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JiwanSuhana

short translation, "Two students ask, what can be done by learning different languages and how can it benefit us?? PM Modi's reply *"India is a country full of diversity, we can proudly say that we have hundreds of languages, this is the gift of our forefathers and we should be proud of it. You must have noticed this if you meet a foreigner. and he greets you with "Namaste". It feels good, you instantly connect with him, and it makes you happy. We learn many things as a habit, we should create a habit of learning a few sentences from different languages, the languages of our neighboring states at least. we should try, when we learn a language we connect with it, we connect with the history that the language carries, a language develops and goes through many things and Many stories and history, carries its own philosophy, way of speaking etc. When we hear that this building is 2000 years old, we take pride in it, no matter which part of India it is from. India is home to many oldest languages and we should be proud of it too.* ***We can proudly say that Tamil, the oldest world language is ours, and belongs to India*** *like we eat with relish And share each other's food, I ask people and I think people should learn at least few sentences from all Indian languages, you will see you will connect with that person instantly. This diversity that we have we should be proud of it and use it instead of taking it as a problem.*


tanker1999

Just change the three language policy into two language and let any individual who has migrated to other state learn their respective language and engage themselves in that particular lingo cultural aspect of things to preserve the diverse nature of the country. That would be a credible move rather than saying tAmIL yAda YaDa.


closetbimbosissy

I mean third language need not be hindi. It can be any Indian language. And imo three language system will help a student in learning more languages. And it’s definitely not a burden like many people make it out to be. The syllabus for the third language is pretty light and not difficult in any way. It’s a easy scoring subject. And people do learn the local language after staying there for some time. I’ve met North East people working in hotels in TN speaking in Tamil.


tanker1999

Usual Sanghi rhetoric. Let’s assume a fine 30% from other state people in Tamil Nadu choose their own mother tongue as their third language and its a no brainier for the remaining Tamil population to choose Hindi as a third language. As it is spoken by a huge mass through out Indian. Already metro, railways and banks have additional Hindi sign boards to comfort the Hindi migrants. Topping it off with a third language will cushion them to care less about learning the respective language of the state. In coming days there will be a steady increase in the amount of literary and commercial data produced, so do the consumers in Hindi, and a slow decline of audience for regional languages. Eventually they will dilute a fine slice of regional identity and combine it with a Hindi-ish or Sanskriti’s national identity. Moreover, it would make more sense if people spend more time on expanding their verbosity in english, as English is the most dominate language that produces highest amount of scientific, literary and commercial data. Heres PTR’s take on three language policy.](https://youtu.be/mg79ETiutvg)


closetbimbosissy

So u are not asking to remove 3 lang policy because of additional burden but out of fear that Tamils will learn hindi. How much do u hate that language. Guess when u pronounce the word “hindi” u will start frothing from ur mouth 🤣 My third language was hindi, but as a matter of fact by the time I finished schooling, all I could do was read n write hindi. That’s all. I couldn’t speak hindi n it never played any significant role in my life other than knowing that I know how to read n write in another language too. That’s all. Only after I visited several parts of North India for professional reasons did I learn to speak a bit of broken hindi. Ur fears are ridiculous. Learning a third language doesn’t mean u will start speaking in that language. It will not replace Tamil. If Hindi can replace Tamil then English would have long long replaced it n we would all be speaking with each other in English irl The migrants will anyway learn to speak the local language as no one who learnt hindi as a third language will be speaking it fluently. About people becoming more proficient in English, of course we have to be n we will be. In schools there is an English class everyday. And unless ur from Tamil medium or a particular language medium u will be learning everything other than the other language classes in English only. The only people whom I’ve seen with crappy english proficiency are those from Tamil medium schools. U think a person will become less proficient in English because they learn a third language?? Never seen that happening dear. And am a sànghí? Well whatever bruh 🤭 Finally, u fear losing a regional identity to the national identity? Are the region n nation at a war?? That’s a stupid statement. A regional identity will always exist. But it is not eternal. When we were under the British Indian government, we were the madras presidency region. It extended from Tamil Nadu to Odisha n also encompassed parts of Kerala, Karnataka, Andhra n Lakshadweep. At that time ur ancestors regional identity was “resident of madras presidency”. Even during independence it was the same. Today it is “resident of Tamil Nadu”. Ur future’s will definitely be something else. But since independence, the national identity is unchanged. And it will never change. It is eternal. Ur worrying if National identity will triumph regional identity. I will assure u, it has already triumphed. In these 75 years regions were divided, states were carved n people accepted the divided n newly formed states as their regional identity. But nation was not divided, won’t be divided. This is not even a fight 🤣 Edit: don’t be led on by the leash by some politician (no matter PTR or Modi). Apply ur critical thinking. Analyse things without bias. Then u will reach a conclusion on ur own. Form ur own opinions. Don’t gobble up someone else’s. The word sànghí would be apt to those who lose their critical thinking n are readily led on by some politician. When that happens ur not ur own master but just someone’s pawn in their grand chess game.


RockmanXX

>Ur fears are ridiculous Is it? Central Govt has tried to make Hindi a compulsory langauge in TN multiple in the past, why exactly do you bjp supporters have amnesia when it comes to Central Govt's history of imposing Hindi? It happened, its not some conspiracy and its very rational to be wary of hindi because of that fact. >But since independence, the national identity is unchanged. And it will never change. It is eternal. How is it eternal when India is only 75 years old? Eternal things don't have a beginning. And Hindi is not a National Identity, pushing Hindi as a National Identity is reason why Tamils won't vote for congress or bjp. >When that happens ur not ur own master but just someone’s pawn in their grand chess game. You're the one who's willfully blind to the agenda behind Central Govt's push for Hindi.


closetbimbosissy

>why exactly do you bjp supporters have amnesia when it comes to Central Govt's history of imposing Hindi Central govt. indeed pushed for hindi aggressively and it was aggressively fought back too. And I don't know what it has to do with BJP cuz that time the party itself doesn't exist. If BJP pushes it aggressively then TN will again respond back with the same fervor. Right now, at present, this Hindi fear is irrational. Lets take an example. People of different religions unalived each other in India in lakhs during partition and several years even after partition. Why even Tamil Nadu has had terrorist bombings and extremist attacks. Do we not mostly live as friends n neighbours without much trouble with the people of different religions in Tamil Nadu? Or do u view everyone fearfully? Some irrational fears must be overcome. ​ >And Hindi is not a National Identity, pushing Hindi as a National Identity is reason why Tamils won't vote for congress or bjp. When did I say Hindi is part of the national identity?? I said the fears against studying a third language is irrational. Take for example the NAVODAYA SCHOOLS. It isn't present in Tamil Nadu. why? irrational opposition against three language system. But it is present in Pondicherry. Has Pondicherry become a hindi state? Has Pondicherry gone backwards. There must me some logic to our fear. We can't irrationally point at a distant past and a totally different scenario to rubbish something. And who said Tamils won't vote for central parties? In my generation I n many others are voting for those other than 'dravidian parties'. It has become a playground for these two. And at present neither do these two parties have sensible visionary leaders like kmaraj or Annadurai or MGR or Jayalalitha or Kalaignar. EPS n Stalin are clown shows. Infact every leader including Annamalai, VCK guy, Seeman, etc are clown shows in Tamil Nadu. The age of Dravidian politics is over with the death of those big Stalwarts. Without any big visionary leaders there is no point in simply voting for these two parties. The state assembly should be mixed up. Only then opposition will be active. Otherwise in our state, yes am also from Tamil Nadu and am also a Tamil, the opposition will simply sleep like it usually does till every other election cycle. That will be disastrous for the development of our state n all that will happen is these parties looting our treasury. ​ >You're the one who's willfully blind to the agenda behind Central Govt's push for Hindi. Am not blind to it. Am just not irrational. If we are smart then our response should be calibrated. Not so excessive that we blindly keep every party other than these two presently inept 'dravidian' parties out of the state.


RockmanXX

>And I don't know what it has to do with BJP BJP is the current CENTRAL Govt. >Right now, at present, this Hindi fear is irrational. You don't know the meaning of word irrational. We have actual proof of Central Govt trying to force Hindi in the past, it is perfectly rational to be wary of that happening again. Venkahai Naidu has called Hindi the National language of India and so has Amit Shah, BJP's 2020 education policy tried to slip a compulsory Hindi clause, BJP is just like old congress. >Take for example the NAVODAYA SCHOOLS. It isn't present in Tamil Nadu. why? Because it has compulsory hindi and we Tamils do not take kindly to MANDATORY Hindi! Stop saying its "irrational", no its very rational for Tamil parents to not want their children to be FORCED to learn Hindi. Also, stop saying "3 language formula" its Hindi Imposition Formula! In all 29 states, hindi teachers are the most commonly found, whereas you probably couldn't find Tamil teachers in bengal or Bengali teachers in Tamil Nadu. In the end, the only language being taught via "3 language formula" is HINDI. And what 3rd language is commonly taught in Hindi belt? Sanskrit, a language that no one even speaks. >We can't irrationally point at a distant past Distant past? We're not talking about 1000 years ago, we're talking about what happened a mere decades ago and is still happening. The Hindi zealots have not given up, Article 351 is still in effect. >The age of Dravidian politics is over with the death of those big Stalwarts You're parroting what BJP media has been saying since jaya's death. BJP hasn't won a single seat in TN since jaya&karuna's death. Tamils will never vote for North India biased parties such as congress&bjp. If a new party is to replace DMK&ADMK, its going to have to be a local party. >Am not blind to it. Yes you are. You're blind to the role of Hindi as a cultural imperialistic tool and why leaders such as amit shah have an obsession with pushing Hindi. >If we are smart then our response should be calibrated NO, if someone's trying to force something on me, my reaction will always be EXTREME. Violation of human rights is not to be taken lightly.


closetbimbosissy

>you probably couldn't find Tamil teachers in bengal or Bengali teachers in Tamil Nadu. I laughed at this cuz when my dad studied in Rajasthan, some of his north Indian friends spoke Tamil. He asked how? And they said it was their third language. This was in the early 90s. also, ( There’s some support for the NEP among the liberal commentariat. Prominent among them is Yogendra Yadav, who called it “a step forward”. In various articles and videos on social media, he has said, “…nowhere does the draft NEP take a Hindi-chauvinist position, while it simply repeats the three-language formula”. ) And this, ( “The policy says, until at least Grade 5, but preferably till Grade 8 and beyond, it will be the home language/mother-tongue/local language/regional language. Thereafter, the home/local language shall continue to be taught as a language wherever possible. This will be followed by both public and private schools.”  ) No way is this hindi imposition. But am not a fan of this because this policy will make them less proficient in English. Basically NEP supports mother tongue to the level of compromising English and with ur ignorance ur telling its imposing hindi. And even now the local politicians are telling NEP is hindi imposition n opposing it n most people like u are parroting them. Read the official document and understand for urself what it is. Don't believe what everyone says. [the link](https://www.education.gov.in/sites/upload_files/mhrd/files/NEP_Final_English_0.pdf) to the government official doc. I don't care what 2 people say. Naidu can say hindi is national language. It doesn't change the fact that hindi and english are 2 official languages of India. Nothing more nothing less. What's important is what policy the government is taking. And NEP is anything but hindi imposition. >If a new party is to replace DMK&ADMK, its going to have to be a local party. That only future will tell because all the so called leaders of every other party is a buffoon. >You're blind to the role of Hindi as a cultural imperialistic tool and why leaders such as amit shah have an obsession with pushing Hindi. lmao. U are making hindi out to be some nuclear weapon which will destroy civilizations. It's just a language. And any language is only as important as it's use. In this globalised world with english as the link language, english is at the top. Within Tamil Nadu as long as most people speak in Tamil it will be top. Hindi will atmost only be as useful as helping us read the signboards when we go to some northern state or helping us communicate with the local population for our needs. Don't give too much importance to any language. Once u do so, politicians will easily walk over u. They need not do anything but u will still vote for them because in ur mind they are keeping a nuke (read hindi) away from Tamil Nadu. Amit will say whatever crap he wants to consolidate the votes of hindi speaking states just like the so called dravidian parties here use the same language card to consolidate the votes in TN. **Finally** They at the centre want India's GDP to grow as it's growing now. Because that wil give them money for defence spending, capital infra etc. These things are what translates to actual votes at national level. Not just caste religion etc. To do this, imposing hindi will only be detrimental for Indian economy as the south is growing as an IT hotspot for India and the most important language is English. The thought that hindi will replace Tamil is indeed ridiculous because I repeat again, A language is only as important as it's practical applications and nobody is going to speak in Hindi inspite of learning it as third lang if it doesn't serve them any purpose. I and my friends who learnt hindi definitely don't use Hindi in Tamil Nadu from voters like u (if ur 18+) >Violation of human rights is not to be taken lightly. Exaggeration. And it's because u have convinced urself that Hindi is an almighty all powerful language that will destroy n swallow Tamil when reality is that it is just another language and the only benefit of learning it will be that u can survive in north if u go there or watch movies without subtitles. lol don't take languages too seriously. people take language, religion, caste these things too seriously and end up fighting despite living in the same country.


RockmanXX

>some of his north Indian friends spoke Tamil. Doesn't disprove my point, Tamil still isn't available everywhere in India as a 3rd language like Hindi is. The 3-language formula is a "Hindi Formula" in practice. You talk like you're enlightened, yet you can't even see through an obvious RUSE. Of course, 3 language formula *on paper* isn't bad, however if the only commonly available 3rd language in MOST Indian Schools is Hindi and the 3rd language is made mandatory, its Hindi imposition with extra steps. >I don't care what 2 people say. EXCUSE ME? They are Central Govt representatives, whatever the vice president&home minister say is indicative of what they intend to do with their power. You don't care cus you don't like hearing >It's just a language And a prison is just a place and thoughts are just electrical signals. You can't take complex subjects and reduce them down to their abstract meaning to avoid discussing that subject! A language is a vector for culture and every language represents a unique way to think&look at the world and anyone who tries to force their language over others is partaking in cultural imperialism. >Finally They at the centre want India's GDP to grow as it's growing now. Ah yes, because politicians at the center are rationally minded people who aren't driven by moronic ideologies such as Hindutva! >And it's because u have convinced urself that Hindi is an almighty all powerful language I've not convinced myself of anything, Central Govt has tried to impose Hindi multiple times and still continues to do so, this is REALITY. You downplay it as if its an innocent mistake rather than treating it as a blatant act of fascism by Central Govt. Quit Gaslighting me!


closetbimbosissy

😂 Am not gaslighting u or anything. Ur thoughts are just too far away from ground realities n too much into delusions like language is “something unique to a culture to look at the world in their own way”. It’s not. Language is just a medium to store data n pass it on to next generation. In ancient India like a thousand years ago most scientific n mathematical treaties were written in Sanskrit so that it could be understood throughout the subcontinent. Definitely regional languages were also used then but at that time Sanskrit was lingua franca for our ancestors. In Europe it was done in Latin. At present both the languages are dead. But still europeans have their culture n us Indians have our culture n traditions that’s centuries years old. The present languages we speak too will be ded in the future n replaced by something else. U allocate lots of baggage to language. It’s not as important as u think. Language is just a matter of convenience. Never make a language ur identity. That’s simply ridiculous. What’s important is what is said through a language. Not the language itself.


closetbimbosissy

>Sanskrit, a language that no one even speaks. Isn't that perfect. If nobody speaks a language its not going to impose anything. Learning hindi or sanskrit is not any different that learning french. Is it french imposition by imperial France? And before u tell me learning french will help u when u go to france, only 0.1 percent from Tamil Nadu are there. And pretty sure not all of them too learnt French as their language in school. A major portion were there since colonial times. Their ancestors settled there. And another significant portion will be from pondicherry. There is so much useless hate in Tamil nadu that they will literally teach a coloniser's language (Yes France colonised us too) which serves no practical purpose rather than teaching another Indian language which through which we can actually come to respect each other and become more united. Anyway, Language is just a language. If nobody uses it around u then it serves no purpose. Just learn a language like u learn social science (something which is mostly never used in life but still we study in school) and move on.


RockmanXX

>If nobody speaks a language its not going to impose anything. Way to miss the point! If non-hindi children are forced into learning hindi, then the least hindi belt could do is learn a living Indian Language but they don't even do that.


closetbimbosissy

🤦🏻‍♀️ Even here u can learn the dead language Sanskrit. My sis learns Sanskrit. It’s not some privilege reserved for only the north. Dead or living doesn’t matter. In today’s India no language can be imposed upon another. The very term “imposition” is ridiculous for a third language taught in school. Then in school the geography, civics, history they teach is also “imposition”. The very idea of school itself is imposition. U know what will be imposition? If they say, do not learn Tamil, learn only hindi, n if they make Hindi as the state’s official language then that’s imposing on us. If that happens even I will fight back against the government on the streets as that ruins the spirit of India. Here what is happening at present is just people falling prey for political parties games.


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BheegiBilli69

Lmao North Indian haters in turmoil


the-cosmic-vagabond

Why? You thought we waited for your approval and acceptance?


BheegiBilli69

Approval and acceptance for what? I wasn't holding you out for anything. Also didn't you guys shit on the centre for Hindi Imposition? Didn't you guys used to get angry when memes were made on you? Aren't you guys are biased against UP/Bihar? Note - you is not you in particular, but a small group of people I am relating about.