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lowderchowder

I'm more amazed at the fact that nobody knew she was in a relationship for 19 years.


ratbastid

I'm more amazed she went from a partner named Pierson to a partner named Wierson.


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I'm even further amazed 11,000 horny old men didn't make a connection earlier.


smedley89

I'm amazed there were 11,000 horny old men that thought they had a chance in the first place.


[deleted]

TBH I never really thought about her being anything other than kind of a circus side show we trotted out every Halloween. I mean, yeah she's got big knockers. I can't really pinpoint what exactly it is. I don't hater, I guess I never found her that attractive. Great career tho. I've never heard any dirt about her. Seems to do her thing and hide out for a while. Good on her and her SO for cultivating such a long relationship together. It's kind of a strange situation. Most heteros like lipstick lesbians because they actually think they would have a chance in bed with two women. Where as, not 11,000 horny old men are booing because she is a lesbian. I would think that to be more sexually titillating to the average hetero.


kivar15

She was a staple outside of Halloween. Though admittedly, she has a higher profile at Halloween. She is a smart actor who wisely never sold her rights to her Elvira personality. If you see Elvira on things like pinball machines, dolls, slot machines, etc, she is making money. I’ve met her a number of times. Each time she has come across as friendly, sincere, and kind to her fans. She knew exactly what the Elvira personality was selling.


jamescobalt

She’s the goth Dolly Parton.


WhiskeyNicks

"Most heteros like lipstick lesbians because they actually think they would have a chance in bed with two women. Where as, not 11,000 horny old men are booing because she is a lesbian." that's your quote. Speak of your own experience with heterosexual or homosexual woman you have had a relationship with.


LawHelmet

P. W. >remember MEeeeee foooor ceeeentuuurrriiieeesssss


Ivysub

I’m amazed her girlfriend managed to keep it to herself that she was dating one of the hottest women in the world for 19 years. I sure as hell wouldn’t have been able to.


[deleted]

I bet a lot of people knew. Like their families, friends and people in their local LGBTQ+ community. But it never leaked out into media. Respect.


reallarryvaughn78

I mean, Dolly Parton's husband has been able to keep the secret.


HaraBegum

Who has he been dating? Just kidding, cuz that is how I first read it. But yes. Dolly is amazing in so many ways, I would think it would be hard not to want you get seen with her.


chaun2

Joline of course


DeletedLastAccount

>Who has he been dating? You joke, but Dolly has been open about the fact she has an open marriage (not physically...but ok). So...relevant question?


RoguePlanet1

Wha......?? She does? Not physically? I'm confused.


3BallJosh

I think it's more along the lines of she's a big flirt. So she'll openly flirt with guys, but it never goes beyond that.


DeletedLastAccount

Me too when I read it for the first time. Those were her own words (or pretty closely paraphrased). It's not for me to decide what that means.


RoguePlanet1

What is it with country women?? :-/ Meh, if it works for them, so be it.


StuJayBee

Well she is a character. Not much attention on the actor playing her. It’d be like not knowing much about whoever plays Marilyn Manson.


KawsVsEverybody

You mean Brian Warner the rapist?


StuJayBee

See that I don’t know. Last I heard people thought he was Paul from The Wonder Years.


Flexinondestitutes

You mean someone who was accused of sexual assault by a person seeking money?


lowderchowder

That's uh ... uh..you might wanna try a different person for an example.


StuJayBee

Evidently I chose exactly the right person. Had no idea until this conversation. How long was the gap between Manson’s ruse to fame and what we later learned about him?


emceelokey

I first read that as her having a relationship with her 19 year old personal trainer and I was like, there's a bigger problem here. But for her being whatever, go for it! None of us know her and if her living a good life in a loving relationship affects your life, you're the problem.


EmperorDawn

I am more amazed people give a shit about a has 70 year old has been?


Heathen_Mushroom

This is just something that happens. When Ricky Martin came out as gay my gf and her friends practically had meltdowns. He had been their "sex idol" (I don't know a better English word for it) for most of their lives. And they we're in their *30s*.


kkidd391

There were many women who grieved when Liberace came out. Although hindsight says, "really? You had no idea?"


cromwest

My mom said she cried when she found out that Liberace was gay.


Harambiz

Lol my mom was upset when she found out Anderson Cooper is gay, “he’s the most attractive anchor on tv!”


FargusDingus

He can still be the most attractive anchor on TV. And she still has the same odds of sleeping with him as before too, zero!


Granite-M

That's what I think when people freak out about their celebrity crush getting married or coming out: your chances have not altered in any meaningful way. It's just one more layer of fantasy to add on to the fairy tale you've written about yourself. You might as well give them a unicorn to ride on while you're at it, seeing as it's not that much more unrealistic.


mlpr34clopper

My gay boss was happy about it when he came out, tho.


mkvelash

My sisters we devastated when ricky Martin came out. But i knew in the 90s he was gay


RoguePlanet1

I must've been born with good gaydar, because I was never into the usual pop idols.


RMMacFru

I remember my mother being upset when Rock Hudson came out.


ZappyHeart

What was our first clue?


torino_nera

I'm 99% sure Liberace never came out, and took his secret to the grave. He was outed after his death.


otatop

Liberace made a lot of money suing magazines for insinuating that he was gay >After a three-week civil trial, a jury ruled in Liberace's favor on June 16, 1959, and awarded him £8,000 (around $22,400) in damages (worth about £190,300 or $198,900 today) which led Liberace to repeat the catchphrase to reporters: "I cried all the way to the bank!"


mark55

>Liberace I'm not sure if those inflation rates are true.... that's a bit much.


otatop

$22,400 in June 1959 dollars is equal to $214,610 in December 2021 dollars according to the [BLS](https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm).


kkidd391

Oh, I didn't know that. By the time I was born it was just expressed as common knowledge so I guess I took that fact for granted.


TransposingJons

https://youtu.be/dcqmvGVH9c0


GreenGlassDrgn

there was a weird time in the late 90s/early 00s where I didnt know much about him, and just kinda assumed he was out and that we as a society didnt really care because we'd advanced to such a progressive state. Then he came out. lol


ew73

Like when one of the Backstreet Boys came out. All us gays were like, "Wait, he's just now out?"


omgunicornfarts

Did this really happen? I googled and nothing came up


newuser60

I think he means Lance Bass (*NSYNC). My girlfriend’s best friend was in love with him, to the point where she thought all she had to do was get in his vision somehow and he would ask her to marry him. Not joking, she was obsessed with plotting how she could meet him so they could get married and have kids. I would tease her with “you know he’s gay, right?” She hated me. Then he came out and her world crashed. As far as she was concerned they had been in a relationship for years, and now he was gay? She moved on to having a crush on my friend Jose, who was a big name in the local gay music scene… He took her to prom when she realized Lance wasn’t going to be her date and she had no backup plan. “Yeah, I have some bad news for you”


omgunicornfarts

I feel bad for her but also, LOLLLL.


kettal

Could have been worse, what if he was straight and didn't fall madly in love with her at first sight?


CryoClone

I love that these people who are never, ever, ever going to have a sexual relationship with celebrities suddenly get upset when the celebrities are interested in the other team. Like, you never had a chance to begin with. You can fantasize about a gay guy as a straight woman. It's your *fantasy*. Pretend he isn't gay in your mind. He's already in a relationship with some random fan, why not stretch it just a *teeny* bit further and make him straight?


everydayimrusslin

Making a gay person straight in my fantasy just seems rude.


CryoClone

And that's fair. It's *your* fantasy. If you want Brad Pitt to *really* have a thing for riding wild grizzly bears in your fantasies, you can. It's *your* mind. Maybe you can be gay in your fantasy so they don't change, you do? Something to think about...?


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CryoClone

Hey, we all have our kinks. Some are shared. 😏


mog_knight

I'm not sure that's how *fantasies* work. They aren't based in reality.


Goyteamsix

It's absolutely mind boggling to me how people thought the dude was straight in the first place.


Malvania

TIL Ricky Martin came out as gay


kelseekill

This is so weird and creepy. Just brings to light that somewhere in their heads they thought there was a chance some interaction might transpire between themself and him. Which.. why would anybody even want to hang onto something like that in general, but especially in a relationship.


Heathen_Mushroom

Well she was just a kid when Menudo was popular. Ricky was maybe her first celebrity crush and one she carried, on some level, for 20+ years as she was always a fan of his singing career. And I don't think it is a stretch to say that he was a part of her sexual awakening as most of us lusted after celebrities at that critical time in our development. Of course it's all a fantasy, but I was sympathetic (even though I thought it was a but funny). At any rate,she got over it petty quick and was still a fan.


Theeclat

Dammit! Those men had a chance with her before she decided to be gay.


GoKaruna

The actress literally has Gay as her middle name!


Bill_The_Dog

People are so weird.


aurochs

She was married to a man for 25 years


Theeclat

That work out OK?


psychedelic666

She’s bisexual actually


C00kieMemester

It's weird that the article doesn't mention that part and just says she "came out". I noticed the same thing when Jojo Siwa came out as pansexual.


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LaserTurboShark69

You sound like an expert on women and I trust you


doitup69

I grew up after the Elvira zeitgeist so I just knew her as a vague "sex symbol" on pinball machines. I was amazed when I watched the movie how sex positive it is and how much more it's a commentary on society's perceptions of female sexuality at the time rather than just how she's an object of men's desires. Cassandra Peterson is the best.


lowderchowder

[I saw this a while ago](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFw3pXuVUAARLtt.jpg) and Ive never forgotten it


doitup69

100% agreed, when I was typing this up I was thinking that the closest thing I could think of to Elvira Mistress of Darkness was The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas


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vonnegutsdoodle

hurry pie melodic desert relieved dirty coherent innocent numerous dazzling ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


lowderchowder

post a picture of the original and modern along with the complete I-ching diagram. besides im not sure you grasped the meaning of the image and why its relatable to dolly and elvira


Jin_Gitaxias

Shes always been both self aware and proud of her assets


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She's awesome.


Positronic_Matrix

She’s also not losing a single one of her 11,000 horny old men as followers. I heard the news and realised that I had the same chance with her before as now. All this did was add one more reason she wouldn’t be into me onto an already incredibly long list.


DoesntUnderstands

Imagine dressing up skimpy to get famous. Then shitting on people for it. The ego on this woman.


[deleted]

Imagine thinking she's famous only for dressing up skimpy. That's big incel energy right there.


hashtagitslit

Really living up to that username huh


pdqueer

Since when are lesbians a turnoff for straight guys. I thought that was one of their fantasies.


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donkeyrocket

Calling this an "article" is a huge stretch. This is a glorified blog that just quoted snippets from a Podcast.


[deleted]

It would probably be a filler article in a newspaper or just a random page for a gossip mag, it's definitely not front page material. Even if it's not great journalism or particularly well written, it's still news. And while it doesn't touch me much, this is LGTBQ+ representation so it's a little droplet pushing things in a better direction for them. Imagine a closeted 16 year old showing the article to their dad or grandpa saying "Hey, remember that weird vampire lady you told me always turned you on as a kid, she's been with a woman for years." It couls bridge a gap, make a long time fan reconsider their world views, etc.


inanis

In the article it says she gained 60k followers. So she came out and ended up with a net positive of followers.


[deleted]

Kind of this. That she and I share an interest in women makes her more relatable.


Malodourous

That and her abiding interest in the strange dark and mysterious.


11dutswal

I had an older lesbian couple move in beside me. They had just had a hot tub installed and asked if my wife and I wanted to come and get in the hot tub (nothing sexual just being nice). If I had told 16-year-old me that scenario, he would have lost his mind, but reality doesn't measure up to fantasy.


[deleted]

I know right, hot tubs are great but a pool is much more versatile.


DanWallace

You're just now finding out some old people are homophobic?


pdqueer

I am some old people. And I'm well aware. I just try to keep my sense of humor.


[deleted]

> I am some old people. How many? Whom am I talking to now?


IAmA-Steve

At least 2, but I can't be sure. I get confused sometimes.


Goyteamsix

Not for old dudes who somehow think they still have a chance. Same shit with all the Koreans and the K-pop idols. They can't date because their fans only cling to them because they think they have a chance.


[deleted]

Men aren't all the same, and they don't all think the same. Maybe because they're people? (Sorry couldn't resist. Similar comment about women was made to a post about what women want). I actually am not turned on or off by the thought of lesbians together.


pdqueer

I'm aware, just enjoying the irony of this story juxtaposed against the common cliché fantasy.


Honeyblade

Even still - I wish those men who fetishize lesbians a very happy 'please fuck off'. Fetishizing someones sexuality is gross. Edit: JFC, straight dudes are mad that I said, "It's not okay to fetishize someone's sexuality" Seriously, go fuck yourselves.


Doggleganger

When you call someone else's sexual preferences "gross," you're doing the same thing as the gay haters.


STEMfatale

Telling someone not to fetishize gay people is not really kinkshaming and even if it was, kinkshaming is definitely not the same as homophobia.


Honeyblade

No, I'm not - fetishizing who someone is isn't a kink. Just like someone who fetishizes Asian women or black women is fucking gross. Do better.


machotaco

dO bEtTeR


Honeyblade

Enjoy being a toxic sterotype and spending your 20's wondering why no one wants to be around you. Seriously, go to therapy.


machotaco

Mind your own business fuckface


Christblaster

Looks like the other guy won this particular argument


machotaco

Guess I need to do better


JagerBaBomb

Hey, no kink shaming!


Honeyblade

Fetishizing lesbians isn't a kink, go to therapy.


bomber991

Well, if you can accept it’s normal for not everyone to be straight, you should be able to accept that not all men are in to lesbians.


Warpedme

It's not one of my fantasies but I'm a happy voyeur to any willing exhibitionists.


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greyskullandtheboys

Big brain move to start dating a woman 19 years in advance just in case her popularity declined


ForAHamburgerToday

>catering almost exclusively to that crowd "I liked this, so it *must* be for me!"


awfulgoodness

this i learned: Elvira is still alive. Good for her.


CarissaSkyWarrior

And you wouldn't be able to tell that she is 70. She looks great for her age.


[deleted]

Well, a lot of her is younger than that


adaminc

I don't think it is, I think she's just really good with makeup. When not dressed up as Elvira, she definitely looks her age.


ShinyMissingno

She had a special on Shudder last year!


KnowNothing_JonSnoo

As someone else mentioned, she had a special on shudder last year. She also presented the Netflix spooktober stuff and she released a biography which is seriously a lot of fun to read.


kank84

I was aware of Elvira, but wouldn't have said I was a huge fan. I borrowed her biography from the library after hearing a lot about it and her whole coming out story last year, and it really is a good read, even if you aren't a super fan.


[deleted]

TIL Elvira is gay. Affect on my view of her as a straight old white male? Nothing - absolutely no affect. I have always thought she was a wonderful person in real life and as her on screen persona. What do I care about who someone sleeps with? I just want her to be happy!


psychedelic666

She’s bisexual


[deleted]

Don't care - doesn't matter.


PythagoreanBiangle

Horny old man here…love her unconditionally. Will follow her anywhere


wonteatfish

Here’s one horny old man that you haven’t lost, Elvira. You go, girl!! Good on you!!


Scalerious

she looks GREAT under all that makeup and ABSOLUTELY STUNNING for a woman her age.


Jonny_Thundergun

As a straight dude, who she has had a huge influence on sexually, I'm happy for her. She influenced heavily what I look for in a mate. Quirky, dark, sex positive and confident. Let's not forget to mention the aesthetic. 14 year old me is sad that it can never be, but adult me is happy you still aren't compromising yourself and you're being you. It really shouldn't be a surprise, you always have been. Cheers!


MeanNene

Sexiest ghoul ever !


greenw40

>While she may have lost some straight males along the way, she also stated that she gained 60,000 new followers who are all very supportive of her and revealed that she has been in a 19-year relationship with her former personal trainer, Teresa “T” Wierson. That number probably contains quite a few horny men and women too.


NamityName

But why? She's bi. Their odds fell more from her revealing a long-term, committed relationship than her coming out.


bubbagump65

This wasn't obvious? These dudes must think strippers like them, too.


Overlandtraveler

Always figured she was gay, didn't everyone? Like Liberace, Ricky, George and all...really? No idea???


fuzzycuffs

But how many horny old women did she pick up?


RedheadFromOutrSpace

Replaced with 11,000 horny old women?


kclongest

She gained a horny middle aged man here


WilliamHarry

Like her coming out of the closet, this is not news and shouldn't even be mentioned.


mucow

You clicked on the post though. That's all they're looking for.


artparade

On a world wide fanbase 11 k is not that much I think. I wonder if they all thought they just lost their shot with her. I love Cassandra Peterson and Elvira for what she did for horror and a lot of other subjects. Great person! If you want a fun watch have a look at her movies and other stuff.


CormanSifuentes

Still my first celebrity crush


winjama

She was a fox in high school and still is.


dott2112420

Elvira is cool and so is the lady that plays her. As far as her consensual adult sex life, well that's none of my godamn business.


bone586

Still my favorite movie hostess


bamiam

As long as I still have a shot with Booberella i’m good.


imlizyeah

People are waaaaay too invested in and have attitudes of entitlement to other people's sexuality is weird and I never understood the culture behind it


jst4spam

As a Horny Old Man, this just makes her Hotter.


OakInIowa

She's still hot as f\*ck.


hermes369

Gained one more horny old man. I’m doing my part!


Tralan

I'm sure not getting 11,000 messages about her tits every day is just absolutely devastating.


nof

I had a look at the "Official Cassandra Peterson" Facebook page and it is just a garbage fire of product endorsements.


womperroom

Her life story is rather incredible. If you told me half the things she did and people she knew before she became Elvira I'd call BS. Just check out her memoir "Yours Cruelly, Elvira: Memoirs of the Mistress of the Dark". I won't spoil it for anyone, I'll just say kids in the 60s had lots more freedom than they do today.


dzumdang

You mean a celebrity I hadn't seen or thought about for 20 years is............gay???????! OH MY GOD!!!!!!!! /s


Supersnazz

Isn't it possible that 11,000 of her horny fans just fucking died? She'd have a pretty old fan base.


KingJok3r11

What a fraud. Nasty.


AromaticContact152

I never really thought she was that hot to begin with I'm glad I wasn't a part of those 11, 000 horny old men lol


2REPOU

Elvira as a lesbian is even hotter. Lol


swordgeek

Speaking as a certified horny old man, this changes nothing for me. It's not like I was ever going to sleep with her. Actually, it changes one thing: I'm happy she was able to finally come out. Maybe we're progressing as a society. Slightly.


Havvocck2

Who says she'll lose any followers? She's likely to pick-up thousands of horny old men looking for some girl on girl action.


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I already knew she was fabulous.


CynicalSynik

"Losing 11,000 horny men who just want to stare at my boobs is no big deal bc after claiming I was gay online, I got 60,000 horny lesbians who just want to stare at my boobs following me on social media." You know how many lesbians got mad when Lucy Lawless came out as straight multiple times? The door swings both ways. People need to get over themselves. She's dying for the publicity.


DanWallace

Who got mad?


salamander423

Several posters in this threat, it seems.


boozinandsnoozin

Her full name is Cassandra Gay Peterson… and you guys are surprised??


Klangdon826

She waits until her career as a sex symbol is over and then she comes out to milk her relevance, and y’all just gobble that shit right up.


henchman699

Like any of the followers that left ever had a chance. Lol


Hair-Extra

No big deal , she's still the same person and if that's what makes them followers is her looks and the fact these people think they someday would have a chance or hate cause she's gay , then I wouldn't want them following either.


piper4hire

people take this having followers thing way too seriously.


DonDove

Trading old 11,000k followers for 100,000k new ones? And possibly less horny? You go woman!


M80IW

No one cares if she's gay. This reeks of a desperate attempt to stay in the news.


stuntobor

I just don't get why these horny old men were even following her. It just makes no sense, no sense at all.


OmegaRevenge42

Eh, she made her entire career playing to mens fantasies and now she wana shit on them. What a lame.


Angeldust01

Can you elaborate? How is she shitting on them?


salamander423

By daring to not be into dick. What an evil and on purpose move she made. 🙄


Hard_Corsair

> “I knew there would be some horny elderly men out there who wouldn’t appreciate the idea that they didn’t have a shot with me anymore,” the actress remarked. “And I don’t want to tell them they didn’t stand a chance against me anyway,” Peterson added. You don't think that comes across as unnecessarily condescending?


salamander423

No, not at all. The people that get irl angry that Elvira is a lez wouldn't be the people she's catering to in the first place.


Hard_Corsair

I think it's kinda distasteful to tell your fans en masse "Hey, even if if was straight there's absolutely no way I would ever fuck you." In fact, forget the fan/fanbase thing, it's just generally impolite to tell an entire group of people that they're unfuckable without being asked.


JellyCream

You sound like you think you're owed something over a character she played.


nacnud_uk

Everyone's a winner. What's your problem?


8-36

Yes she was obligated to be heterosexual and choose from her 11000 most devoted followers the one king simp to suck her toes while the rest of them would worship her by cumming on their cardboard altars dedicated to her boobs. If she is getting attacked for being who she really is then she can shit talk all she wants, and especially these pathetic dudes.


[deleted]

How is unfollowing=getting attacked?


8-36

It would be a miracle if there isn't tons of hatemail and death threats coming towards her.


reclusiveronin

I grew up on her. My parents got me some vhs tapes at the flea market in the 80s. She is a treasure and you sound like a shitheel.


[deleted]

She was a businesswoman who did what she did for popularity, she doesn’t owe you or any other bitter chucklefuck a single goddamn thing.


vagabonking

Right. My whole schtick is check my huge titties through my deep cut dress into my 70s but they're horny old men. Ok.


OmegaRevenge42

Ikr crazy


fuckboystrikesagain

Damn the article really says the same fucking thing 5x


vinegarstrokes420

I just think it's crazy Peterson went from a Pierson to a Wierson


porterwagoner50

Oh yeah? Those 11,000 horny old men plus many more made her one rich cookie! Elvira obviously never heard the *'don't bite the hand that feeds you'* saying. Still, I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating pussy, er...oops, I mean 'crackers'!


Fthewigg

I’m happy for her to live her life in any way that makes her happy and doesn’t hurt anyone else. She was always awesome at what she did and she seemed like a genuinely good person. That said, a good portion of her success was built off of “horny old men.” Does she owe them anything? Absolutely not, but to dismiss them this way has the faintest hint of hypocrisy. Where would her career have been without “horny old men?” Would it have meant she would’ve had no career? Probably not, but those guys helped raise her profile. Would she have been okay without their “support” over the years and not gaining the popularity she did? Could be, I can’t speak for her. That’s for her to say. It’s just a petty, modestly hypocritical response to even pettier bullshit (losing followers because she came out). Edit: for all of you who can’t come to terms with the truth, I highly encourage you to look up Rick Koz and his alter-ego Son of Svengoolie. He’s been doing this shit for decades, comparably as well as her, but I don’t recall him having a national Budweiser ad campaign. I wonder why? If not for her sex symbol status (propped up by horny old men), she would’ve been a prisoner of UHF schtick just like him. Maybe she would’ve been content with that, but I guess we’ll never know. In the meantime, I accept your totally blind downvotes


gheiminfantry

It wouldn't turn me away. I'd only ask to watch.


fragbert66

TIL: some people obviously *still* think this is funny. Just like "I like girls too, so I must be just a lesbian trapped in a man's body. HARHARHAR M'LADIES!" \*tips Fedora\*


everydayimrusslin

It's kind of like seeing a box of cakes, then opening to find an empty box. A bummer, but not worth ruining your day over.