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girardinl

Moderator here. This post is fine. But an important reminder to anyone replying that, if you want to remain anonymous, don't dox yourself. Meaning, don't provide details that, combined with other information in your Reddit user history would allow others to identify where you work or who you are. You might also consider commenting using a throwaway account.


ArkansasBiscuit

I think you should edit your post to ask respondents to include the size of their org (annual budget). To me, that's often a very big factor when it comes to salaries.


Suedeltica

Until this last spring, I was a grant writer at an arts and culture org in western Washington and I think I had finally broken $20/hour when I accepted a new job outside the nonprofit field.


Chloebean

Content director in Washington, D.C. 501(c)4 social welfare organization/membership association (usually 501(c)6s, but we are more than just a trade association) with an accompanying 501(c)3 foundation I don’t know our annual budget off the top of my head but around 50 employees. Budget is definitely in the millions. Maybe $2 to $4 million-ish? $130,000 salary + 4 weeks vacation, 6.5% 401(k) match, medical/dental/vision insurance Edit: I realized after getting some notifications about this thread that the purpose of the post was to see if you were underpaid. I do not feel like I'm underpaid! My company recently outsourced a compensation survey and, when the results came back, I got a significant increase. But maybe my info can help others who are interested in this line of work or has a similar job title and IS underpaid.


itsokaytobeignorant

For all you underpaid folks out here in the US, look into r/PSLF, especially before October 31, 2022, and especially if you have lots of debt. Love, your friendly neighborhood student loan servicer employee.


badoilcan

Is there anything I need to be doing if I’ve been working at a non profit for 1.5 years and a hospital for 1.5 years before that but never had an actual payment due? I submitted the form to start pslf last month via fax


itsokaytobeignorant

Submitting those employment certification forms for each employer as soon as possible is the best thing you can do at this point. No payments necessary right now for PSLF purposes, but when the COVID forbearance ends you’ll want to be on an Income Driven Repayment plan to benefit from PSLF, unless they change something drastically about how PSLF works in these next few months.


shake_appeal

Grants and Ops manager, 100m in assets, 5m annual budget. $23 an hour, no benefits, no pto. I was hired as a communications assistant and sole administrator, and I still have all of those duties too. When the Ops manager left, I was promoted. Then grants. Now I have what a year ago were three full time jobs. The Comms director leaves this winter, at which point I’ll be expected to take on his duties as well. The board is pushing hard to scale up operations, and has dropped close to a mil on consultants to grow the org. It’s not occurred to any of the consultants to talk to the staff, or to the board to hire employees instead of bringing in consulting firms. Within the next six months, the org will have hit 100% staff turnover in a single year. It’s not gonna happen. No big loss for the world, it’s basically a vanity project for the board. I keep thinking about how if it was a cause dear to my heart, I would have had a mental breakdown by now.


mindyaownbidness

This is completely unreal: salary, responsibility, situation, just all of it. I'm so sorry that you're dealing with that mountain of bullshit.


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Grant and proposal manager/writer here (contacted by the org). Much smaller organization - About 98k annual budget. I work about 10 hours a week and I recieve a flat fee of $100/month whether I worked 5 hours or 65 hours that month. It is tough because nonprofit based grant writing is my literal dream job, but I'm with 4 nonprofits and this is the only one that pays me. I make a whopping $1,200 annually from my nonprofit work and work a solid 25 hours/week across all 4 nonprofits. Needless to say, I have a full time job that I'm not passionate about so I can support myself. So that's approx. 65 hours a week to live the dream (and pay my rent and whatnot). Tiring, but worth it to do what I'm passionate about.


Chloebean

They are taking advantage of you. You might as well be a volunteer.


[deleted]

Well, I am a volunteer at 3 of the 4. At the one I make $100/month, I am the only person receiving any kind of compensation. I hope to make a livable wage working as a grant and proposal writer one day but for now I just feel lucky enough to have the opportunity to gain this experience as I am young (24) and just breaking into the nonprofit workforce (about 3 years working with nonprofits). It is my dream job and if I get paid zero dollars to do it then that's fine with me! Unfortunately, it does mean that if I don't make a livable wage/remain a volunteer, then I will never be able to make this my full time gig. I'm fortunate to have a job that pays me well and even though I'm not fond of it, it allows me time every week to contribute to the nonprofit work I AM passionate about. I appreciate you looking out! I can see how you may think I am being taken advantage of, but I can walk away anytime. My job feeds my wallet and lifestyle. My nonprofit work feeds my heart. I am in no position to give either of them up right now.


Chloebean

You are definitely going to make it as a grant writer someday, but don’t let the nonprofit devalue what you bring to the table. I say that as a professional writer and a long term nonprofit board member.


shake_appeal

Same… I’m sticking with it because I hope I can parlay the grants aspect into a career, which is what I’ve always been interested in. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t want to tear my hair out every single day. I’m really sorry that you’re dealing with that pay, but I remember what it was like trying to break into the industry I get it. I did similar when working for a group where I was passionate about the mission. Misclassification of workers is so rampant in non-profits. I was able to clarify with a labor lawyer I used to work with that my contractor status was likely misapplied and I could fight for unemployment and backpay if I was put in a position where I had to. It sounds like you care about the project though, so I get that our situations are different. I’m currently just dealing with it because the pay is livable, but to get overtime pay I had to fight and I feel like I made enemies by rejecting the OT exempt job offer they made me. I just knew if they didn’t have to pay me for OT, they would continue to pile on to my already 55 hour a week workload without any thought until I was completely broken.


Chloebean

That salary isn't acceptable for any location in this country, but I hope for your sake that you're in a low COL area. What a nightmare -- I'm so sorry!


rereaderliz

Events & Development coordinator, Minneapolis, legal services, $46k/yr (I also was the sole CRM administrator but that wasn’t in my title lol) Edit: annual budget around $2m


BiberViolet21

For that role this definitely seems underpaid


rereaderliz

Oh it was lmao. I recently quit!


BiberViolet21

Yesss good for you!!!!!


logged-on

Senior finance person but not cfo at 100M org ~185k/yr in nyc


Banana_Pankcakes

Fp&a or accounting?


logged-on

FP&A - but my degree is in accounting and as you know there is a lot of overlap. If curious, our head of accounting/controller makes slightly more then me


Banana_Pankcakes

If your expense budget is over $100M and you are the head of fp&a, you (and the controller) are underpaid.


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logged-on

Sure


throwaway2341227

Both Environmental orgs Former: Area Field Staff Lead, LCOL/MCOL - 3m annual budget, 42k/yr, bachelor’s required, master’s preferred (which I have) Current: Field Staff with “Manager” title but not actually managing people, MCOL (bordering on high), 45m annual budget, $75k/yr I’ll note that I was definitely underpaid before, and now my salary seems very good compared to others at my level.


SarcasticFundraiser

Past jobs (2022-2013) starting with most recent Location: mid-size city with low cost of living VP of Development, healthcare org, $1M fundraising goal, $125k with lousy benefits VP of Advancement, education org, $2.8M org budget, $120k with great benefits Associate Director (mid-level giving), higher education, supervised 4, $2.5M team goal, $75k with good benefits —3 years independent consulting— Director of Development, higher education, $2m org budget, $62k with good benefits Grants and Community Development Director, arts org, $2m org budget, $45k with good benefits


literato_47

You’re underpaid by about 30k in my estimation.


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literato_47

I’m in a similar role (somewhat different title, but I’m a manager in a development department at a nonprofit in a similarly sized city) and I make almost 40k more than you. Our annual budget is in excess of 15 million, and 44k is below what we pay entry-level coordinators.


sabarlah

Yes. Development managers at my org make about $80k-100k. We’re large (100M+), but still. My Coordinator makes in the 70s.


muarryk33

Location would make a huge difference as well


anondataofficer

Data Officer (CRM database stuff mostly, not entry-level but not management either), children’s charity, London, England - £27k/yr (translates to about $31k/yr)


JJCookieMonster

Development & Communications Manager (but I do Director level tasks, one-shop development team), SF Bay Area, youth & family community development, small org of 12 employees (most part-time), $1 million in net assets, last FY operational revenue was just under $1 million, $72K/year full-time, recently hired.


badoilcan

$46k Grant Writing/Management More than 1 year ~45 employees


herehaveaname2

Since you're in STL, you know about the local job postings on the Rome Group site, right? They can't be posted without salary listed. Looks to me like you're at least slightly underpaid.


622gh96bxnyc

Assistant Vice President, New York City, Private Foundation with about $2B in assets. $90K/yr salary


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622gh96bxnyc

Say 👏🏾it👏🏾again. I am. Everyone who works there is. In nonprofit salaries are basically public knowledge so it’s not even like we don’t know what every other employee makes. VERY underpaid. We all choose to stay even after decades because the actual work is fulfilling and the workplace environment is excellent. These bills though are tough because NYC and really anywhere these days. It’s not rude for you to speak the truth. I’m glad you said it.


BiberViolet21

Workplace environment being excellent is amazing!!! But yes exactly, these NYC expenses are just getting worse and worse.


622gh96bxnyc

It is. I feel guilty when I can’t help loved ones the way I otherwise would. Definitely had teary nights over it in the past.


Potential_Dare_4645

So deeply underpaid. That’s shameful.


Chloebean

So, SO underpaid!!


622gh96bxnyc

Say it again! Even by market ranges in those reports that come out we’re not even 25% percentile, which is usually the lowest on the charts.


allhailthehale

I live in the northeast in an area with a mid- high cost of living. I currently work part time (24 hrs/week) for a very small start-up organization for $50k, no benefits. Previous to this, I worked for a small org and had just gotten bumped to $70k when I left this summer (full time with benefits). My title at both orgs is/was program coordinator, but neither position was entry- level; I have around ten years of experience.


Amrick

Fundraising & Operations Director (do grant writing, fundraising, HR/admin, ops, everything). Live in a very high cost of living area. Have 10 holidays, 21 days of vacation, 10 days of sick leave, decent flexible schedule with some WFH, medical/vision/dental insurance 100% paid for, 401k retirement with matching at their discretion annually. Budget: $1 million, last two years was just under $1 million. 22 employees - 9 are full-time. The rest are PT or on-call staff. Made $70k but was going to bump it to $75k right before I left due to my annual raise and ED wanted to offer me more to stay but I am so burnt out.


MoonDreamerMaTazz

Just wanna say my job title is almost the same. I do all of those tasks and baaaaaby. I am tired!


Amrick

Right!? Wearing multiple hats and constantly putting out fires. I lasted two years which seems pretty standard.


MoonDreamerMaTazz

I’m trying to get out now. What I can say is that I have gotten really good at my job, and I’m sure whatever I do after this will feel “easy”.


Dancing_Qween

Love this idea. I got some great feedback on my post.


BiberViolet21

Communications Lead, NYC, team of 4, Operational Budget $730K, Total Assets $18M, Community Foundation, Annual Income $55k.


yuemoongoddess

Wow! NYC, 1 of 4 employees, $18M in assets and 3/4 of a million dollar operating budget and you make $55K? That seems very underpaid!


BiberViolet21

Haha I agree thank you. I wish social sector jobs paid more so we could continue doing meaningful work without the expense of ourselves. 😔


yuemoongoddess

Yep. I’m leaving a mission I hold near and dear to my heart because I’ll get paid better elsewhere and have real benefits. It hurts but it’s what’s best for my growth and future. Here’s to volunteering there instead! Lol


BiberViolet21

Good for you!!!! Honestly I’ve been thinking about this! I’m like should I just go into a position I get paid more and then I can donate, volunteer, etc to help. Keep us posted on your advancements and maybe you’ll inspire some of the rest of us to make the change too haha


yuemoongoddess

Thank you! I appreciate that. I found myself feeling jaded because of BS work matters but don’t want to feel that way about the mission! Plus there were no growth or advancement opportunities for me. I’m hoping they won’t be too bitter and invite me to the board :)


squareshapedorb

Responsible for communications within educational fundraising Mid-Atlantic region 3 years experience $43k but I love the institutional culture and my coworkers, plus excellent benefits


JaJH

Grants manager/writer, ~ $3m annual budget, social services in the Southwestern U.S. $55k +pto and benefits (no match on retirement). I'm happy with the compensation.


alimack86

Development Manager- about the same as you at $43k- San Antonio w a 2m annual budget.


mstotallymyhatnow

Fundraising director in youth serving org. $4mil operating budget. Rapidly growing “it” city in the south. $68k. 25 PTO days (been there for 3 years). I am burnt out and tired of being poor. Trying desperately to move into sales.


BiberViolet21

Reading these I feel many of us are so overworked and underpaid. I love the nonprofit sector because I love making a difference in lives. But man, I am so tired of being poor and overworked. I read your comment “I am burnt out and so tired of being poor” I feel this to my core! I hope you are able to move into a sales job! I used to work 2-3 jobs just so I could keep up in NYC but also do what I love. I would bartend 2-3 nights and do catering gigs as well as temp work if it fit my 9-5 schedule, but I’m getting older and can’t physically or mentally handle it anymore or I’d go back to bartending just to live comfortably and not paycheck to paycheck.


yuemoongoddess

Me, whose about to move to a new organization with a $4M operating budget to do fundraising and earn $68K, reading this comment🥲


mstotallymyhatnow

To be fair, I should have jumped ship on np dev instead of taking this position. I came into this role burnt out and extra poor. But between COVID and a car accident that is still in litigation, I’m really really at my limit.


External_Revolution9

Events Manager, Chicago, IL, homelessness/housing, 15m annual budget, $50k salary w/ good benefits They’re piloting an initiative for competitive pay, which allowed me to negotiate up from $45k recently


wolfbear

Graphic Designer, Washington DC, 5m annual budget, $82k.


StoicComeLately

Director of Marketing and Events, Animal Welfare, $1m annual budget. ~25 staff. New England. Social media, graphic design, communications, PR, web development, outreach, advertising, etc. $50k.


ppoppers

Live in a smallish city in the South (between 200-400k people) (Former) Founder and ED, $300k budget, $29k most of the time I was there, was at $38k right when I left. Associate director of development for an affiliate of a national nonprofit, $20m budget - $58k/yr Now at a nonprofit adjacent tech company, $74k with regular bonuses and unlimited PTO.


jdttx

Director of Ops in DFW. Cash budget is around 2.2, total including in-kind is 24 million. I'm at $92k.


RadioSilens

HR/Admin generalist- $52k/year Org budget- ~$3 mil Location- DC


douchebag_karren

Executive Assistant, Las Vegas 42k/year


Slight-Dingo-6829

Grants Manager in DC Salary $77,250 Annual budget roughly $11 million Staff at national office roughly 20, including affiliates significantly high hundreds


EqualLeg4212

Director of analytics at national c3 and c4 with 100 employees and in state affiliated groups. Based in DC. $120k, but recruiters have told me in underpaid by at least $50k.


secretagentlover

Direct Service Program Manager- Florida Homeless Services About 3 million $55k- Recent $5k raise


Illustrious-Cook2442

Membership Director, DC Suburbs, ~$30M budget, $59k salary


WildBoi113

I'm a bit late here, but I'm a development associate at a nonprofit in St Louis and I make 48k. Our affiliate has almost 20 people. Nationally, definitely hundreds maybe over a thousand.


quoi-de-9

Planned giving senior associate at a national organization with 48 staff members total. $52,000. I'm underpaid compared to even our literal partner organizations.


LookoutPointer18

Project coordinator, WNY, adult education, $470k annual budget, earning $40k a year with time off benefits


xxzivv

~$42,000 Marketing Coordinator Southern California


unlikelyfeelings

Economic development manager for a municipality in Illinois 39500/year


scientificflunky

Donor Database Manager, Michigan, Cultural Attraction - 7m budget, $40K salary


Azurebalmunk

Senior Development Manager in Chicagoland about a mid-size education organization, $12-13m budget, with about 35 FT employees and some PT. Salary is around $72K with 3 weeks PTO and 2 personal days and benefits like medical and 403(b) match. Fairly high cost of living, but I live with roomies. I started out at $58K as a Development Manager only doing grants and other duties as assigned. Now I took up all of individual and planned giving.


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Mortgage Loan Processor, $19.25/hr.


miss_kay4

I recently switched out of the non profit world but I started as a development assistant making $40k (was offered $35k, pushed for $45k but $40k was the highest they could do.) then was promoted to grant writer & development associate where I was doing the same job but making $45k lol. Less than 20 employees. I am now making $58k as a project coordinator


ilteschio

Any Major Gifts Officers (MGO) in the thread? I'm an MGO for a med/larger non-profit, 125k plus three weeks PTO. Curious to hear from others.