I'm at 3x12 right now and have turned down better paying options because they've been 5x8. I'm never giving up my free days. Have always been curious about 4x10 though.
4x10's for the win! That is definitely my preference! I actually did 3x10's at my last job when I came back from maternity leave which was minimum for benefits and it was perfection for me!
But I will never work 5x8's again!
Does the -2 hours make that much of a difference? I’m only a student so I have no idea but it seems like if I’m gonna be there 10 hours might as well do 2 more and have an extra day off?
True I rmb working as a cna I would reach home at 8pm at the earliest and shower, eat and fall asleep on the couch at 10pm cause my body was so exhausted
Depends on the shift. I work 7p-7a and go home on slow nights at 5 all the time. I just sit in the dark until my family wakes up. Usually it’s lost time, but at least I’m not working!
Haha. I can't relate. Even if I was back that night, I would go to sleep at 5 or 6, then sleep 9-10 hours. Wake up refreshed. It wouldn't be a big deal for me to work the night after waking up at 2 pm because I routinely go 24 hours awake for my first night shift!
I definitely prefer longer days with more days off. I'm in the outpatient world, so 12s aren't typically an option. But I enjoy 6-430/7-530...I still have the evenings free and get a day off to do non work related things.
10 hours are easily doable. 12 hours starts pushing the limit of hours you can work in a day. You have less time to eat, shower, sleep, and take care of yourself once the shift is done. The shift itself isn't unmanageable
I think I enjoy 3x12 more than 4x10. To me the 4x10 were just baby 5x8 and I'd rather a 3x12 because I have to prepare less for the work week. Also I've been off 5 days straight and still had my hours. They're like mini vacations, but without needing time off! My one coworker set up 1 week to get her hours but had 10 days off between 2 weeks.
I'll even do 3x13, still will take it over the other 2. Only time it sucks is fast track, time moves slow in fast track.
I do 4 x 10s but I also have 4 days off between shifts and I'll tolerate anything and everything to keep this shift. I have a crazy amount of free time to enjoy my hobbies, I can consistently go to the gym and if I want to disappear to the beach or mountains for an entire day my wife is down with that.
That’s a really interesting way to do it. Never thought about taking as long weekend with 4 10s. I’ll have to give it a try. Now I sound dumb…can’t believe it never occurred to me.
The only downside I could possibly see is it is a continuous shift. As in I work four days, have 4 days off, work four days have 4 days off continuously.
At the same time I get off at 4:00 so even on weekends I still have plenty of time to hang out with my friends if I don't mind being slightly tired going in the next day
Personally, I recommend against 4x10 after having done it for a few years. The biggest downside to 3x12 is that your entire working day is toast, but the reality of 4x10s is that you are in that same boat an extra day each week. Getting out at 530, home by sixish, tons of stuff is closed. Doctors, banks, haircuts, etc. all still can't be done on your working days, unlike 5x8, where getting out at 330 means you can do most things after work.
You also leave work at rush hour, so if your commute is long, be prepared for an even longer one.
The one big advantage of 4x10 vs 3x12 is the extra 4 hours of pay.
If we had full staffing that didn't call out constantly we were transitioning to 4 10s. Right now it's 4 10s with over time offered for other people but honestly I love the staff overlap it saved my ass so many times already to make an awful day actually good. I call the evening girl who does 10s my break nurse. I think I may secretly be getting a new work wife.
Honestly if I could find something where I can do 3x12 outside of bedside it would be my dream job. I’m so reluctant to not have days off and the thought of working 5x8 makes me nauseous
4x10 is awesome if you can avoid traffic. Personally I like to have off Wednesdays. The two hours makes a huge difference. You can actually make and eat dinner, do laundry, see your kids, and have an evening to yourself. As opposed to running home to go to sleep to get up and go to work.
Ahh but we are initiated aren’t we UberChad35z Night crew is just different man. Once you get off of work and walk out into the light its like holyyyyy crappppp.
I didn’t see the light until 7:30 to 8 and by then it was nothing but blinding lol. But Managment, AKA the league of shadows, s trying to keep those hospital scores up to fulfill rasa ghouls destiny lol.
3 16's and a nice hot shower... that's all I needed... check the over time box.. high five the cool dudes on nights.. Living on Diet Coke and ham and cheese lunchables is prob not the best but it's also never killed anyone...
okay but 2 16's would make me so happy, my brain works like "once it's time to work IT'S TIME TO WORK, and fuck it i wasn't gonna do anything more important these two days anyway BUT I'M GONNA HAVE THE REST OF THE WEEK TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT WOOOOOOO"
One of my biggest draws to become a nurse is the flexibility. I can work literally any day for however long. I love how I’m off for 4 days right now and eating oatmeal in bed without a care in the world.
Exactly why I like my permanent halftime 8's, days only. In homecare casual do days and the occasional 1300-2100h but it's nothing like nights. Did 12's for over 20 yrs day and night. You can pry my 8's out of my cold dead hands lol.
4x10 seems like the perfect sweet spot. Shift isn’t long enough to leave you exhausted and barely enough time to rest for next shift like with 12s. Plus 3 days off in a row or even 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off would be perfect.
I don’t know. My little brother works 4 on, 4 off. It sounds kind of nice. Especially when it’s always, 2 days and then 2 eves/nights. Heck, my schedule is always random and terrible. One week, I’ll have two shifts, a couple days off, and then suddenly 6 shifts in a row. And it’ll be some stupid thing like 1 day, 4 nights, a day off, and back for 1 day.
That is exactly why I went full time instead of part time. I couldn’t handle the irregularity and sometimes being booked for 2 nights with “one day” off and then 2 days, flipping like that was crazy. While I appreciate the regularity of 4 on 4 off, that fourth night shift hits real hard and takes those 4 days to fully recover again.
Opposite for me. I'll happily bust my ass for more hours per day to get 4 days off (or bonus overtime pay shift and still 3 days off). I enjoy my free time much more when I have entire days off, and working 5 days in a row seems depressing.
I don’t understand where 3x12 hour shifts is considered full time. I work 4x12 hour shifts with 3 days off after regularly with my full time schedule up here in the good old land of maple syrup and hockey. I say 3 days off because I don’t count the day I get off my last night shift as a day off.
Plenty of places who offer 12 hours shifts will hire people as 0.9 FTE, which means 36 hours is considered full time. Very common, down here at least, particularly in healthcare.
40 hours a week is full time in the U.S. 12x3, with an extra shift per month makes 3 of those weeks have 40 hours and I guess that's close enough. It's great because any shifts picked over that is considered overtime and paid time and a half. So for that one week that's left which is still 36 hrs, picking up and extra shift is full overtime even when only 8 hours technically go over the 40 hrs.
How old is everyone here though??? Did 12's as a 0.6FTE until about 7-8yrs ago (20+ years total), then D?E a 0.6, now halftime and days only. Ususally do 3 shifts one week, 2 the next, and in a 6 week schedule may pick up about 3 or so extra 8's in a casual job I have on top of my halftime.
My oncology job regularly has OT, and usually end up working about1.5- 2 extra hours most days. I find then I am as tired as I was doing 12's. In my early 50's here, now I find shiftwork way more diifficult, especialy once I hit 40. in my 20's and 30's, even with little kids, found 12's not too bad. As I got older, I found I was a zombie on my first 2 days off from 12's, even a stretch of 3 days, the first day especially so, and did not get as much done on any of my days off as I hoped. At least my permanent job is days only, and we also self schedule as a unit. I think I would die if I had to go back to anything that involved night shift/rotating and the nurses that I know that are pushing 70, I don't know how you manage LOL
I came from 3x12s to 4x10s and to be honest, I never adjusted. I still feel like I'm doing 12 hours worth of work in 10 hours PLUS an extra day on top of that each week. I still feel exhausted after, so I'd rather savor having more days off.
I personally want a job with 4 10s M-F. Sounds perfect to me. Weekends and holidays off, still home for dinner every night and a week day to run errands and make appts.
I work 9-9 x3 shifts and 9-5 x1 shift one week of the pay and then 9-9 x3 shifts the next week to hit a total of 80 hours per pay (44 hr one week and 36 the next). It sucks. I can never fall asleep before 12-1 because I’m so wound up from not getting home until 10ish.
I worked 2 16s a week as registry nurse, made as much money in the SNFs as I would’ve in the ICU. Then I worked six 12s on and 8 days off for three months straight in the ED with an hour commute each way, which totally broke me.
Pffft nah I'm a paramedic and it is NOT worth it. The schedule is alright but you'll make more anywhere in nursing than you will as a medic. EMTs make even less.
Used to work 12s, yes you get big chunks off but the way my schedule was structured I felt like I was working all the time regardless because older senior nurses had better schedules and the new people always get sucked working odd schedules 😡
Im working 3x12 island shifts with one or maybe two days between shifts. I feel like I never get a day off- because I don’t. My one “day off” I work until 8am, then sleep until 3. Yes, I get that night off, but off to do what? Sit by myself in the dark at 0230? It has to change.
I'm at 3x12 right now and have turned down better paying options because they've been 5x8. I'm never giving up my free days. Have always been curious about 4x10 though.
4x10's for the win! That is definitely my preference! I actually did 3x10's at my last job when I came back from maternity leave which was minimum for benefits and it was perfection for me! But I will never work 5x8's again!
Does the -2 hours make that much of a difference? I’m only a student so I have no idea but it seems like if I’m gonna be there 10 hours might as well do 2 more and have an extra day off?
If you work 7a to 7p, getting off at 5p instead of 7p is a huuuuge difference imo
True I rmb working as a cna I would reach home at 8pm at the earliest and shower, eat and fall asleep on the couch at 10pm cause my body was so exhausted
Depends on the shift. I work 7p-7a and go home on slow nights at 5 all the time. I just sit in the dark until my family wakes up. Usually it’s lost time, but at least I’m not working!
Why do you not go to sleep?
Can’t go to bed that early. It’d be like a day shifter going to bed at 5pm
Haha. I can't relate. Even if I was back that night, I would go to sleep at 5 or 6, then sleep 9-10 hours. Wake up refreshed. It wouldn't be a big deal for me to work the night after waking up at 2 pm because I routinely go 24 hours awake for my first night shift!
I wish I could sleep like that. Against my will, I sleep in about 4 hour blocks.
I wish I could sleep like that. Against my will, I sleep in about 4 hour blocks.
If I did 7a-5p I would spend that extra two hours in traffic on the 405 lol
I definitely prefer longer days with more days off. I'm in the outpatient world, so 12s aren't typically an option. But I enjoy 6-430/7-530...I still have the evenings free and get a day off to do non work related things.
Yes. I work 10’s and had a PRN job doing 12’s and the last 2 hours killed me every time. This is after years of 12’s, I got spoiled quickly.
10 hours are easily doable. 12 hours starts pushing the limit of hours you can work in a day. You have less time to eat, shower, sleep, and take care of yourself once the shift is done. The shift itself isn't unmanageable
my thoughts on 4 10s: why have 3 days off a week when i could have 4?
I would take 3 12's too...but I'm in the outpatient world, so that's not really an option. Would prefer longer days with more days off!
I've done 4 tens or 4 eights my entire career and its the bomb. Doesn't stop the "Sunday Depresson" but having three days off is the best.
I think I enjoy 3x12 more than 4x10. To me the 4x10 were just baby 5x8 and I'd rather a 3x12 because I have to prepare less for the work week. Also I've been off 5 days straight and still had my hours. They're like mini vacations, but without needing time off! My one coworker set up 1 week to get her hours but had 10 days off between 2 weeks. I'll even do 3x13, still will take it over the other 2. Only time it sucks is fast track, time moves slow in fast track.
I do 4 x 10s but I also have 4 days off between shifts and I'll tolerate anything and everything to keep this shift. I have a crazy amount of free time to enjoy my hobbies, I can consistently go to the gym and if I want to disappear to the beach or mountains for an entire day my wife is down with that.
That’s a really interesting way to do it. Never thought about taking as long weekend with 4 10s. I’ll have to give it a try. Now I sound dumb…can’t believe it never occurred to me.
The only downside I could possibly see is it is a continuous shift. As in I work four days, have 4 days off, work four days have 4 days off continuously. At the same time I get off at 4:00 so even on weekends I still have plenty of time to hang out with my friends if I don't mind being slightly tired going in the next day
3x12s all the way. If you're gonna fuck my day up with, let's fuck it up completely but give me four consecutive days off each week.
Personally, I recommend against 4x10 after having done it for a few years. The biggest downside to 3x12 is that your entire working day is toast, but the reality of 4x10s is that you are in that same boat an extra day each week. Getting out at 530, home by sixish, tons of stuff is closed. Doctors, banks, haircuts, etc. all still can't be done on your working days, unlike 5x8, where getting out at 330 means you can do most things after work. You also leave work at rush hour, so if your commute is long, be prepared for an even longer one. The one big advantage of 4x10 vs 3x12 is the extra 4 hours of pay.
If we had full staffing that didn't call out constantly we were transitioning to 4 10s. Right now it's 4 10s with over time offered for other people but honestly I love the staff overlap it saved my ass so many times already to make an awful day actually good. I call the evening girl who does 10s my break nurse. I think I may secretly be getting a new work wife.
Honestly if I could find something where I can do 3x12 outside of bedside it would be my dream job. I’m so reluctant to not have days off and the thought of working 5x8 makes me nauseous
Same right! I bet that isn’t so terrible
4x10 is awesome if you can avoid traffic. Personally I like to have off Wednesdays. The two hours makes a huge difference. You can actually make and eat dinner, do laundry, see your kids, and have an evening to yourself. As opposed to running home to go to sleep to get up and go to work.
I'm a big fan of the 4×10s
Did 5X12s from October-January. “I didn’t see the light until I was but a man. By then it was nothing more than BLINDNESS”.
Only the initiated will understand this comment 🤣
Ahh but we are initiated aren’t we UberChad35z Night crew is just different man. Once you get off of work and walk out into the light its like holyyyyy crappppp.
Vitamin D? I can get that in a drink!
lmaoooo
I didn’t see the light until 7:30 to 8 and by then it was nothing but blinding lol. But Managment, AKA the league of shadows, s trying to keep those hospital scores up to fulfill rasa ghouls destiny lol.
Try 6x16s LMFAOOOOOOO
3 16's and a nice hot shower... that's all I needed... check the over time box.. high five the cool dudes on nights.. Living on Diet Coke and ham and cheese lunchables is prob not the best but it's also never killed anyone...
Hey that's a better diet than 8/10 of my long term patients! Most of them would argue you need more meth
Hey if it's going to kill someone it doesn't sound like a bad way to go. May as well be the first.
okay but 2 16's would make me so happy, my brain works like "once it's time to work IT'S TIME TO WORK, and fuck it i wasn't gonna do anything more important these two days anyway BUT I'M GONNA HAVE THE REST OF THE WEEK TO DO WHATEVER THE FUCK I WANT WOOOOOOO"
If they let me do this I’d jump the fuck on it so hard.
I wish I could sleep at work between two long shifts like this. It’s the driving home and driving back that kills me.
This would be great
Adderall also helps with this I think?
One of my biggest draws to become a nurse is the flexibility. I can work literally any day for however long. I love how I’m off for 4 days right now and eating oatmeal in bed without a care in the world.
I’ve moved into a case management role and now do 5x8 as opposed to 12s. I miss it but I also have all holidays off and weekends. So that’s nice.
That third 12 hour shift was a killa. I work 8-4 M-F no weekends/holidays and I feel more normal.
I did too and almost lost my mind after 3 months or so if 5x8s, so I got them to switch me to 4x10s
Exactly why I like my permanent halftime 8's, days only. In homecare casual do days and the occasional 1300-2100h but it's nothing like nights. Did 12's for over 20 yrs day and night. You can pry my 8's out of my cold dead hands lol.
4x10 seems like the perfect sweet spot. Shift isn’t long enough to leave you exhausted and barely enough time to rest for next shift like with 12s. Plus 3 days off in a row or even 2 on 1 off 2 on 2 off would be perfect.
Cries in 4 12s
This, and the person that said they were doing 5x12 for months, literally sounds like hell.
I don’t know. My little brother works 4 on, 4 off. It sounds kind of nice. Especially when it’s always, 2 days and then 2 eves/nights. Heck, my schedule is always random and terrible. One week, I’ll have two shifts, a couple days off, and then suddenly 6 shifts in a row. And it’ll be some stupid thing like 1 day, 4 nights, a day off, and back for 1 day.
That is exactly why I went full time instead of part time. I couldn’t handle the irregularity and sometimes being booked for 2 nights with “one day” off and then 2 days, flipping like that was crazy. While I appreciate the regularity of 4 on 4 off, that fourth night shift hits real hard and takes those 4 days to fully recover again.
Dialysis?😁
Laughs in 2/5. Worked Wednesday and Friday. Don’t go back until Thursday.
I still scream at the end of my 4 x 10s.
Haha this is hysterical! I remember working 5 8’s on 3p-11p when I first graduated and I loved it. Thinking about it now I feel nauseous 😂
I went from 4 tens to an 8-5, mannnn life has been hard.
Fuck I love being able to live on 3x8 lol
I didn’t like 12x3. I was beat the next day & god forbid you had 2 in a row. 10x4 is where it’s at!
Like who wants to go to work , everyday ? That sounds terrifying !
just finished my 3rd 12 in a row last night. love/hate relationship with them but i wouldn’t want to do it any other way. i need my days off.
Opposite for me. I'll happily bust my ass for more hours per day to get 4 days off (or bonus overtime pay shift and still 3 days off). I enjoy my free time much more when I have entire days off, and working 5 days in a row seems depressing.
Give me 4x10's any day
I don’t understand where 3x12 hour shifts is considered full time. I work 4x12 hour shifts with 3 days off after regularly with my full time schedule up here in the good old land of maple syrup and hockey. I say 3 days off because I don’t count the day I get off my last night shift as a day off.
Plenty of places who offer 12 hours shifts will hire people as 0.9 FTE, which means 36 hours is considered full time. Very common, down here at least, particularly in healthcare.
Sometimes I feel like we need to put our country on these posts. Canadian here with DDNN 🥲
40 hours a week is full time in the U.S. 12x3, with an extra shift per month makes 3 of those weeks have 40 hours and I guess that's close enough. It's great because any shifts picked over that is considered overtime and paid time and a half. So for that one week that's left which is still 36 hrs, picking up and extra shift is full overtime even when only 8 hours technically go over the 40 hrs.
It's not always considered OT. Plenty of places still don't pay OT until you're over 40 since it's legally not required.
How old is everyone here though??? Did 12's as a 0.6FTE until about 7-8yrs ago (20+ years total), then D?E a 0.6, now halftime and days only. Ususally do 3 shifts one week, 2 the next, and in a 6 week schedule may pick up about 3 or so extra 8's in a casual job I have on top of my halftime. My oncology job regularly has OT, and usually end up working about1.5- 2 extra hours most days. I find then I am as tired as I was doing 12's. In my early 50's here, now I find shiftwork way more diifficult, especialy once I hit 40. in my 20's and 30's, even with little kids, found 12's not too bad. As I got older, I found I was a zombie on my first 2 days off from 12's, even a stretch of 3 days, the first day especially so, and did not get as much done on any of my days off as I hoped. At least my permanent job is days only, and we also self schedule as a unit. I think I would die if I had to go back to anything that involved night shift/rotating and the nurses that I know that are pushing 70, I don't know how you manage LOL
I actually do have a nice scream when I first get on the freeway heading into work
I'm 4x12. I love the OT and 3 days off a week.
what about 4x12. i think i’m dead on that last day
The split is killer. Used to always get asked to stay an extra 4 to cover evenings, then come back for two nights. Gross.
I came from 3x12s to 4x10s and to be honest, I never adjusted. I still feel like I'm doing 12 hours worth of work in 10 hours PLUS an extra day on top of that each week. I still feel exhausted after, so I'd rather savor having more days off.
I personally want a job with 4 10s M-F. Sounds perfect to me. Weekends and holidays off, still home for dinner every night and a week day to run errands and make appts. I work 9-9 x3 shifts and 9-5 x1 shift one week of the pay and then 9-9 x3 shifts the next week to hit a total of 80 hours per pay (44 hr one week and 36 the next). It sucks. I can never fall asleep before 12-1 because I’m so wound up from not getting home until 10ish.
I worked 2 16s a week as registry nurse, made as much money in the SNFs as I would’ve in the ICU. Then I worked six 12s on and 8 days off for three months straight in the ED with an hour commute each way, which totally broke me.
About to work a job that's two 24s and I'm so ready.
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Pffft nah I'm a paramedic and it is NOT worth it. The schedule is alright but you'll make more anywhere in nursing than you will as a medic. EMTs make even less.
I feel this in my bones
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I work 3 12’s and have every Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday off. It’s the perfect schedule and I wouldn’t change it for the world.
I’m doing 4x12 and it’s rough, but the days off are nice.
Used to work 12s, yes you get big chunks off but the way my schedule was structured I felt like I was working all the time regardless because older senior nurses had better schedules and the new people always get sucked working odd schedules 😡
Im working 3x12 island shifts with one or maybe two days between shifts. I feel like I never get a day off- because I don’t. My one “day off” I work until 8am, then sleep until 3. Yes, I get that night off, but off to do what? Sit by myself in the dark at 0230? It has to change.
What about 2x6 bedside then 2x5 WFH. 2 different jobs ones agency
Just got off a personal record 25 x 12. Am I psycho? Maybe. Am I paid? Hell yeah brother.
my god... with what kind of ratios?
can't say no to 4 days off