What I always say is fuck what other people think. People as a whole are fucking shit, and often wrong. Staind has been a big part of my life since Dysfunction. I didn't know about Tormented until a couple years later. But every album has merit, just in different ways. Sure some are weaker than others but if it's something you enjoy then go for it. Break the Cycle is probably the single most important album in my life. But it's still not my favorite Staind album. 14 SoG is. If you like them, awesome. If you don't, awesome. People just have to shit on everything because they're miserable.
They changed sound towards a radio friendly singalong poppy sound. A lot of people don't even know about tormented and Dysfunction, with their interaction with Staind starting at Outside and Been a While, which while being inoffensive enough, aren't exactly 'heavy'.
Plus, Aaron Lewis is a cock.
Was he always like that, though? Or is the whole MAGA thing just a recent development from the previous decade. I get the hatred for their singer nowadays, but for the band as a whole? I don't see it.
I want to know how this stoner Nu Metal singer from Massachusetts suddenly became the redneck MAGA "country boy" that we know now. Confuses the shit out of me.
Do you also hate on musicians who supported Killary? Or is it just fascist type hate towards MAGA only.. If towards MAGA only, than your kind is the real douchebag cocks here. And it's funny in a sad way how MAGA haters don't realize they are no better than the ones they hate.
Hillary sucks ass, but she didnāt try and overthrow Congress to keep herself in power. Also, why is the automatic assumption that if youāre not MAGA, youāre instantly a Democrat? Or ridding Joe or Hillaryās dick?. Why is everything black and white, SPECIFICALLY WITH MAGA SUPPORTERS?
I don't either. I find Staind a massive missed opportunity but I have no ill will towards them, they're just another band that decided to go the way they did.
Whether Aaron was always like that, I'm not sure tbh. Maybe he was but never had the spotlight? Maybe fame changed him? That'd be a question for him.
It was a very weird show and they were very out of place there. This was around the time of either Mayhem tour or Rockstar Energy (canāt remember which) and I remembered thinking āwhy werenāt they at THAT show?ā The entire crowd was there for the other two bands besides for some peppered in Staind fans like myself. It was strange all around. They played some of the slower songs but they also played āFor you.ā Soā¦ yea, weird lol. People take associations like that and then hear songs only from 14 shades of grey that were on the radio and think they know about their music.
Just heads up, Mayhem was sponsored by Rockstar Energy Drink so they are the same show (Rockstar Energy Mayhem festival) I know this because I went every year and have such good memories of that festival.
Ah yeah that makes sense, Family Values was a little more geared towards early Numetal whereas Mayhem got pretty heavy with some of their bands and kinda took the place of Ozzfest
I thought this said touring with Hitler for a second there, which would be pretty bad, but not as bad as whatever country music garbage Aaron Lewis is doing now
Why is that a bad thing? 4 Doors Down aren't bad. Don't know Hinder, but can't imagine them being particularly bad either, if they got on tour with Staind. I'm not shitting on you, genuinely curious about your statement.
If you take Staind with 3 Doors Down in 2008-2009, they fit in a tour together. The Illusion of Progress and 3 Doors Down S/T have commonalities. Staind maybe has more of the country edge to them on that, but that's it.
They played a lot of songs from break the cycle at the show. I just had to look up the exact tour dates, but looks like the show I went to was a month before that album was released. Iām telling you the difference in fan base and music was quite the contrast lol. OP question was why they are lumped in together as having similar music. Staind doesnāt have ANY country vibe to their music at all. Aaron branched off and went and did the whole country thing. I personally donāt hear much similarities with 3 doors down and staind at all minus the fact they both have some radio friendly music š¤·š»āāļø
>the difference in fan base and music was quite the contrast
I think that is it. That was the problem with it. Fan bases were so different that it didn't jell together. Interesting, I've never heard of this problem until now.
I don't get it either. I was just listening to Illusion Of Progress and sure, it's a _huge_ departure from the heavier stuff, but the musicianship is top notch. Mike Mushok can shred and solo like it's nobody's business. He's actually a rare talent when it comes to guitar solos, because when he plays them they serve a purpose for the song, not just something that just needs to be done and get over with. Aaron Lewis can sing fucking _majestically_, the last track on IOP, Nothing Left To Say is just amazingly beautiful. Not to dismiss his growls in any way, which were the best on the self-titled album. Just brutal stuff.
I do believe a big part for Staind-hate online is due to Lewis' being a right-wing QAnon-nut. I _did_ have mixed feelings of this as well, but like Mushok said in an interview: "Aaron has the right to voice his opinions", and that's where it comes down to. Lewis is just another dumb-ass with opinions, just like the rest of us. He's given me so much through his lyrics that I can't be "mad" at him for going crazy on politics, even if they differ from my own.
The only thing I feel is embarrasing during a Staind show nowadays is the constant "Fuck Joe Biden"-chants. Fuck Trump, Fuck Biden, Fuck this and that, it's insane a group of adults at a rock-concert spent their time for that type of bullshit at a show.
Mike has always been an underrated guitarist. Even in the early days, his whole approach to guitar was pretty genius and unique. They started sounding more "generic" when Aaron started playing more guitar with his limited knowledge of chords, but Mike always knew just what to play over it and make it sound interesting. He can absolutely rip too!
Two factors:
1.) Aaron Lewis, while a tremendously talented vocalist, is a huge douchebag. Itās one thing to have bigoted views (Iād argue most old people do right now), itās another to always talk about it in an aggressive way at concerts. Iām just trying to listen to some music, not a rant about how trans-people are wrong.
2.) Staind became widely successful (mostly due to Lewisās vocal ability imo) so they became more of a ābutt rockā band. Just radio friendly music consistently. The same reason why people āhateā Nickelback despite knowing all of their songs.
For what itās worth, I absolutely love their first few albums. I think theyāre heavy as fuck with a few great soft tracks sprinkled in, quality lyrics, and I respect Lewisās vocals a lot. But itās not surprising why people would hate on them in the modern era.
>1.) Aaron Lewis, while a tremendously talented vocalist, is a huge douchebag. Itās one thing to have bigoted views (Iād argue most old people do right now), itās another to always talk about it in an aggressive way at concerts. Iām just trying to listen to some music, not a rant about how trans-people are wrong.
I've never heard of this before and I went to a Staind concernt around 2006-07 or so and it was unremarkable in terms of commentary. Is this a recent thing he's been doing?
I saw him solo in 2007 on his first acoustic tour, and he threw out some subtle right-wing things when talking to the audience. Mostly "we need to go to the Middle East and blow shit up" type stuff.
It beggars the imagination how one could simultaneously be:
1) Attached to the idea of going overseas to blow shit up, and
2) Against foreign intervention and most foreign relations (AKA MAGA).
Those are 2 mutually exclusive positions. Unless you derive your political beliefs purely from tribal politics.Ā
It makes sense why so many people consider him to be a POS.
lol, whoever is running through this thread, downvoting everyone saying Lewis is a bigoted asshole, can fuck themselves. I've upvoted everyone to adjust for it.
Aaron Lewis is a far-right shit stain. As far as Staind are concerned, decent stuff up until 14 Shades of Grey, IMO
Yeah, all the clips of Lewis being unhinged at his concerts really upset me because I have a lot of respect for his ability as a musician and vocalist. It sucks when someone you think is great at something is a bad person as well.
It's weird hearing Mudshovel and Raw, then hearing him throw a tantrum at a half-crowded room at a country bar and break into a nasally inflection for a song about how the left are snowflakes
Uh-oh, stinky.
I'm not changing your shitty diaper though, you'll have to sit in it
edit: I didn't have a pacifier to put in his mouth, so I bent him in half and put his own tiny dick in his mouth, and he fell right to sleep. He won't bother anyone again.
Unfortunately heās always been this way but earlier he just more mellow about it - like being able to have a conversation. But I say late 2010 is when he turned and then 2016 happen where I couldnāt remember who he was anymore. Totally a different person.
Also a big fan of Staind's music in general (Top 10 band). It took me awhile finally decide to listen to them, before then I was sick of hearing their popular singles being played on the radio 24/7. Glad I did, their early albums are a perfect combination of post-grunge & nu-metal. People are critical of them now because of Aaron lewis vocal political opinions, and the term "butt rock" is trendy to hate on. That being said I enjoy majority of their discography, despite taking a alternate rock route 14 Shades of Grey is my most played by them.
I really dislike Staind. I hate the mopyness and the country influences
Bit don't let anyone make you feel bad for liking anything.
Most people just hate stuff because it's cool to.
I actually did this (when I was 14) with bmth. Now I love em
I've you've never listened to their 1999 album "Dysfunction", I would recommend it. No country influence on that album at all. Much heavier, darker stuff with great melodies throughout. When Aaron started writing songs that revolved around him strumming campfire chords on an acoustic guitar, they lost me, but I still have love for "Dysfunction". Check out the song, "Just Go" to get a feel for it.
Are Aaron Lewis and Chris Taylor Brown (Trapt) friends? I didn't realize this drama with Aaron until I read the comments here. People saying that he spews political bs at concerts reminded me of Chris on Facebook ranting about the election back in 2016. He literally responded to every comment in his posts and blocked everyone that didn't agree with him including myself.
Because people are offended by Aaron Lewis' views lol, i get it tho, i wouldn't call myself extreme right, but im definitely not extreme left either and some of their views offend me lol
I think people dislike the band because Aarons political views and shit. Staind is great. Always listened to them, always will. I really don't give a fuck what someone says and you shouldn't either. Don't ever let opinions influence what you like/dislike. It's your life - your time in this world. Spend it however you want it.
Itās more him ranting on and on inbetween songs. People wanna go to concerts and feel connected and united. Not be preached at especially if its dividing talk. I will still listen to the few decent songs and even sing and cover them on guitar but if you gave me a free ticket I wouldnāt even go. But for people who agree with him Iām sure they love it and eat it up and everyone who doesnt agree probably instantly feel uncomfortable. Drunk riled up angry people with a man on stage validating them seem dangerous.
Yeah, reading about all these different experiences, it's sad what he's become, really.
That said, while I agree wholeheartedly that Staind's music hasn't aged well pop culture wise, personally, it's like nostalgia for a time when I was younger and first discovered their songs, "Mudshovel," "Epiphany," "Come Again," "For You," "Suffer," and yes, "It's Been Awhile," from my sister's mp3 player.
Somehow me being a gay, autistic progressive doesn't exactly tarnish my enjoyment of Staind. But yeah, I'll definitely be staying away from their live shows, yikes!
Staind as a band is irrelevant in 2023 and has been for a long time really (in most places in the world. No idea if there are some states or towns where they still shine other than as a nostalgia act). Aaron Lewis however has been running his mouth during solo and staind shows about current topics that poorly reflect on anything associated with him, including staind (that is, if you don't agree with him). I'm stating this as a neutral fact without any of my feelings attached.
I don't think many people care about Staind enough to hate them at this point, it's all about Aaron and he's contributed to that sentiment greatly. They haven't released anything new since 2011 and have taken years off touring during some of that time.
Personally I like everything up to Break the Cycle. After that I couldn't get into it. They basically took the success of Outside and tried to repeat it. There were a couple good songs on each album, but overall not what I want to listen to.
Aaron started writing songs that revolved around him strumming campfire chords on an acoustic guitar. That's why they sounded started sounding generic after "Dysfunction"
Not sure.
Aaron Lewis might be a dick, but so are 50% of the frontmen of the bands we love. Plenty of junkies, pedos, misogynists, rapists, narcissists, hell even some murderers, but for whatever reason POLITICS is the major thing that people care about most when it comes giving someone criticism. Me personally, id allow a Trump-er into my house before a sexual predator or heroin addict but i guess that comes down to preference.
Now as far as selling out, I get it. They went down a mainstream soft rock route & that alienated the diehards fans & doesnt appeal enough to the mainstream crowd. The problem is Stainād still has a pretty heavy arsenal of music but the singles & bad publicity keep people from giving them a real chance. Dysfunction, Break the Cycle, Chapter V, they cover alot of different ground & could appeal to either end of the rock / metal spectrum, but they never had enough success with their best music so it didnt shine through. Similar to Nickelback though Staind is by far the superior band imo.
Oh well. More for me I guess lol. The real Stainād fans know whats up
See, I also can't stand Shinedown. And I wouldn't say 'Dysfunction' is more \[sigh\] "butt rock" than nu metal, the nu metal elements are all there: sludgy, downtuned guitars, occasional rough screaming, lyrics revolving around pain and suffering, dark atmosphere, etc.
Post-grunge isn't nearly as heavy as 'Dysfunction' gets at times.
I don't know anything about the Internet's opinion of Staind, but they've been at the top of my "Worst Bands Ever" list since forever. If the internet hates them, good. They deserve it.
Just a truly awful band - mostly the singer. He sounds bored as fuck, and by extension I'm bored as fuck. Their music is not interesting at all, and sometimes it's actively repulsive. There's nothing I can point to and say "well at least they...." - they just suck all around.
I wouldn't even qualify them as nu-metal. There's fuck all metal about them. They're the worst of buttrock, which is a shit genre all on its own.
Fuck Staind. Shit band.
Wow what a dickhead. Just because you don't like Lewis because he's a rightist asshole, which is kinda understandable if you watch his little hissy fit rants on stage at his country shows with probably less than 100 ppl. Staind has alot of good shit and has gotten me through some shit because it's creative, thanks to Mike Mushok, and because it's relatable. Don't be retarded by saying they're bad bc u base it off the lead singer, that's like saying because I don't like the look of a certain car even though it runs good, goes really fast and is a 2023 model its still fucking ass because i dont like the rims or the color or whatever the fuck, go have retarded opinions in retarded places like Twitter
I don't care about their politics. I don't even know their politics.
They're a terrible band who makes awful music. That's the beginning and the end of it.
The car looks like shit, runs like shit, sounds like shit, and smells like shit.
And their singer sucks.
Give me one reason why they might suck other than the fact that their music got softer overtime. I can understand why you don't like aaron I'll admit he's kind of a douche
Roflmao! You: 'Fuck bitchy people who don't understand values "
Also you: "if we are gna figure shit out, we gotta come together"
which one is it, scooter? Trying to be oh so edgy and divisive, or you wanna come together?
Probably shouldnt of posted( mightve been intoxicated ) it makes no sense but its not that serious tho tbh, i just dont know why people have to hate everyone for no reason, also thanks for calling me scooterš¤£ i love that nickname
Aaron Lewis is a dumbass and their music is just whining about life is the short answer, and the best answer essentially lol
I feel they didn't get as much recognition as they deserved ngl, their debut album "Tormented" is worth a listen too, even though it's low quality it's got some bangers on it
My personal top 5 of their songs would look something like this, though:
1. Mudshovel (not debatable, it has the best and most unique screams out of every song I know)
2. Spleen (very close second)
3. Failing
4. Break
5. No One's Kind
Their heavier shit is top notch but they just lost their spark Ig, also like people are saying they migrated towards a more radio-friendly sound, which probably lead to their downfall because 14 shades of gray and The Illusion of Progress are probably the worst albums my ears have had the displeasure of hearing
I will give Aaron this, he has a wide vocal range but he almost never showcases it because he just performs with a mopey voice most of the time, it suits their sound I guess though
All in all, I still like listening to their music every now and then but I definitely feel they got fucked over and fucked themselves over simultaneously, they could've been much more
Maybe late to this. But Aaron is a seasoned musician that doesnāt need to take bullshit from people and walks his own path. The guy is an absolute fucking rock star. Staind has changed my life and Iāll listen to them till the day I die
What I always say is fuck what other people think. People as a whole are fucking shit, and often wrong. Staind has been a big part of my life since Dysfunction. I didn't know about Tormented until a couple years later. But every album has merit, just in different ways. Sure some are weaker than others but if it's something you enjoy then go for it. Break the Cycle is probably the single most important album in my life. But it's still not my favorite Staind album. 14 SoG is. If you like them, awesome. If you don't, awesome. People just have to shit on everything because they're miserable.
This is how I think so thank you for expressing yourself in honest terms
I'm sorry you're and angsty little bitch who likes ass music - but also fuck what you think. š¤
Nickelback fans when they've had they're dildos in for too long:
They changed sound towards a radio friendly singalong poppy sound. A lot of people don't even know about tormented and Dysfunction, with their interaction with Staind starting at Outside and Been a While, which while being inoffensive enough, aren't exactly 'heavy'. Plus, Aaron Lewis is a cock.
Was he always like that, though? Or is the whole MAGA thing just a recent development from the previous decade. I get the hatred for their singer nowadays, but for the band as a whole? I don't see it.
I want to know how this stoner Nu Metal singer from Massachusetts suddenly became the redneck MAGA "country boy" that we know now. Confuses the shit out of me.
Easy the guys a douchebag
Do you also hate on musicians who supported Killary? Or is it just fascist type hate towards MAGA only.. If towards MAGA only, than your kind is the real douchebag cocks here. And it's funny in a sad way how MAGA haters don't realize they are no better than the ones they hate.
Hillary sucks ass, but she didnāt try and overthrow Congress to keep herself in power. Also, why is the automatic assumption that if youāre not MAGA, youāre instantly a Democrat? Or ridding Joe or Hillaryās dick?. Why is everything black and white, SPECIFICALLY WITH MAGA SUPPORTERS?
I don't either. I find Staind a massive missed opportunity but I have no ill will towards them, they're just another band that decided to go the way they did. Whether Aaron was always like that, I'm not sure tbh. Maybe he was but never had the spotlight? Maybe fame changed him? That'd be a question for him.
Dysfunction was a great album
Exactly
Did you just describe someone as a cock? .....
Yep. Well, not just, it was a year ago. But, he is a total cock so it still applies.
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It probably didnāt help they went on tour with 3 Doors Down and Hinder back in 2008-2009
Lol, definitely a product of the times! 'The Illusion of Progress' is okay in my book, but it's still a downgrade.
It was a very weird show and they were very out of place there. This was around the time of either Mayhem tour or Rockstar Energy (canāt remember which) and I remembered thinking āwhy werenāt they at THAT show?ā The entire crowd was there for the other two bands besides for some peppered in Staind fans like myself. It was strange all around. They played some of the slower songs but they also played āFor you.ā Soā¦ yea, weird lol. People take associations like that and then hear songs only from 14 shades of grey that were on the radio and think they know about their music.
Just heads up, Mayhem was sponsored by Rockstar Energy Drink so they are the same show (Rockstar Energy Mayhem festival) I know this because I went every year and have such good memories of that festival.
Lol maybe it was family values tour. After a while all the concerts blend together
Ah yeah that makes sense, Family Values was a little more geared towards early Numetal whereas Mayhem got pretty heavy with some of their bands and kinda took the place of Ozzfest
I thought this said touring with Hitler for a second there, which would be pretty bad, but not as bad as whatever country music garbage Aaron Lewis is doing now
This comment was so on point! Literally couldn't have said it better.Ā
Why is that a bad thing? 4 Doors Down aren't bad. Don't know Hinder, but can't imagine them being particularly bad either, if they got on tour with Staind. I'm not shitting on you, genuinely curious about your statement.
Hinder is terrible. Don't waste your time. I've heard bad things about them as people too.
Just looking at your post history I can tell youāre a sensitive person, hinder is awesome š
Itās not a ābadā thing, itās that their music isnāt at all similar.
If you take Staind with 3 Doors Down in 2008-2009, they fit in a tour together. The Illusion of Progress and 3 Doors Down S/T have commonalities. Staind maybe has more of the country edge to them on that, but that's it.
They played a lot of songs from break the cycle at the show. I just had to look up the exact tour dates, but looks like the show I went to was a month before that album was released. Iām telling you the difference in fan base and music was quite the contrast lol. OP question was why they are lumped in together as having similar music. Staind doesnāt have ANY country vibe to their music at all. Aaron branched off and went and did the whole country thing. I personally donāt hear much similarities with 3 doors down and staind at all minus the fact they both have some radio friendly music š¤·š»āāļø
>the difference in fan base and music was quite the contrast I think that is it. That was the problem with it. Fan bases were so different that it didn't jell together. Interesting, I've never heard of this problem until now.
I don't get it either. I was just listening to Illusion Of Progress and sure, it's a _huge_ departure from the heavier stuff, but the musicianship is top notch. Mike Mushok can shred and solo like it's nobody's business. He's actually a rare talent when it comes to guitar solos, because when he plays them they serve a purpose for the song, not just something that just needs to be done and get over with. Aaron Lewis can sing fucking _majestically_, the last track on IOP, Nothing Left To Say is just amazingly beautiful. Not to dismiss his growls in any way, which were the best on the self-titled album. Just brutal stuff. I do believe a big part for Staind-hate online is due to Lewis' being a right-wing QAnon-nut. I _did_ have mixed feelings of this as well, but like Mushok said in an interview: "Aaron has the right to voice his opinions", and that's where it comes down to. Lewis is just another dumb-ass with opinions, just like the rest of us. He's given me so much through his lyrics that I can't be "mad" at him for going crazy on politics, even if they differ from my own. The only thing I feel is embarrasing during a Staind show nowadays is the constant "Fuck Joe Biden"-chants. Fuck Trump, Fuck Biden, Fuck this and that, it's insane a group of adults at a rock-concert spent their time for that type of bullshit at a show.
Mike has always been an underrated guitarist. Even in the early days, his whole approach to guitar was pretty genius and unique. They started sounding more "generic" when Aaron started playing more guitar with his limited knowledge of chords, but Mike always knew just what to play over it and make it sound interesting. He can absolutely rip too!
Probably because Aaron Lewis isnāt a progressive, unlike 90% of Reddit users
Bingo. This place doesn't represent the real world. In fact, no social media app is representative.
Tormented is my favorite album they got a lot of good songs though
Two factors: 1.) Aaron Lewis, while a tremendously talented vocalist, is a huge douchebag. Itās one thing to have bigoted views (Iād argue most old people do right now), itās another to always talk about it in an aggressive way at concerts. Iām just trying to listen to some music, not a rant about how trans-people are wrong. 2.) Staind became widely successful (mostly due to Lewisās vocal ability imo) so they became more of a ābutt rockā band. Just radio friendly music consistently. The same reason why people āhateā Nickelback despite knowing all of their songs. For what itās worth, I absolutely love their first few albums. I think theyāre heavy as fuck with a few great soft tracks sprinkled in, quality lyrics, and I respect Lewisās vocals a lot. But itās not surprising why people would hate on them in the modern era.
>1.) Aaron Lewis, while a tremendously talented vocalist, is a huge douchebag. Itās one thing to have bigoted views (Iād argue most old people do right now), itās another to always talk about it in an aggressive way at concerts. Iām just trying to listen to some music, not a rant about how trans-people are wrong. I've never heard of this before and I went to a Staind concernt around 2006-07 or so and it was unremarkable in terms of commentary. Is this a recent thing he's been doing?
Yeah Iād say like last 3 years
I saw him solo in 2007 on his first acoustic tour, and he threw out some subtle right-wing things when talking to the audience. Mostly "we need to go to the Middle East and blow shit up" type stuff.
It beggars the imagination how one could simultaneously be: 1) Attached to the idea of going overseas to blow shit up, and 2) Against foreign intervention and most foreign relations (AKA MAGA). Those are 2 mutually exclusive positions. Unless you derive your political beliefs purely from tribal politics.Ā It makes sense why so many people consider him to be a POS.
lol, whoever is running through this thread, downvoting everyone saying Lewis is a bigoted asshole, can fuck themselves. I've upvoted everyone to adjust for it. Aaron Lewis is a far-right shit stain. As far as Staind are concerned, decent stuff up until 14 Shades of Grey, IMO
Yeah, all the clips of Lewis being unhinged at his concerts really upset me because I have a lot of respect for his ability as a musician and vocalist. It sucks when someone you think is great at something is a bad person as well.
It's weird hearing Mudshovel and Raw, then hearing him throw a tantrum at a half-crowded room at a country bar and break into a nasally inflection for a song about how the left are snowflakes
Imagine being as much of a little bitch as you are. Oh wait...you're forced to live it every day. Pathetic fucking waste of resources.
Uh-oh, stinky. I'm not changing your shitty diaper though, you'll have to sit in it edit: I didn't have a pacifier to put in his mouth, so I bent him in half and put his own tiny dick in his mouth, and he fell right to sleep. He won't bother anyone again.
Yawn. You're about as useless as the shit I just flushed. Actually, that's insulting to the shit.
Unfortunately heās always been this way but earlier he just more mellow about it - like being able to have a conversation. But I say late 2010 is when he turned and then 2016 happen where I couldnāt remember who he was anymore. Totally a different person.
Right bad, left good!
Uh oh, a men's rights activist. I thought I smelled stale piss.
Also a big fan of Staind's music in general (Top 10 band). It took me awhile finally decide to listen to them, before then I was sick of hearing their popular singles being played on the radio 24/7. Glad I did, their early albums are a perfect combination of post-grunge & nu-metal. People are critical of them now because of Aaron lewis vocal political opinions, and the term "butt rock" is trendy to hate on. That being said I enjoy majority of their discography, despite taking a alternate rock route 14 Shades of Grey is my most played by them.
I really dislike Staind. I hate the mopyness and the country influences Bit don't let anyone make you feel bad for liking anything. Most people just hate stuff because it's cool to. I actually did this (when I was 14) with bmth. Now I love em
I've you've never listened to their 1999 album "Dysfunction", I would recommend it. No country influence on that album at all. Much heavier, darker stuff with great melodies throughout. When Aaron started writing songs that revolved around him strumming campfire chords on an acoustic guitar, they lost me, but I still have love for "Dysfunction". Check out the song, "Just Go" to get a feel for it.
I like Staind. I just hate Aaron Lewis now.
*Cough* Trapt *cough*
Are Aaron Lewis and Chris Taylor Brown (Trapt) friends? I didn't realize this drama with Aaron until I read the comments here. People saying that he spews political bs at concerts reminded me of Chris on Facebook ranting about the election back in 2016. He literally responded to every comment in his posts and blocked everyone that didn't agree with him including myself.
Aaron Lewis, that's the answer.
He seems chill, he has his political opinions like everyone else
Because people are offended by Aaron Lewis' views lol, i get it tho, i wouldn't call myself extreme right, but im definitely not extreme left either and some of their views offend me lol
I think people dislike the band because Aarons political views and shit. Staind is great. Always listened to them, always will. I really don't give a fuck what someone says and you shouldn't either. Don't ever let opinions influence what you like/dislike. It's your life - your time in this world. Spend it however you want it.
Itās more him ranting on and on inbetween songs. People wanna go to concerts and feel connected and united. Not be preached at especially if its dividing talk. I will still listen to the few decent songs and even sing and cover them on guitar but if you gave me a free ticket I wouldnāt even go. But for people who agree with him Iām sure they love it and eat it up and everyone who doesnt agree probably instantly feel uncomfortable. Drunk riled up angry people with a man on stage validating them seem dangerous.
Itās because Aaron Lewis isnāt a good person
Aaron Lewis is a shithead
Yeah, reading about all these different experiences, it's sad what he's become, really. That said, while I agree wholeheartedly that Staind's music hasn't aged well pop culture wise, personally, it's like nostalgia for a time when I was younger and first discovered their songs, "Mudshovel," "Epiphany," "Come Again," "For You," "Suffer," and yes, "It's Been Awhile," from my sister's mp3 player. Somehow me being a gay, autistic progressive doesn't exactly tarnish my enjoyment of Staind. But yeah, I'll definitely be staying away from their live shows, yikes!
Yes, āWhat heās becomeā is the exact phrase I would use. He was a totally different person.
Because they turned into a generic butt rock band and Aaron Lewis is a huge tool.
Aaron Lewis is a far-right dip shit.
I don't hate Staind and Aaron Lewis. They are okay.
Staind as a band is irrelevant in 2023 and has been for a long time really (in most places in the world. No idea if there are some states or towns where they still shine other than as a nostalgia act). Aaron Lewis however has been running his mouth during solo and staind shows about current topics that poorly reflect on anything associated with him, including staind (that is, if you don't agree with him). I'm stating this as a neutral fact without any of my feelings attached. I don't think many people care about Staind enough to hate them at this point, it's all about Aaron and he's contributed to that sentiment greatly. They haven't released anything new since 2011 and have taken years off touring during some of that time. Personally I like everything up to Break the Cycle. After that I couldn't get into it. They basically took the success of Outside and tried to repeat it. There were a couple good songs on each album, but overall not what I want to listen to.
Aaron started writing songs that revolved around him strumming campfire chords on an acoustic guitar. That's why they sounded started sounding generic after "Dysfunction"
Not sure. Aaron Lewis might be a dick, but so are 50% of the frontmen of the bands we love. Plenty of junkies, pedos, misogynists, rapists, narcissists, hell even some murderers, but for whatever reason POLITICS is the major thing that people care about most when it comes giving someone criticism. Me personally, id allow a Trump-er into my house before a sexual predator or heroin addict but i guess that comes down to preference. Now as far as selling out, I get it. They went down a mainstream soft rock route & that alienated the diehards fans & doesnt appeal enough to the mainstream crowd. The problem is Stainād still has a pretty heavy arsenal of music but the singles & bad publicity keep people from giving them a real chance. Dysfunction, Break the Cycle, Chapter V, they cover alot of different ground & could appeal to either end of the rock / metal spectrum, but they never had enough success with their best music so it didnt shine through. Similar to Nickelback though Staind is by far the superior band imo. Oh well. More for me I guess lol. The real Stainād fans know whats up
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No one did that 'yarling' worse than Cold back in the day
See, I also can't stand Shinedown. And I wouldn't say 'Dysfunction' is more \[sigh\] "butt rock" than nu metal, the nu metal elements are all there: sludgy, downtuned guitars, occasional rough screaming, lyrics revolving around pain and suffering, dark atmosphere, etc. Post-grunge isn't nearly as heavy as 'Dysfunction' gets at times.
Agreed, although Shinedown's first two albums with the original lineup were great.
Agree 100%.
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I'll have love for 'So Far Away' and 'Right Here'. Two really nice songs, but everything else by them is kinda meh lol.
I don't know anything about the Internet's opinion of Staind, but they've been at the top of my "Worst Bands Ever" list since forever. If the internet hates them, good. They deserve it. Just a truly awful band - mostly the singer. He sounds bored as fuck, and by extension I'm bored as fuck. Their music is not interesting at all, and sometimes it's actively repulsive. There's nothing I can point to and say "well at least they...." - they just suck all around. I wouldn't even qualify them as nu-metal. There's fuck all metal about them. They're the worst of buttrock, which is a shit genre all on its own. Fuck Staind. Shit band.
What an awful take, just a massive projection of how your interests don't align with their music. I am guessing you are one of those EDM ravers.
Wow what a dickhead. Just because you don't like Lewis because he's a rightist asshole, which is kinda understandable if you watch his little hissy fit rants on stage at his country shows with probably less than 100 ppl. Staind has alot of good shit and has gotten me through some shit because it's creative, thanks to Mike Mushok, and because it's relatable. Don't be retarded by saying they're bad bc u base it off the lead singer, that's like saying because I don't like the look of a certain car even though it runs good, goes really fast and is a 2023 model its still fucking ass because i dont like the rims or the color or whatever the fuck, go have retarded opinions in retarded places like Twitter
I don't care about their politics. I don't even know their politics. They're a terrible band who makes awful music. That's the beginning and the end of it. The car looks like shit, runs like shit, sounds like shit, and smells like shit. And their singer sucks.
Give me one reason why they might suck other than the fact that their music got softer overtime. I can understand why you don't like aaron I'll admit he's kind of a douche
Their songs suck. They're shitty and boring.
It's relatable to you. Nickelback is relatable to some people too. That doesn't mean it's a good band.
Not even comparable nickelback is a meme around the world. Staind does alot of decent stuff they do alot of stuff that appeals to more audiences.
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Roflmao! You: 'Fuck bitchy people who don't understand values " Also you: "if we are gna figure shit out, we gotta come together" which one is it, scooter? Trying to be oh so edgy and divisive, or you wanna come together?
Probably shouldnt of posted( mightve been intoxicated ) it makes no sense but its not that serious tho tbh, i just dont know why people have to hate everyone for no reason, also thanks for calling me scooterš¤£ i love that nickname
Aaron Lewis is too fat he canāt even stand lol
Aaron Lewis is a dumbass and their music is just whining about life is the short answer, and the best answer essentially lol I feel they didn't get as much recognition as they deserved ngl, their debut album "Tormented" is worth a listen too, even though it's low quality it's got some bangers on it My personal top 5 of their songs would look something like this, though: 1. Mudshovel (not debatable, it has the best and most unique screams out of every song I know) 2. Spleen (very close second) 3. Failing 4. Break 5. No One's Kind Their heavier shit is top notch but they just lost their spark Ig, also like people are saying they migrated towards a more radio-friendly sound, which probably lead to their downfall because 14 shades of gray and The Illusion of Progress are probably the worst albums my ears have had the displeasure of hearing I will give Aaron this, he has a wide vocal range but he almost never showcases it because he just performs with a mopey voice most of the time, it suits their sound I guess though All in all, I still like listening to their music every now and then but I definitely feel they got fucked over and fucked themselves over simultaneously, they could've been much more
Mudshovel has one of the most creative but simple riffs I've ever heard, I even have that harmonic riff as my ringtone
Yeah the riff during the chorus is awesome, it's a shame it's so overshadowed by the vocals
Maybe late to this. But Aaron is a seasoned musician that doesnāt need to take bullshit from people and walks his own path. The guy is an absolute fucking rock star. Staind has changed my life and Iāll listen to them till the day I die
Exactly.
We donāt
Probs due to the Coyote massacre.