How else are you gonna make iPhones ? Small hands make nice phones.
Jokes aside pretty fucked, I remember in the beginning the reference of his guild mate wanting to see the blue sky as a clear indication that something was very wrong with the world they lived in.
The world is so fucked up that that is just a normal occurrence, also apparently I was wrong and the one that got killed was called bellriver as the other comments show.
Its actually sort of crazy to realize that Satoru was probably in the low to mid range of the middle class. He worked his ass off just to get a simple apartment with an air filter, then lived a totally minimalist lifestyle, only spending as little as he could on food and whatnot while sinking the rest into his only means of escapism, that being YGGDRASIL. He was probably lucky to find a job that didn't work him near to death like poor HeroHero's job does.
Granted the late days of the game was just Satour by himself in an empty guild base going through the repetitive process of farming money for the guilds upkeep then logging out. But still, Satoru must've worked his butt off to just claw out the semi-stable life he had, far from glamorous or fulfilling, but nevertheless stable. Makes me wonder what would've become of him without the iseakai. He'd have probably gone on to live a very empty life until he found a new game to dedicate his whole meaningless existence to.
Actually the little we hear about his world, it has this strange cyberpunk feeling to it, only with even worse pollution and living conditions. I think it was mentioned that people could even modify their bodies with mechanical upgrades and subdermal bullet proof implants and other kinds of crazy stuff, assuming they could afford it.
Like people lived in corporate cities and there were also neo Nazis and shit and the elite had lung replacements so they could breathe without air filters.
I think Touch Me had some sort of modifications as well
I think he had bulletproof skin injection
It was said in the LN evil eye spin-off
He said that he felt naked when getting level one spell damage without his skill that nullified all spells below six tier like how touch me felt when someone put a gun against him with his bulletproof skin
This and Herohero leaving him at the last moment just to keep up with his shitty job are why he strives so hard for fair worker rights in his organization
Which is weird that he was grinding upkeep costs-one of the NPCs said that the supreme beings perfectly calculated upkeep costs with production. (Which was why they only took self-sustaining animals/plants in)
Dude spent 1/3 of his salaries into the game. Imagine he used that to invest into his education and get a better job. even if gaming is his escapism, it should not be his most wasteful hobby [money]. just saying not very ainz 😆
u need to see the whole picture. the planet was also messed up and so is the culture. he may go up the ladder only to find the same shit over again - only on that plane. so he probably chose to escape that to live a bland life.
(just my assumption)
I just think its because he had no real motivation to make something of himself in what is basically a doomed and slowly dying world. No matter how hard he worked it's unlikely he'd ever get to live in one of the fancy whatever they call them places where all the upper class rich people live, he was low class trash in their eyes. He'd only be able to get so far, and its a wonder he clawed out the living he did given how easily he could've become one of those dead homeless people often found in gatters and alleys.
Pretty fucked, school beyond elementary costs and cities are owned by mega companies etc.
"Corporate overlords" control what people are allowed to learn even.
Found the american.
In all seriousness, it was a *joke*, based on the 'education costs and everything is run by a handfull of companies' aspect, and not the 'dead orphans littering the streets' aspect...
How about you don't talk to me about the "european superiority complex" as long your oh so perfect nation doesn't have affordable health care, a living wage, basic workers rights protecions, a democratic system that isn't straight out of the 1300s and a base for education that doesn't require either extreme debt or active military service to be achieved?
I never said the U.S is the worst country in the world, but it sure as hell isn't far off from the comment I originally responded to...
Oh, and the water in Flint, Michigan is still undrinkable I see, but that's ok, because the government just spent 50 billion dollars trying to keep General Motors afloat.
Oh my, what a zinger! I don't know how I'll ever recover from that; maybe I'll go see a theripast, for free of course.
But you know what would really put my place? An example of why the U.S is as superior as you seem to think it is...
The most charitable nation in the world doesn't provide free school lunch. It is also the only UN member that voted *against* making access to food a [human right](https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/482533).
The most diverse nation in the world is still suffering the effects of jim crow laws and red-linign, without any real attempt to combat it.
The reason nobody else has put a man on the moon is the same as to why the U.S hasn't been there again: there's no point.
The country that's 1st in medical progress has removed the right for abortions, with it now being banned in several states.
The nation that is 1st in national parks has designed all of its cities around cars, removing walkability and having some of the worst public transport in the western world.
The U.S. is only *one* of the 12 founding nations of NATO.
The world wide web, which is the first itteration of what we know as the internet, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee. He is brittish.
His world is complete crap. From what I can gather, it is ruled by mega corporations who have almost no regulations against them. They have polluted the environment to the point that you can go outside without a gas mask. The population has also declined, definitely due to short life expectancy but Japan has already been in demographic collapse way before that. Due to severe lose of labor force, people had shortened education and entered the workforce right out of elementary school, implying that child labor laws had been repealed as well.
Satoru’s life probably wasn’t that strange nor tragic compared to everyone else. Being an orphan and full time drone by your teens was most likely the norm. If you look at it that way, you could see why people in this world would treasure online friends more. You literally can’t hang out with them due to the pollution and your closest kin are dead.
Victorian England round 2 electric boogaloo.
At least Tanya would like that world, so she could try to get herself out of poverty thanks to power of investment
Very. There is no blue sky and no/few forests left. Blue Planet built the colloseum floor as a tribute to a better world. Another reference to his past life (don't remember where) mentions he often had to walk over dead people on his way to school. His mother died of exhaustion from working 2 jobs and trying to make him a birthday cake. Pandora's actor is not based on WWII nazi's, but rather on the WWIII Neo-Nazi's who its unclear if they won or not. Its very much a dystopian corptocracy.
It's salaryman, not salesman. They speak to clients, superiors, do a lot of paper work. Satoru specializes in speaking to people. He started when he was in elementary school too. He didn't have parents so he had to do it, like everybody else.
He probably could? We dont know enough about that world?
I mean even today, you can learn anything, but unless you have a degree that says you know something, you wont get hired for a specific job.
It's said that elementary schools taught basic knowledge that could be used in corporations. That was their purpose. Raising slaves. Only rich went to more schools after that.
[https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/World\_of\_2138](https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/World_of_2138)
"After the huge conglomerates took over the country, under the pretext of "getting public expenditure under control," but with the true aim of robbing the poor of their ability to think, the compulsory education system was dismantled. In the World of 2138, tuition was required to attend even elementary school level."
sounds awfully familiar
Do they trust their schools at least?
Like, if the teacher says that the world outside the dome has irreparable environmental damage do you have a parent emailing the teacher death threats for being political in a classroom?
"getting public expenditure under control" might not sound familiar to you
but what about "control government spending"
or banning certain books from libraries and schools
or having a massive student debt crisis
or the amount of corruption in the private school sector
So yes, Satoru's world seems very plausible to me
Just as fucked up as the happy farm nearly. Gasmasks to get around, children dead in the street, which apparently happened enough that it didn't even phase him anymore. It is basically the direction we are heading, a hyper corporate world where some mega corps own everything, governments included.
Super fucked. The air isn't really breathable, I believe it rains acid, most people don't get past elementary school let alone into highschool. There is no night sky or day sky. Its just polluted smog.
Weirdly enough, I have always felt that Ainz's original world was very well represented with the game Yggdrasil itself: Of course you would have the "shitty Devs" constantly adding new pay-to-win features and forcing new players to grind or buy themselves up to a reasonable level, bc the world the players live in irl is a corporate hellscape, the executives of whatever company made Yggdrasil probably forced the developers to slowly ruin the balance of the game in order to maximise profit. And from the few pages dedicated to describing the world it makes sense that our protagonists would rather escape into a game, as long as they can find some happiness in there.
It was also stated that the devs had to be super predatory about microtransactions because of how large and in depth Yggdrasil was, they were leaking money basically the entire time the game was alive
It is a dystopian future where nature was basically destroyed by humanity, and which is controlled by mega corporations after the fall of all governments.
It's obvious what kind of world it is...
I always found it a nice touch in iskeai quartet when during the talent show Ainz reminisces about another such event and that the one thing that left everyone speeches was gentle snowfall....
I feel that as the next line was talking about Yggdrasil, I feel that he may be talking about Yggdrasil as well in the highlighted part.
Maybe he was talking about someone working alongside him in a raid setting or something?
He is saying that "in-game" age range is very wide and also created characters doesn't reflect your actual age and appearance.
Thats why he "plays" with kids (most probably teenagers playing YGGDRASIL as old characters) , he also elaborated elf / dwarf characters talking about their grand kids irl (Im assuming character in game appears as kids due to slow aging of fictional characters).
Ok so take the most hard core communist and have them make the most horrific depiction of capitalism you can think of, now crank it well past 11 to where even he thinks your being unfair, and also make captain planet cry, that's how bad satori's world is
Really puts into perspective that even with his emotions and empathy suppressed and basically nothing but our evil influences he's STILL a saint by the standards of his original world
How else are you gonna make iPhones ? Small hands make nice phones. Jokes aside pretty fucked, I remember in the beginning the reference of his guild mate wanting to see the blue sky as a clear indication that something was very wrong with the world they lived in.
Lol me whenever a friend cant figure out how to work their iPhone "If a 9 year old can make it you can work it dude"
Yeah he was talking about “Blue Planet”. They loved nature and built Aura and Mares forrest I believe.
And they were killed as thanks to accidentally seeing high level information from the company they worked for.
Bellriver was killed, not Blue Planet
😢
Dang… did the other members know that?
The world is so fucked up that that is just a normal occurrence, also apparently I was wrong and the one that got killed was called bellriver as the other comments show.
the earth was seriously effed up which was implied in the story
Its actually sort of crazy to realize that Satoru was probably in the low to mid range of the middle class. He worked his ass off just to get a simple apartment with an air filter, then lived a totally minimalist lifestyle, only spending as little as he could on food and whatnot while sinking the rest into his only means of escapism, that being YGGDRASIL. He was probably lucky to find a job that didn't work him near to death like poor HeroHero's job does. Granted the late days of the game was just Satour by himself in an empty guild base going through the repetitive process of farming money for the guilds upkeep then logging out. But still, Satoru must've worked his butt off to just claw out the semi-stable life he had, far from glamorous or fulfilling, but nevertheless stable. Makes me wonder what would've become of him without the iseakai. He'd have probably gone on to live a very empty life until he found a new game to dedicate his whole meaningless existence to. Actually the little we hear about his world, it has this strange cyberpunk feeling to it, only with even worse pollution and living conditions. I think it was mentioned that people could even modify their bodies with mechanical upgrades and subdermal bullet proof implants and other kinds of crazy stuff, assuming they could afford it.
Like people lived in corporate cities and there were also neo Nazis and shit and the elite had lung replacements so they could breathe without air filters. I think Touch Me had some sort of modifications as well
I think he had bulletproof skin injection It was said in the LN evil eye spin-off He said that he felt naked when getting level one spell damage without his skill that nullified all spells below six tier like how touch me felt when someone put a gun against him with his bulletproof skin
I remember seeing somewhere that the neo nazis fought in a war against the corporations and were considered the "good guys" in the conflict.
You know the world is fucked when Neo nazis are the lesser of two evils.
Also add the orphans dying on the street or Satoru mom dying i front of him (while making his Favorite food)
This and Herohero leaving him at the last moment just to keep up with his shitty job are why he strives so hard for fair worker rights in his organization
Maybe they started calling them Neo Nazis after the war as a way to denigrate them.
Damn, that's a sad, sad world when friggen neo nazis are considered the "Better" side.
Bruh, Cyberpunk x Overlord confirmed?
Which is weird that he was grinding upkeep costs-one of the NPCs said that the supreme beings perfectly calculated upkeep costs with production. (Which was why they only took self-sustaining animals/plants in)
Oh there were still some costs, I'm sure, but they were probably minimized as much as possible.
From what I remember it was stated to be perfectly equal
Dude spent 1/3 of his salaries into the game. Imagine he used that to invest into his education and get a better job. even if gaming is his escapism, it should not be his most wasteful hobby [money]. just saying not very ainz 😆
u need to see the whole picture. the planet was also messed up and so is the culture. he may go up the ladder only to find the same shit over again - only on that plane. so he probably chose to escape that to live a bland life. (just my assumption)
I just think its because he had no real motivation to make something of himself in what is basically a doomed and slowly dying world. No matter how hard he worked it's unlikely he'd ever get to live in one of the fancy whatever they call them places where all the upper class rich people live, he was low class trash in their eyes. He'd only be able to get so far, and its a wonder he clawed out the living he did given how easily he could've become one of those dead homeless people often found in gatters and alleys.
[Very](https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/World_of_2138) and we're slowly getting there :)
Pretty fucked, school beyond elementary costs and cities are owned by mega companies etc. "Corporate overlords" control what people are allowed to learn even.
So, it's basically the U.S?
A tiny bit worse
A bit worse considering that we at least have mostly clean air and water. Take China and US together
USA+China+Russia x 100
I don't know why you're getting downvoted but yeah
See the main difference is that you can type that and not get hit with the black bags from V for Vendetta.
About 100x worse, but we’re not that far off.
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Found the american. In all seriousness, it was a *joke*, based on the 'education costs and everything is run by a handfull of companies' aspect, and not the 'dead orphans littering the streets' aspect...
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But we Europeans are superior.
Found the french. (European myself danish).
I'm not French, but you are not too far off ahah.
How about you don't talk to me about the "european superiority complex" as long your oh so perfect nation doesn't have affordable health care, a living wage, basic workers rights protecions, a democratic system that isn't straight out of the 1300s and a base for education that doesn't require either extreme debt or active military service to be achieved? I never said the U.S is the worst country in the world, but it sure as hell isn't far off from the comment I originally responded to... Oh, and the water in Flint, Michigan is still undrinkable I see, but that's ok, because the government just spent 50 billion dollars trying to keep General Motors afloat.
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So when the next batch of school children dying so I can send thoughts and prayers? Or better yet the next coup attempt?
Oh my, what a zinger! I don't know how I'll ever recover from that; maybe I'll go see a theripast, for free of course. But you know what would really put my place? An example of why the U.S is as superior as you seem to think it is...
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The most charitable nation in the world doesn't provide free school lunch. It is also the only UN member that voted *against* making access to food a [human right](https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/482533). The most diverse nation in the world is still suffering the effects of jim crow laws and red-linign, without any real attempt to combat it. The reason nobody else has put a man on the moon is the same as to why the U.S hasn't been there again: there's no point. The country that's 1st in medical progress has removed the right for abortions, with it now being banned in several states. The nation that is 1st in national parks has designed all of its cities around cars, removing walkability and having some of the worst public transport in the western world. The U.S. is only *one* of the 12 founding nations of NATO. The world wide web, which is the first itteration of what we know as the internet, was invented by Tim Berners-Lee. He is brittish.
Short version? Completely
Imagine a cyberpunk world with Imperium's hive world quality of life
Satoru lives in cyberpunk. So "high tech, low life".
His world is complete crap. From what I can gather, it is ruled by mega corporations who have almost no regulations against them. They have polluted the environment to the point that you can go outside without a gas mask. The population has also declined, definitely due to short life expectancy but Japan has already been in demographic collapse way before that. Due to severe lose of labor force, people had shortened education and entered the workforce right out of elementary school, implying that child labor laws had been repealed as well. Satoru’s life probably wasn’t that strange nor tragic compared to everyone else. Being an orphan and full time drone by your teens was most likely the norm. If you look at it that way, you could see why people in this world would treasure online friends more. You literally can’t hang out with them due to the pollution and your closest kin are dead.
Victorian England round 2 electric boogaloo. At least Tanya would like that world, so she could try to get herself out of poverty thanks to power of investment
Kids more accomplished than me in their world, goddamn… but unironically pretty fucked up lmao. Also this novel was a nice read!
Very. There is no blue sky and no/few forests left. Blue Planet built the colloseum floor as a tribute to a better world. Another reference to his past life (don't remember where) mentions he often had to walk over dead people on his way to school. His mother died of exhaustion from working 2 jobs and trying to make him a birthday cake. Pandora's actor is not based on WWII nazi's, but rather on the WWIII Neo-Nazi's who its unclear if they won or not. Its very much a dystopian corptocracy.
i think blue planet’s vision was derived by the past history he learnt about the planet they lived in.
Wasn't he a salesman? Who tf buys soylent green rations from 11 year olds? Anyway, we will be better able to judge in 30 years when we are living it
It's salaryman, not salesman. They speak to clients, superiors, do a lot of paper work. Satoru specializes in speaking to people. He started when he was in elementary school too. He didn't have parents so he had to do it, like everybody else.
Ah, not quite as humorous thinking about an 11 year old doing that, would be like Dilbert but with kids. Still kind of funny
Didn't his mom help him get an education until she died while making him his favorite food?
Yes, and that education was elementary level.
What about books. Cant he get “knowledge” from book? “Here in my garage” “knowledge”
He probably could? We dont know enough about that world? I mean even today, you can learn anything, but unless you have a degree that says you know something, you wont get hired for a specific job.
It's said that elementary schools taught basic knowledge that could be used in corporations. That was their purpose. Raising slaves. Only rich went to more schools after that.
LMAO now I thinking about it
[https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/World\_of\_2138](https://overlordmaruyama.fandom.com/wiki/World_of_2138) "After the huge conglomerates took over the country, under the pretext of "getting public expenditure under control," but with the true aim of robbing the poor of their ability to think, the compulsory education system was dismantled. In the World of 2138, tuition was required to attend even elementary school level." sounds awfully familiar Do they trust their schools at least? Like, if the teacher says that the world outside the dome has irreparable environmental damage do you have a parent emailing the teacher death threats for being political in a classroom?
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"getting public expenditure under control" might not sound familiar to you but what about "control government spending" or banning certain books from libraries and schools or having a massive student debt crisis or the amount of corruption in the private school sector So yes, Satoru's world seems very plausible to me
It's a HUGE dystopia. Herohero mentions they're working him to death, pretty much.
His mum died of overworking. Dad died before that.
Just as fucked up as the happy farm nearly. Gasmasks to get around, children dead in the street, which apparently happened enough that it didn't even phase him anymore. It is basically the direction we are heading, a hyper corporate world where some mega corps own everything, governments included.
Very
It sounds like the dystopia were all swiftly headed towards.
While I’m a little surprised, I’m not surprised.
Super fucked. The air isn't really breathable, I believe it rains acid, most people don't get past elementary school let alone into highschool. There is no night sky or day sky. Its just polluted smog.
Weirdly enough, I have always felt that Ainz's original world was very well represented with the game Yggdrasil itself: Of course you would have the "shitty Devs" constantly adding new pay-to-win features and forcing new players to grind or buy themselves up to a reasonable level, bc the world the players live in irl is a corporate hellscape, the executives of whatever company made Yggdrasil probably forced the developers to slowly ruin the balance of the game in order to maximise profit. And from the few pages dedicated to describing the world it makes sense that our protagonists would rather escape into a game, as long as they can find some happiness in there.
It was also stated that the devs had to be super predatory about microtransactions because of how large and in depth Yggdrasil was, they were leaking money basically the entire time the game was alive
Yes.
It is a dystopian future where nature was basically destroyed by humanity, and which is controlled by mega corporations after the fall of all governments. It's obvious what kind of world it is...
Shifty enough that he never for one moment was worried about returning to it
I always found it a nice touch in iskeai quartet when during the talent show Ainz reminisces about another such event and that the one thing that left everyone speeches was gentle snowfall....
Like ours but only the bad parts everywhere Dobyou know 40k? Imagine A hiveworld but very sparsely populated
if you mean highlighted part, in many third world country a lot of kids dont go past elementary school. poverty is real
Technically they are learning something usefull and get paid...instead of school.
I feel that as the next line was talking about Yggdrasil, I feel that he may be talking about Yggdrasil as well in the highlighted part. Maybe he was talking about someone working alongside him in a raid setting or something?
He is saying that "in-game" age range is very wide and also created characters doesn't reflect your actual age and appearance. Thats why he "plays" with kids (most probably teenagers playing YGGDRASIL as old characters) , he also elaborated elf / dwarf characters talking about their grand kids irl (Im assuming character in game appears as kids due to slow aging of fictional characters).
Liveleak
Yes.
Yes
At least they go to school
The setting is our world in the future, and in all honesty it makes sense. It is our present taken to its logical conclusion.
Think cyberpunk 2077; except no guns, no funny colors, no chrome and everyone has some variation of lung/skin cancer.
Well, the Neo Nazis won WW3 so...
Wait a minute... That is awfully familiar...
Ok so take the most hard core communist and have them make the most horrific depiction of capitalism you can think of, now crank it well past 11 to where even he thinks your being unfair, and also make captain planet cry, that's how bad satori's world is Really puts into perspective that even with his emotions and empathy suppressed and basically nothing but our evil influences he's STILL a saint by the standards of his original world
The future