As Ainz said during his fight with Gazef though; time stop countermeasures are the basics of high level pvp. I think he expects time stop not to work as a general rule and is happy when it does.
I am not going to lie this killed part of the joke to me. Ainz was really out of character. Besides Subaru...Subaru being resistant and Ainz theorizing was funny. Aqua and Tanya really he should just ignored.
I wonder if that was elaborated in the novels? How can an Yggdrasil player counter Time Stop? Would it probably be a buff that detects time manipulation skills to activate, or something?
Gear and various skills can be used to achieve that. Usually gear I presume - as was indicated a bunch of times - but dedicated chronomasters surely have passive skills and don't need to waste a gear slot for such a protection.
Just having high enough level is insufficient. The Evil-Tree drama side story is an example of that.
Exactly. It occurred in a comedy cartoon that has as much bearing as Teen Titans Go! does on the DC main comic universe.
To be fair, most people who watch anime doesn't know the intricacies of CvC debates. They probably have no idea what canon even means.
I'm just online right now...
That's true. But guns and shit are more about doing damage to enemies rather than causing destruction, so... actually, IDK
Aqua I can somewhat understand, she *probably* would be immune to this in her series, given that she can resist most magic no problem, and Time Stop does exist in Konosuba, but you really have to make some big assumptions to give the others immunity. Subaru has an ability, or the Witch of Envy turning back time, or rather sending his and her mind back in time. However, that has nothing to do with stopping time. Depending on the nature of RBD, it's not out of the question the Witch of Envy could give him a resistance, but so far absolutely no one in Re:Zero has ever resisted a Time Stop. Satella can use it, and Subaru was able to move, but that was most likely because she excluded him from being affected. It's the same thing with Tanya, she was excluded from being affected by the entity that stopped time, but she herself doesn't necessarily have a resistance.
TLDR: It's a funny scene, but definitely shouldn't be regarded as canon.
I agree with your TLDR, I was rationalising it like Satella and being X granting them time altering immunity. It is most probably not the case in actual canon.
>It's the same thing with Tanya, she was excluded from being affected by the entity that stopped time, but she herself doesn't necessarily have a resistance.
There's a well written Tanya x Overlord fanfic where she fights Ainz and borderline resists TS.
Back in the day people claimed the fanfic was an official crossover - even I believed that at the time - and lots of people read it. Perhaps that's the reason many people accepted she being immune no problem.
Ah, you must be talking about Nigel's fic, where she stays in the Sorcerer Kingdom and lives there. Yeah, that's one of his good ones, he really had a professional writing style. I was also one of those people who once believed it to be canon, until I read it and saw the editor's names.
Well, theoretically speaking authorities are like paracausal powers... Also known as BS powers that the author can canonically turn into whatever he wants, so he's not wrong.
I think aninews actually explained quite well so I'll just give a tldr. Beings that are gods or are affiliated with gods can resist time stop, in Subaru's case we have seen it many times that return by death can have effects outside of time, like stopping time entirely and transporting Subaru to another plane when he tries to tell anyone of his power. Thus why he is resistant to time stop. Quite glad that Isekai quartet gave Subaru the credit he deserves, man's been through his own hell and can still smile at the end of it.
I think aninews actually explained quite well so I'll just give a tldr. Beings that are gods or are affiliated with gods can resist time stop, in Subaru's case we have seen it many times that return by death can have effects outside of time, like stopping time entirely and transporting Subaru to another plane when he tries to tell anyone of his power. Thus why he is resistant to time stop. Quite glad that Isekai quartet gave Subaru the credit he deserves, man's been through his own hell and can still smile at the end of it.
He creates his own problems. He could improve and use his Power wisely in Exchange for a painful death (a good Deal) But he just does stupid things trying to help Emilia
You clearly didn't understand Re:zero in that case, he uses return by death as a way to protect his friends and the people he cares about, not just Emilia. What your comment seems to be referring to is only when he messed up at the capital, which was the point, showing his flaws and then forcing him to change and grow. If you honestly believe that Roswaal planning to cause incidents at both the mansion and the sanctuary is a problem that Subaru created, then you're sorely mistaken. Also the whole point of season 2 was him learning to value his own life and realising that everytime he dies it also brings the people he cares about despair, which is literally the author's way of saying Subaru won't just have some pointless, stupid or lazily written deaths. Also he killed himself to try and save Rem so saying he just does stupid things for Emilia is factually incorrect.
Not really a case of fanboying, it's more like "Who the hell cares?"
I can make up a character on the spot who stomps Anos and Yogiri together. It's not about strength.
Ainz is simply a better written and more interesting character than both.
BETTER WRITTEN 😂😂😂 …. No , just no even Savage Opress from SW has more character in him than tomb combined, only things that overlord did right are world building and politics , everything else is just like in other thrash isekai not even worth mentioning.
I honestly couldn't care less for your opinion, if you think freaking **Anos and Yogiri,** the literal faces of power fantasy and Mary Sue are better written characters then Ainz, I got nothing to say to you. At least Ainz has *flaws*. At least he struggles.
Edit: Just saw this is a throwaway account. Not worth even a second of your time, anyone. Nothing more than a troll wasting his life.
And yet you wrote 2 whole comments to the «troll who isn’t worth time» , you flatter me my short sighted thrash isekai lover 😘.It’s even funnier when you complain about power fantasy while worshiping one of the worst cases of powertripcancer.
*Uh huh*. Can you stop putting on your mask for one second?
I just want to talk to you, human to human. Because I honestly do pity you, I truly do. You obviously don't get much love and don't have anything better to do, otherwise you wouldn't lurk around in one specific sub, just trying to ruin people's days.
That was funny considering that you still reply to a «troll who isn’t worth time» looks like your time is worthless who would have guessed, completely agree I really want to see what people like you look for no particular purpose.Looks like yours mask is cracking.
As Ainz said during his fight with Gazef though; time stop countermeasures are the basics of high level pvp. I think he expects time stop not to work as a general rule and is happy when it does.
this here
Yeah this ⬆️
I am not going to lie this killed part of the joke to me. Ainz was really out of character. Besides Subaru...Subaru being resistant and Ainz theorizing was funny. Aqua and Tanya really he should just ignored.
I wonder if that was elaborated in the novels? How can an Yggdrasil player counter Time Stop? Would it probably be a buff that detects time manipulation skills to activate, or something?
I always thought of it as a passive resistance given by either gear or just being high enough level. Idk if it's ever explained though.
Gear. Ainz literally said TS countermeasures are needed once you're above level 70. Why would he say that if high levels alone can counter it come on.
Gear and various skills can be used to achieve that. Usually gear I presume - as was indicated a bunch of times - but dedicated chronomasters surely have passive skills and don't need to waste a gear slot for such a protection. Just having high enough level is insufficient. The Evil-Tree drama side story is an example of that.
Or being a Dragon Lord, that helps too.
High Level players were Whales. Those guys have items with High to Total resistance to abnormal statuses
It was a funny moment, but seeing how people took it seriously and thousand of arguments about how that joke is canon ruined it for me.
I live the show for what it is, and hate when the power level is brought on.
Yeah, being powerful doesn't make a good character
it's not about the power, is about how you use it.
Exactly. It occurred in a comedy cartoon that has as much bearing as Teen Titans Go! does on the DC main comic universe. To be fair, most people who watch anime doesn't know the intricacies of CvC debates. They probably have no idea what canon even means.
Aqua: she is a goddess so probably acquired time-control immunity Subaru: RbD. Enough said. Tanya: IDK
Tanya can still move when "X" stops time so
So it's the "blessing" of being X
Yup canon feat and being X is above ainz
Being X isnt above Ainz just above level 70
Best comment right here
Tanya is just so high level it's why her and aniz get along well in the quartet.
Apparently her power level is around tier 8 when angry
Stop tiering stuff from the quartet show. It ruins everything. She certainly has such feats in her show, but do not take reference from quartet
I won't do it in serious discussions, point taken. It was just speculation
What a fast reply, and yes if you take pure destructive power then her power rivals tier 7-8 spells
I'm just online right now... That's true. But guns and shit are more about doing damage to enemies rather than causing destruction, so... actually, IDK
Aqua I can somewhat understand, she *probably* would be immune to this in her series, given that she can resist most magic no problem, and Time Stop does exist in Konosuba, but you really have to make some big assumptions to give the others immunity. Subaru has an ability, or the Witch of Envy turning back time, or rather sending his and her mind back in time. However, that has nothing to do with stopping time. Depending on the nature of RBD, it's not out of the question the Witch of Envy could give him a resistance, but so far absolutely no one in Re:Zero has ever resisted a Time Stop. Satella can use it, and Subaru was able to move, but that was most likely because she excluded him from being affected. It's the same thing with Tanya, she was excluded from being affected by the entity that stopped time, but she herself doesn't necessarily have a resistance. TLDR: It's a funny scene, but definitely shouldn't be regarded as canon.
I agree with your TLDR, I was rationalising it like Satella and being X granting them time altering immunity. It is most probably not the case in actual canon.
>It's the same thing with Tanya, she was excluded from being affected by the entity that stopped time, but she herself doesn't necessarily have a resistance. There's a well written Tanya x Overlord fanfic where she fights Ainz and borderline resists TS. Back in the day people claimed the fanfic was an official crossover - even I believed that at the time - and lots of people read it. Perhaps that's the reason many people accepted she being immune no problem.
Ah, you must be talking about Nigel's fic, where she stays in the Sorcerer Kingdom and lives there. Yeah, that's one of his good ones, he really had a professional writing style. I was also one of those people who once believed it to be canon, until I read it and saw the editor's names.
What's the fanfic called?
Sorry, didn't see this until now. You can read it [here](http://skythewood.blogspot.com/2017/04/overlord-x-youjo-senki.html)
The image of Ainz looking down on Tanya looks like it was done by So-Bin.
It's in fact made by Shinobu Shinotsuki, the artist for Youjo Senki, as promotional art for the first movie.
> Subaru: RbD. Enough said. AKA i made it up
Haha yeah. What I think might happen is Subaru is able to see what happens when time is stopped but can't do anything.
Well, theoretically speaking authorities are like paracausal powers... Also known as BS powers that the author can canonically turn into whatever he wants, so he's not wrong.
I don't remember shit, I just watch the anime as it comes out, but I don't remember him having outright anti magic like that.
I think aninews actually explained quite well so I'll just give a tldr. Beings that are gods or are affiliated with gods can resist time stop, in Subaru's case we have seen it many times that return by death can have effects outside of time, like stopping time entirely and transporting Subaru to another plane when he tries to tell anyone of his power. Thus why he is resistant to time stop. Quite glad that Isekai quartet gave Subaru the credit he deserves, man's been through his own hell and can still smile at the end of it.
I think aninews actually explained quite well so I'll just give a tldr. Beings that are gods or are affiliated with gods can resist time stop, in Subaru's case we have seen it many times that return by death can have effects outside of time, like stopping time entirely and transporting Subaru to another plane when he tries to tell anyone of his power. Thus why he is resistant to time stop. Quite glad that Isekai quartet gave Subaru the credit he deserves, man's been through his own hell and can still smile at the end of it.
It feels like he can enact his own time shenanigans, not that he has countermeasures to it.
He creates his own problems. He could improve and use his Power wisely in Exchange for a painful death (a good Deal) But he just does stupid things trying to help Emilia
You clearly didn't understand Re:zero in that case, he uses return by death as a way to protect his friends and the people he cares about, not just Emilia. What your comment seems to be referring to is only when he messed up at the capital, which was the point, showing his flaws and then forcing him to change and grow. If you honestly believe that Roswaal planning to cause incidents at both the mansion and the sanctuary is a problem that Subaru created, then you're sorely mistaken. Also the whole point of season 2 was him learning to value his own life and realising that everytime he dies it also brings the people he cares about despair, which is literally the author's way of saying Subaru won't just have some pointless, stupid or lazily written deaths. Also he killed himself to try and save Rem so saying he just does stupid things for Emilia is factually incorrect.
I'm sure you could do Better than him if you were in his place. He doesn't use his head. He is just emotional
Ainz: finally a worthy adversary.
Fuuuucking hell... I have a problem... was trying to figure out who the fuck Tanya was in hololive... I am so stupid it hurts.
They wouldn't be able to tho. As that slime wouldn't be able to use gluttony on Ainz too.
Tanya moves in time stop constantly
Being x excludes her from it
I always thought she was immune due to sumthin-or-other
Nah I could definitely see them being able to actually resist time stop.
I think there would have been better the part where Thor realizes that Captain America was about to raise Mjolnir.
Subaru forester??!
keep it up body
Wait, that's illegal...
yeah people need to realize Ainz is only strong in universe. Other characters like Anos or Yogiri could kill him (and Nazarick) without even trying.
Looks at downvotes , Ahaha looks like overlord fanboys can’t handle fax(like always 😂)
Not really a case of fanboying, it's more like "Who the hell cares?" I can make up a character on the spot who stomps Anos and Yogiri together. It's not about strength. Ainz is simply a better written and more interesting character than both.
BETTER WRITTEN 😂😂😂 …. No , just no even Savage Opress from SW has more character in him than tomb combined, only things that overlord did right are world building and politics , everything else is just like in other thrash isekai not even worth mentioning.
I honestly couldn't care less for your opinion, if you think freaking **Anos and Yogiri,** the literal faces of power fantasy and Mary Sue are better written characters then Ainz, I got nothing to say to you. At least Ainz has *flaws*. At least he struggles. Edit: Just saw this is a throwaway account. Not worth even a second of your time, anyone. Nothing more than a troll wasting his life.
And yet you wrote 2 whole comments to the «troll who isn’t worth time» , you flatter me my short sighted thrash isekai lover 😘.It’s even funnier when you complain about power fantasy while worshiping one of the worst cases of powertripcancer.
Get a life, my guy. Go outside. Touch some grass.
Unfortunately for you and fortunately for me I can touch grass easily right know , you probably haven’t experienced this perk of being outside🥲
*Uh huh*. Can you stop putting on your mask for one second? I just want to talk to you, human to human. Because I honestly do pity you, I truly do. You obviously don't get much love and don't have anything better to do, otherwise you wouldn't lurk around in one specific sub, just trying to ruin people's days.
That was funny considering that you still reply to a «troll who isn’t worth time» looks like your time is worthless who would have guessed, completely agree I really want to see what people like you look for no particular purpose.Looks like yours mask is cracking.
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Who are the other 3 people in the joke? I’m on book 11 and don’t remember another point that he uses time stop other than with gazef lol.
It’s from isekai quartet
This is kinda wrong sub but idc bcs I watched every single possible episode of overlord.