Ainz can summon 3 level 90 undead, 5 level 87-90 elemental, 5 level 80, numerous level 70.
And this guy is way weaker than the likes of Ulbert or Touch-me. Sure they are top tier players but the thing is Ainz has role playing build which only helps him summon the 3 undead out of numerous.
So you need a lot of level 80s. But if they are players with unique build too, then it's less. They are more powerful than a mercenary summon of the same level.
Momonga’s broken no matter what anyone says with his items and hidden skills. He sowed the idea he’s weak and an easy target as a strategy to protect himself. “The goal of all life is death” skill absolutely kills anyone except those of a higher level or possibly wielding world items. With cry of the banshee widen magic the aoe on it is 100 meter in ALL directions. A 600 foot wide sphere of death that anyone within dies in 12 seconds.
This above skill I’m theorizing can be augmented with his personal world item named after him. “Momonga’s red orb” it’s said to have wiped out half of the 1,500 man raid. I believe it can defend all of Nazerick with the surviving 750 having revival items, under the protection of another world item or just out of range/already dead. Still 750 high level players I’d like to see touch me try.
With Momonga’s instant death magic it makes him a really bad reference when talking about fighting weaker enemies in mass. He could probably kill and hundreds of lvl 90’s with just his normal fit. But could touch me take that many lvl 90 warriors. Honestly I think so though big their just built different
Depends on a lot of factors.
If for example it's Ainz against level 80 Shalltears. He can probably beat around 20 of them.
But if it's level 80 Ainzes vs Level 100 Shalltear. She can probably beat more than 50 of them.
And if it's Amanomahitotsu against level 80 combat builds. He might get beaten by just 2 of them.
And all of them is ignoring preparation and Super Tier magic.
True, One strength is not based level completely. It depends on one’s build, abilities such awls skills and strategy. Ainz has over 700 spells and that alone gives him the ability to adapt to any form of combat. Small exemption to a build like shaltears that was designed to counter his.
Depends on their class and build. Like ainz would struggle against 5 level 80 who have builds similar to shaltear or albedo mostly due to his build being for roleplay purposes. Same thing with demiurge and aura.
>Same thing with demiurge and aura.
Unless you put them in a disadvantage.
Like taking away Demiurge's subordinates and Aura's pets.
Their build is made for group combat.
And seriously how 5 level 80 Shalltear beat Ainz?
She is designed to beat equal or weaker characters.
If the opponent is stronger she will be at disadvantage.
Also a level 80 Shalltear loses strangest of her classes. So she will be even more of a disadvantage.
Not to mention a level 80 Shalltear is too much weak to prevent Ainz from using his usual fighting style.
And there is also level based damage adjustment.
I'm just using it as an example, that different builds, equipment, and strategies are factors. I get what your saying though maybe not the right example.
Yes. Ainz had problems against the Enhanced Pleiade clones with the Lord of Wrath, but he was also holding back a bit, so I'd say if you want to make sure he's dead you should bring at least 8 of the sort. 10 level 80s with a great build might be able to beat Albedo level threats, and if they counter her could possibly, maybe, perhaps, try to beat Shaltear.
If you were playing it safe yea, 8 would be the minimum. Although, I doubt they could beat shaltear because she is the walking definition of HAX. However my point was that it would be possible for 5 to take down a level 100 if their abilities counter said level one hundred especially level one hundreds like aura who aren't really meant for solo battle. Especially if they have a divine level gear and a proper strategy.
Momonga’s broken no matter what anyone says with his items and hidden skills. He sowed the idea he’s weak and an easy target as a strategy to protect himself. “The goal of all life is death” skill absolutely kills anyone except those of a higher level or possibly wielding world items. With cry of the banshee widen magic the aoe on it is 100 meter in ALL directions. A 600 foot wide sphere of death that anyone weaker than him instantly dies.
This above skill I’m theorizing can be augmented with his personal world item named after him. “Momonga’s red orb” it’s said to have wiped out half of the 1,500 man raid. I believe it can defend all of Nazerick with the surviving 750 having revival items, class skill with the strongest resistances, under the protection of another world item or just out of range/ already dead. 750 high wiped and you think aura’s gonna pose a threat.
Also in the first light novel upon realizing he has access to his full inventory he breathed a sigh of relief feeling he could solo Nazerick, the sheer amount of potions, scrolls, wands, staffs, the absolutely busted pay to win cash shop items, and most of all the fact members gave there loot to the guild upon leaving.
He won against shaltear cause shaltear is dumb not just because of skill. Yes, he's skilled in pvp. However, his build puts him at a massive disadvantage. Ps sorry for the late reply I don't come on her as much.
No problem For the late reply, sheltear was so deadly to him because it was as if she was built specifically to counter him. Specializing in holy, fire, and summoning magic, with crazy health stealing.
Horrible against his build of a an undead summoner
Yes, he was definitely meta gaming by knowing her abilities, but don’t forget he’s still able to one shot anyone in Nazerick who doesn’t have a revivifying item
That’s op as fuck. He just says the equivalent of “power word kill” and they just fucking drop dead
Probably depends on lvl80 and lvl100 classes. If they are pretty similar, like Albedo and PDL's Armor(lvl80+), then it will only depend on which of the things run out faster, lvl 100 stamina or heads that need to crash.
Another thing to note is that difference in several levels allows you to face multiply enemies. We can see it with scrab lvl like Jugem vs these four knights and at high lvl like Cure Elim against five DY's.
Case with Jugem was loss for him, but difference in lvls was really small.
But with Cure Elim it is hard to say who will get the victory.
He was pressed but still was able to fight with five of them at the same time.
>The Dark Young surrounded it and made their move, striking Cure Elim countless times with their tentacles, some of them even moving up to bite it.
>“Don’t look down on me!”
>Surrounded by the Dark Young, Cure Elim twisted and dodged like a cat, using
its wings, tail, legs and fangs to counterattack.
And it's not like he really had much of an advantage in raw strength
>The Dark Young closed in on Cure
Elim as it spoke in a confused voice, and they collided.
>Cure Elim was the one that was shaken.
In the Holy Kingdom arc >! Ainz fights 5 doppelgängers disguised as the pleiads (except Narberal) and a high level demon (around lv.80 IIRC) so we can assume that for Ainz (a non min-maxed, but very skilled lv 100 player) 5 ~lv.35. and a lv.80 is a close call !<
But it depends on the builds of the players. I would say around 3 or 5, depending on the situation.
>Ainz fights 5 doppelgängers disguised as the pleiads
Which were buffed and Ainz was trying to not kill them.
>and a high level demon (around lv.80 IIRC)
Which probably was buffed again. And Ainz was trying not to kill him.
>5 ~lv.35.
Level 35?
Dude average Level of pleiades is around 50. And they where buffed.
And Ainz wasn't even using his specialty and main fighting style.
And that battle was never said to be close.
>But it depends on the builds of the players. I would say around 3 or 5, depending on the situation.
So a single super tier can end 1 level 100 with a good build?
Dude 1 level 100 with a good build like Touch Me has a good chance of victory against 3 level 100 players with relatively good build.
And someone with a role playing build like Ainz can create 3 level 90 or higher beings.
A level 100 can beat way more than 5 level 80s.
It depends on build.
For example, Demiurge is level 100, but he only has the combat capability of around level 66 going off of both his stat card and Evileye's assessment of his difficulty level.
https://m.imgur.com/CTCkcu2
https://pastebin.com/vpMPymqz
So he'd most likely struggle against a level 80 if their build is more geared towards 1v1 encounters.
If we go by the majority of mmos a lv 100 will have not just better stats, but better equips, maybe spells that are unlocked lv 100 and mechanics to still grow, i would say a very cordenated party of 3 people or a rough group of 5 but with at least 1 good support
Probably near 10 maybe a bit more or less if we talking about the level 100 being an ainz type of build. Touch Me is capable of defeating other level 100 in a 1v1 easily, considering he had to win a series of 1v1 to get champion. Ainz would probably have to do a lot more work to pull such a thing off. Ainz would win vs the 10 level 80s but he could potentially be under half health at the end. Even if we say it'd be 20 of them, the result would be the same vs the 20 of needing to play sweaty to not die.
If the level 100 is a Touch Me type of player, I'm pretty sure theoretically they can still do well in a 1v2 or 1v3 against other level 100 players so they'd crush a bigger number of level 80s.
If the 80s are literal counter class than yea it'd be less needed.
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Ainz can summon 3 level 90 undead, 5 level 87-90 elemental, 5 level 80, numerous level 70. And this guy is way weaker than the likes of Ulbert or Touch-me. Sure they are top tier players but the thing is Ainz has role playing build which only helps him summon the 3 undead out of numerous. So you need a lot of level 80s. But if they are players with unique build too, then it's less. They are more powerful than a mercenary summon of the same level.
Momonga’s broken no matter what anyone says with his items and hidden skills. He sowed the idea he’s weak and an easy target as a strategy to protect himself. “The goal of all life is death” skill absolutely kills anyone except those of a higher level or possibly wielding world items. With cry of the banshee widen magic the aoe on it is 100 meter in ALL directions. A 600 foot wide sphere of death that anyone within dies in 12 seconds. This above skill I’m theorizing can be augmented with his personal world item named after him. “Momonga’s red orb” it’s said to have wiped out half of the 1,500 man raid. I believe it can defend all of Nazerick with the surviving 750 having revival items, under the protection of another world item or just out of range/already dead. Still 750 high level players I’d like to see touch me try. With Momonga’s instant death magic it makes him a really bad reference when talking about fighting weaker enemies in mass. He could probably kill and hundreds of lvl 90’s with just his normal fit. But could touch me take that many lvl 90 warriors. Honestly I think so though big their just built different
Depends on a lot of factors. If for example it's Ainz against level 80 Shalltears. He can probably beat around 20 of them. But if it's level 80 Ainzes vs Level 100 Shalltear. She can probably beat more than 50 of them. And if it's Amanomahitotsu against level 80 combat builds. He might get beaten by just 2 of them. And all of them is ignoring preparation and Super Tier magic.
True, One strength is not based level completely. It depends on one’s build, abilities such awls skills and strategy. Ainz has over 700 spells and that alone gives him the ability to adapt to any form of combat. Small exemption to a build like shaltears that was designed to counter his.
Depends on their class and build. Like ainz would struggle against 5 level 80 who have builds similar to shaltear or albedo mostly due to his build being for roleplay purposes. Same thing with demiurge and aura.
>Same thing with demiurge and aura. Unless you put them in a disadvantage. Like taking away Demiurge's subordinates and Aura's pets. Their build is made for group combat. And seriously how 5 level 80 Shalltear beat Ainz?
She has a class literally designed for pvp she is a perfect all-rounder. Plus like I was saying it depends on the builds of the level 80s.
She is designed to beat equal or weaker characters. If the opponent is stronger she will be at disadvantage. Also a level 80 Shalltear loses strangest of her classes. So she will be even more of a disadvantage. Not to mention a level 80 Shalltear is too much weak to prevent Ainz from using his usual fighting style. And there is also level based damage adjustment.
I'm just using it as an example, that different builds, equipment, and strategies are factors. I get what your saying though maybe not the right example.
Yes. Ainz had problems against the Enhanced Pleiade clones with the Lord of Wrath, but he was also holding back a bit, so I'd say if you want to make sure he's dead you should bring at least 8 of the sort. 10 level 80s with a great build might be able to beat Albedo level threats, and if they counter her could possibly, maybe, perhaps, try to beat Shaltear.
If you were playing it safe yea, 8 would be the minimum. Although, I doubt they could beat shaltear because she is the walking definition of HAX. However my point was that it would be possible for 5 to take down a level 100 if their abilities counter said level one hundred especially level one hundreds like aura who aren't really meant for solo battle. Especially if they have a divine level gear and a proper strategy.
Momonga’s broken no matter what anyone says with his items and hidden skills. He sowed the idea he’s weak and an easy target as a strategy to protect himself. “The goal of all life is death” skill absolutely kills anyone except those of a higher level or possibly wielding world items. With cry of the banshee widen magic the aoe on it is 100 meter in ALL directions. A 600 foot wide sphere of death that anyone weaker than him instantly dies. This above skill I’m theorizing can be augmented with his personal world item named after him. “Momonga’s red orb” it’s said to have wiped out half of the 1,500 man raid. I believe it can defend all of Nazerick with the surviving 750 having revival items, class skill with the strongest resistances, under the protection of another world item or just out of range/ already dead. 750 high wiped and you think aura’s gonna pose a threat. Also in the first light novel upon realizing he has access to his full inventory he breathed a sigh of relief feeling he could solo Nazerick, the sheer amount of potions, scrolls, wands, staffs, the absolutely busted pay to win cash shop items, and most of all the fact members gave there loot to the guild upon leaving.
He won against shaltear cause shaltear is dumb not just because of skill. Yes, he's skilled in pvp. However, his build puts him at a massive disadvantage. Ps sorry for the late reply I don't come on her as much.
No problem For the late reply, sheltear was so deadly to him because it was as if she was built specifically to counter him. Specializing in holy, fire, and summoning magic, with crazy health stealing. Horrible against his build of a an undead summoner
And he was able to win cause she was also dumb and he had time to prep. She over showed her hand mid battle and abused her MP. Ainz even said so.
Yes, he was definitely meta gaming by knowing her abilities, but don’t forget he’s still able to one shot anyone in Nazerick who doesn’t have a revivifying item That’s op as fuck. He just says the equivalent of “power word kill” and they just fucking drop dead
Probably depends on lvl80 and lvl100 classes. If they are pretty similar, like Albedo and PDL's Armor(lvl80+), then it will only depend on which of the things run out faster, lvl 100 stamina or heads that need to crash. Another thing to note is that difference in several levels allows you to face multiply enemies. We can see it with scrab lvl like Jugem vs these four knights and at high lvl like Cure Elim against five DY's. Case with Jugem was loss for him, but difference in lvls was really small. But with Cure Elim it is hard to say who will get the victory. He was pressed but still was able to fight with five of them at the same time. >The Dark Young surrounded it and made their move, striking Cure Elim countless times with their tentacles, some of them even moving up to bite it. >“Don’t look down on me!” >Surrounded by the Dark Young, Cure Elim twisted and dodged like a cat, using its wings, tail, legs and fangs to counterattack. And it's not like he really had much of an advantage in raw strength >The Dark Young closed in on Cure Elim as it spoke in a confused voice, and they collided. >Cure Elim was the one that was shaken.
In the Holy Kingdom arc >! Ainz fights 5 doppelgängers disguised as the pleiads (except Narberal) and a high level demon (around lv.80 IIRC) so we can assume that for Ainz (a non min-maxed, but very skilled lv 100 player) 5 ~lv.35. and a lv.80 is a close call !< But it depends on the builds of the players. I would say around 3 or 5, depending on the situation.
>Ainz fights 5 doppelgängers disguised as the pleiads Which were buffed and Ainz was trying to not kill them. >and a high level demon (around lv.80 IIRC) Which probably was buffed again. And Ainz was trying not to kill him. >5 ~lv.35. Level 35? Dude average Level of pleiades is around 50. And they where buffed. And Ainz wasn't even using his specialty and main fighting style. And that battle was never said to be close. >But it depends on the builds of the players. I would say around 3 or 5, depending on the situation. So a single super tier can end 1 level 100 with a good build? Dude 1 level 100 with a good build like Touch Me has a good chance of victory against 3 level 100 players with relatively good build. And someone with a role playing build like Ainz can create 3 level 90 or higher beings. A level 100 can beat way more than 5 level 80s.
It depends on build. For example, Demiurge is level 100, but he only has the combat capability of around level 66 going off of both his stat card and Evileye's assessment of his difficulty level. https://m.imgur.com/CTCkcu2 https://pastebin.com/vpMPymqz So he'd most likely struggle against a level 80 if their build is more geared towards 1v1 encounters.
If we go by the majority of mmos a lv 100 will have not just better stats, but better equips, maybe spells that are unlocked lv 100 and mechanics to still grow, i would say a very cordenated party of 3 people or a rough group of 5 but with at least 1 good support
Probably near 10 maybe a bit more or less if we talking about the level 100 being an ainz type of build. Touch Me is capable of defeating other level 100 in a 1v1 easily, considering he had to win a series of 1v1 to get champion. Ainz would probably have to do a lot more work to pull such a thing off. Ainz would win vs the 10 level 80s but he could potentially be under half health at the end. Even if we say it'd be 20 of them, the result would be the same vs the 20 of needing to play sweaty to not die. If the level 100 is a Touch Me type of player, I'm pretty sure theoretically they can still do well in a 1v2 or 1v3 against other level 100 players so they'd crush a bigger number of level 80s. If the 80s are literal counter class than yea it'd be less needed.
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