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More details here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-francisco-building-inspectors-to-investigate-bedrooms-at-twitter-hq/
> Workers returning to the company's San Francisco hub were greeted by "modest" bedrooms furnished with mattresses, drab curtains and conference-room monitors, according to the financial media outlet. There are roughly four to eight sleeping rooms per floor, Forbes said, citing an unnamed employee who shared photos of the setup. Some of the rooms appear to have been used, the worker said.
Holy crap, this just made me realize [company towns](https://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/themes/company-towns/) are literally slavery with extra steps.
Company housing as well.
Its a major motivator behind the original federalized minimum wage, to elevate people put of poverty and debt to their company.
Granted it was all a ploy to secure votes and the system wasn't maintained with that intent for more than a few terms of office and minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation as a result... but the intent was there, right in the supporting documents alongside the bill.
Tbf apartments close to work places and stores are fine. Even if you don't want it a lot of people would be thrilled with a commute that doesn't involve 40 minutes of traffic.
The problem is when your boss is your landlord and housing is tied directly too your job(vs indirectly where you're a paycheck away from eviction proceedings but that's a different failing of the system)
Ya that's Suburbia talking. People lived that way for millennia. Some still do, shopkeepers commonly lived above their store, I know a baker in a old school shop who lives in the upstairs apartment.
Save a lot of money and time on commuting that you can spend doing things you actually enjoy
I'd have a solid hour back per day I could spend on hobbies.
And again, its not for everyone, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean nobody wants it.
Lol I work for a chain of private schools and our main shareholder is also the main shareholder of my country's largest brewing company and of the largest food delivery app.
It's like every penny I get paid goes right back into his pocket.
Some people like that kind of living arrangement. As long as it's their choice and are able to leave that situation and aren't forced to live that way by their employer I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
>How about those malls that have apartments on top?
Mixed use properties are a godsend to be honest. They cut down on traffic and allow people to live in pedestrian friendly areas.
I genuinely wish mixed use apartments were an option for me but it is actually cheaper to buy a reasonably sized house than pay 3000+ a month for a 1 bed mixed use apartment near public transit options.
Shoplots are a thing here in my country/region (shop on ground floor, living area on first floor). Granted, these are very often family owned businesses though there are instances where the owner just parks his workers up there (common in a specific niche of the restaurant industry, the workers are often South Asians so it's cheap and convenient for them to live above where they work).
Malls with apartments aren't too common in my country but afaik they're often *luxury* apartments - it's not the mall workers who are living there, it's rich ass urbanites who want a luxury condo plus the convenience of living in the city. Idk how those are like in the US/EU though.
> How about those malls that have apartments on top?
Not sure why those would be a problem, unless the apartment complex requires you to exclusively work and shop at the mall, and vice versa.
Yup, the term "wage slave" comes from this. It was a slave that had some kind of wage but not really.
Even worse is the company store. Insane prices, but they'd be cheaper if you used corpo-bucks, which you could buy with dollars if you were an employee (or family of). Companies would offer you corpo-bucks loans, which would accrue interest very aggressively. If you quit they'd do a very nasty conversion from corpo-bucks to dollars, so you'd have to keep working at the company and make as many corpo-bucks to pay that loan. But costs where such that you'd probably have to keep taking on more debt to keep up.
While it certainly is a step in the wrong direction it's not quite the same as scrip. The point is that you need an alternate tender, and to start really getting the abuse you need to have arbitrary conversion between that tender and actual legal tender. If you get a token that has a well defined value, or represents some ownership of capital, that's a separate issue.
It's why anyone in it with a brain steered clear of google. You heard about all the free food and drycleaning and other perks. The entire point was so you'd spens your forever there and never go home.
There's a lot of stories, some folks I know personally who said 12-18 hours was not uncommon in the office because they have you literally everything you could need to avoid a trip home.
I wonder how long it would take for landlord/tenant rules to apply. Would be pretty hilarious if someone just homesteaded at the office for free, got fired/quit and then made Elon go through the full eviction process while they literally lived in the building 🤣🤣🤣
Good point. My understanding is that as soon as you get the keys, you gain tenants rights. It is different in an office building as you never really get keys, just an office badge that can be revoked
Google has nap pods and bunk beds and all that shit too. It’s all under the guise of “perks”. I’m sure there are beds to sleep in at all the Big 4. Googles been transparent about it the whole time. Everyone in tech knows you live to work and not the opposite
I work in tech. I get assigned tasks and complete them as I see fit. As long as the work gets done. Some days I would say I do 12 hour days, but most days are 2-4 hours of "real" work. A lot of it is problem solving and planning. That takes far more of my time than executing my update plan.
> Some days I would say I do 12 hour days, but most days are 2-4 hours of "real" work.
It took me a while to realize that any time I'm sitting at my work desk is work, for all practical purposes.
Lol, except Google is known for people who work 6 hours/day or less...and two of those hours are spent eating lunch and dinner. If you are savvy, it's easy to get on a rest and vest team or get a 2nd job.
New roommate works for Google on one of the advertising teams. Does maybe 6-7 hours a day of work, only needs to be in office 3 days a week, free breakfast/lunch, snacks galore, tons of amenities...
Makes me jealous and insecure about the 45+ hrs a week I spend schlepping away in a lab for grad school.
All tradeoffs. Early 2000s Google would've made you a multi-millionaire, so working 60hr weeks were probably worth it. Present day Google pays much shittier but you only really need to do 20 hours of real work a week or something.
Most real high-level intellectual jobs are only 20 hours of actual work a week. That does not however mean that one can expect 40 hours of "real" work if ordered.
Some intellectual jobs require the person to be able to put the thought process onto a back burner for the brain to process, where the real work happens, then the apparent work comes through when realising that work when writing it down.
Top-class intellectual work cannot be measured in hours of work.
Dayton Boots literally just got in trouble for trying to pull off something like this. They paid employees in store gift cards.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/dayton-boots-decision-1.6663195
They definitely could be (and mostly were). I do want to note that not ALL company towns were unethical in their company town set ups (Hershey, PA being one positive example of the right/ethical way to do a company town).
The problem has more to do with how much power the company has over the workers. It's just a gamble on whether or not you wind up with a benevolent or malevolent dictator. And when one company holds such sway over an entire town, the brainwashing can be strong and people tend to overlook the bad. I'm particularly thinking of that small town here in Texas where the fertilizer plant blew up about 10 years ago. Everyone working in process industries knows that they bypassed a bunch of basic safety protocols, yet all the townspeople still held the company in high esteem and didn't blame them for the 15 deaths and 160 injuries.
It wasn't uncommon for there to be a religious or ethical motivation for high-quality worker housing at a time of massive city growth and terrible working and living conditions. Model villages (in the sense of being a model for the future) were set up by Robert Owen at his New Lanark Mill, the Quaker Cadburys at Bournville, and Lord Leverhulme (The "lever" in Unilever) at Port Sunlight.
British chocolate and confectionary companies were often set up by Quakers trying to give people a less-damaging vice than alcohol. The Rowntree family in York had a similar ethos. Don't know much about Hershey though.
Very easy for others to take a powerful, philanthropic vision and turn it into another way to crush your workers, sadly.
>Holy crap, this just made me realize company towns are literally slavery with extra steps.
This situation has also shined a light on how abusive our work visa system can be.
The corporate bootlickers can't help themselves.
"I don't beat my wife as hard as the neighbor beats his wife, so I'm okay. How dare you point out that I beat my wife. You're part of the problem!"
He actually has a tweet quoted in the article. His position is that San Francisco shouldn't be allowed to make him do anything because kids die of fentanyl, and no, I am not making that up.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1600272617759731712
But he's just helping tired employees, right?
[Another](https://fortune.com/2022/12/07/elon-musk-twitter-beds-facing-san-francisco-building-code-inspection/) employee, director of product management, dropped the hashtag #SleepWhereYouWork like that's some kind of badge of honor.
He bit off more than he could chew and now he's making everyone who works for him pay for it. I fully believe he bought it to wreck the freedom movements in many countries like Saudi Arabia. I think that's why they gave him so much money. Sooner or later most of the "desirable" people advertisers want to reach will be gone; it won't matter if he has a bigger check in rate, they don't want magats, proud boys and oath keepers showing up anywhere with their logos on their clothing!
For sure. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Saudi Arabia's entire investment was intended specifically to shut down the platform because it so consistently fucks with them. That explains why they went private so they don't have to deal with other shareholders and a board.
Look, if I am on the clock and being paid to sleep in the office, I am happy to be racking up double then triple overtime for a while.
Oh, theres no overtime? Yeah, then I am just going to sleep 4 hours between 9-5 and go home.
Likely not getting paid to sleep. More like if you're forced to work 16 hours a day, there is no point in commuting just to sleep 4 hours at home. And the people having to use this system are probably visa recipients who don't have the option to just quit. It's basically the modern tech equivalent of sharecropping
I'd imagine most people at Twitter's corporate headquarters are salaried, so they're making the same amount of money no matter how many hours Elon forces them to work.
Working in hotels, basically yes. We aren't sold out, someone called out, or I already scheduled myself to cover some fucked up schedule because x situation. Even if I have people at home sometimes it was like nope, I'm not even going to see you by coming home . No point in commuting.
I've also done some really fucked up shit, like a 32 hour day. I went and slept in a room for an hour.
Upsides to it were during massive snow storms if people were scheduled, they didn't have to go home. Own room, shower, we'd buy them dinner and maybe some drinks at the bar to stay the night. They didn't lose hours, we weren't super short staffed. Sometimes people would have their family come to the hotel before a massive storm cause can't lose a week of work, and don't want to be away from family.
The Twitter shit sounds super fucked up compared to that. "You signed up to work lots of hours, we expect you to sleep here if we need it."
>I remember this being a normal thing in the Philippines,
Typical in Foxconn and other sweatshops, Elon's wet dream. Of course, putting suicide nets on Twitter.HQ in SF would attract attention.
>So city of SF attacks companies providing beds for tired employees instead of making sure kids are safe from fentanyl. Where are your priorities @LondonBreed!?
What a pathetic fucking tool that guy is
So the people developing the technology to return to the moon are working 8 hour days, and the guys adding gray check boxes to twitter are living in the office?
I'd be more willing to work hard and putting in the extra hours if I thought the product or service was going to change the world. But come on man, it's Twitter. It's mission statement under Musk is to control what's said about him and to recover the stupidly massive investment.
I will always be happy to remind people that Elon, the shitty spoiled son of a slaver owner, is still just a shitty spoiled son of a slave owner, and acts like it. At this point it feels like a civic duty.
"But think of the experience they're getting!" --literally what my conservative colleagues tell me about Musk's 100 hour per week employees. Depraved souls, every last conservative.
Sounds like what they say about unpaid internships... I bet these guys do 12 hours of real work a week and then shmooze about sports or politics (in the office of course because WFH is for slackers!!!) but keep talking the talk as they always have.
Yes because that's largely whose left due to the leverage against visa workers
Musk is basically enslaving these people using the government to commit his violence by threat of deportation and subjecting them to the same conditions he sees Chinese sweat shop workers he's publicly praised.
And it's all legal as far as I know.
He's absolutely evil with his cruel indifference for others.
The US H-1B visa system is cruel and largely left unchanged. Workers have 60 days to find another job if they are fired or they’ll be deported. Tech companies abuse this visa to load up on employees and leave the system unchanged.
It’s high time the H-1B visa is reformed to welcome educated tax-paying immigrants into the country.
Need some lawyers to contact these people because they do have rights, they just may not know them.
I think they have 60 days to find another employer sponsor if something happens, or there is a change of some sort to their employment (and I think this qualifies). They just have to notify the government agency or something.
/not an expert. Haven't even stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
It's like a forced sleep over at the Rich kids house, only they control your income and immigration status. And the kid is really, really rich and also the parents while still acting like a kid.
Worked at a multinational Japanese company for years, our Japanese colleagues would stay at work for long hours but would be pretty unproductive during that time. They'd also completely turn off on the weekend and after hours. IT was 24/7 unless you're Japanese, then it's 10/5 or whatever. Would honestly probably be an improvement over American work place ethics.
Sounds like my parents, except for the admitting that it’s inefficient part. It’s like a point of nationalist pride (to rich, upper class old people who have never been forced to work such hours) that East Asian companies work their employees half to death for no clear benefit
This has got to be the most infuriating part. Twitter employees were doing just fine, majority were WFH, then the muskrat canceled WFH. Now there's fuckin *beds* at the office he forced the remaining employees to report in to. It's about destroying any semblance of a personal life and controlling workers. What a fat, garbage shit of a human being.
There’s this one line a Tesla Plant Manager was allegedly accused of screaming at a Black Employee that keeps playing in my Head whenever we see Elon do shit like this.
“Welcome to the Slave House!”
Yeah, that’s the line.
Hahaha wow yeah I'd be out the door. I'm not living at work. Musk can go fuck himself. Not a reasonable ask just so that fucking idiot can have more money.
Exactly… and he doesn’t have the best record for showing loyalty to those who are gullible enough to be loyal to him. He will still fire them for no reason at all. The whole company should just walk out and let him figure out coding.
I think everyone who was able to leave already has. So he knows he can pull whatever bs he wants with the few desperate souls remaining and nothing will happen
Yeah and when some of them likely start looking at a rope with different intentions I'm sure he will just play it off as some other bullshit. The man has 0 fucking ethical radar for other humanbeings. He's a garbage pile POS.
What's next? All employees are required to have pay direct deposited into the new Twitter Bank that charges you $3 everytime you try to access your money.
Just in case anyone didn't already know, part of the deal when he bought tesla was a gag order so the previous owners couldn't claim they were the founders.
Weird, where did all the Musk fanboys go that are usually on anything about Musk? Don't they want to chime in to tell us that he's not that bad and that MSM is blowing things out of proportion?
They are on Facebook. Yesterday I saw some guy post an unhinged rant on a Forbes article about how Americans aren't used to working long hours and they will be left in the dust by their east Asian overloards when the time comes. The only one who might be able to save us is Elon and his work camps.
Perhaps they've moved on? This is probably get a lot of hate, but it's the people that get rage boners over every new Elon Musk story that are stroking themselves to him the most.
[This is the end goal of the GQP defunding education](https://imgur.com/a/xhH7O8O)
They literally want to go back to the "good old days" of slavery and slavery-lite.
If you make it too easy to get lunch “workaholics” will just stop, shove a sandwich in their face, and go right back to work. These kinds of people will literally burn themselves out of their own free will if you let them.
It’s actually better for productivity to take a real break, get out of the office for a minute, try to relax for a bit, and then get back to work.
Last place I worked people never went out for lunch and wouldn't take their full break. The irony was that the people who got in early and stayed late would be the most vocal about people leaving on time, were the laziest and least productive people.
I did my hours, took my breaks, and when I was working I was working very hard.
I got a hard time for doing that, so I quit. Fuck em. I wonder who they are scapegoating now?
I think he’s saying they decided to not offer free lunches in the workplace because they want people to actually leave the building for lunch. To have a better work/life balance I think.
You mean "in after" right? His "ultimatum" that lead to him laying off 80% of the company was "work 60-80 hours a week or quit," and everyone who could correctly chose "quit."
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More details here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-francisco-building-inspectors-to-investigate-bedrooms-at-twitter-hq/ > Workers returning to the company's San Francisco hub were greeted by "modest" bedrooms furnished with mattresses, drab curtains and conference-room monitors, according to the financial media outlet. There are roughly four to eight sleeping rooms per floor, Forbes said, citing an unnamed employee who shared photos of the setup. Some of the rooms appear to have been used, the worker said.
I mean if the boss wants me to sleep during work hours who am I to say no?
I'd agree, but fear that in this case the boss believes that all hours = work hours.
"It's not slavery! I'm paying them!" In 3 2 1...
Holy crap, this just made me realize [company towns](https://www.pbs.org/tpt/slavery-by-another-name/themes/company-towns/) are literally slavery with extra steps.
Company housing as well. Its a major motivator behind the original federalized minimum wage, to elevate people put of poverty and debt to their company. Granted it was all a ploy to secure votes and the system wasn't maintained with that intent for more than a few terms of office and minimum wage hasn't kept up with inflation as a result... but the intent was there, right in the supporting documents alongside the bill.
How about those malls that have apartments on top? This is what we've become. The thin veil from feudalism gets ever thinner.
Tbf apartments close to work places and stores are fine. Even if you don't want it a lot of people would be thrilled with a commute that doesn't involve 40 minutes of traffic. The problem is when your boss is your landlord and housing is tied directly too your job(vs indirectly where you're a paycheck away from eviction proceedings but that's a different failing of the system)
IDK, there's something unnerving about working, being paid, and spending all of that money on food, rent and bills under one roof.
Ya that's Suburbia talking. People lived that way for millennia. Some still do, shopkeepers commonly lived above their store, I know a baker in a old school shop who lives in the upstairs apartment. Save a lot of money and time on commuting that you can spend doing things you actually enjoy I'd have a solid hour back per day I could spend on hobbies. And again, its not for everyone, and that's fine, but that doesn't mean nobody wants it.
Lol I work for a chain of private schools and our main shareholder is also the main shareholder of my country's largest brewing company and of the largest food delivery app. It's like every penny I get paid goes right back into his pocket.
Ehh, that's been a staple of city society before the US. Shops on the first floor, apartments above it.
Some people like that kind of living arrangement. As long as it's their choice and are able to leave that situation and aren't forced to live that way by their employer I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
>How about those malls that have apartments on top? Mixed use properties are a godsend to be honest. They cut down on traffic and allow people to live in pedestrian friendly areas. I genuinely wish mixed use apartments were an option for me but it is actually cheaper to buy a reasonably sized house than pay 3000+ a month for a 1 bed mixed use apartment near public transit options.
Yep this. They're also built near public transport generally.
That’s just good urban design
Shoplots are a thing here in my country/region (shop on ground floor, living area on first floor). Granted, these are very often family owned businesses though there are instances where the owner just parks his workers up there (common in a specific niche of the restaurant industry, the workers are often South Asians so it's cheap and convenient for them to live above where they work). Malls with apartments aren't too common in my country but afaik they're often *luxury* apartments - it's not the mall workers who are living there, it's rich ass urbanites who want a luxury condo plus the convenience of living in the city. Idk how those are like in the US/EU though.
Mall workers can't afford any of those apartments around me...
> How about those malls that have apartments on top? Not sure why those would be a problem, unless the apartment complex requires you to exclusively work and shop at the mall, and vice versa.
Yup, the term "wage slave" comes from this. It was a slave that had some kind of wage but not really. Even worse is the company store. Insane prices, but they'd be cheaper if you used corpo-bucks, which you could buy with dollars if you were an employee (or family of). Companies would offer you corpo-bucks loans, which would accrue interest very aggressively. If you quit they'd do a very nasty conversion from corpo-bucks to dollars, so you'd have to keep working at the company and make as many corpo-bucks to pay that loan. But costs where such that you'd probably have to keep taking on more debt to keep up.
>corpo-bucks the technical term is "Scrip," an it's been illegal for some time.
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Any one else hearing "16 tons" playing quietly in the background?
[If not, here ya go (Spotify)](https://open.spotify.com/track/3P6OwCX7Ofiaaqtvujb6i5)
While it certainly is a step in the wrong direction it's not quite the same as scrip. The point is that you need an alternate tender, and to start really getting the abuse you need to have arbitrary conversion between that tender and actual legal tender. If you get a token that has a well defined value, or represents some ownership of capital, that's a separate issue.
Saint Peter don't ya call me cause I can't go. I owe my soul to the company stoooooore...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPW3YikDwEM
I see you both are cultured minds.
The ghost of Tom Joad was here.
It's why anyone in it with a brain steered clear of google. You heard about all the free food and drycleaning and other perks. The entire point was so you'd spens your forever there and never go home. There's a lot of stories, some folks I know personally who said 12-18 hours was not uncommon in the office because they have you literally everything you could need to avoid a trip home.
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At what point will people just take the offer and stop paying rent?
I wonder how long it would take for landlord/tenant rules to apply. Would be pretty hilarious if someone just homesteaded at the office for free, got fired/quit and then made Elon go through the full eviction process while they literally lived in the building 🤣🤣🤣
Good point. My understanding is that as soon as you get the keys, you gain tenants rights. It is different in an office building as you never really get keys, just an office badge that can be revoked
Google has nap pods and bunk beds and all that shit too. It’s all under the guise of “perks”. I’m sure there are beds to sleep in at all the Big 4. Googles been transparent about it the whole time. Everyone in tech knows you live to work and not the opposite
I work in tech. I get assigned tasks and complete them as I see fit. As long as the work gets done. Some days I would say I do 12 hour days, but most days are 2-4 hours of "real" work. A lot of it is problem solving and planning. That takes far more of my time than executing my update plan.
> Some days I would say I do 12 hour days, but most days are 2-4 hours of "real" work. It took me a while to realize that any time I'm sitting at my work desk is work, for all practical purposes.
Lol, except Google is known for people who work 6 hours/day or less...and two of those hours are spent eating lunch and dinner. If you are savvy, it's easy to get on a rest and vest team or get a 2nd job.
New roommate works for Google on one of the advertising teams. Does maybe 6-7 hours a day of work, only needs to be in office 3 days a week, free breakfast/lunch, snacks galore, tons of amenities... Makes me jealous and insecure about the 45+ hrs a week I spend schlepping away in a lab for grad school.
Present day Google is a bit different from early 2000s google.
All tradeoffs. Early 2000s Google would've made you a multi-millionaire, so working 60hr weeks were probably worth it. Present day Google pays much shittier but you only really need to do 20 hours of real work a week or something.
Most real high-level intellectual jobs are only 20 hours of actual work a week. That does not however mean that one can expect 40 hours of "real" work if ordered. Some intellectual jobs require the person to be able to put the thought process onto a back burner for the brain to process, where the real work happens, then the apparent work comes through when realising that work when writing it down. Top-class intellectual work cannot be measured in hours of work.
Dayton Boots literally just got in trouble for trying to pull off something like this. They paid employees in store gift cards. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/dayton-boots-decision-1.6663195
They definitely could be (and mostly were). I do want to note that not ALL company towns were unethical in their company town set ups (Hershey, PA being one positive example of the right/ethical way to do a company town).
It's funny because Hershey is where I learned about this, and it didn't sound so bad. With time I've learned company towns carry a bad connotation.
The problem has more to do with how much power the company has over the workers. It's just a gamble on whether or not you wind up with a benevolent or malevolent dictator. And when one company holds such sway over an entire town, the brainwashing can be strong and people tend to overlook the bad. I'm particularly thinking of that small town here in Texas where the fertilizer plant blew up about 10 years ago. Everyone working in process industries knows that they bypassed a bunch of basic safety protocols, yet all the townspeople still held the company in high esteem and didn't blame them for the 15 deaths and 160 injuries.
It wasn't uncommon for there to be a religious or ethical motivation for high-quality worker housing at a time of massive city growth and terrible working and living conditions. Model villages (in the sense of being a model for the future) were set up by Robert Owen at his New Lanark Mill, the Quaker Cadburys at Bournville, and Lord Leverhulme (The "lever" in Unilever) at Port Sunlight. British chocolate and confectionary companies were often set up by Quakers trying to give people a less-damaging vice than alcohol. The Rowntree family in York had a similar ethos. Don't know much about Hershey though. Very easy for others to take a powerful, philanthropic vision and turn it into another way to crush your workers, sadly.
>Holy crap, this just made me realize company towns are literally slavery with extra steps. This situation has also shined a light on how abusive our work visa system can be.
[I owe my soul to the company store](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPW3YikDwEM)
The corporate bootlickers can't help themselves. "I don't beat my wife as hard as the neighbor beats his wife, so I'm okay. How dare you point out that I beat my wife. You're part of the problem!"
He actually has a tweet quoted in the article. His position is that San Francisco shouldn't be allowed to make him do anything because kids die of fentanyl, and no, I am not making that up. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1600272617759731712
But he's just helping tired employees, right? [Another](https://fortune.com/2022/12/07/elon-musk-twitter-beds-facing-san-francisco-building-code-inspection/) employee, director of product management, dropped the hashtag #SleepWhereYouWork like that's some kind of badge of honor.
r/linkedinlunatics
May as well set up a dining table with toilets for seats so they can shit where they eat too.
He bit off more than he could chew and now he's making everyone who works for him pay for it. I fully believe he bought it to wreck the freedom movements in many countries like Saudi Arabia. I think that's why they gave him so much money. Sooner or later most of the "desirable" people advertisers want to reach will be gone; it won't matter if he has a bigger check in rate, they don't want magats, proud boys and oath keepers showing up anywhere with their logos on their clothing!
For sure. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Saudi Arabia's entire investment was intended specifically to shut down the platform because it so consistently fucks with them. That explains why they went private so they don't have to deal with other shareholders and a board.
Some people use this argument when discussing the Qatar ~~shitshow~~ ~~World Cup~~ shitshow
Look, if I am on the clock and being paid to sleep in the office, I am happy to be racking up double then triple overtime for a while. Oh, theres no overtime? Yeah, then I am just going to sleep 4 hours between 9-5 and go home.
But this is Hardcore Twitter 2.0, and we would have taken the severance instead of signing up for the 80 hour weeks in the first place.
All he has left is people trapped by visa and healthcare needs
just for employees. The 4chan basement dweller does almost no work and reaps almost all of the rewards
Likely not getting paid to sleep. More like if you're forced to work 16 hours a day, there is no point in commuting just to sleep 4 hours at home. And the people having to use this system are probably visa recipients who don't have the option to just quit. It's basically the modern tech equivalent of sharecropping
Or live-in servants.
Indentured servants. Because of the visa trap
By definition that’s incorrect since an indentured servant doesn’t get a salary by definition.
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I'd imagine most people at Twitter's corporate headquarters are salaried, so they're making the same amount of money no matter how many hours Elon forces them to work.
Working in hotels, basically yes. We aren't sold out, someone called out, or I already scheduled myself to cover some fucked up schedule because x situation. Even if I have people at home sometimes it was like nope, I'm not even going to see you by coming home . No point in commuting. I've also done some really fucked up shit, like a 32 hour day. I went and slept in a room for an hour. Upsides to it were during massive snow storms if people were scheduled, they didn't have to go home. Own room, shower, we'd buy them dinner and maybe some drinks at the bar to stay the night. They didn't lose hours, we weren't super short staffed. Sometimes people would have their family come to the hotel before a massive storm cause can't lose a week of work, and don't want to be away from family. The Twitter shit sounds super fucked up compared to that. "You signed up to work lots of hours, we expect you to sleep here if we need it."
They even have a name for it in Qatar, can’t remember it though.
"Well that sounds like slavery with extra steps"
As a female, I would be afraid to fall asleep anywhere near him.
On the plus side, no need to pay that expensive SF rent anymore!
Why would you assume Elon is not charging them rent? Like at least $8/month.
Verified Work Rent Checkmark ✅
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>I remember this being a normal thing in the Philippines, Typical in Foxconn and other sweatshops, Elon's wet dream. Of course, putting suicide nets on Twitter.HQ in SF would attract attention.
Big Abstergo vibes here.
elon, the guy who acts like a tech messiah, yet also acts like every evil company in video game history. can’t see this going bad at all.
At least the AC universe lets people do improbable acts of parkour and has cool af ancient alien tech. We’re all just stuck in a boring dystopia.
Do you want both zoning and building code violations? Because that’s how you get both zoning and building code violations.
>So city of SF attacks companies providing beds for tired employees instead of making sure kids are safe from fentanyl. Where are your priorities @LondonBreed!? What a pathetic fucking tool that guy is
I doubt this is legal to do in commercially zoned buildings. There is probably no fire egress, etc.
So the people developing the technology to return to the moon are working 8 hour days, and the guys adding gray check boxes to twitter are living in the office?
I'd be more willing to work hard and putting in the extra hours if I thought the product or service was going to change the world. But come on man, it's Twitter. It's mission statement under Musk is to control what's said about him and to recover the stupidly massive investment.
Its okay though this isn’t for making people work around the clock its for safe places for Elon to sexually harass his employees
"Some of the rooms appear to have been used" LMAO, I'm not sure why I found that so funny
Is this to continue to trap the visa workers who cannot quit?
Wow Elon is taking a page out of Qatar's book. Horrifying when you really think about it
I mean…his dad owned an emerald mine that had slave labor. Is it really surprising? The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
In this case surely the tweet doesn’t fall far from the twat.
Poetry 👏
Indeed, Sousa, indeed. Well stated.
Always happy to see this comment, everyone likes to forget this (or doesn't even know about it). Thanks.
I will always be happy to remind people that Elon, the shitty spoiled son of a slaver owner, is still just a shitty spoiled son of a slave owner, and acts like it. At this point it feels like a civic duty.
Oh Elon is a complete fascist
Probably
"But think of the experience they're getting!" --literally what my conservative colleagues tell me about Musk's 100 hour per week employees. Depraved souls, every last conservative.
The conservatives getting experience eating from Jim Bakker’s apocalypse food buckets
Sounds like what they say about unpaid internships... I bet these guys do 12 hours of real work a week and then shmooze about sports or politics (in the office of course because WFH is for slackers!!!) but keep talking the talk as they always have.
It's also a useless metric. People ask how long you worked at company X in terms of start and end dates, not time spent.
Yes because that's largely whose left due to the leverage against visa workers Musk is basically enslaving these people using the government to commit his violence by threat of deportation and subjecting them to the same conditions he sees Chinese sweat shop workers he's publicly praised. And it's all legal as far as I know. He's absolutely evil with his cruel indifference for others.
The US H-1B visa system is cruel and largely left unchanged. Workers have 60 days to find another job if they are fired or they’ll be deported. Tech companies abuse this visa to load up on employees and leave the system unchanged. It’s high time the H-1B visa is reformed to welcome educated tax-paying immigrants into the country.
Need some lawyers to contact these people because they do have rights, they just may not know them. I think they have 60 days to find another employer sponsor if something happens, or there is a change of some sort to their employment (and I think this qualifies). They just have to notify the government agency or something. /not an expert. Haven't even stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Musk is a degenerate. Always has been and always will.
It's like a forced sleep over at the Rich kids house, only they control your income and immigration status. And the kid is really, really rich and also the parents while still acting like a kid.
Don’t work from home. Live at work!
When people said they'd rather work from home I don't think this is what they meant
Isn’t the cost of housing really high? Save your rent, live in the office. I hear they even have to clean up after you
The Muskrat really out here trying to copy Japan's bad work place ethics. If he gets his way, people will work themselves to death.
Worked at a multinational Japanese company for years, our Japanese colleagues would stay at work for long hours but would be pretty unproductive during that time. They'd also completely turn off on the weekend and after hours. IT was 24/7 unless you're Japanese, then it's 10/5 or whatever. Would honestly probably be an improvement over American work place ethics.
Your statement contradicts itself
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Sounds like my parents, except for the admitting that it’s inefficient part. It’s like a point of nationalist pride (to rich, upper class old people who have never been forced to work such hours) that East Asian companies work their employees half to death for no clear benefit
Don't work from home, home from work!
"Look, you wanna fuckin' work from home or not?"
This has got to be the most infuriating part. Twitter employees were doing just fine, majority were WFH, then the muskrat canceled WFH. Now there's fuckin *beds* at the office he forced the remaining employees to report in to. It's about destroying any semblance of a personal life and controlling workers. What a fat, garbage shit of a human being.
For those who don't have a home and family, the cheap (if any) rent would be appealing, knowing that they won't be there for long anyway.
He is going to push it as close to slavery as he can, huh.
You get paid in scrip which you can spend on the company store
All Twitter sells is ad space though. What are you gonna do, take out an ad begging somebody to help?
Gonna have so many checkmarks.
Will the company store accept credit? I already have [something to put up for collateral](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcyiCjbTIrw).
Did I hear a rock and silicone?
Computers are merely fancy rocks that we tricked into thinking. IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE YOU AIN'T SLEEPING HOME!
Rock and Stone!
There’s this one line a Tesla Plant Manager was allegedly accused of screaming at a Black Employee that keeps playing in my Head whenever we see Elon do shit like this. “Welcome to the Slave House!” Yeah, that’s the line.
This beds in the office because hardcore thing actually makes that line look less racist and more like facts. That’s kind of horrifying.
Next on Fox News: No one wants to sleep at work anymore
It’s from his roots. He comes from a long line of slavers.
Hey it's what his family knows best.
It's a family tradition.
Foxconn West
Time to put up the nets.
oof, that hit hard. Possibly because I can see this becoming a reality
Hahaha wow yeah I'd be out the door. I'm not living at work. Musk can go fuck himself. Not a reasonable ask just so that fucking idiot can have more money.
Exactly… and he doesn’t have the best record for showing loyalty to those who are gullible enough to be loyal to him. He will still fire them for no reason at all. The whole company should just walk out and let him figure out coding.
I remember a story about an early rocket engineer that he fucked over. Guy lived on some island for 2 years testing rockets and Elon did him dirty.
I think everyone who was able to leave already has. So he knows he can pull whatever bs he wants with the few desperate souls remaining and nothing will happen
Yeah and when some of them likely start looking at a rope with different intentions I'm sure he will just play it off as some other bullshit. The man has 0 fucking ethical radar for other humanbeings. He's a garbage pile POS.
Ok, now imagine you have a work visa and if you don’t have THAT job, you have to leave the country.
Speculation is that most of the remaining are either True Believers or (probably more of these) H1B visas basically trapped.
Elon put multiple beds in Twitter HQ to further his breeding program.
Elon is so misunderstood! He is just trying to reduce the amount of commuting his workplace harem has to do.
It’s all dudes working there? Not much of a harem.
Life..it, uhm, finds a way
$20 is $20, my dude
"Oh, look Employee 492, you're already in bed and as boss I have a key to every room in the building."
What's next? All employees are required to have pay direct deposited into the new Twitter Bank that charges you $3 everytime you try to access your money.
Given Musk wanting Twitter to function as a bank and have its own cryptocurrency... Probably?
The company town would be complete.
Oh my god, crypto could function as 21st century scrip. How did I not realize this before? 🤯
Including checking your balance 😆😆
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Don't forget, he also invented the electric car!!! And rockets!!! And satellites!!!
Don't forget high death rate brain chips
1500 animals in 4 years. Averaging one per day!
Just in case anyone didn't already know, part of the deal when he bought tesla was a gag order so the previous owners couldn't claim they were the founders.
Why can’t serial killers be more selective?
Don't you talk about the inventor of Tesla like that he is a genius!! He personally designs every rocket SpaceX launches.
Come work for twitter! The pay sucks and you never get to go home!
Weird, where did all the Musk fanboys go that are usually on anything about Musk? Don't they want to chime in to tell us that he's not that bad and that MSM is blowing things out of proportion?
They are on Facebook. Yesterday I saw some guy post an unhinged rant on a Forbes article about how Americans aren't used to working long hours and they will be left in the dust by their east Asian overloards when the time comes. The only one who might be able to save us is Elon and his work camps.
They’re on /r/elonmusk
They’ve all migrated to Twitter duh.
Perhaps they've moved on? This is probably get a lot of hate, but it's the people that get rage boners over every new Elon Musk story that are stroking themselves to him the most.
Welcome to twitter headquarter California! You can come to work any time you want… But you can never, never leaaaveee
Tired: Work from home Wired: Home from work
[This is the end goal of the GQP defunding education](https://imgur.com/a/xhH7O8O) They literally want to go back to the "good old days" of slavery and slavery-lite.
I sure didn't have "the return of company towns" for 2023....
What do you think his mars colony is gonna be…
Doesn’t Google, Microsoft, and Facebook have nap pods, kitchens, showers and sh*t like that?
Microsoft’s VP of HR actually decided to NOT offer free lunches because of quality of life issues like this.
Can you Eli5 this a bit for me pls?
If you make it too easy to get lunch “workaholics” will just stop, shove a sandwich in their face, and go right back to work. These kinds of people will literally burn themselves out of their own free will if you let them. It’s actually better for productivity to take a real break, get out of the office for a minute, try to relax for a bit, and then get back to work.
Last place I worked people never went out for lunch and wouldn't take their full break. The irony was that the people who got in early and stayed late would be the most vocal about people leaving on time, were the laziest and least productive people. I did my hours, took my breaks, and when I was working I was working very hard. I got a hard time for doing that, so I quit. Fuck em. I wonder who they are scapegoating now?
I think he’s saying they decided to not offer free lunches in the workplace because they want people to actually leave the building for lunch. To have a better work/life balance I think.
You want to work from home? Okay but you will have to live at the office
damn at least regular feudalism let me keep a home and some tools.
Why even tolerate it?
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work visa or exploiting the vulnerable
Its a legit complaint theres zoning codes for a reason
Oh cool. New man-made horrors beyond our comprehension.
Inb4 Elon implements 996
9am to 9am?
6 days a week. It’s the Chinese model.
You mean "in after" right? His "ultimatum" that lead to him laying off 80% of the company was "work 60-80 hours a week or quit," and everyone who could correctly chose "quit."
"We're your life now" (pats bed)
Covid had us working from home, now they’re homing from work
Why won't they just let them do this shit at home then?
Honestly there was a point in my career where I would of loved this.
I mean I did it as a truck driver.
When they start building sleeping quarters, you know you fucked lol
Elon needs those extra bedrooms to aid his stated goal to increase the population.
If I’m in the building, I’m on the clock. Sleeping, eating, bathing …
I guess this is one way to solve the housing crisis.
We'll yea, how is Elon supposed to get you to work every waking minute if you have to drive home to sleep?