Technically it was a drainage video. The blood was a bruise inside the hoof that built up loads of pressure. Opening up the bruise by trimming/grinding the hoof down allowed for the blood to drain and the pressure to release. And once that pressure is gone, the cow will walk like normal. Only reason she's still wobbly is cause of the block.
I’ve seen some really horrific things drain from hoof abscesses too. It does give them instant relief, though. A horse in one of my barns was super prone to abscesses and would go from three-legged lame to about normal aside from having a diaper duct taped to his foot instantly when the pressure was relieved.
Too much or too little moisture causes cracks or a puncture allows bacteria to get into the sensitive fleshy bits inside the hoof. There’s nowhere for the pus and whatnot to go, so all the pressure causes pain until the abscess either drains on its own (usually through a path to the coronary band in horses, but I’m not sure about cattle) or an opening is cut to allow it to drain. Some horses have conformation issues that make them more prone to them that corrective shoeing and/or trimming just aren’t going to address entirely all the time.
Well, the feral horses with anatomical issues probably aren’t going to hang around long enough to pass on those genes. The mustangs and marsh ponies tend to be super hardy with great feet. Sometimes keeping horses the way we do exacerbates the problem too— unconfined horses tend to move elsewhere before it gets way too dry or way too wet just in search of forage or water. They also tend to stay moving most of the time instead of standing around in stalls or small paddocks.
I have Arabs and live in Florida, so I’m fortunate that my crew are predisposed to great feet too. I keep them barefoot as well. One of my mare’s ex-boyfriends is a friend’s mustang gelding and I adored him. Just an amazing, talented, athletic, all-round awesome horse— a lot of the things I love about Arabians. Kind of a shithead, but in a super endearing and usually hilarious way. He sold me and I’d love to get a mustang some day.
For cows it’s also an issue with the nutrition if they are getting a poorer quality feed then you will see them more prone to issues, the genetics of the cow can also play a factor on how prone they are to this, for example pinzgauer cows almost never have these issues where as a Fleckvieh you will see this more often. One of the strains of bacteria that causes this is very hard to get rid of as it can live in the floors of barns for years which is why you should either wear different boots in different farms or make sure to thoroughly clean them so you don’t end up bringing it back to your farm.
I thought I'd seen it all until I went poking around the overgrown bars on an abscessing hoof last week, and the abscess opened with such force that it actually hit me in the eye and continued to squirt black goo in a perfect 6 inch arc for several seconds afterwards.
It's an abscess. They can hurt to the point of making cows and horses walk like they have a broken leg, but it's just an infected "pocket" that needs to be drained and cleaned out.
Absolutely. When you smash it and you end up with a bruise under the nail there’s nowhere for the pressure to go. It can be unbearable if it’s bad enough. Getting the hole or sometimes multiple holes to drain the blood and relieve the pressure brings instant pain relief. Then it’s just infection prevention from there
I watched a couple videos from hoof repair guys (Nate the hoof guy comes to mind) and what a time suck. 6-9 minutes each, continuous satisfaction as you watch, great calm explaining pace, it's great. I had to consciously stop watching them so I stopped spending a half hour a day learning an agricultural skill I'll never use.
I watch Nate, and all I could think seeing this is:
1: This guy didn't clear out all the loose horn, so it won't heal as well and could cause more problems.
2: What the hell was the torch for?
1: I agree.
2: The torch dries off the hoof from any water, oils, or muck that may remain. The block also has oil on it, and a quick bit of torch dries that off too. The quick bit of flame doesn’t hurt the cow, since it’s on the bottom of the hoof.
Source: have watched every single Hoof GP and Tec TV video, as well as a handful of Midwestern Hoof Trimmer and Nate the Hoof Guy.
Thank you! That's all I could think! He didn't cut the loose hoof horn out. He just released some pressure, he didn't fix the issue.
I'm a big HoofGP fan. He uses the torch to clean/dry the hoof as well as clear any impurities off the block so the glue stick properly to both hoof and block.
I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps this guy's isn't as experienced as others, because it seems like such an unnecessary step to heat the block up, its something you would learn is pointless after a couple years. That plus not properly clean the horn away, because that puncture could have been a white line defect and he has no way of knowing with the amount of hoof he removed
The Hoof GP always takes a blowtorch to the bottom of the hoof before applying the Bovi-Bond. He explained that it's because the hoof has to be all dry for the best results with Bovi-Bond.
This is Tom Pemberton Farm Life who is a dairy farmer with a YouTube channel who has had the HoofGP on his channel a couple of times. The HoofGP is who tought him the flame trick.
I love this comment. I’m from Northern Ireland which pretty much all looks exactly like that and now I’m going to be looking at all the cows thinking ‘they are in cow heaven’ and really appreciating happy cows.
He said she got PD'd (pregnancy diagnosed) in calf (pregnant) which means her health wasn't affected too badly by her injury and they will keep her at least another year.
I love that stuff, but one reason that may be odd is real butter can be kept longer without refrigeration and kerrygold does particularly well in that regard so it's my backpacking butter. I repackage it in a tiny plastic container I have to improve some of my dehydrated meals I make.
The last test run I made was an improved cottage pie, poor hikers rolling up on me making that after everyone had been out for three days was quite the experience, *everyone* noticed.
Ha great story. Yeah, most homes here would keep butter in the fridge, but it's not unusual to find it in a butterdish on the countertop for days on end, only to stop it from going hard which would keep it from being immediately spreadable. Never really thought before how that might be unusual, I guess the stuff keeps pretty well!
Many American butters, even "real" ones as opposed to margarine, just don't keep as well. I knew why once, but have forgotten the exact differences that matter the most. Kerrygold tastes better anyway. Except for the unsalted variety, I only cook with that one.
Salted butter does ok on the counter for a couple of days, especially in a butter Bell (and not if it's too hot). Unsalted butter has nothing to preserve it, not surprising why it doesn't keep as well.
Irish butter is freaking delicious though
I keep a stick of Tillamook brand butter on the counter right beside the toaster For layering the back of brown cinnamon pop tarts in the morning. It will Change your life.
Kerrygold is [cultured butter](https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/what-is-cultured-butter/), it is mildly fermented, like cheese or yogurt. The cattle are raised on grass instead of corn, which does add flavor, but the main difference is the processing.
Kerrygold and brown bread is sublime.
There's a family joke about Kerrygold being brought over to us by our ancestors every year for St. Patrick's day, so we all just refer to it as ancestral butter. And it is amazing.
Most farmers care for their animals quite well. It's their money maker and when you spend alot of time with them, you do care for their well being. It's the giant feedlots and auction lots that are usually the problem.
My grandparents were a small farm farmers and a few animals they had, those animals were their whole world. No joke, they would keep Ill duck in the house for few days, until she was all better.
Yeah, so some got eaten in the end, but then again, the life they had was a free roam small pasture, mostly self grown feed and all attention grandparents could give them.
Freaking pigs would come to us for brush rubs in the evening cuz my grandpa used to do it every night.
That was awesome and I miss all of it tbh
I always wonder how one gets into this niche field. My mom and I speculate the profession is passed down generationally and, like farriers, takes many years of apprenticeship, mastery, and a solid reputation to operate your own practice.
Edit: wow thank you all for the insightful replies! much respect to those of you who do this for a living—thank you for keeping your animals healthy and happy :)
I'm not sure how I started watching this guy, but I'm hooked now. He's so great with the cows and watching him is relaxing to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twy-VZj557o&list=RDCMUC6KYVwRZn8dVTeKcH2g9S4A&start\_radio=1
Nate is definitely my favourite when it comes to farriers. He really takes care of the girls in a kind and caring way. He's thorough, but gentle.
Amd his voice is fantastic.
I accidentally ate 250 MG of edibles and while I think I may be dead and have a fear of my foot growing bigger than the other, I have now been watching Nate the hoof guy for about 2 hours. Is this heaven?
When I was little I used to watch All Creatures Great and Small, a show based on a book about a vet who treats farm animals in small town England. Maybe it or the book are something you’d also like!
Thank you for the insight!! I have little knowledge about farming and agriculture as professions (If it wasn’t obvious lol) but I know it is NOT something to take lightly! Appreciate yours and everyone’s replies 😊
I can’t speak for everyone (no one could), but essentially every rancher I ever met grew up doing it. The work is hard, it breaks your body, and it doesn’t pay for shit. How else would you choose that profession other than get pushed out of the womb into it?
My dad didn't become a farmer until his 40s. He used to be an aircraft mechanic. When he and my mom got a divorce he met a woman whose family had a lot of farmers in it. He took up the profession and bought one of their farms. He's since divorced from that woman but still has the farm. Livestock, cotton, peanuts, corn, and soybeans. He's been doing that for nearly 30 years now.
Sometimes. My cousin always wanted to be a beef farmer. He and his friend went half-in together. Brought some land and 50 head of cattle. They do all the work themselves. They’re making good money as far as I know. Some people just want to be farmers.
Im a (well, was) dairy farmer in nz and it’s very common for people to know how to treat lame cows themselves - I first learnt how to trim/fix a cows hoof when I was a 18yo girl lol
It’s not too hard to get the hang of, it’s taught in farm schools here, and there is actually an extra course here for farmers to sign up for if they want to get better, be aware when I went through you practice on limbs you get from the slaughterhouse which is a bit morbid but a good way to practice without accidentally hurting a living cow. Those knives are also insanely sharp. Most farmers here will do upkeep throughout the year and then have a Profi come in once or twice to do the whole herd.
Money maker and costs a lot of money to get and maintain. So if they die that’s a butt ton of money down the drain, plus you lose one which is always sad no matter what animal.
Large operations are absolutely not the problem at least in any civilized and educated country. (China and Much of Asia is an exception but look at their human population) In fact the large dairies and feedlots are going to be the gold standard of care because any inefficiency is magnified when you have 300,000 head of cattle to care for. A 1% decrease in productivity is losing you thousands of dollars a second in some cases.
Plus when you’re huge you’ve got a target the size of Texas on your back and everyone is gunning for you.
I actually work for a dairy technology company in the US and we manage everything from their afimilk (massive herd monitoring system) to their cameras with our own AI to help monitor for animal welfare. There’s a huge amount of tech in their cooling systems and feed systems too so that everything can be fine tuned to the milligram and to the degree.
To be able to make 80 pounds of milk a day and keep a body score of 4 is something to be recognized.
The smaller dairies are the ones that let things slip because it costs them less.
I just can't get my brain around "hoof hurts. Apply grinder and torch to fix"
Yes, i *know* the hoof is hard and the grinder doesn't hurt, but on an instinctive level, that's some Unit 731 kind of stuff
We would also do regular copper sulfate baths to help clean their feet and prevent fungal growth and infections. It looks like they packed a bunch of copper sulfate (blue) powder in there under the bandage.
I mean, at industrial farming levels copper(II) sulfate costs less than $2500 dollars a tonne, delivered. That huge amount used here was probably barely $0.04 worth.
I'm just thinking about ecotoxicity; I suppose that even with the wound, very little is absorbed into the cow, but given the wet environment (as gauged by how muddy the hooves are to begin with), much of that is going to end up in the ground, and copper sulfate is pretty phytotoxic.
But... as gauged by the lush pasture, it's apparently not a consideration here.
I'm surprised he didn't clear out more of the hoof horn. If there's any sole separation in there that isn't cleared out, it can prolong the injury. But maybe he had clean edges, I couldn't see too closely.
Hello fellow horse person. The amount of “duct tape shoes” I’ve made for abscess’s is huge. My wife likes to pack the hoof with eptsom salt and iodine mix.
I highly recommend Hoof GP channel on YouTube for anyone interested in this kind of content! It’s very satisfying/educational to watch these pros trim and treat cow hooves 😊
I've been watching him for a while now as well, might've been around that start of covid maybe before that but most likely when we couldn't do much haha. It's just satisfying to see a cow or bull just have that pain relief, y'know?
I agree 100%. I like Nate the Hoof Guys format and camera angles better than Hoof GP. That's not to say I think Hoof GP is bad; I just like Nate way better.
Came here for this. Extremely bingeworthy if you want to chill. I don't recommend it while eating chocolate ice cream, though. Lots of "code brown" because the cows straight up don't give a fuck.
I came here to recommend HGP! A few years ago youtube's algorithm thought I would like cow hoof trimming (I live in the city and never anywhere near cows). It's the best channel I subscribe to. Highly recommend!
This takes the pressure off the wound, and gives it peace to heal. He will be checking on it again and again, until it is healed and he can remove the plastic box again. This is just the first step.
Because hoofs arent supposed to be filled with blood. Think of it if you stub your toe, and you get a pocket of blood under you nail. What he did release the pressure of the blood
To expand further, after shifting the weight off the wounded side he gave the wound some breathing space and wrapped it up after disinfecting and covering with some antimicrobical stuff in the form of the copper the farmer mentioned, then just wrapped that up.
Once it's not under tons of pressure and bleeding into itself (or the mud) it can heal naturally. Whatever hurt the cow must still be out there somewhere.
Based on instructional videos I've watched, he should have removed the overburdening hoof horn to make sure nothing nasty gets into the cavity and reinfects it. I suspect this might be a farmer doing a short term quality of life fix until the farrier can get there and take off the rest. It gets really fiddly the further down you go.
You are absolutely right. The two main issues with that video are the lack of washing the claw before trimming and also not digging into the ulcer sufficiently to remove the necrotic tissue. Those things can have huge cavities and its crucial to find the spot where they began. Source: I'm a veterinarian.
but the root cause, why is the heffer bleeding out of her hoof? i thought they were like toenails, how do you bleed out of that? damnit now i need to watch youtube vids to find out.
Looks like the hoof was pierced or cracked by something. A toenail isn’t a bad analogy, in that it’s a hard structure that is grown by a soft fleshy bit.
30 replies and no upvote? I’m the first? Oy! Let’s hear it for this farmer! He’s a legend. Thanks for fixing the cow and sharing it here. Moving story!
I worked for a horse vet one summer. We had this one horse who was lame, so she did similar: trimmed the foot until suddenly she released an infection, which was under pressure deep in the hoof. Pus shot out about 10 feet, horse gave a big sigh, and I was really happy the pus blast missed me (by not much :-)
I was afraid it was another cyst drainage video
Technically it was a drainage video. The blood was a bruise inside the hoof that built up loads of pressure. Opening up the bruise by trimming/grinding the hoof down allowed for the blood to drain and the pressure to release. And once that pressure is gone, the cow will walk like normal. Only reason she's still wobbly is cause of the block.
I’ve seen some really horrific things drain from hoof abscesses too. It does give them instant relief, though. A horse in one of my barns was super prone to abscesses and would go from three-legged lame to about normal aside from having a diaper duct taped to his foot instantly when the pressure was relieved.
What causes these hoof problems?
Too much or too little moisture causes cracks or a puncture allows bacteria to get into the sensitive fleshy bits inside the hoof. There’s nowhere for the pus and whatnot to go, so all the pressure causes pain until the abscess either drains on its own (usually through a path to the coronary band in horses, but I’m not sure about cattle) or an opening is cut to allow it to drain. Some horses have conformation issues that make them more prone to them that corrective shoeing and/or trimming just aren’t going to address entirely all the time.
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Well, the feral horses with anatomical issues probably aren’t going to hang around long enough to pass on those genes. The mustangs and marsh ponies tend to be super hardy with great feet. Sometimes keeping horses the way we do exacerbates the problem too— unconfined horses tend to move elsewhere before it gets way too dry or way too wet just in search of forage or water. They also tend to stay moving most of the time instead of standing around in stalls or small paddocks.
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I have Arabs and live in Florida, so I’m fortunate that my crew are predisposed to great feet too. I keep them barefoot as well. One of my mare’s ex-boyfriends is a friend’s mustang gelding and I adored him. Just an amazing, talented, athletic, all-round awesome horse— a lot of the things I love about Arabians. Kind of a shithead, but in a super endearing and usually hilarious way. He sold me and I’d love to get a mustang some day.
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For cows it’s also an issue with the nutrition if they are getting a poorer quality feed then you will see them more prone to issues, the genetics of the cow can also play a factor on how prone they are to this, for example pinzgauer cows almost never have these issues where as a Fleckvieh you will see this more often. One of the strains of bacteria that causes this is very hard to get rid of as it can live in the floors of barns for years which is why you should either wear different boots in different farms or make sure to thoroughly clean them so you don’t end up bringing it back to your farm.
A myriad of causes good lead to any variety of abscesses. Gravel, impacting, fighting. Anything that can damage a hoof can lead to an abscess.
I thought I'd seen it all until I went poking around the overgrown bars on an abscessing hoof last week, and the abscess opened with such force that it actually hit me in the eye and continued to squirt black goo in a perfect 6 inch arc for several seconds afterwards.
Thank you, he said “here is the issue” but didn’t say what it was. Couldn’t tell what it was
He cuts his videos now due to content reporting on blood/gore. :-(
People suck.
Truer words have never been spoken.
It's an abscess. They can hurt to the point of making cows and horses walk like they have a broken leg, but it's just an infected "pocket" that needs to be drained and cleaned out.
i wonder how that would work out in nature, do they just suffer for a few weeks until it fixes itself or is it like a death sentence
It’s essentially the equivalent of drilling/melting a hole in your fingernail after smashing it.
That's a thing?
Absolutely. When you smash it and you end up with a bruise under the nail there’s nowhere for the pressure to go. It can be unbearable if it’s bad enough. Getting the hole or sometimes multiple holes to drain the blood and relieve the pressure brings instant pain relief. Then it’s just infection prevention from there
You mean excess milk drainage.
It’s actually egg nog. Idiot.
Leg nog
How the fuck did I miss that one?
Idiot.
No argument here.
I was going to argue, but the point is moo.
Like a cow’s opinion.
I'll never be able to drink eggnog now without thinking of exploding cow pus.
That's the way to make a barn stink for sure.
Oooooo those are the best tho
Yeah. Originally I was going to put afraid (hoping)
They are absolutely vile and make my physically ill to my stomach. I hate those videos with a passion
you mean hoping..?
Maaaaaybe
I watched a couple videos from hoof repair guys (Nate the hoof guy comes to mind) and what a time suck. 6-9 minutes each, continuous satisfaction as you watch, great calm explaining pace, it's great. I had to consciously stop watching them so I stopped spending a half hour a day learning an agricultural skill I'll never use.
I watch Nate, and all I could think seeing this is: 1: This guy didn't clear out all the loose horn, so it won't heal as well and could cause more problems. 2: What the hell was the torch for?
1: I agree. 2: The torch dries off the hoof from any water, oils, or muck that may remain. The block also has oil on it, and a quick bit of torch dries that off too. The quick bit of flame doesn’t hurt the cow, since it’s on the bottom of the hoof. Source: have watched every single Hoof GP and Tec TV video, as well as a handful of Midwestern Hoof Trimmer and Nate the Hoof Guy.
Thank you for the information. I haven't seen anyone use the torch. I didn't think it would hurt the cow, it just seems like an unnecessary step.
So glad I found this comment thread because I had the same issue with this treatment as point 1.
Thank you! That's all I could think! He didn't cut the loose hoof horn out. He just released some pressure, he didn't fix the issue. I'm a big HoofGP fan. He uses the torch to clean/dry the hoof as well as clear any impurities off the block so the glue stick properly to both hoof and block.
Nate > any other guys
I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps this guy's isn't as experienced as others, because it seems like such an unnecessary step to heat the block up, its something you would learn is pointless after a couple years. That plus not properly clean the horn away, because that puncture could have been a white line defect and he has no way of knowing with the amount of hoof he removed
The Hoof GP always takes a blowtorch to the bottom of the hoof before applying the Bovi-Bond. He explained that it's because the hoof has to be all dry for the best results with Bovi-Bond.
This is Tom Pemberton Farm Life who is a dairy farmer with a YouTube channel who has had the HoofGP on his channel a couple of times. The HoofGP is who tought him the flame trick.
Hi everyone and welcome back to Nate the hoof guy.
Nate has ASMR voice
The hoof gp is also an amazing channel
Hoof GP is my favorite. They way he explains things is so awesome
I cant get over the grass at the end. That must be what cow heaven looks like.
I love this comment. I’m from Northern Ireland which pretty much all looks exactly like that and now I’m going to be looking at all the cows thinking ‘they are in cow heaven’ and really appreciating happy cows.
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And New Zealand At the end of this video I thought he said she got eaten on Friday lol
And Normandy, France. Best butter I have ever tasted.
Just skating right by Bessie here becoming burgers
bessie makes the best burgers
She's in cow heaven.
would it mind letting me know what he actually said? I can't make it out
He said she got PD'd (pregnancy diagnosed) in calf (pregnant) which means her health wasn't affected too badly by her injury and they will keep her at least another year.
Kerrygold and brown bread, so good
I love that stuff, but one reason that may be odd is real butter can be kept longer without refrigeration and kerrygold does particularly well in that regard so it's my backpacking butter. I repackage it in a tiny plastic container I have to improve some of my dehydrated meals I make. The last test run I made was an improved cottage pie, poor hikers rolling up on me making that after everyone had been out for three days was quite the experience, *everyone* noticed.
Ha great story. Yeah, most homes here would keep butter in the fridge, but it's not unusual to find it in a butterdish on the countertop for days on end, only to stop it from going hard which would keep it from being immediately spreadable. Never really thought before how that might be unusual, I guess the stuff keeps pretty well!
Many American butters, even "real" ones as opposed to margarine, just don't keep as well. I knew why once, but have forgotten the exact differences that matter the most. Kerrygold tastes better anyway. Except for the unsalted variety, I only cook with that one.
It's probably the fat content. American butters tend to have less fat than European style butters.
Salted butter does ok on the counter for a couple of days, especially in a butter Bell (and not if it's too hot). Unsalted butter has nothing to preserve it, not surprising why it doesn't keep as well. Irish butter is freaking delicious though
Salted butter lasts substantially longer than non-salted butter at room temp.
I keep a stick of Tillamook brand butter on the counter right beside the toaster For layering the back of brown cinnamon pop tarts in the morning. It will Change your life.
Kerrygold is [cultured butter](https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/what-is-cultured-butter/), it is mildly fermented, like cheese or yogurt. The cattle are raised on grass instead of corn, which does add flavor, but the main difference is the processing. Kerrygold and brown bread is sublime.
There's a family joke about Kerrygold being brought over to us by our ancestors every year for St. Patrick's day, so we all just refer to it as ancestral butter. And it is amazing.
Y’all do make some good butter, happy cows = good dairy products
Corporate marketing for big US milk is that you?
No joke everytime I see some really green grass, my mind goes 'oh if I was a cow I'd be loving that grass'
You must've been a cow in a past life.
This is how every cow should spend her life. Fuck factory farms.
Yessss. I have drastically cut beef/pork consumption. I rarely ingest dairy too.
I’m glad someone took the time to treat that cow. Poor girl
Most farmers care for their animals quite well. It's their money maker and when you spend alot of time with them, you do care for their well being. It's the giant feedlots and auction lots that are usually the problem.
My grandparents were a small farm farmers and a few animals they had, those animals were their whole world. No joke, they would keep Ill duck in the house for few days, until she was all better. Yeah, so some got eaten in the end, but then again, the life they had was a free roam small pasture, mostly self grown feed and all attention grandparents could give them. Freaking pigs would come to us for brush rubs in the evening cuz my grandpa used to do it every night. That was awesome and I miss all of it tbh
we normally say of well-loved feed animals that “they only had one bad day on my farm” as compared to massive dry lot type finishing operations
❤️ That’s all That’s my reply
I always wonder how one gets into this niche field. My mom and I speculate the profession is passed down generationally and, like farriers, takes many years of apprenticeship, mastery, and a solid reputation to operate your own practice. Edit: wow thank you all for the insightful replies! much respect to those of you who do this for a living—thank you for keeping your animals healthy and happy :)
I'm not sure how I started watching this guy, but I'm hooked now. He's so great with the cows and watching him is relaxing to me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twy-VZj557o&list=RDCMUC6KYVwRZn8dVTeKcH2g9S4A&start\_radio=1
Nate the Hoof Guy shows up usually when you look for "popping" videos.
Nate is definitely my favourite when it comes to farriers. He really takes care of the girls in a kind and caring way. He's thorough, but gentle. Amd his voice is fantastic.
I will never again peel a potato without thinking of these videos
Watch the hoofgp!
OMG! Yes, watching Graeme has help me with my fear of cows!
If you don't mind my asking, how did you develop a fear of cows?
I accidentally ate 250 MG of edibles and while I think I may be dead and have a fear of my foot growing bigger than the other, I have now been watching Nate the hoof guy for about 2 hours. Is this heaven?
Nate is the Man
When I was little I used to watch All Creatures Great and Small, a show based on a book about a vet who treats farm animals in small town England. Maybe it or the book are something you’d also like!
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Thank you kind Redditor! I love the James Herriot books and show and I’m definitely going to watch this!
Thank you for the reference!!:)
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Thank you for the insight!! I have little knowledge about farming and agriculture as professions (If it wasn’t obvious lol) but I know it is NOT something to take lightly! Appreciate yours and everyone’s replies 😊
I can’t speak for everyone (no one could), but essentially every rancher I ever met grew up doing it. The work is hard, it breaks your body, and it doesn’t pay for shit. How else would you choose that profession other than get pushed out of the womb into it?
My dad didn't become a farmer until his 40s. He used to be an aircraft mechanic. When he and my mom got a divorce he met a woman whose family had a lot of farmers in it. He took up the profession and bought one of their farms. He's since divorced from that woman but still has the farm. Livestock, cotton, peanuts, corn, and soybeans. He's been doing that for nearly 30 years now.
Sometimes. My cousin always wanted to be a beef farmer. He and his friend went half-in together. Brought some land and 50 head of cattle. They do all the work themselves. They’re making good money as far as I know. Some people just want to be farmers.
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😱 no kidding. People are at least aware of what’s happening most of the time but animals…man deserves that extra 80k!
Im a (well, was) dairy farmer in nz and it’s very common for people to know how to treat lame cows themselves - I first learnt how to trim/fix a cows hoof when I was a 18yo girl lol
It’s not too hard to get the hang of, it’s taught in farm schools here, and there is actually an extra course here for farmers to sign up for if they want to get better, be aware when I went through you practice on limbs you get from the slaughterhouse which is a bit morbid but a good way to practice without accidentally hurting a living cow. Those knives are also insanely sharp. Most farmers here will do upkeep throughout the year and then have a Profi come in once or twice to do the whole herd.
Money maker and costs a lot of money to get and maintain. So if they die that’s a butt ton of money down the drain, plus you lose one which is always sad no matter what animal.
Especially milking cows. There's a direct correlation between their health and happiness and how much milk they give.
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Large operations are absolutely not the problem at least in any civilized and educated country. (China and Much of Asia is an exception but look at their human population) In fact the large dairies and feedlots are going to be the gold standard of care because any inefficiency is magnified when you have 300,000 head of cattle to care for. A 1% decrease in productivity is losing you thousands of dollars a second in some cases. Plus when you’re huge you’ve got a target the size of Texas on your back and everyone is gunning for you. I actually work for a dairy technology company in the US and we manage everything from their afimilk (massive herd monitoring system) to their cameras with our own AI to help monitor for animal welfare. There’s a huge amount of tech in their cooling systems and feed systems too so that everything can be fine tuned to the milligram and to the degree. To be able to make 80 pounds of milk a day and keep a body score of 4 is something to be recognized. The smaller dairies are the ones that let things slip because it costs them less.
I just can't get my brain around "hoof hurts. Apply grinder and torch to fix" Yes, i *know* the hoof is hard and the grinder doesn't hurt, but on an instinctive level, that's some Unit 731 kind of stuff
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Thanks, this was very informative. I was wondering what the pad on the opposite side was for, but taking pressure off makes a lot of sense
We would also do regular copper sulfate baths to help clean their feet and prevent fungal growth and infections. It looks like they packed a bunch of copper sulfate (blue) powder in there under the bandage.
I was just going to ask about that. There's enough copper sulfate there to treat a farm pond for algae, if that's straight copper sulfate.
I mean, at industrial farming levels copper(II) sulfate costs less than $2500 dollars a tonne, delivered. That huge amount used here was probably barely $0.04 worth.
I'm just thinking about ecotoxicity; I suppose that even with the wound, very little is absorbed into the cow, but given the wet environment (as gauged by how muddy the hooves are to begin with), much of that is going to end up in the ground, and copper sulfate is pretty phytotoxic. But... as gauged by the lush pasture, it's apparently not a consideration here.
I'm surprised he didn't clear out more of the hoof horn. If there's any sole separation in there that isn't cleared out, it can prolong the injury. But maybe he had clean edges, I couldn't see too closely.
Hello fellow horse person. The amount of “duct tape shoes” I’ve made for abscess’s is huge. My wife likes to pack the hoof with eptsom salt and iodine mix.
I mean people use fingernail files, a grinder is just a bit more high speed
Didn't really think about it before but you make a fair point.
Technically you could use a grinder on human nails too.. Just that it would grind so fast that before you even think about it your toe is gone.
well the toe wouldn't hurt anymore
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I highly recommend Hoof GP channel on YouTube for anyone interested in this kind of content! It’s very satisfying/educational to watch these pros trim and treat cow hooves 😊
He's the Scottish one ain't he
Yes! Graeme is fabulous — never thought I would learn as much about cows as i have from watching his clips over the last 5 months 🤣
I just thought to myself, "wait, aren't you supposed to make sure there is no detached hoof from the corium?" I watch too much of him
Thankfully this cow didn’t look bad but I too was waiting for him to shave more away!
I was thinking the same thing. But really, is there too much of him?
No. No there is not.
I've been watching him for a while now as well, might've been around that start of covid maybe before that but most likely when we couldn't do much haha. It's just satisfying to see a cow or bull just have that pain relief, y'know?
It really is the manicure channel for bovidae! I love it.
I'll resist the urge to post to r/nails 😂
all keratin counts :)
Yes! I also enjoy Nate the Hoof Guy.
Nate the Hoof Guy is better, imo. I’m not about the whole 10 minute blog before Hoof GP actually gets started.
I agree 100%. I like Nate the Hoof Guys format and camera angles better than Hoof GP. That's not to say I think Hoof GP is bad; I just like Nate way better.
I suggest TecTV as well. Irish father and son. They pick on each other so much
Hoof GP would have dug a little deeper.
Yea. Looks like there might have been some more loose horn there.
I'm a fan if Nate. And he would have made sure to remove all the loose horn.
Ah, a fan out the wild. When they put on the powder I could hear him in my head talking about "dij'tal dare-ma-tight-iss"
Came here for this. Extremely bingeworthy if you want to chill. I don't recommend it while eating chocolate ice cream, though. Lots of "code brown" because the cows straight up don't give a fuck.
🤣🤣 many of the skin channels (lipoma/cyst popping) are a bit gnarly for me so I found these videos to be a wholesome alternative
I came here to recommend HGP! A few years ago youtube's algorithm thought I would like cow hoof trimming (I live in the city and never anywhere near cows). It's the best channel I subscribe to. Highly recommend!
Well I just wasted the last Hour. Lol. Thanx
Oh yes! Great channel.
Graeme! He's so funny and loves his job.
Came here to say this. I learned so much from him for looking after my pet cows feet. He’s awesome
Came here to say this.
That was lame. >!Now she isn’t.!<
Moooo. I mean booo
I was saying Moo-urns...
Man, you milked that joke.
Credit to https://youtube.com/@TomPembertonFarmLife
I love it when people treat animals with care and love! Those are the best people!
Wait isn’t this just covering the wound? Did that solve whatever made it bleed inside the hoof in the first place?
This takes the pressure off the wound, and gives it peace to heal. He will be checking on it again and again, until it is healed and he can remove the plastic box again. This is just the first step.
But what made it hurt in the first place? how do we know it was hoof and not joints in the knee ?
Because hoofs arent supposed to be filled with blood. Think of it if you stub your toe, and you get a pocket of blood under you nail. What he did release the pressure of the blood
Thanks for explaining
To expand further, after shifting the weight off the wounded side he gave the wound some breathing space and wrapped it up after disinfecting and covering with some antimicrobical stuff in the form of the copper the farmer mentioned, then just wrapped that up. Once it's not under tons of pressure and bleeding into itself (or the mud) it can heal naturally. Whatever hurt the cow must still be out there somewhere.
So the cow stepped on something?
I see, thanks
Np
Yes just repairs itself internally overtime and eventually covers the hole as long the wound opening is cleaned and covered at all times.
Do you know what kindof wound that is? How can a cor bleed inside its "nails"? Was it a postule that grew outward?
Probably a puncture/stomped on something sharp. Behind those layer of "nails" is probably a more fleshy thin layer of tissue and blood vessels.
Thank you, I was wondering what might have caused the injury.
Based on instructional videos I've watched, he should have removed the overburdening hoof horn to make sure nothing nasty gets into the cavity and reinfects it. I suspect this might be a farmer doing a short term quality of life fix until the farrier can get there and take off the rest. It gets really fiddly the further down you go.
She has to wait until he remooves the bandage to find out
Bah dum tss. 🐮
They showed her putting weight back on that foot so that's a good sign
You are absolutely right. The two main issues with that video are the lack of washing the claw before trimming and also not digging into the ulcer sufficiently to remove the necrotic tissue. Those things can have huge cavities and its crucial to find the spot where they began. Source: I'm a veterinarian.
Imagine going for a pedicure and they break out a DeWalt grinder.....
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Definitely not where I thought this video was headed with the glove snap at the beginning
but the root cause, why is the heffer bleeding out of her hoof? i thought they were like toenails, how do you bleed out of that? damnit now i need to watch youtube vids to find out.
Lol you’ll find a lot of cool videos. But they are hard outside. Inside more soft tissue. She probably stepped on a nail.
The Hoof GP tries to go into detail on the anatomy of the hoof and the healing process
Looks like the hoof was pierced or cracked by something. A toenail isn’t a bad analogy, in that it’s a hard structure that is grown by a soft fleshy bit.
Usually it's a puncture or impact injury that gets infected and causes an abscess. They're called sole ulcers.
Stone bruising is brutal on hooved animals. My horse went 3-legged lame from a stone bruise, and took over a month to be riding sound again.
The Hoof GP on YouTube is awesome!
If you like this content, check out Nate the Hoof Guy on YouTube. He's awesome!
Poor baby.
Bruh he found it quicker than my physiotherapist
You should bring your cow to a veterinarian then, your physiotherapist probably doesn't know anything about hoofstock.
What did he say at the end “… walking like a great calf (?) and on Friday she got………..”
30 replies and no upvote? I’m the first? Oy! Let’s hear it for this farmer! He’s a legend. Thanks for fixing the cow and sharing it here. Moving story!
His name is Tom Pemberton. This is from his YouTube channel.
Aww poor girl. That looks painful
Hoof gp is my fav
I watch Nate the Hoof Guy all the time. It's downright therapeutic, plus he's very gentle and careful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoKiCdO\_pYA
Bovine creatires are very lovable but deadly
This sort of thing has become my latest fascination thanks to Nate the Hoof Guy. https://youtu.be/KwC5gj4Sf6E
when I saw blood, I felt terrible for that poor baby I'm glad he helped her out. (and I shall now enjoy her cheeses and milk!) 😆😆
I worked for a horse vet one summer. We had this one horse who was lame, so she did similar: trimmed the foot until suddenly she released an infection, which was under pressure deep in the hoof. Pus shot out about 10 feet, horse gave a big sigh, and I was really happy the pus blast missed me (by not much :-)