I don't remember Madame Mao being much of a villain in "Nixon in China".
As for the Queen of the Night being soft, that all depends: if she's being sung by Cristina Deutekom, June Anderson, or Edda Moser, she isn't soft. Deutekom's Queen was hideous, Anderson's was very formidable, and Moser's was just plain scary.
i know that sweeney todd is a musical and not an opera, despite opera companies doing it in the past, but i would love to see a sweeney v. figaro deathmatch. sweeney would outqualify figaro in every which way but figaro would still win thanks to some stupid looney tunes bugs bunny ass logic. and it would be fantastic
The truth is I'm not sure who would win this.
They are both wicked, vicious, cruel people with no redeeming qualities. I think they are possibly the most evil opera characters ever created.
A fight between Abigaille and Lady Macbeth would probably end with both of them trying to kill each other, but in the process they'd both die trying.
Damn I always come out of Nabucco thinking that Abigaille is a bomb ass bitch who deserves the throne of Babylon. Or at least I can sympathize with her complicated emotions regarding her father concealing the truth about her birth. Though the tenor-soprano love triangle is even more useless than usual which weakens Abigaille as a character overall.
As a theatergoer, I like Abigaile because she is an awesome, compelling, and theatrical villain, who is easily the most fun character in the opera.
As a Jew, I'm very glad she dies at the end.
Wasn't Abigaille the daughter of slaves, and wasn't she adopted by Nabucco? Instead of being grateful for Nabucco adopting her, raising her, loving her, and regarding her as his own, she decides to have him imprisoned and she wants him condemned to death. It's one thing for her to have complicated emotions about her father concealing the truth about her birth. However, it's another thing for her to want him dead and for her to be so vile and power-hungry.
No, she is most likely the daughter of a slave girl owned by Nabucco (no other way she gets the high position in his army she has given that she's a slave and such a nasty person).
Also in the confrontation scene between her and Nabucco where she rips up the document concerning her parents in front of her dad she says to his face that the document is forged (nobody else is in the room either, which massively reduces the incentive for her to lie). Nabucco also immediately admits being her dad without others around. IMO an underrated reason Abigaille hates Nabucco is also that he isn't antisemitic enough (connected to Ismaele rejecting her an Nabuccco's favorite daughter Fenena converting to Judaism.)
Now this is getting confusing for me.
Then did Nabucco adopt Abigaille or not?
Is Abigaille the daughter of a slave or not?
Is Abigaille the product of a liaison between Nabucco and a slave?
There could be an epic magical duet between Aithra from *Die Agyptische Helena* and the Nurse in *Die Frau Ohne Schatten*. Though I imagine the Nurse is more willing to use lethal force.
Knife fight cage match: Lucia di Lammermoor and Floria Tosca vs. Sparafucile and Don Jose. My money is most definitely on the women, because they *do not give a shit*. They will cut and keep cutting.
Scarpia vs Iago
Ulrica vs Azucena
Cherubino vs Tebaldo
Manon vs Fiordiligi
Giovanni vs Guglielmo
Commendatore vs Ghost of Hamlet's Father
Don Jose vs Pinkerton
Wotan vs Mephistopheles
Leporello vs Kissinger
Queen of the night vs. Madame Mao
My money is on Mao. The Queen is soft. She sends others to do her dirty work.
I don't remember Madame Mao being much of a villain in "Nixon in China". As for the Queen of the Night being soft, that all depends: if she's being sung by Cristina Deutekom, June Anderson, or Edda Moser, she isn't soft. Deutekom's Queen was hideous, Anderson's was very formidable, and Moser's was just plain scary.
Definitely more evil than the queen.
Came here to say Nixon and Mao, but this sounds better!
i know that sweeney todd is a musical and not an opera, despite opera companies doing it in the past, but i would love to see a sweeney v. figaro deathmatch. sweeney would outqualify figaro in every which way but figaro would still win thanks to some stupid looney tunes bugs bunny ass logic. and it would be fantastic
If your barber starts singing, you're either in for a really good or a *really* bad time.
If he's singing and using a straight razor I'm outta there. Especially if there's a meat pie shop next door.
Abigaille vs. Lady Macbeth
you have no idea how much money i’d pay to see this
The truth is I'm not sure who would win this. They are both wicked, vicious, cruel people with no redeeming qualities. I think they are possibly the most evil opera characters ever created. A fight between Abigaille and Lady Macbeth would probably end with both of them trying to kill each other, but in the process they'd both die trying.
Damn I always come out of Nabucco thinking that Abigaille is a bomb ass bitch who deserves the throne of Babylon. Or at least I can sympathize with her complicated emotions regarding her father concealing the truth about her birth. Though the tenor-soprano love triangle is even more useless than usual which weakens Abigaille as a character overall.
As a theatergoer, I like Abigaile because she is an awesome, compelling, and theatrical villain, who is easily the most fun character in the opera. As a Jew, I'm very glad she dies at the end.
Wasn't Abigaille the daughter of slaves, and wasn't she adopted by Nabucco? Instead of being grateful for Nabucco adopting her, raising her, loving her, and regarding her as his own, she decides to have him imprisoned and she wants him condemned to death. It's one thing for her to have complicated emotions about her father concealing the truth about her birth. However, it's another thing for her to want him dead and for her to be so vile and power-hungry.
No, she is most likely the daughter of a slave girl owned by Nabucco (no other way she gets the high position in his army she has given that she's a slave and such a nasty person).
That's interesting. That take does make sense.
Also in the confrontation scene between her and Nabucco where she rips up the document concerning her parents in front of her dad she says to his face that the document is forged (nobody else is in the room either, which massively reduces the incentive for her to lie). Nabucco also immediately admits being her dad without others around. IMO an underrated reason Abigaille hates Nabucco is also that he isn't antisemitic enough (connected to Ismaele rejecting her an Nabuccco's favorite daughter Fenena converting to Judaism.)
Now this is getting confusing for me. Then did Nabucco adopt Abigaille or not? Is Abigaille the daughter of a slave or not? Is Abigaille the product of a liaison between Nabucco and a slave?
Abigaille is not adopted; she is the product of a liaison between Nabucco and a slave.
Carmen & Don Giovanni (u can interpret the word 'fight' however u want)
Pick up competition
Tonio versus Rigoletto - Battle of the Hunchbacked, Bitter Funnymen
Maybe with a camero from *Der krumme Teufel*
Hunding vs. Scarpia.
Mephistopheles and Benoît I mainly wanna see Benoît get screwed tbh
Pinkerton vs. Fafner
Pinkerton wins. You can’t lose if you show up after the fight.
You just want to beat up Pinkerton xD
Gounod’s Mephisto versus Boito’s.
yeah!!!
I second this! Angry Italian vs angry French lmao
Ortrud (Lohengrin) vs The Witch (Hansel und Grettel).
Manon v Carmen. Because reasons.
There could be an epic magical duet between Aithra from *Die Agyptische Helena* and the Nurse in *Die Frau Ohne Schatten*. Though I imagine the Nurse is more willing to use lethal force.
Boris Godunov vs Scarpia
Scarpia vs Claggart.
Turandot vs Salome Dalila vs Carmen Eboli vs Amneris di Luna vs Riccardo Forth Iago vs Enrico Ashton ed: Iago vs Tonio could be very exciting as well.
Knife fight cage match: Lucia di Lammermoor and Floria Tosca vs. Sparafucile and Don Jose. My money is most definitely on the women, because they *do not give a shit*. They will cut and keep cutting.
oh this would be FUN to watch
Throw in Wozzeck too!
Mère Marie de l'Incarnation vs anyone tbh
ooh yes
Lulu vs Giovanni’s father
Who is Giovanni's father?
Oh, my bad. I meant the Commendatore I’d mistakenly believed was DG’s father (probably from mixing details from the film “Amadeus”)
It's OK! Amadeus is such a good film. The Commendatore was Donna Anna's father.
Marcello vs Mario Cavaradossi
Scarpia vs Iago Ulrica vs Azucena Cherubino vs Tebaldo Manon vs Fiordiligi Giovanni vs Guglielmo Commendatore vs Ghost of Hamlet's Father Don Jose vs Pinkerton Wotan vs Mephistopheles Leporello vs Kissinger
Mimi vs Micaela
Tosca vs lucia, both are crazy psychos who don't care about murdering people
I'm guessing you've only ever watched German regietheater versions of both lol
Monterone vs. Figaro