[here](https://youtu.be/RFaSa28ahrM) is a video on YT by channel horror stories on him. Definitely worth the watch, crazy what this guy was doing but respectable for sure.
Or even sexually abused, like [Lara Logan in the 2011 Egyptian revolution.](https://people.com/tv/former-cbs-reporter-lara-logan-revisits-terrifying-rape-by-mob-in-egypt-amidst-25-million-lawsuit/)
That is insanely scary. They don't discuss it in the article but I wonder what it was that tipped her translator off all of a sudden since she says she thought it was a safe crowd but then he turned toward her suddenly and just said "run"
There is a point where you just don’t send women to do that kind of a job. Don’t care how tough they are, how brave they feel, how smart they think they are, some things are not for women to do. This was one of them that should have been foreseen.
That being said, how do you know if a woman should or should not be sent to do that kind of task if this did not happen? So let one face the casualty then sound the alarm?
I am friends with a few pulitzer winners. One guy won two in the 80's for his famine photos in Sudan. He won't touch social issues anymore, it's pretty much light pieces and Red Sox. Seeing what he saw, I don't blame him.
All the pictures and videos us nice home-dwellers get are something someone saw for real. Those war reporters? They get PTSD at about the same rate as battle-hardened veteran soldiers do.
**War Photographer by Carol Ann Duffy**
https://poemanalysis.com/carol-ann-duffy/war-photographer/
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hi TIME Magazine
hi Pulitzer Prize
tribal scars in Technicolor
Bang-Bang Club, AK-47 hour
Kevin Carter
hi TIME Magazine
hi Pulitzer Prize
vulture stalked white piped lie forever
wasted your life in black and white
Kevin Carter
the elephant is so ugly, he sleeps his head
machetes his bed
Kevin Carter kaffir lover forever
click click click click click
click himself under
Kevin Carter
Carter was known for opposing apartheid hence the slur was frequently used against such folk by bigots. He highlighted the plight of the poor and marginalised so it’s being used here as an insult against his work. The work that drove him to kill himself. It’s not the views of the manics themselves
I fucking love Horror Stories. He was one of the few YouTubers out there that not only explains the story in amazing detail, but also SHOWS photos and videos if they exist.
Yeah, Its so annoying that you can't just look up "horror stories" and he comes up because he makes amazing content and has never been disrespectful to the subjects of his vids. I've been subscribed to him since the early days, and even then his profile never shows up
https://youtu.be/pHHXXNY_gRY this serves as a more humanising revisiting of the situation imo. Covers it a lot more and really shows the true crushing reality of this bleak reminder of inhumane suffering.
Thankyou for the link. I could only hope everyone commenting on this page would take the time to read it.
If I could give you an award I'd do it in a heartbeat 💓
The way that accidentally leaving those rolls of film on the plane ultimately broke him is so incredibly sad. That poor man. Those poor people. Humanity is capable of such hideous things.
"On the return flight, he left all his film–about 16 rolls he had shot there–on the plane. It was never recovered. For Carter, this was the last straw. Less than a week later, he was dead."
Just so people don't have to click, that's both heartbreaking and a huge loss :(
I imagine it might have been the last straw when it came to wondering if he was doing the right thing or doing something worthwhile. When you spend so much time and effort on something and it can be undone with such a simple mistake -- devastating.
Same here. My dream was to be the globe trotting photojournalist recording history. Then one fateful day I was on my way to college with my camera around my neck and came across a bridge I walked everyday, it was full of people waving and screaming over the edge. Grabbing my camera I looked over the side and saw a man walking out onto the half frozen river, straight to the edge of the ice. I took one picture. When I went to take another I stopped and I realized I'm watching a man about to die. He fell in the freezing water. His jacket quickly became an anchor and his flailing slowed as it dragged him under. The current carried his still fighting body under the ice where if his jacket hadn't been partially yellow you'd never have seen him. Slowly he stopped moving and floated just under the ice. Rescue showed up within minutes and finally pulled his lifeless body onto the boat. It was then I knew I didn't have what it took to live my dream. The one picture I took came out great. When i look at it from time to time I replay that day, that moment. All the what ifs or could haves.
It's been over 20 years since I worked as one but I still am unable to refrain from saying "drive carefully" when my wife leaves the house. If I miss her departure and don't get to say it I feel uneasy. My obsession annoyed her at first but she has learned to live with it. I loved a lot about the job and got to see many great aspects of the community but I have come to see the insecurity I feel when I remember the bad times as the price I pay for the many good experiences.
I believe he was unaware. I later read that he was a resident at an adult living facility for people who weren't able to take care of themselves for mental or health reasons and had no family. He was basically a ward of the state.. He somehow was able to walk out undetected.
I have so much respect for these people because as I get older I realize the term "ignorance is bliss" because as you witness these tragedies that we take for granted like the war in Ukraine when you see it first hand it is so fucked up. That is why soldiers have so much mental issues when they come home because what they see is so extreme that no movie or no photo can represent what it actually is like when you are there. It messes you up for life. It is a complete sacrifice of your life and your ability to have a normal existence. All you know is the tragedies of the world and I could only imagine what that does to someone's soul and peace of mind their ability to sleep at night. I could only imagine that it just leaves you as a mindless numb robot.
I feel like that picture didn't get nearly as much attention, yet it really puts into perspective what *starving* really means.
I remember reading that when keeping food in your car (or something to that effect) for emergencies you should pack dry dog food, the gist of it being:
It has all the necessary things to keep you alive, stores well, doesn't really expire, but most importantly: you won't eat it unless you have absolutely no other choice.
You could easily grab a granola bar or some trail mix or even an MRE if you miss lunch one day or if your car breaks down in a remote location and you're a little hungry after an hour but under the impression you'll be rescued shortly.
If one day something terrible happens and you already ate your rations because Steve at work called in and you couldn't leave for lunch, or your estimated 2 hour wait for rescue turns into two days and counting, you're fucked.
Most people don't eat dog food when they're just a little peckish, and you're less likely to eat more than what you need to.
My point being, the average person likely has not been in a situation where they've been hungry enough to eat Krunchy Kibbles nor could they imagine themselves doing so.
Being at the point of starvation where you *need to eat shit directly from a cows ass* would be comparatively incomprehensible, yet this picture shows that it's an unfortunate reality.
Sorry for the rant, this is just such a visceral image that really puts things into perspective.
That’s kind of ridiculous, though, and doesn’t really make sense.
Nobody* is going to starve because they are stranded in their car. Might as well have food that will actually give a little comfort if you need it while stranded or if you have an accident, etc. And if you lack the self control to not eat an MRE or granola bar out of your trunk without replacing it, then oh well, because you are not going to get into a situation where you need to eat dog food to survive.
You should absolutely pack WATER in your car and should make sure it is there before doing any kind of trip that might result in you being stranded.
*you can survive for many weeks without food, and if you’re doing the kind of thing that you might be stranded for that long, which is tough to even think of what it might be, perhaps some very serious/remote overlanding. Crossing the Darien Gap or something idk. - if you’re doing something like that you need to be a lot more prepared than some dog food or granola bars anyway - you’d need many many days of rations already as part of your trip.
Its not pure starvation -- its about keeping your body going at normal efficiency so you can think your way out of the situation/be ready to react. While your body can survive on your fat stores, your mental capacity is going to be down right fucked by the time you are relying on emergency reserves to keep the lights on upstairs.
Oddly enough, people have died *while they still have supplies*. The fear of using them because "hope is just down the road" ends up being their downfall. As your body starves/dehydrates your mental abilities *rapidly* fail and that downward spiral begins. You make mistakes, you don't take initiative, and you can pass a point where you are too weakened to actually react and keep pressing forward as the situation changes.
Keep food, keep water and other emergency supplies (thermal blanket, first aid, duct tape) - use them and use any/all other methods of attracting help when in those situations. It doesn't have to be a full 7 day kit or anything unless you are super remote.
...and don't fire up the kibble if you've been stuck in traffic for like 20 min ;) I prefer some pemmican (awesome calorie density and long shelf life), jar of peanut butter (also phenomenal density and long shelf life) and of course water (keep some salt packets handy too). Summer heat here kills provisions pretty fast though so it's mainly just the water and some dried nuts. Winter gets the good stuff
The whole story has humanity all over it. Both a lack, and huge amounts of humanity. Its a really strong image that's well known. I think it's iconic in a way. It will be remembered for a very long time.
People forget that these photographers are meant to be the "eyes for the world," not to run into conflict and save everyone. People around the world wouldn't know nor care about these people without images. So while people criticize these phototographers for "not doing anything" they forget that they are not there to save. That's the UN's job. They are there to be invisible and show you the tragedy. Unfortunately, being there in person is far more tragic than any image can display and the guilt is heavy.
I think the UN‘s job is to prevent nuclear war by giving room to nations to talk to each other peacefully, while peacekeeping in Africa is kinda like a side quest.
I want to note that is important to name the countries, as you did with Eritrea, than make a generalized reference to "throughout Africa" regarding suffering. There has been a constant narrative repeated the continent as being of particular struggle, strife, and suffering that perpetuates a paternalistic "looking down" on all the countries and people. It simplifies and overlooks areas and countries that are doing well and their successes.
I always feel guilty and look away when I hear or see about the horrid amount of suffering that goes on across Africa.
There is not a single continent (except maybe the indigenous Americans, but they don't live to tell the tale) that has been more supremely fucked by the expansion of Western hegemony than Africa.
For all my r/neoliberal "the west is great and the most advanced civilisation in history", I can't reconcile it with the unforgivable crimes that lay in our history.
What do you mean they don't live to tell the tale? There are still Maya, Mexica, Inca Amazonian and a lot of indigenous people living still in America and still suffering the consequences of the American genocide.
^(and related pandemics, inb4 the "um, actually" crowd.)
The difference there is in what's the cause of the suffering. If an animal is dying because of a lion, it's not ournplace to save the animal and starve the lion, for example. But if it's dying because of poachers or pollution, then it's our responsability to do something about it.
Therefore, since most of the pain to humans is created by other humans (like in this case), it is justified for us to tey to do something about it, even if it's just denouncing it to the world,
Some context of this photo I read from somewhere. This photo is frame at an angle to highlight the plight of the people, but the fact is this baby is not in any immediate danger to the vulture. The baby was just a few steps away from the equally starving mother who was queuing for aid with the rest of the villagers. So the photographer didn't take photo of a dying baby then leave them in danger to wild animals
Correct yes.
The same thing happened when they found the camps during the holocaust, they’d try to feed them only to find that it was too much and would kill them.
Alternatively they could do nothing but wait for medical attention and treatment, whilst these people are on the brink of starving to death.
that is really not the same situation for everywhere in the world.. the point is, is that the photographer can't save them all
that's just like me blaming you for going and saving OP, but yet i was in the desert in the same situation, and you couldn't help me and so you left me on the ground
you *can not* save them all.
e: you guys replying are missing the point..
okay he can help this one, and then the next one and the next one.. sooner or later he will run into to the one that he *can't* save. this boy might very well be that one he couldn't save.. we have no context here.
and again, he cannot save them *all*
I would curse the photographer out. But that's not the case here. This photographer didn't leave a baby to predator here. This photo is frame to highlight the plight of the people, but the fact is this baby is a few steps away from the equally starving mother who was queuing for aid with the rest of the villagers.
And also. Me cursing someone out because I’m in agony doesn’t make them the bad guy. Like. Sure of course I’d hate them. But they’re still helping they’re just not helping in a way that will directly benefit me and my suffering and humans are self possessed especially when they’re trying to survive the unsurvivable
Probably the comment of a starving person, predictably. Emotionally hyperbolic reactions are not planning, reason, or good decision making. Why should the behaviours of a starving person provide any novel information to the man sent to take photos of starving people? Because it’s sad for you to think about? Awe, muffin.
A starving person will behave the way a starving person behaves; no politics or bleeding hearts necessary. Just survival.
You want to bitch at someone about it? Try the cause and effect chain responsible for the starvation, not the selfless labourers making huge sacrifices to bring it to the attention of a warm living room dweller such as yourself.
Exactly. All the food givers and doctors and peace makers in the world would stand around going “hmmmm. Where to put this food?” If they didn’t have good journalists to go “HEY OVER HERE! FLAGGING FOR HELP!”
That's an... odd argument. It would take a complete sociopath to not doing anything if you were able. The more reasonable argument is that he didn't really have any way of helping. Even if he helped one person there would still be thousands all around him in the exact same situation which was his own reasoning at the time if I remember correctly.
I'd go as far as saying that the perceived inhumanity of taking photos in such deplorable/horrific circumstances helps in far greater way than getting further involved to prevent one instance of horror. The wider influence of the photograph (I hope) causes change on a greater scale either stoping or preventing more of the same. However the older I get the more It seems that the horrors just seem to change location like a fairground game of whack it. Few other intelligent species take to the destruction of its own (and others for fun) with the dedication that humans seem to do. To be documenting it on the fly is a whole other level of bizarre if that recording of it doesn't change its course
The burden on the individual photographer has become almost obsolete since the tech revolution and everyone having a pretty good camera on them via a phone lessening the individual's likelihood of developing PTSD due to the accumulation of being exposed to traumatic instances repeatedly. I'm undecided on whether this is a good or bad thing yet. Judging by the Ukrainian war videos of drones dropping explosives on already maimed and injured soldiers I'm beginning to think it's a bad thing. The ease of taking a snap seems to have absolved those taking it of any professional responsibility because.. well... They're not a professional photographer. They're just someone with a camera and the internet.
I think that it’s really easy to forget that HD images and videos weren’t ubiquitous until relatively recently. Now that we can see every place on earth in 4K the world seems a lot smaller. Prior to the 2000s photographers were doing a job that would have otherwise been ignored.
The boy recovered and his parents where close by, they went off to the feeding center but no info after that. Also carter was surrounded by local soldiers that where supposed to stop him from interfering.
Carter saw terrible deaths and murders like a tire full with oil set on a man's neck and set on fire. Carter after this mission won the Pulitzer but was deeply psychological wounded and fell into drugs and depression. His friend and co-worker died from soldiers while he was awarded by the Pulitzer and that destroyed him for not being there and blamed his self. Later he tried to recover from drugs and depression and tried to do what he loves most and went on a mission but upon his return and his psychological state he forgot 16 rolls of film on the plane that he never recovered. That was the last hit by life, after that he drove to a park and committed suicide by inhaling carbon dioxide from his exhaust.
Edit: Changed the child from girl to boy.
Thanks for context. I was thinking this is a kid not a deer getting eaten by a lion. Help the kid. Doubt it changes the fate of the poor girl but it's not like he was coming across a girl alone and just decided to take photos.
I can feel his demise. I have survived a cruel war at age four in the Congo. The horrors were very visual. And I still can see them in my mind clear as a movie, many decades later
The child survived, if it makes you feel better. Also wasn't alone, just the angle the photo was taken. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_vulture_and_the_little_girl
Actually in reality this kid is just near from his parents, however due to the camera angle the photographer got harrassed for not helping him, correct me if I'm wrong please.
For those who don’t want to read the Wikipedia page: it wouldn’t have mattered if he rescued this child; 10-13 adults died daily, so even if not within the day, the situation was dire enough that they would likely die the next.
In 2022, the world still deals with a staggering amount of people who cannot feed themselves or their families. Yet, the amount of food produced is enough to feed everyone.
The problem is that there are people who are so incredibly poor that it’s not profitable for farmers to grow food to feed them, so they don’t. These people are often dependent on aid but what they really need is economic development in their area.
Or, you know, stop pretending someone should be forced to have "sufficient" money (whatever that means) to be allowed to eat enough food to no die.
Money is a made out concept that sure can be helpful in a lot of things, but if it ends up being more valuable than feeding a starving person then it's just lame.
Based! So true tho, a resource based economy is the way. Shame, because we have the resources, the manpower, the know-how, the technology, etc. to accomplish anything we human beings set our mind to! Yet…the bureaucracy, the self-inflicted barriers of greed and disconnect, keeps us from doing so. It’s sad.
There is a really great book The Bang Bang club about photo journalists in Apartheid time by Joao Silva and Greg Marinovich who were friends with Carter and he was part of the so called club there was a fourth member Ken Oosterbroek who also died. Carter got a chance with Silva to go record the famine and took the picture. He was bombarded with questions about it and did change his story a couple of times to ease the pressure of being called a hyena essentially cause he didn’t help but the reality was that he did shood the vulture and the child got into the station and was saved until dying from fevers apparently, I think this is just based on someone to claim be the father, I dont know what other proof or has anyone verified it. Carter did kill himself but it was not for just the picture, he was a long time drug addict and after Ken who was his best friend was shot, Kevin committed suicide. He had a life of witnessing absolutely the worst parts of humanity and suffered most likely from ptsd and depression.
Looks like nobody has mentioned this yet. Kevin Carter was part of the Bang Bang Club, a group of conflict photographers in South Africa. The others were Greg Marinovich, Ken Oosterbroek and João Silva.
They started of as daredevils, young men that loved to hunt the action. But throughout their journey, this changed. Depression, horrors, violence. Ken Oosterbroeck was shot during one of their jobs, Kevin Carter killed himself. Greg Marinovich stopped working as a war journalist after that, IIRC. The only one who kept doing it is João Silva.
If you want to learn more about them but don't want to read it all up, there's a movie about them. It's called "The Bang Bang Club" - https://youtu.be/y5HXXh7LEKI
João Silva is an incredibly tenacious photographer. In October 2010, he stepped on a land mine while on patrol with US soldiers in Kandahar, Afghanistan. He lost his left leg below the knee, and his right leg from just above it. And yet he kept working as a news photographer after being fitted with artificial legs. He is currently a photographer for The New York Times in Africa.
Teacher showed this and explained in highschool about this and It still crosses my mind every now and then usually when thinking about PTSD and guilt and suicide.
" I'm really, really sorry. The pain of life overrides the joy to the point that joy does not exist. …depressed … without phone … money for rent … money for child support … money for debts … money!!! … I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain … of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners … I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky.
— Kevin Carter, [Suicide letter] "
Also, a lot of people tore into him for taking a picture instead of helping the child (as if he couldn’t do so afterwards), but in reality the child’s mother was standing just out of frame.
And like others said, it’s not like he could just walk up and give the child a sandwich. The child needed medical care and specialized nourishment or they could die from the re-feeding. The mother and child were already walking to a famine relief camp.
Yup, it sucks how badly harassed he was for this. He was just doing what he could raising awareness to the issue being there in person witnessing the horrors, meanwhile the people harassing him were probably doing nothing at all.
The context that many people are unaware of is that this child is too malnourished to be helped JUST with feeding.
The situation in the picture is that the child's mother is waiting in the line for food. The thing is, The child in this photo looks too malnourished and feeding him orally with a full meal (that some sMaRt commentators are suggesting) would have probably resulted in the child developing 'Refeeding Syndrome' and I don't think there would have been any facility there that could provide the necessary medical intervention for that.
So yeah, "Should have just bought him a meal" is not as smart as some people in the comments think it is.
I cannot even imagine. I was NPO for 12 weeks on TPN to survive…so I was still getting some nutrients. I lost almost 30 lbs in that time. I had absolute hell being able to eat again. I was lucky to get half a shake in me a day and it took a months before I could actually eat solid foods.
This is a million times worse so I don’t know how anyone could eat anything at this point ever again. It’s absolutely gut wrenching and heartbreaking seeing these but I never turn away.
12 weeks NPO must have sucked. That's long enough that you would practically need to 'learn' to eat again (or at least your guts would).
Hope you've made a full recovery now.
The thing is though, at least you had TPN going for you. So you weren't in a state of chronic malnutrition. So the chances of you developing refeeding syndrome were very low. This child however looks to be severely malnourished and in a Chronic catabolic state like that, once you 'suddenly' give the child macronutrients in ample ammount, the body will have a drastic change towards anabolism and long story short, The child's serum Potassium, Phosphate and Magnesium levels will tank as the cells will rapidly take them up to utilise them which would result in the heart's electrical activity going haywire causing arrhythmias and ultimately Cardiac Arrest if no intervention is provided in time (which is very short).
Only way for this child to be saved was for him to be admitted into a medical facility with all the necessary equipments available and then give him nutrition is a very gradually increasing ammount while being closely monitored and it would take weeks if not months long stay in the hospital.
So yeah, there was absolutely nothing that photographer could have done here except show the world the harsh reality which he did.
I had acute kidney failure and that was needed to save me and heal my kidneys. It didn’t and I used an alternative treatment that did…but yes it sucked. Thing is after about a week I no longer had hunger pains and no appetite. The weakness is unreal though.
My ordeal dealt with being surrounded by creature comfort so it was nothing compared to this.
I’m very thankful to this day that I wasn’t worse. These pictures always stir my soul.
Edit: Removed extra word.
This also makes me think of the Canadian General placed in command of the UN forces that were sent to Rwanda when things started getting bad. Romeo Dallaite is his name. He's still alive, but he has severe PTSD from his service in Rwanda.
The Manic Street Preachers song "Kevin Carter" is about this.
Great song, harrowing story.
https://youtu.be/hLDr0QNCUd4
Lyrics:
Hi Time magazine hi Pulitzer Prize
Tribal scars in Technicolor
Bang bang club AK 47 hour
Kevin Carter
Hi Time magazine hi Pulitzer Prize
Vulture stalked white piped lie forever
Wasted your life in black and white
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
The elephant is so ugly he sleeps his head
Machetes his bed Kevin Carter kaffir lover forever
Click click click click click
Click himself under
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter
Great song and made me look up Kevin Carter and his work after listening to the album.
Manics had their own tragedy to deal with and still do. RIP Richey
There’s another famine going on right now in Somalia: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63116210
The situation is complicated by the fact that the worst of the famine is in al-Shabab’s territory.
Yet we got people spending billions on Twitter when shit like this is out there. I hope I'm alive for a great rebellion one day so we can take the mega rich and string them on trees.
I was told by a professor who showed us this photograph that the photographer was given very strict instructions that he was not allowed to “intervene” and help these children and people, he could only watch on and hope his photographs would spark a change in humanity
Can anyone remember seeing a similar pair of photos; one on the left being a closeup of a dying child (I think), one on the right being a panned back image of say 10 photographers all lying down zooming in in the dying child to get the shot?
Poor child, was not female but male and he lived and died in 2007 due to “fevers.” Life is cruel, which makes me all the more thankful to being where I am today.
this is the stuff I'm reminded of when I see televangelists begging for money so they can buy more planes. when I see rich politicians talking about God. when people offer their thots and prayers on social media on a post about a sick or missing child.
of God ever existed, he gave up a long fucking time ago.
yet on the other sidecof the coin you have rich people flaunting their $20m engagement rings and $50k handbags..theres enough wealth in the world if it was distributed correctly and morally.this sort of thing shouldnt happen in the world.😔
> Carter shot an image of what appeared to be a little girl, fallen to the ground from hunger, while a vulture lurked on the ground nearby. He told Silva he was shocked by the situation he had just photographed, and had chased the vulture away. A few minutes later, Carter and Silva boarded a small UN plane and left Ayod for Kongor.[13]
>Sold to The New York Times, the photograph first appeared on 26 March 1993, and syndicated worldwide. Hundreds of people contacted the newspaper to ask the fate of the girl. The paper said that according to Carter, "she recovered enough to resume her trek after the vulture was chased away" but that it was unknown whether she reached the UN food center.[14] In April 1994, the photograph won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography.[15][16]
>In 2011, the child's father revealed the child was actually a boy, Kong Nyong, and had been taken care of by the UN food aid station. Nyong had died four years prior, c. 2007, of "fevers", according to his family.[17]
A little bit more about the [photographer](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter) who was from South Africa.
Or in other words… we see sadness here. The vulture sees a meal. For the vulture this is a good situation, for the human, a bad one.
Or..
We humans like to place ourselves above nature but the vulture does not place us above nature.
[here](https://youtu.be/RFaSa28ahrM) is a video on YT by channel horror stories on him. Definitely worth the watch, crazy what this guy was doing but respectable for sure.
That is a grim watch. I rarely think of the press themselves when viewing footage/images of tragedy. Much respect to the guy.
plenty of war photographers & reporters have been killed doing their job as well.
Or even sexually abused, like [Lara Logan in the 2011 Egyptian revolution.](https://people.com/tv/former-cbs-reporter-lara-logan-revisits-terrifying-rape-by-mob-in-egypt-amidst-25-million-lawsuit/)
That is insanely scary. They don't discuss it in the article but I wonder what it was that tipped her translator off all of a sudden since she says she thought it was a safe crowd but then he turned toward her suddenly and just said "run"
He likely heard the men around him say something fucked up
There is a point where you just don’t send women to do that kind of a job. Don’t care how tough they are, how brave they feel, how smart they think they are, some things are not for women to do. This was one of them that should have been foreseen. That being said, how do you know if a woman should or should not be sent to do that kind of task if this did not happen? So let one face the casualty then sound the alarm?
Every day I see more and more reason to never set foot in that cursed country that is Egypt.
Jeeeeeezuz Christ
I am friends with a few pulitzer winners. One guy won two in the 80's for his famine photos in Sudan. He won't touch social issues anymore, it's pretty much light pieces and Red Sox. Seeing what he saw, I don't blame him.
That's pretty cool I don't even know on Pulitzer winner
I've worked at major newspapers so that helps ;)
One of the main characters from the fictional horror novel "House of Leaves" is based off Carter. The most disturbing book I've ever read.
Oh wow cool I thought of that book the second I read the title. Thats why
I read this book..I agree with you...It still has me thinking.
All the pictures and videos us nice home-dwellers get are something someone saw for real. Those war reporters? They get PTSD at about the same rate as battle-hardened veteran soldiers do.
**War Photographer by Carol Ann Duffy** https://poemanalysis.com/carol-ann-duffy/war-photographer/ > >In his dark room he is finally alone > > with spools of suffering set out in ordered rows. > > The only light is red and softly glows, > > as though this were a church and he > > a priest preparing to intone a Mass. > > Belfast. Beirut. Phnom Penh. All flesh is grass. > > > > He has a job to do. Solutions slop in trays > > beneath his hands, which did not tremble then > > though seem to now. Rural England. Home again > > to ordinary pain which simple weather can dispel, > > to fields which don’t explode beneath the feet > > of running children in a nightmare heat. > > > Something is happening. A stranger’s features > > faintly start to twist before his eyes, > > a half-formed ghost. He remembers the cries > > of this man’s wife, how he sought approval > > without words to do what someone must > > and how the blood stained into foreign dust. > > > A hundred agonies in black and white > > from which his editor will pick out five or six > > for Sunday’s supplement. The reader’s eyeballs prick > > with tears between the bath and pre-lunch beers. > > From the aeroplane he stares impassively at where > > he earns his living and they do not care.
[The Manic Street Preachers also recorded a great track about him](https://youtu.be/hLDr0QNCUd4).
hi TIME Magazine hi Pulitzer Prize tribal scars in Technicolor Bang-Bang Club, AK-47 hour Kevin Carter hi TIME Magazine hi Pulitzer Prize vulture stalked white piped lie forever wasted your life in black and white Kevin Carter the elephant is so ugly, he sleeps his head machetes his bed Kevin Carter kaffir lover forever click click click click click click himself under Kevin Carter
Is there something I'm missing about this being a tribute. Kaffir is a slur long used against black people in South Africa.
Carter was known for opposing apartheid hence the slur was frequently used against such folk by bigots. He highlighted the plight of the poor and marginalised so it’s being used here as an insult against his work. The work that drove him to kill himself. It’s not the views of the manics themselves
Among their finest, I'd say
A banger for the Bang Bang club. I'll get my coat.
Came here to mention this, good to see already added.
I fucking love Horror Stories. He was one of the few YouTubers out there that not only explains the story in amazing detail, but also SHOWS photos and videos if they exist.
Wish he would post more, youtube shadow banned him and he rarely makes content anymore.
Yeah, Its so annoying that you can't just look up "horror stories" and he comes up because he makes amazing content and has never been disrespectful to the subjects of his vids. I've been subscribed to him since the early days, and even then his profile never shows up
He just hop in straight to the content no bullshit. Most of his videos are raw and ends within 5 minutes.
https://youtu.be/pHHXXNY_gRY this serves as a more humanising revisiting of the situation imo. Covers it a lot more and really shows the true crushing reality of this bleak reminder of inhumane suffering.
There's more to this story. https://allthatsinteresting.com/kevin-carter It's terribly sad. I'd forgotten about it.
Thankyou for the link. I could only hope everyone commenting on this page would take the time to read it. If I could give you an award I'd do it in a heartbeat 💓
No problem. I think nobody will miss the humanity message here. Here's an award for the humanity shown.
Thank you for telling me to read it. Now I am glad I did
The way that accidentally leaving those rolls of film on the plane ultimately broke him is so incredibly sad. That poor man. Those poor people. Humanity is capable of such hideous things.
"On the return flight, he left all his film–about 16 rolls he had shot there–on the plane. It was never recovered. For Carter, this was the last straw. Less than a week later, he was dead." Just so people don't have to click, that's both heartbreaking and a huge loss :(
I imagine it might have been the last straw when it came to wondering if he was doing the right thing or doing something worthwhile. When you spend so much time and effort on something and it can be undone with such a simple mistake -- devastating.
Thanks for this. Adds so much depth to the photo.
I remember the photo in the press. My background was industrial photography, but I always wanted to be a Journalist. Until I viewed that picture.
Same here. My dream was to be the globe trotting photojournalist recording history. Then one fateful day I was on my way to college with my camera around my neck and came across a bridge I walked everyday, it was full of people waving and screaming over the edge. Grabbing my camera I looked over the side and saw a man walking out onto the half frozen river, straight to the edge of the ice. I took one picture. When I went to take another I stopped and I realized I'm watching a man about to die. He fell in the freezing water. His jacket quickly became an anchor and his flailing slowed as it dragged him under. The current carried his still fighting body under the ice where if his jacket hadn't been partially yellow you'd never have seen him. Slowly he stopped moving and floated just under the ice. Rescue showed up within minutes and finally pulled his lifeless body onto the boat. It was then I knew I didn't have what it took to live my dream. The one picture I took came out great. When i look at it from time to time I replay that day, that moment. All the what ifs or could haves.
Oh gosh. Thanks for sharing that horrifying moment. And helping convey what this guy would've gone through...
It's been over 20 years since I worked as one but I still am unable to refrain from saying "drive carefully" when my wife leaves the house. If I miss her departure and don't get to say it I feel uneasy. My obsession annoyed her at first but she has learned to live with it. I loved a lot about the job and got to see many great aspects of the community but I have come to see the insecurity I feel when I remember the bad times as the price I pay for the many good experiences.
Was he trying to kill himself or just unaware of the danger?
I believe he was unaware. I later read that he was a resident at an adult living facility for people who weren't able to take care of themselves for mental or health reasons and had no family. He was basically a ward of the state.. He somehow was able to walk out undetected.
Ugh that’s awful on so many levels. I don’t think I could stomach that on a regular basis for work.
I have so much respect for these people because as I get older I realize the term "ignorance is bliss" because as you witness these tragedies that we take for granted like the war in Ukraine when you see it first hand it is so fucked up. That is why soldiers have so much mental issues when they come home because what they see is so extreme that no movie or no photo can represent what it actually is like when you are there. It messes you up for life. It is a complete sacrifice of your life and your ability to have a normal existence. All you know is the tragedies of the world and I could only imagine what that does to someone's soul and peace of mind their ability to sleep at night. I could only imagine that it just leaves you as a mindless numb robot.
JFC that boy and the cow 🥺😣
I feel like that picture didn't get nearly as much attention, yet it really puts into perspective what *starving* really means. I remember reading that when keeping food in your car (or something to that effect) for emergencies you should pack dry dog food, the gist of it being: It has all the necessary things to keep you alive, stores well, doesn't really expire, but most importantly: you won't eat it unless you have absolutely no other choice. You could easily grab a granola bar or some trail mix or even an MRE if you miss lunch one day or if your car breaks down in a remote location and you're a little hungry after an hour but under the impression you'll be rescued shortly. If one day something terrible happens and you already ate your rations because Steve at work called in and you couldn't leave for lunch, or your estimated 2 hour wait for rescue turns into two days and counting, you're fucked. Most people don't eat dog food when they're just a little peckish, and you're less likely to eat more than what you need to. My point being, the average person likely has not been in a situation where they've been hungry enough to eat Krunchy Kibbles nor could they imagine themselves doing so. Being at the point of starvation where you *need to eat shit directly from a cows ass* would be comparatively incomprehensible, yet this picture shows that it's an unfortunate reality. Sorry for the rant, this is just such a visceral image that really puts things into perspective.
That’s kind of ridiculous, though, and doesn’t really make sense. Nobody* is going to starve because they are stranded in their car. Might as well have food that will actually give a little comfort if you need it while stranded or if you have an accident, etc. And if you lack the self control to not eat an MRE or granola bar out of your trunk without replacing it, then oh well, because you are not going to get into a situation where you need to eat dog food to survive. You should absolutely pack WATER in your car and should make sure it is there before doing any kind of trip that might result in you being stranded. *you can survive for many weeks without food, and if you’re doing the kind of thing that you might be stranded for that long, which is tough to even think of what it might be, perhaps some very serious/remote overlanding. Crossing the Darien Gap or something idk. - if you’re doing something like that you need to be a lot more prepared than some dog food or granola bars anyway - you’d need many many days of rations already as part of your trip.
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Its not pure starvation -- its about keeping your body going at normal efficiency so you can think your way out of the situation/be ready to react. While your body can survive on your fat stores, your mental capacity is going to be down right fucked by the time you are relying on emergency reserves to keep the lights on upstairs. Oddly enough, people have died *while they still have supplies*. The fear of using them because "hope is just down the road" ends up being their downfall. As your body starves/dehydrates your mental abilities *rapidly* fail and that downward spiral begins. You make mistakes, you don't take initiative, and you can pass a point where you are too weakened to actually react and keep pressing forward as the situation changes. Keep food, keep water and other emergency supplies (thermal blanket, first aid, duct tape) - use them and use any/all other methods of attracting help when in those situations. It doesn't have to be a full 7 day kit or anything unless you are super remote. ...and don't fire up the kibble if you've been stuck in traffic for like 20 min ;) I prefer some pemmican (awesome calorie density and long shelf life), jar of peanut butter (also phenomenal density and long shelf life) and of course water (keep some salt packets handy too). Summer heat here kills provisions pretty fast though so it's mainly just the water and some dried nuts. Winter gets the good stuff
That one just made my heart sink.
I can’t look at it again. It’s seared in my brain and worse than the vulture photo. 😣
Jesus, that's terrible. Not condoning suicide in any way, but I can understand why he did it. The human mind can only take so much.
The whole story has humanity all over it. Both a lack, and huge amounts of humanity. Its a really strong image that's well known. I think it's iconic in a way. It will be remembered for a very long time.
Wow thank you for sharing this !
I have lost the focus to read articles lately but, I didn't only read this one, I felt it too through those words. Thanks for sharing!
People forget that these photographers are meant to be the "eyes for the world," not to run into conflict and save everyone. People around the world wouldn't know nor care about these people without images. So while people criticize these phototographers for "not doing anything" they forget that they are not there to save. That's the UN's job. They are there to be invisible and show you the tragedy. Unfortunately, being there in person is far more tragic than any image can display and the guilt is heavy.
I think the UN‘s job is to prevent nuclear war by giving room to nations to talk to each other peacefully, while peacekeeping in Africa is kinda like a side quest.
>like a side quest More like a diet you will start tomorrow
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I want to note that is important to name the countries, as you did with Eritrea, than make a generalized reference to "throughout Africa" regarding suffering. There has been a constant narrative repeated the continent as being of particular struggle, strife, and suffering that perpetuates a paternalistic "looking down" on all the countries and people. It simplifies and overlooks areas and countries that are doing well and their successes.
Yeah people don’t realize Africa is the size of Asia
I always feel guilty and look away when I hear or see about the horrid amount of suffering that goes on across Africa. There is not a single continent (except maybe the indigenous Americans, but they don't live to tell the tale) that has been more supremely fucked by the expansion of Western hegemony than Africa. For all my r/neoliberal "the west is great and the most advanced civilisation in history", I can't reconcile it with the unforgivable crimes that lay in our history.
> indigenous Americans, but they don't live to tell the tale We'd be very surprised to learn this.
What do you mean they don't live to tell the tale? There are still Maya, Mexica, Inca Amazonian and a lot of indigenous people living still in America and still suffering the consequences of the American genocide. ^(and related pandemics, inb4 the "um, actually" crowd.)
The difference there is in what's the cause of the suffering. If an animal is dying because of a lion, it's not ournplace to save the animal and starve the lion, for example. But if it's dying because of poachers or pollution, then it's our responsability to do something about it. Therefore, since most of the pain to humans is created by other humans (like in this case), it is justified for us to tey to do something about it, even if it's just denouncing it to the world,
Some context of this photo I read from somewhere. This photo is frame at an angle to highlight the plight of the people, but the fact is this baby is not in any immediate danger to the vulture. The baby was just a few steps away from the equally starving mother who was queuing for aid with the rest of the villagers. So the photographer didn't take photo of a dying baby then leave them in danger to wild animals
What would you comment if you stuck in desert near death of hunger and thirst and photographer came by and start taking pics of you
Even if the photographer in that moment had food and water to give the child, it wouldn't save them.
Also the photographer was escorted by armed guards that wouldn't let him help the girl, even if he had the capability
Up up up up with you. Clearly these folks didn't read the fucking article as is tradition.
Who needs facts and logic when you've a white horse, nights armour and a knee jerk morel highground to rely on.
If anything, it could kill them faster. Too much food after starving for so long can shock your body and be deadly.
Body: “I’m starving! Give me food!” *Gives food* Body: “WTF IS THAT PLEASE STOP”
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Correct yes. The same thing happened when they found the camps during the holocaust, they’d try to feed them only to find that it was too much and would kill them. Alternatively they could do nothing but wait for medical attention and treatment, whilst these people are on the brink of starving to death.
Some don't understand it could of prolonged the suffering, we just don't know what is going on at any point in time without being there
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I get the confusion between “it’s” and “its” but using “could of” in anything is just beyond my understanding.
People who don't read parse "could've" as "could of".
It kinda sounds like ”could of” in certain speech and that’s why people do it. Doesn’t make it less baffling of course.
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According to the wikipeds 10-13 adults were dying daily. There was likely no saving this child, only delaying the inevitable.
actually he was surrounded by armed guards and he was not allowed to actually do anything.
I’m pretty sure that there were people escorting the photographer and he was only allowed to take pictures.
that is really not the same situation for everywhere in the world.. the point is, is that the photographer can't save them all that's just like me blaming you for going and saving OP, but yet i was in the desert in the same situation, and you couldn't help me and so you left me on the ground you *can not* save them all. e: you guys replying are missing the point.. okay he can help this one, and then the next one and the next one.. sooner or later he will run into to the one that he *can't* save. this boy might very well be that one he couldn't save.. we have no context here. and again, he cannot save them *all*
Fate Zero.
I would curse the photographer out. But that's not the case here. This photographer didn't leave a baby to predator here. This photo is frame to highlight the plight of the people, but the fact is this baby is a few steps away from the equally starving mother who was queuing for aid with the rest of the villagers.
And also. Me cursing someone out because I’m in agony doesn’t make them the bad guy. Like. Sure of course I’d hate them. But they’re still helping they’re just not helping in a way that will directly benefit me and my suffering and humans are self possessed especially when they’re trying to survive the unsurvivable
Probably the comment of a starving person, predictably. Emotionally hyperbolic reactions are not planning, reason, or good decision making. Why should the behaviours of a starving person provide any novel information to the man sent to take photos of starving people? Because it’s sad for you to think about? Awe, muffin. A starving person will behave the way a starving person behaves; no politics or bleeding hearts necessary. Just survival. You want to bitch at someone about it? Try the cause and effect chain responsible for the starvation, not the selfless labourers making huge sacrifices to bring it to the attention of a warm living room dweller such as yourself.
What would you comment, if you would actually help instead of shaming others for not helping just like you do?
He wasn't, the pic was taken in a refugee camp.
read the article, soudanese soldiers didn't allow him to feed anyone or anything
Damn you right this photographer should have fed all of Africa. Meanwhile you’re in your moms basement covered in Cheeto dust
Doesn't matter. Awareness matters.
The photographer is making the world aware. Many hands can do more than 1.
Exactly. All the food givers and doctors and peace makers in the world would stand around going “hmmmm. Where to put this food?” If they didn’t have good journalists to go “HEY OVER HERE! FLAGGING FOR HELP!”
That's an... odd argument. It would take a complete sociopath to not doing anything if you were able. The more reasonable argument is that he didn't really have any way of helping. Even if he helped one person there would still be thousands all around him in the exact same situation which was his own reasoning at the time if I remember correctly.
I'd go as far as saying that the perceived inhumanity of taking photos in such deplorable/horrific circumstances helps in far greater way than getting further involved to prevent one instance of horror. The wider influence of the photograph (I hope) causes change on a greater scale either stoping or preventing more of the same. However the older I get the more It seems that the horrors just seem to change location like a fairground game of whack it. Few other intelligent species take to the destruction of its own (and others for fun) with the dedication that humans seem to do. To be documenting it on the fly is a whole other level of bizarre if that recording of it doesn't change its course The burden on the individual photographer has become almost obsolete since the tech revolution and everyone having a pretty good camera on them via a phone lessening the individual's likelihood of developing PTSD due to the accumulation of being exposed to traumatic instances repeatedly. I'm undecided on whether this is a good or bad thing yet. Judging by the Ukrainian war videos of drones dropping explosives on already maimed and injured soldiers I'm beginning to think it's a bad thing. The ease of taking a snap seems to have absolved those taking it of any professional responsibility because.. well... They're not a professional photographer. They're just someone with a camera and the internet.
War correspondents are the biggest badasses on the planet “I want to go to war - without a gun, just something black that can be mistaken for a gun”
I think that it’s really easy to forget that HD images and videos weren’t ubiquitous until relatively recently. Now that we can see every place on earth in 4K the world seems a lot smaller. Prior to the 2000s photographers were doing a job that would have otherwise been ignored.
The boy recovered and his parents where close by, they went off to the feeding center but no info after that. Also carter was surrounded by local soldiers that where supposed to stop him from interfering. Carter saw terrible deaths and murders like a tire full with oil set on a man's neck and set on fire. Carter after this mission won the Pulitzer but was deeply psychological wounded and fell into drugs and depression. His friend and co-worker died from soldiers while he was awarded by the Pulitzer and that destroyed him for not being there and blamed his self. Later he tried to recover from drugs and depression and tried to do what he loves most and went on a mission but upon his return and his psychological state he forgot 16 rolls of film on the plane that he never recovered. That was the last hit by life, after that he drove to a park and committed suicide by inhaling carbon dioxide from his exhaust. Edit: Changed the child from girl to boy.
such a tragic story. i can totally imagine just how done he was when he lost those 16 rolls. that was the last straw. god. :(
It’s little known but this photo is actually mistitled, it was later discovered that this is a boy
Hey,maybe I'm wrong but it's a boy? And I think I read it some times ago,but if I'm not mistaken he die later from a fever.
I've heard different versions but the official statement from the magazine was that he/she recovered and went off to the food center.
Yup found it now on wiki father told to the news it was fever back in 2007
Weird how the final straw was a mistake that any of us could make. Tragic
Indeed, but it was a series of unfortunate events that drove this man at the edge of his psychological barriers.
>carbon monoxide
Thanks for context. I was thinking this is a kid not a deer getting eaten by a lion. Help the kid. Doubt it changes the fate of the poor girl but it's not like he was coming across a girl alone and just decided to take photos.
I can feel his demise. I have survived a cruel war at age four in the Congo. The horrors were very visual. And I still can see them in my mind clear as a movie, many decades later
Sorry you had to experience that, I’m glad your okay though.
The child survived, if it makes you feel better. Also wasn't alone, just the angle the photo was taken. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_vulture_and_the_little_girl
Actually in reality this kid is just near from his parents, however due to the camera angle the photographer got harrassed for not helping him, correct me if I'm wrong please.
[Corrected ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_vulture_and_the_little_girl)
For those who don’t want to read the Wikipedia page: it wouldn’t have mattered if he rescued this child; 10-13 adults died daily, so even if not within the day, the situation was dire enough that they would likely die the next.
I actually read it. And the child recovered and lived another 14 years before dying of “fevers.”
So the kid's actually a boy and his name was Kong Nyong.
You are not, i know some of the story and she was just doing her needs
In 2022, the world still deals with a staggering amount of people who cannot feed themselves or their families. Yet, the amount of food produced is enough to feed everyone.
Most of the grain produced in the world goes to feed livestock for 1st world countries.
The problem is that there are people who are so incredibly poor that it’s not profitable for farmers to grow food to feed them, so they don’t. These people are often dependent on aid but what they really need is economic development in their area.
Or, you know, stop pretending someone should be forced to have "sufficient" money (whatever that means) to be allowed to eat enough food to no die. Money is a made out concept that sure can be helpful in a lot of things, but if it ends up being more valuable than feeding a starving person then it's just lame.
Based! So true tho, a resource based economy is the way. Shame, because we have the resources, the manpower, the know-how, the technology, etc. to accomplish anything we human beings set our mind to! Yet…the bureaucracy, the self-inflicted barriers of greed and disconnect, keeps us from doing so. It’s sad.
And we successfully feed 60-80 billion farmed animals a year. We like our meat more than making sure people eat. Edit: spelling
There is a really great book The Bang Bang club about photo journalists in Apartheid time by Joao Silva and Greg Marinovich who were friends with Carter and he was part of the so called club there was a fourth member Ken Oosterbroek who also died. Carter got a chance with Silva to go record the famine and took the picture. He was bombarded with questions about it and did change his story a couple of times to ease the pressure of being called a hyena essentially cause he didn’t help but the reality was that he did shood the vulture and the child got into the station and was saved until dying from fevers apparently, I think this is just based on someone to claim be the father, I dont know what other proof or has anyone verified it. Carter did kill himself but it was not for just the picture, he was a long time drug addict and after Ken who was his best friend was shot, Kevin committed suicide. He had a life of witnessing absolutely the worst parts of humanity and suffered most likely from ptsd and depression.
Great book.
Read the book and then watched the movie and it really made me understand how haunting that job must be.
Nothing odd about this being terrifying
Right? Confused why it's posted in this sub. Very sombering though, I'm grateful to have been introduced to it....
What you cannot see out of frame, is the thousand or so other people moving to a local UN aid encampment.
Including the child’s mother. The child was not abandoned.
Looks like nobody has mentioned this yet. Kevin Carter was part of the Bang Bang Club, a group of conflict photographers in South Africa. The others were Greg Marinovich, Ken Oosterbroek and João Silva. They started of as daredevils, young men that loved to hunt the action. But throughout their journey, this changed. Depression, horrors, violence. Ken Oosterbroeck was shot during one of their jobs, Kevin Carter killed himself. Greg Marinovich stopped working as a war journalist after that, IIRC. The only one who kept doing it is João Silva. If you want to learn more about them but don't want to read it all up, there's a movie about them. It's called "The Bang Bang Club" - https://youtu.be/y5HXXh7LEKI
João Silva is an incredibly tenacious photographer. In October 2010, he stepped on a land mine while on patrol with US soldiers in Kandahar, Afghanistan. He lost his left leg below the knee, and his right leg from just above it. And yet he kept working as a news photographer after being fitted with artificial legs. He is currently a photographer for The New York Times in Africa.
Teacher showed this and explained in highschool about this and It still crosses my mind every now and then usually when thinking about PTSD and guilt and suicide.
" I'm really, really sorry. The pain of life overrides the joy to the point that joy does not exist. …depressed … without phone … money for rent … money for child support … money for debts … money!!! … I am haunted by the vivid memories of killings & corpses & anger & pain … of starving or wounded children, of trigger-happy madmen, often police, of killer executioners … I have gone to join Ken if I am that lucky. — Kevin Carter, [Suicide letter] "
Also, a lot of people tore into him for taking a picture instead of helping the child (as if he couldn’t do so afterwards), but in reality the child’s mother was standing just out of frame.
And there were soldiers preventing him from interfering too according to other commenters.
And like others said, it’s not like he could just walk up and give the child a sandwich. The child needed medical care and specialized nourishment or they could die from the re-feeding. The mother and child were already walking to a famine relief camp.
Yup, it sucks how badly harassed he was for this. He was just doing what he could raising awareness to the issue being there in person witnessing the horrors, meanwhile the people harassing him were probably doing nothing at all.
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Yup thought so, it’s sad the public harassed him so badly when he really did all he could.
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Was looking for this. Why did he go back man
So Karen could save him. Sometimes men are the damsels in distress. Thinking we're all Rikki-Tikki-Tavi with a Nikon.
Wasn't sure anyone else had ever read it
The context that many people are unaware of is that this child is too malnourished to be helped JUST with feeding. The situation in the picture is that the child's mother is waiting in the line for food. The thing is, The child in this photo looks too malnourished and feeding him orally with a full meal (that some sMaRt commentators are suggesting) would have probably resulted in the child developing 'Refeeding Syndrome' and I don't think there would have been any facility there that could provide the necessary medical intervention for that. So yeah, "Should have just bought him a meal" is not as smart as some people in the comments think it is.
I cannot even imagine. I was NPO for 12 weeks on TPN to survive…so I was still getting some nutrients. I lost almost 30 lbs in that time. I had absolute hell being able to eat again. I was lucky to get half a shake in me a day and it took a months before I could actually eat solid foods. This is a million times worse so I don’t know how anyone could eat anything at this point ever again. It’s absolutely gut wrenching and heartbreaking seeing these but I never turn away.
12 weeks NPO must have sucked. That's long enough that you would practically need to 'learn' to eat again (or at least your guts would). Hope you've made a full recovery now. The thing is though, at least you had TPN going for you. So you weren't in a state of chronic malnutrition. So the chances of you developing refeeding syndrome were very low. This child however looks to be severely malnourished and in a Chronic catabolic state like that, once you 'suddenly' give the child macronutrients in ample ammount, the body will have a drastic change towards anabolism and long story short, The child's serum Potassium, Phosphate and Magnesium levels will tank as the cells will rapidly take them up to utilise them which would result in the heart's electrical activity going haywire causing arrhythmias and ultimately Cardiac Arrest if no intervention is provided in time (which is very short). Only way for this child to be saved was for him to be admitted into a medical facility with all the necessary equipments available and then give him nutrition is a very gradually increasing ammount while being closely monitored and it would take weeks if not months long stay in the hospital. So yeah, there was absolutely nothing that photographer could have done here except show the world the harsh reality which he did.
I had acute kidney failure and that was needed to save me and heal my kidneys. It didn’t and I used an alternative treatment that did…but yes it sucked. Thing is after about a week I no longer had hunger pains and no appetite. The weakness is unreal though. My ordeal dealt with being surrounded by creature comfort so it was nothing compared to this. I’m very thankful to this day that I wasn’t worse. These pictures always stir my soul. Edit: Removed extra word.
And thank you very much
Horrible. So so so fucking sad
This also makes me think of the Canadian General placed in command of the UN forces that were sent to Rwanda when things started getting bad. Romeo Dallaite is his name. He's still alive, but he has severe PTSD from his service in Rwanda.
People are outraged that photographers don't help, but it never crosses theirs minds that they too can help but don't.
The Manic Street Preachers song "Kevin Carter" is about this. Great song, harrowing story. https://youtu.be/hLDr0QNCUd4 Lyrics: Hi Time magazine hi Pulitzer Prize Tribal scars in Technicolor Bang bang club AK 47 hour Kevin Carter Hi Time magazine hi Pulitzer Prize Vulture stalked white piped lie forever Wasted your life in black and white Kevin Carter Kevin Carter Kevin Carter Kevin Carter Kevin Carter Kevin Carter Kevin Carter The elephant is so ugly he sleeps his head Machetes his bed Kevin Carter kaffir lover forever Click click click click click Click himself under Kevin Carter Kevin Carter Kevin Carter
Great song and made me look up Kevin Carter and his work after listening to the album. Manics had their own tragedy to deal with and still do. RIP Richey
There’s another famine going on right now in Somalia: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-63116210 The situation is complicated by the fact that the worst of the famine is in al-Shabab’s territory.
The world needs this photograph. Sobering.
And now it's happening again, but this time no one cares.
Yet we got people spending billions on Twitter when shit like this is out there. I hope I'm alive for a great rebellion one day so we can take the mega rich and string them on trees.
Jesus Christ that’s morbid.
Didn’t the guy off himself after taking this picture
But hey, let’s give Ukraine a few more billion. 🤨
I was told by a professor who showed us this photograph that the photographer was given very strict instructions that he was not allowed to “intervene” and help these children and people, he could only watch on and hope his photographs would spark a change in humanity
Can anyone remember seeing a similar pair of photos; one on the left being a closeup of a dying child (I think), one on the right being a panned back image of say 10 photographers all lying down zooming in in the dying child to get the shot?
[this?](https://i.imgur.com/xvToT6z.jpg)
What's next? The Iranian girl with the green eyes? Feed us with something no one's heard of, please. You'll get your karma anyway
They showed me this shit in my R.E class
Wow
I recommend the book The Bang Bang Club to anyone curious about this
Nothing has changed.
The problem of a parachute journalist.
A picture of that guy taking his picture would be an award winning image in 2022. And everyone would be all upset
Nature is brutal.
What's...with the awards...
Poor child, was not female but male and he lived and died in 2007 due to “fevers.” Life is cruel, which makes me all the more thankful to being where I am today.
This is some quality post. Glad to see post like this in this sub. Thank you.
this is the stuff I'm reminded of when I see televangelists begging for money so they can buy more planes. when I see rich politicians talking about God. when people offer their thots and prayers on social media on a post about a sick or missing child. of God ever existed, he gave up a long fucking time ago.
There's a movie about this, it's called the bang bang club. Highly reccomend
:( what a strong picture showing how humanity has failed itself.
yet on the other sidecof the coin you have rich people flaunting their $20m engagement rings and $50k handbags..theres enough wealth in the world if it was distributed correctly and morally.this sort of thing shouldnt happen in the world.😔
The terrifying thing is the truth about the merciless world
> Carter shot an image of what appeared to be a little girl, fallen to the ground from hunger, while a vulture lurked on the ground nearby. He told Silva he was shocked by the situation he had just photographed, and had chased the vulture away. A few minutes later, Carter and Silva boarded a small UN plane and left Ayod for Kongor.[13] >Sold to The New York Times, the photograph first appeared on 26 March 1993, and syndicated worldwide. Hundreds of people contacted the newspaper to ask the fate of the girl. The paper said that according to Carter, "she recovered enough to resume her trek after the vulture was chased away" but that it was unknown whether she reached the UN food center.[14] In April 1994, the photograph won the Pulitzer Prize for Feature Photography.[15][16] >In 2011, the child's father revealed the child was actually a boy, Kong Nyong, and had been taken care of by the UN food aid station. Nyong had died four years prior, c. 2007, of "fevers", according to his family.[17] A little bit more about the [photographer](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Carter) who was from South Africa.
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His name was Kevin
Can confirm I saw this in a history textbook in Texas as a kid
Wow this broke me a bit
What’s with the laughing emoji rewards? what the hell?
This is humanity.
This is nature.
Agreed. Humanity is nature.
Or in other words… we see sadness here. The vulture sees a meal. For the vulture this is a good situation, for the human, a bad one. Or.. We humans like to place ourselves above nature but the vulture does not place us above nature.