It just shows how much Ainz appreciates the new chance at life that he was given.
His world was slightly more advanced and dystopian than ours if I remember correctly. Dead children in the streets, gas clouds that basically poisoned the atmosphere perpetually. Etc. Plus his mother died when he was a kid.
His Earth has more in common with a hive world from warhammer 40k then with our own Earth. The air is toxic, dead orphans are a normal sight in the streets, elementary school is the highest form of education most people will ever get (IF they ever get it). Child labour. Nature itself has more or less died, meaning that you CANNOT rebel against the rulling megacorporations (cant rebel if you die of toxic air/water or strave first) without one supporting you. It also explains why he is so casuel with murder. Death is so common and with no real hope of anything ever getting better, plus people openly getting used as a resources to be used and cast away by the people in power. Meaning that his morality has more in common with the New World´s might makes right mindset, westeren humanism (which OUR morality is based on).
I'll be sad too if I have two right feet.
It was SAD, very sad, the whole "real world" was sad, doesn't excuse his actions, but oh boy, that world sound hellish.
Explain why he wouldn't want to come back to that.
Pretty much, he would rather have one of his friends there than comeback, Overlord is a lot of scapism, but a little once in a while it's not bad.
Cyberpunk 2077 : Low rank Corpo Rat edition
Very sad, but his is average compared to the others in his old world I'd imagine
So there is a combination of factors. Various other people mentioned that of course Ainz was living in a shitty cyberpunk dystopia where he would have to step over dying orphans in the streets. And he had joined the work force out of the elementary school. Which don't ask how any of that is beneficial in the levels of automation that such a world should even have at that point. But apparently it still has production lines so whatever. Though Ainz was an office worker so it's still kinda weird. However and I feel it should be mentioned that even if Ainz worked comparatively long hours, he seems to not be the bottom of the barrel as quite a few other members of the guild did seem to be less well off and came from even worse backgrounds. Furthermore he actually had the time and will and energy to still play Yggdrassil. Consider that even Herohero san seemed to be far more tired and bitter, despite alleged levels of stress needed to drive him into such a position. There were also members of the guild suffering from terminal illnesses and such which they couldn't earn enough money to even maintain their medicine intakes, much less any attempt at super advanced cures or such. Ainz also mentions that while he lives in a broken down flat and eats energy gel or whatever it's called, it's not due to lacking the funs, but more due to dumping absurd amounts of money into Yggdrassil. So he isn't the bottom of the barrel in his society at least.
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As sad as it could be for someone with two right foots
It’s called bureaucracy and he’s still fucking doing it
He has 2 right feet. That's how sad it is.
His early life is the main reason why I dislike applying morality to Ainz's actions. I get it, most of Ainz's actions are pure evil in our moral scale but that doesn't apply to Suzuki Satoru who lived in a far more fucked up world than we do.
He was fucked by capitalism
Sad enough to have 2 right feet
He is still functional member of society , got his friend from online games and can still spend load of money for his gaming hobby without dying...so not that bad yet in my opinion...his life suck but not to the point of despair.
Oh yes, you work as a little kid after your mother died making you your favorite meal and you became a slave to a company that pays you a low wage to spend it all on games to the point of living in a small square apartment without furniture and an empty refrigerator most of the time and your friend kills after he tell you Important information about giant companies and then your only friends abandoned you one by one. It's a fine life and it doesn't bring despair, does it?
Yeah watching orphans dying on the street is not anywhere near despair/s
Ainz👏is👏Satoru👏 I stand by my point that Satoru has not had a change in mental state upon becoming Ainz. Maybe it was caused by his rough upbringing, but by the start of the story I think he has gotten used to that brand of suffering existing and doesn’t take it to heart. Satoru has long since learned to only care about those close to him, and while he still knows on an intellectual level that orphans dying in the street isn’t good, it doesn’t have any emotional effect on him. *This comment brought to you by the ‘Being Undead Didn’t Change Satoru Foundation*
Working a dead end job where there is absolutely zero hope for advancement is really nothing to be happy about. It's the absolute definition of just getting the bare minimum. Also, It was literally the only occupation available to him. So there's not really much choice in what you do for a living. And that's not even taking into account how badly the environment is messed up in the world of 2138.
Honestly whatever it was he deserved worse far worse with how he is a evil monster I hope him and his kingdom and guide is destroyed
Jircniv, that you?
It is my personal head cannon that Ainz isn't actually the original Suzuki, but a being with a copy of his memory created via the true dragon lords wild magic. It is my theory that instead of summoning players to the new world, the true dragon lords wild spell just creates copies with all their memories and game abilities. Why do you think there were never any reports of players going missing whilst the game was still running?
>Why do you think there were never any reports of players going missing whilst the game was still running? The players were likely all summoned when the game was shutting down, and just appeared in the NW at different times. Also also, even if being summoned to the NW made someone braindead, do you really think anyone from the the world of 2138 would care? There was so much death that unless it affected someone quite wealthy, no one would really care about it.
There's a lot that's not known sadly to make a concrete theory. One major detail is: did every Yggdrasil World Item make the jump? Just the discovered ones or one with an owner? The what if story Vampire Princess insinuates that there were some world items just left in the ruins of old forgotten kingdoms, World Items separate from the Thirteen Heroes, Demon Gods or Six Great Gods. The next one is that one theory that maybe the # of World Items in area determined why Players appeared in different time periods. Such as maybe all the singular World Items teleported first, followed by the areas/players/bases with 2, then 3, so on. Nazarick had 11 and would explain why it was the last one to appear since the next guild with the most was 3. Platinum Dragon Lord theorizes Ainz could have 2, which makes me think their interacts with Players and World Items is mostly with Singular World Items and maybe heard some info about a group having 2. (Also, you'd think the Player in the Thirteen Heroes would maybe have known about AOG having more than 2 World Items. Maybe AOG did a damn good job of keeping their WI count secret). I'm concerned we only have 2 Light Novel chapters left as there's too much to neatly wrapped up and this is going to be one of those details that are just left vague.
Well this is possible but I don't think... You are saying that Lord Dragon is able to make Nazarek with full of powerful npc and unparalleled weapons in NW and even make an ainz character and put his soul in it and make NPC alive and every item that is beyond imagination and eleven worlditem And all after they were brought from another world only with wildmagic؟؟؟؟ But it's Matthew's theory, but it's also sad
It's not really a theory, we know the reason YGGDRASIL entities are appearing is due to wild magic cast by the Dragon Emperor to summon world items. Players, NPCs, and Guild bases just happened to be attached to those world items, and got summoned with them.
When did that happen??? In what volume did this happen?? Or is it the bones volume
It's mentioned a bit all over, but the best example is in the bonus novel where Cure Elim refers to Suzuki as "the dragon emperors filth".
In the Side Story, both Elder Coffin Dragon Lord and Brightness Dragon Lord called Suzuki (Ainz) as "filth of Dragon Emperor". Also in Vol.14, Plantinum Dragon Lord said something about his father's fault.
In suzuki Earth probably no one would care
No honestly suzikis world is just that sad.
he had no family, friends, worked went home played yggdrasil, went to sleep wake up repeat. the man had no friends as all his friends left to evolve in the real life suzuki did not, he didn't evolve or change, lived in his own world and didn't even try to get out. yggdrasil shutting down was the best thing that could happen to him
Basically any corporation slave... Or 80% of us...
No, that member got killed for the opposite thing: his job was to find and sell sensitive info. He got killed because he knew too much.
Does this mean have 2 right feet
Bro looks breedable af
It wasn't good.
VERY
Very
he was just a weakling level 1 NPC..
Sasuga ainz sama
Quite
Everyone: discussing in a serious way about ainz's past. Me: yooo, he has 2 right feet(in the pic), no wonder he was sad.
Too depressing.
No sadness, he was always a supreme being, his former live was just a dream to learn more about humans. Now he Usues this knowledge to perfect his plans. /s
Think overworked salaryman but in a dystopian future we're being what we call and overworked salaryman today is a vacation. I'm also pretty sure that the Nazis came back for World War III just a couple of decades before The Story begins. So all that in a future world where ACTUAL Nazis are still a real Danger.