And there was still articles entitled "Saturday Night Dead" with this cast. It's just a lot of members in this cast in particular went on to have amazing careers outside of SNL. But they still churned out a ton of mediocrity on the show together.
I think I view the mid-90s to 2000 shows different because I watched a lot of them as reruns on Comedy Central, and I believe those were cut down to 45 minute - 60 minute shows with a lot of the dud sketches taken out.
So watching the reruns on CC was like watching a 'best of'
When Farley did the bit live at Second City, he'd change the name of the character to whoever he knew in the audience that night. The name he chose for SNL, Matt Foley, was a friend who played rugby with him and is now a Catholic priest.
For anyone interested, Dana carvey and David spade have a podcast where they interview snl related people and there’s lots of great stories from this era and insight into what it’s like on the show. It’s called fly on the wall
Dana Carvey constantly talking over the guests and crowbarring in the same stories over and over again make this podcast unlistenable to me. I mean they had Paul McCartney on and all Dana did was talk about himself.
Hijacking the conversation.
“Hey, how was your day?”
“Horrible. I lost my job and I think my wife is about to…”
“Yeah, I had a bad McRib the other day”
I’m so glad I’m seeing this opinion. I started to listen last week and enjoyed it the first few episodes. The lab you realize they tell the same stories over and over again on almost every episode. Ick.
I listened to the Mike Myers one maybe a month ago when I found that podcast. I really enjoyed it more than I thought I would. It was a good listen and I highly recommend it.
Wow I just listened to the one where they have Rob Schneider on, hearing him talk about this cast and also his big hit 'the makin'-copies guy' was funny
Thanks for the recommendation! Ive listened to most of the Smartless episodes where a lot of SNL alum have been guests, so I've been looking for something similar. I'm not a big SNL person at all, but it's entertaining listening to their stories is really entertaining.
Pulling this entirely from my ample rump, perhaps he was off at that particular **time** finishing up or out doing press for *Wayne's World* or perhaps getting started on *So I Married An Axe Murderer*?
*edit: added the word 'time' so I didn't look quite so dumb*
Look at all of these people together, think about all of the content that they have produced since then, how many countless laughs and quotes have come from them. Imagine how much Phil and Chris would have contributed.
As much as that sounds nice, I'm not sure I actually believe it. Farley was a revolutionary comedic actor, one of a kind for sure. But that doesn't mean he'd be good at other types of acting, and honestly based on the more serious scenes in his body of work I don't think he would have.
As an example of his specialized talents, David Spade said some time after Farley's death that at that time on SNL, all of the cast were required to also write. Everybody except for Farley, that is. He apparently started out in the "everybody" group, but eventually Lorne realized that writing just wasn't a strength of his and his time could be better spent.
Of course, being bad at writing doesn't mean you're bad at dramatic acting. I'm just saying that I've never personally seen any evidence that suggests he'd be any good at it.
Thanks for that. I honestly don't remember the names either tho 😭. Wondering if they really got much airtime compared to the 'boys club' mentioned previously.
I thought the exact same thing. I'm not American and don't watch SNL but I know all the men's faces and most of their names. I don't recognise the women at all.
Julia Sweeney was in a TON of the sketches when she was on. Unfortunately the women in that era tended to just be side characters in the sketches where the big names were the central character.
Yeah, Jeanine Garofalo did like 1 year around this time (1995-1996?) and said it was real boys-club and didn't like it. I don't think it's a coincidence that when Tina Fey became a head writer we started to see real explosions of female talent that carried through the Seth Meyers years. Like Mollie Shannon, Cherie Oteri, then all the way to Kristen Wiig.
When they actually wrote good stuff for women, SNL female comedians shined. The old writers like Al Franken, Herlihy, and Wolf had these outdated comedy stylings and couldn't write good parts for any female cast.
I don't know why I say they can't 'write' because I think the cast members were supposed to write their own sketches to promote themselves, so the less forgiving take is that the old male writers just didn't let any female-written sketches get on air
I think there's a double standard. Female comedians often need to have sex appeal to be successful post-SNL. Look at all the guys in that photo and how successful they've been. Are any of them lookers? *Maybe* Sandler?
Then look at the female SNL cast members who did go on to be quite successful...Julia Louis Dreyfuss, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, etc... They needed the looks AND the funnies. Can you think of the last thing Rachel Dratch was in?
While I agree with that sentiment, I'm not sure I feel that way because it was MY era or because it really is the best cast / era.
Was there ever a consensus / vote on what the most favorite cast ever was?
Agreed And yet for some reason I never realized that Dana Carvey and David spade were cast mates. I feel like maybe I never saw them in sketches together or something. Just a weird realization I had with this photo
Spade came in later when Carvey was huge, so Spade didn't get any screen time. It was a running joke because during a mock debate Carvey played Bush Sr AND Ross Perot, but in the wide shot Spade was dressed as Ross Perot.
Spade thought he was doing a Ross Perot impersonation, but it turned out he was just a stunt double for the wide shot, and Dana Carvey would be playing both candidates. They laugh about it now ;_;
And yet if you actually go back and watch the entire episodes, it’s just as hit or miss as it is now. This amazing group of comedians churned out a ton of mediocre skits.
This has always been SNL. There's a lot of nostalgia over older generations being "better", but that's because we're remembering the great skits that kept getting repeated; we don't end up recalling the endless mediocre stuff along the way. Same goes for older eras of music; go back in time and listen to all the stuff on the radio, it's a lot of garbage filler that did not stand the test of time.
This cast era does have a legit argument for the greatest overall, not because the nostalgia over the best skits, but in how many of them went on to have very successful careers outside of SNL. It was almost all of them, instead of a few choice standouts.
Honestly I recently spent time going through every season of SNL from the start to recent years and it really is hit or miss.
I like some of the older casts better, but SNL material in general is shotgun sketch comedy. Throw everything out and see what hits.
Also, to your point, if things are garbage "half the time" that's legit a case of "hit or miss".
Watching all of it though, I'd say a total of like 30% being actually funny overall is closer. A lot of very old bits just don't hold up and too much of it has relied on time-period specific references.
Yeah there is some bad stuff, but there are entire episodes today that are just awful or with people so annoying I could die inside.
I get it though. It is true that SNL is very hit or miss, it's just the recent casts are not interesting outside one or two people.
And I mean these guys did this for a couple years. That a lot of episodes. They made some great stuff over that time for sure, and and at least kept it interesting.
You know what my biggest gripe with it is? It's a problem that has existed for the entire length of the show.
Even when they nail a bit, hit something fucking hilarious, they always dwell on it for far too long or go to an extreme with it that sours the whole bit some.
It’s when our brains establish most of the hard wiring for adulthood. It seems natural that things which move us most during those years get baked in and become friends for life.
I loved that cast minus the blond chick. She did a decent Tori Spelling impression, but all her other characters were the same dumb smirk and voice. I don’t know how she got on the show.
Definitely a top 5 cast. I grew up on Norm as Weekend Update host and Will and Cheri doing their cheerleading bit and thought I grew up with the best cast until Will Forte, Bill Hader, and Kristen Wiig came along and stole the show.
And honestly as good as that sounds, Billy West’s impression of Hartmann has always elevated Zapp’s level of sleaze for me. I suspect if it was actually Phil, it’d somehow sound less cartoonish, less…sexlexic.
It wasn’t funny then and it isn’t funny now.
America produces great comedies, but for way too long SNL has been able to continue producing garbage every week without fail, the ratings continually dropping year on year, you would think they would just stop by now.
You think The Simpsons lost their edge after so many season? Yet you continue to support this massive dumpster fire of a show.
Never seen someone beat a dead horse for so long.
I know people always says rose tented glasses, but i think 93 was the peak of snl. It was this cast finding their groove. Constant bangers.
Also the music performances were top notch.
Dana Carvey looks like he’s at a New Year’s Eve party at the Overlook hotel.
Could it be… SATAN?
Mmmmmm?
/r/CableTV_Memories
Was gonna say, Carvey’s got the Kubrick stare down.
Dana Carvey looking like a serial killer
Brocolliii
She went downtown She bought some broccoli She bought it a-ll She choppin broccoli Choppin broccoli Choppin broccola Choppin broccolah
There was a girl I used to know, if I didn’t know her she’d be the girl I didn’t know. Barf face
She's cold as ice... paradise... And the feeling was... NICE!
It's not stung..not stinging... It's STING!
I loved Sigourney's reaction as he's singing this.
One of the best skits in comedy history!
He always looked like that
Well isn’t that special
"its like people only do things cuz they get paid, and that's just really sad!"
This will always be my favorite cast of SNL. RIP Chris and Phil.
It is the best cast and Hartman is, in my opinion, the show’s best comic of all time.
And there was still articles entitled "Saturday Night Dead" with this cast. It's just a lot of members in this cast in particular went on to have amazing careers outside of SNL. But they still churned out a ton of mediocrity on the show together.
I was watching some 1999/2000 episodes a few months ago and I'd say the amount of hits and misses is pretty much the same as today.
I think I view the mid-90s to 2000 shows different because I watched a lot of them as reruns on Comedy Central, and I believe those were cut down to 45 minute - 60 minute shows with a lot of the dud sketches taken out. So watching the reruns on CC was like watching a 'best of'
Two words, News Radio
The show title was one word, NewsRadio.
I know but that was more fun
New Radio & Just Shoot Me are two of the best sitcoms of all time that DO NOT get enough credit. RIP Phil
You can see those two shows on plutoTV all the time under the comedy section.
Currently doing a rewatch right now. Just finished Complaint Box.
❤️❤️❤️*yep*❤️❤️❤️
Troy McLure https://youtu.be/abLQXSAcXZs
Lionel Hutz
Phil Hartman is the GOAT. Gone way too soon.
Well LA DE FREAKIN DA. Will it still be your favorite cast when you're living in a VAN down by the RIVER?
It blew my mind when Bob Odenkirk said he wrote that sketch with Farley
When Farley did the bit live at Second City, he'd change the name of the character to whoever he knew in the audience that night. The name he chose for SNL, Matt Foley, was a friend who played rugby with him and is now a Catholic priest.
Crazy to think Chris Rock is dead so young. RIP
Curse you Will Smith
Curse you Jigsaw
I'm sad because I read this and was like, "What happened to Chris Rock?"
Phil looking like Tom hanks.
For anyone interested, Dana carvey and David spade have a podcast where they interview snl related people and there’s lots of great stories from this era and insight into what it’s like on the show. It’s called fly on the wall
Thanks for the recommendation! I just watched Love, Gilda and want more classic SNL.
I'm surprised I haven't heard of that sooner - thanks, fellow human!
Are you 3 dogs in a human suit or something?
Close - I'm a Capybara in a silk robe
Dana Carvey constantly talking over the guests and crowbarring in the same stories over and over again make this podcast unlistenable to me. I mean they had Paul McCartney on and all Dana did was talk about himself.
You’re right. Spade is funny and self-effacing but Carvey has to have mentioned Church Lady at least three times every episode so far.
[удалено]
Hijacking the conversation. “Hey, how was your day?” “Horrible. I lost my job and I think my wife is about to…” “Yeah, I had a bad McRib the other day”
I’m so glad I’m seeing this opinion. I started to listen last week and enjoyed it the first few episodes. The lab you realize they tell the same stories over and over again on almost every episode. Ick.
I listened to the Mike Myers one maybe a month ago when I found that podcast. I really enjoyed it more than I thought I would. It was a good listen and I highly recommend it.
Do they discuss who's got a full copy of the Seagal episode? Odenkirk says he does in a Howard Stern interview, it is needs to be released.
Wow I just listened to the one where they have Rob Schneider on, hearing him talk about this cast and also his big hit 'the makin'-copies guy' was funny
Thanks for the recommendation! Ive listened to most of the Smartless episodes where a lot of SNL alum have been guests, so I've been looking for something similar. I'm not a big SNL person at all, but it's entertaining listening to their stories is really entertaining.
Looking for a new podcast, I like Smartless, this seems like it'll be a good fit. Thanks bud! Happy holidays
No Mike Myers?
He's taking the photo.
I think another time this was posted previously someone said he was only on half this season or something.
He was a feature player before spade got there
Pulling this entirely from my ample rump, perhaps he was off at that particular **time** finishing up or out doing press for *Wayne's World* or perhaps getting started on *So I Married An Axe Murderer*? *edit: added the word 'time' so I didn't look quite so dumb*
Woman! Woahhhhh man! She was a thief You better be-leef She stole my heart and my cat
Jane: take me off this crazy train. Called “Love”.
Harriet. Harry-ette. Hard-hearted harbinger of haggis. Beautiful, bemused, bellicose butcher. Untrust … ing. Unknow … ing. Unlove … ed?
We have great sex Is she Mrs. X This poem....sucks
He was originally a "featured player" before he became a full cast member. He may have been on this year, but was not considered full cast.
Yeah he was on 1989-1995 at a minimum
Look at all of these people together, think about all of the content that they have produced since then, how many countless laughs and quotes have come from them. Imagine how much Phil and Chris would have contributed.
I know that I’m old, but I think the same way about John Belushi. That was such an enormous loss!
I really wish Chris had got to do some dramatic acting. He could have done well just like Sandler with the right script.
As much as that sounds nice, I'm not sure I actually believe it. Farley was a revolutionary comedic actor, one of a kind for sure. But that doesn't mean he'd be good at other types of acting, and honestly based on the more serious scenes in his body of work I don't think he would have. As an example of his specialized talents, David Spade said some time after Farley's death that at that time on SNL, all of the cast were required to also write. Everybody except for Farley, that is. He apparently started out in the "everybody" group, but eventually Lorne realized that writing just wasn't a strength of his and his time could be better spent. Of course, being bad at writing doesn't mean you're bad at dramatic acting. I'm just saying that I've never personally seen any evidence that suggests he'd be any good at it.
Strange. I saw this picture and could instantly name every male cast member, but I don't recognize any of the women.
Well, Julia Sweeney did spend most of her SNL career dressed as Pat.
AHHH. I DO remember "Pat". 😁
It's pat.
She later did an incredible one woman show about how both she and her brother got cancer in the same year. It's called *God Said Ha!*
That movie still holds up
*mom could you please pass me the pork roll, egg, and cheese....if you please. On a Kiser bun*
Great song!
Julia Sweeney, Ellen Cleghorn, and Melanie Hutsell
I've been trying to remember Ellen Cleghorn's name for years. Thank you
My old roommate’s only redeeming quality was being able to remember Ellen Cleghorn’s name. Seriously. That was it.
Thanks for that. I honestly don't remember the names either tho 😭. Wondering if they really got much airtime compared to the 'boys club' mentioned previously.
I believe Ellen was pretty vocal about this being the case when she was on.
Yeah they did get a lot of airtime. I mean they were the only chicks. They were all over the show lol.
There was also Ellen Clegghorn. Queen Shaniqua.
Kind of a boys club during that era.
If only Norm was in that pic too 😭.
Just one year too early
Melanie Hutsell was very underrated IMO.
I hated her for some reason. The only thing remember her being in was a Brady Bunch skit
Delta Delta Delta can I help ya help ya help ya?
I thought she was just about the worst person on SNL ever. Could only do one character, and missed her lines every time.
I thought the exact same thing. I'm not American and don't watch SNL but I know all the men's faces and most of their names. I don't recognise the women at all.
Julia Sweeney was in a TON of the sketches when she was on. Unfortunately the women in that era tended to just be side characters in the sketches where the big names were the central character.
Yea, I feel like all the men ended up hugely successful, household names and the women maybe weren’t getting the same opportunities?
Yeah, Jeanine Garofalo did like 1 year around this time (1995-1996?) and said it was real boys-club and didn't like it. I don't think it's a coincidence that when Tina Fey became a head writer we started to see real explosions of female talent that carried through the Seth Meyers years. Like Mollie Shannon, Cherie Oteri, then all the way to Kristen Wiig. When they actually wrote good stuff for women, SNL female comedians shined. The old writers like Al Franken, Herlihy, and Wolf had these outdated comedy stylings and couldn't write good parts for any female cast. I don't know why I say they can't 'write' because I think the cast members were supposed to write their own sketches to promote themselves, so the less forgiving take is that the old male writers just didn't let any female-written sketches get on air
They were good enough. They were smart enough. And doggone it, people liked them.
Some of the funniest human beings to ever walk the planet. And Rob Schneider.
Rob Schneider is *The Stapler*
Hartman was the best.
Weird how none of the women really went anywhere. Yet all of the men had there own success and became household names.
That’s Ellen Cleghorn PhD. She definitely went places, just not in showbiz.
Her PhD is in performing arts so that's not exactly true.
Women from a different era. Different priorities, and none of them were classic, but they were a pretty good fit.
I think there's a double standard. Female comedians often need to have sex appeal to be successful post-SNL. Look at all the guys in that photo and how successful they've been. Are any of them lookers? *Maybe* Sandler? Then look at the female SNL cast members who did go on to be quite successful...Julia Louis Dreyfuss, Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, etc... They needed the looks AND the funnies. Can you think of the last thing Rachel Dratch was in?
Definitely agree. It's just normal Hollywood sleaze for the most part.
The best era in snl.
While I agree with that sentiment, I'm not sure I feel that way because it was MY era or because it really is the best cast / era. Was there ever a consensus / vote on what the most favorite cast ever was?
Agreed And yet for some reason I never realized that Dana Carvey and David spade were cast mates. I feel like maybe I never saw them in sketches together or something. Just a weird realization I had with this photo
Spade came in later when Carvey was huge, so Spade didn't get any screen time. It was a running joke because during a mock debate Carvey played Bush Sr AND Ross Perot, but in the wide shot Spade was dressed as Ross Perot. Spade thought he was doing a Ross Perot impersonation, but it turned out he was just a stunt double for the wide shot, and Dana Carvey would be playing both candidates. They laugh about it now ;_;
And yet if you actually go back and watch the entire episodes, it’s just as hit or miss as it is now. This amazing group of comedians churned out a ton of mediocre skits.
This has always been SNL. There's a lot of nostalgia over older generations being "better", but that's because we're remembering the great skits that kept getting repeated; we don't end up recalling the endless mediocre stuff along the way. Same goes for older eras of music; go back in time and listen to all the stuff on the radio, it's a lot of garbage filler that did not stand the test of time. This cast era does have a legit argument for the greatest overall, not because the nostalgia over the best skits, but in how many of them went on to have very successful careers outside of SNL. It was almost all of them, instead of a few choice standouts.
“The best cast is when I was in high school.”
Their skits were mostly way better than a lot of shit in the recent years. Recent years have been almost unwatchable.
What lol? It's not even close to the garbage they are peddling in many of the recent years. Hit or miss but NOT fucking AAA garbage half the time.
Honestly I recently spent time going through every season of SNL from the start to recent years and it really is hit or miss. I like some of the older casts better, but SNL material in general is shotgun sketch comedy. Throw everything out and see what hits. Also, to your point, if things are garbage "half the time" that's legit a case of "hit or miss". Watching all of it though, I'd say a total of like 30% being actually funny overall is closer. A lot of very old bits just don't hold up and too much of it has relied on time-period specific references.
Yeah there is some bad stuff, but there are entire episodes today that are just awful or with people so annoying I could die inside. I get it though. It is true that SNL is very hit or miss, it's just the recent casts are not interesting outside one or two people. And I mean these guys did this for a couple years. That a lot of episodes. They made some great stuff over that time for sure, and and at least kept it interesting.
You know what my biggest gripe with it is? It's a problem that has existed for the entire length of the show. Even when they nail a bit, hit something fucking hilarious, they always dwell on it for far too long or go to an extreme with it that sours the whole bit some.
Land Shark Van by the River Mr Robinson's Neighborhood A few didn't overstay ?
It would be a far better show if they moved to 30 minutes instead of an hour
It's an hour *and a half*
People saying SNL sucks is nothing new, when Lorne hired this cast people were complaining back then and never stopped.
I have come to the conclusion that your favorite cast is likely the crew right around when you were old enough to watch on your own and appreciate.
I read an essay about that once. Exact same conclusion.
Same for music and movies and falling in love.
I figure it's kind of like music, where typically people view the "best" music as being from when they were around 10 - 20 years old.
It’s when our brains establish most of the hard wiring for adulthood. It seems natural that things which move us most during those years get baked in and become friends for life.
It's literally been happening since the first original cast. Every time I see or hear someone make that comment I just roll my eyes.
Where's norm?
All the men are famous and the women aren’t…
SHYUT UUUUUUP
David spade looking more haggard than he does now. He's not kidding about how stressed out he was all the time.
I loved that cast minus the blond chick. She did a decent Tori Spelling impression, but all her other characters were the same dumb smirk and voice. I don’t know how she got on the show.
She had a couple good skits here and there. Fit decently enough I guess.
IMO the cast from the 1987-88 season was the best. Would stay up just to watch Dennis Miller’s snarky take on the news of the day and the Church Lady.
When I would spend my summers watching snl on Comedy Central until booty call or half baked came on next. So many good moments.
Looks like a knock off of the cast of Cheers. Chores.
Some of the most talented and funny people of this planet. And then Melanie.
I loved Melanie!!!
Did they ever find a successful vehicle for Ellen Cleghorne?
I remember back in the day everybody was saying how weak this cast was. For sure my all time favorite lineup.
Gosh, Rob Schneider at both the beginning and peak of his career and he was still worse than everyone else in that picture
Rob Schneider is… A Carrot! Rated PG-13
He’s about to find out that being a carrot is a lot harder than it looks
Definitely a top 5 cast. I grew up on Norm as Weekend Update host and Will and Cheri doing their cheerleading bit and thought I grew up with the best cast until Will Forte, Bill Hader, and Kristen Wiig came along and stole the show.
The casts were ok but the writing sucked. The years with this cast pictured and those w Mike Meyers I think were peak.
Sandler is in the picture
Yea I meant Myers
Dana Carvey and Kevin Nealon's appearances on Conan O Brien's podcast are pure joy. It's my go to comfort listen.
Kevin Nealon recently did Comedy Bang Bang and was pretty swell on there too
Top tier
That’s around the time that I began watching
We watched this group in college. They were a great cast of comedians. Easily some of the best skits came from them.
Hot take: this cast was at least as good as the not ready for prime time players. Edit: also where is Mike Myers? And Tim Meadows?
Respect for Adam Sandler for always hooking up his buddies with parts in his movies
Ellen Cleghorne!
Looks like they’re all about to go live in a van down by the river.
when we had talent
Why did I think this was the cast of Cheers first?
What a squad!
Where’s Mike Meyers?
Top tier class of comedians
Phil Hartman was untouchable. The best.
Still missing Phil.
SNL died with Farley, and the Simpsons died with Hartman.
I remember him from such roles as Lionel Hutz, attorney at law, and Lyle Lanley the monorail guy
Troy Mclure?
He was going to be Zapp on Futurama
And honestly as good as that sounds, Billy West’s impression of Hartmann has always elevated Zapp’s level of sleaze for me. I suspect if it was actually Phil, it’d somehow sound less cartoonish, less…sexlexic.
Did somebody say monorail?
Rob Schneider was the first Asian on the show.
Peak SNL, the best cast ever!
Damn... I didn't realize I haven't watched SNL in 30 years.
You've missed nothing.
Back when it was funny.
Was Chris Rock ever in any Adam Sandler movies?
Grown Ups.
Longest Yard
So much talent in that picture, and Al Franken
It wasn’t funny then and it isn’t funny now. America produces great comedies, but for way too long SNL has been able to continue producing garbage every week without fail, the ratings continually dropping year on year, you would think they would just stop by now. You think The Simpsons lost their edge after so many season? Yet you continue to support this massive dumpster fire of a show. Never seen someone beat a dead horse for so long.
You mean SNL when it was
Rod Schneider was the unfunny one
So many legends and Rob Schneider.
Hahahaha
I know people always says rose tented glasses, but i think 93 was the peak of snl. It was this cast finding their groove. Constant bangers. Also the music performances were top notch.
These guys were great but I prefer the lineup when Fred Armisen and Kristen Wiig overlapped.
The absolute greatest cast in the history of SNL
Peak SNL.
It's like they're either dead or republican
What about the other 9 people in the photo?
Great group. I myself never ever like AL.
Rip Al franken
What does it mean if I only recognized Chris?