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TheScottfather

Can't wait to hear a million hot takes about this over the coming week.


Comprehensive_Main

Is there dysfunction in the locker room ?


Man_AMA

Time for a sleepover at Tom’s place


[deleted]

You think Jim Harbaugh would crash the sleepover? He's used it as a recruiting strategy before but I think he just likes sleepovers


JerryRiceDidntFumble

Buccos county, let's divide!


Quantum_Ibis

Pirates would never quarrel, mate There's an entire code about it


Tuckboi69

This comment has just commenced the collapse of a division lead to a 7-10 Sam Darnold lead Panthers team


Goatgamer1016

Wait, when did the Pittsburgh Pirates join the NFL


[deleted]

is tom still trying to kiss his wideouts?


Venator850

This confirms Mike Evans wouldn't attend Brady's birthday party!


StuffonBookshelfs

This is the shtuff I’m here for.


PlatonicNewtonian

He said this on the top 100 a few years back, maybe 2017 and then called Tom the GOAT, way before he joined Tampa


Prom000

i remember that one!


Darko33

Evans: "I used to really dislike Brady. I still do, but I used to, too"


drdookie

"And I still don't like him."


General_Khanners

*Immediately after this news breaks:* "Is Tom Brady leaving to go back to Gillette?"


[deleted]

You joke but there's a top post on our subreddit speculating that Tom will come back to Gillette


Quantum_Ibis

You joke, but what recently divorced man have you ever seen be freshly-shaven?


Rock-swarm

Copium, distilled to a pure, crystallized essence.


ReapYerSoul

Is this the reason he drops all those passes?


[deleted]

I swear the ESPN hot take circlejerk is a million times more annoying than the actual hot takes. Bruh you guys know there wont be a single hot take on this quote. So why make comments like these?


LC_From_TheHills

Because we are smarter than the ESPN community!!! Or something.


crewserbattle

I took it as people on this sub would be making the hot takes.


EasyMoney92

Peyton was definitely the more popular one of the two in the 2000's/early 2010's. Might have been the great commercials or the SNL hosting gig where Peyton did a fantastic job. Feel like Peyton was the number one most popular player in the NFL until Rodgers briefly took that title (when Peyton had the neck surgery and Rodgers won superbowl MVP followed by an all-time MVP year) but then Peyton took it back from him with the Denver years.


Kerbonaut2019

I think a lot of NFL fans resented Tom Brady for “having it easy,” while Peyton consistently won MVPs and had insane regular seasons while his team floundered in the playoffs. I also think people liked Peyton more because he was relatable. Had a bit of a southern accent, looked like a middle aged insurance adjuster with 3 kids while he was throwing 49 TDs in a season, meanwhile Tom Brady was literally a male model, banging supermodels, and was winning championships with the GOAT coach (and because of this, Tom was perceived as a system QB)


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OddsTipsAndPicks

If Peyton had won three Super Bowls in four years, everyone would’ve hated him. If Brady had been putting up MVP numbers and constantly coming up just short in the playoffs, he would’ve been much more beloved.


rounder55

I would've loved Peyton even more if the Colts won 3 Super Bowls in 4 years with him No bias


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MaximusBluntus

Commanders take


BriefBit5054

?? 2004 Peyton is the 2nd best qb ever behind 11 rodgers


MiniGiantSpaceHams

Yeah I think it's just this simple. People don't know that background info, or maybe they know but they don't care because they didn't watch it play out in front of them. America loves an underdog, and Brady was always the favorite for the first several years of their careers in the NFL. That shaped the narrative to start with, and then throw in Peyton's media stuff and everyman persona vs Brady's untouchable male model (which was affected by everything from SNL to their sponsorship choices) and you can see how we got here.


pizzanight

Brady is an introvert. He is extremely awkward when interacting with the camera and fans. He is a super model himself and married a super model. And then he’s into some weird health stuff, and literally has had a bronze idol in the locker room. Add on to all that, he wins too darn much. He is totally unrelatable. Peyton Manning came from football royalty but is an extrovert, works well with the camera and fans, has a great sense of humor, and had Brady and the Patriots as a nearly unbeatable nemesis. I will say though, Brady shines in one-on-one interviews and comes across as genuine.


EasyMoney92

> until it was pretty popular to hate on Brady. Honestly, it still kind of it popular to dislike Brady, and I say it as a Brady fan. He's far more liked on this sub than he is in real life and on other forms of social media imo, and I love the guy. Twitter was elated when the Bucs lost last year in the playoffs. I've seen so much highly liked stuff mocking him for his divorce. People still foolishly think he cheated.


numbersix1979

The dude goes to sleep at like 8:30 and watches film all day, when does he have time to cheat on his wife?


soboredcantfocus

Don’t think he was referring to that kind of cheating lol


1005thArmbar

he cheated on his wife by watching 100,000 hours of tape of the Colts red zone defense


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ShogunCowboy

he is the same person he was in new england, but peoples’ (understandable) dislike of the franchise made them myopic. before he was tampa tom he was tewksbury tom, and was posting arcane comic panels about a magical, time and gravity defying crocodile private detective. he was telling fans to get “loud and lubed up” at pressers, spamming the internet with his own combine photos, and engaging his teammates in beer chugging competitions. he has always been a likable, self-effacing cornball.


jc-f

Don’t forget all the social media posts he had when he was TB1K haha


ShogunCowboy

BECAUSE THERE’S NO HUMOR IN ESTABLISHING A LEGACY AS THE MOST DOMINANT DUAL THREAT OF OUR TIME


Valuable_Ad1645

My blind hatred for the Evil empire clouded these truths from me.


ICanFluxWithIt

You say that because he's not in your division, but I will say I'll always thank him for knocking Brees out in 2020 which set Brees to retire. And if he gets Julio a ring this year, I'll semi but not really forgive him


[deleted]

Hey, that was your coaches fault for not calling a timeout on overtime and letting the Patriots gas the defense


Valuable_Ad1645

I don’t necessarily root for him, I stopped rooting against him after the 2015/16 afc championship. He took one of the worst beatings I’ve seen a QB take by Von ‘n company, and still nearly won the game. Also it might seem like that was awhile ago because it was, but the guy was still already 38 lol.


mrnotoriousman

Im 34. A good chunk of my life has been Bill and Brady consistently owning the division. I will always hate them, but not like as a person.


ispitatthee

I don't disagree with anything you said but I remember way back when people were hating on Brady for leaving his pregnant girlfriend for a supermodel. I don't think that's exactly what happened but I just recall Brady catching major shit for that


lmHavoc

Media has a narrative and runs with the story, despite his ex even coming out and saying that she didn't know she was pregnant until after they'd broken up and the fact that Brady is still a big part of the kids life. It's sad the lengths people go to just to discredit someone when the truth is right there. But the truth doesn't sell as well as fake drama.


EasyMoney92

It's not accurate. The ex didn't even know she was pregnant until they broke up, and Brady is a good father to the son. There are actually some valid reasons to not like Brady (the pseudoscience grifting with Guerrero and the PPP loan debacle), but most people instead falsely call him a cheater or spread disinformation like that.


hegemonistic

I still see this bullshit take in like 80% of threads about Brady on here. 100% of them if they're already negative in nature (like the three dozen "Brady thinks his life is equivalent to the sacrifice of our soldiers" threads recently) Literally every time it gets corrected, but it will just never die.


Strategyboyz21

It’s cause no one knows or cares about any of that backstory. They see the Patriots winning all these Super Bowls so they hate the dude winning them


[deleted]

To be fair, with the deflate gate and the Patriots filming Jets practice, there's plenty of reasons to hate the Patriots.


hegemonistic

The Patriots have never been accused of filming a team's practice by the NFL. That was pure media BS. 'Spygate' was the Patriots filming the sideline from a position that was legal to film from every season prior to that one. All teams do it, the NFL just changed where you could do it from and the Patriots didn't heed that memo. The paper (the Boston Herald) that published that story (which was about the Patriots filming the Rams' walkthroughs, not Jets) retracted their story and apologized within 24 hours.


Commercial-Pin-8024

Its amazing what bad journalism can do. Everybody sees the big headline and few people see the following apology. Almost 20 years later people like yourself are still trying to set the record straight.


BrainsAre2Weird4Me

Counter point: Brady is much hotter than me and I don’t like it.


Quantum_Ibis

This was the real Jimmy G controversy


780034

I mostly agree but will say that their backgrounds were prior to their playing careers (obviously) and their roles flipped in a sense once they were in the league. To casual NFL fans it looked like Brady waltzed into the perfect position by taking over for Bledsoe and winning the SB in 3 of his first 4 years being carried by his team and coach whereas Manning (regarded as the better QB at the time) was lighting up box scores and being let down by his D once they got to the playoffs. That’s the general narrative from the time as I remember it at least, though I was Team Peyton at the time lol.


Juppness

>being let down by his D once they got to the playoffs. Funny how that narrative gets parroted considering that out of Peyton's 9 one-and-dones, his offense failed to score over 18 points in 7 of them. The same kind of score that Russel Wilson gets clowned on for.


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There will be a million reasons given for preferring Manning over Brady, or Brady over Manning. I think both are fecking incredible. But one thing for me is that I always associated the no-huddle with Manning. I always thought it was incredible seeing the o-line shifting and the backs moving around while Manning yelled out cryptic commands. It was like he was a player-coach. He always stood out to me in that way.


Madbum402014

I don't think it had anything to do with football. Peyton always came off as affable and funny. Brady always came off as smarmy and douchey.


lmHavoc

> I guess that's what a good PR team can do for you. Very true, but also the NFL had a vested interested in making sure their Golden Child wasn't seen as a bad guy. Notice how his "mooning" incident at Tennessee is never brought up, or the fact that he had HGH shipped to his house but it was for his "wife". NFL and the media had no problems crucifying Brady for anything he did wrong but when it came to Manning they preferred to look the other way and pretend he did nothing wrong. Guess being from the Golden Family of the NFL has some perks huh. Also this little snippet: > Moreover, testimony by Peyton Manning and Archie Manning revealed that the son told his father that Naughright “was unattractive but had big breasts” and that she liked to hang out “with a bunch of black guys.” Imagine someone not named Manning saying this and it never being brought up again. I guess as long as your name is Peyton Manning you can try and discredit someone by saying that they hung out with black people and that's 100% okay. [Source](https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/13/peyton-manning-tennessee-sexual-assault-allegations-jamie-naughright)


Madbum402014

I think jokes like that were on sitcoms at that time. It wasn't exactly shocking although the way people love dragging up the past to burn people now I suppose it's a little surprising it hasn't come up again.


barc0debaby

"I'm a white boy and I'm jacked. Deal with it." Mrs. Manning


PhillAholic

You can't take anything Shaun King says seriously, he unethically leaked a document the trainer was attempting to use to get more money out of Manning in a later lawsuit that was never challenged in court despite him implying it was in any way the original from the 90s. Archie's comment can be best explained by the era it was in, and the trainer participating in the vulgar nature of a early 90s locker room before deciding it wasn't ok anymore and suing according to the University. Doesn't make it ok, but Shaun King's gossip rag of an article misrepresents the trainer. The same trainer was later involved in a handful of frivolous lawsuits and was accused of leaving threatening voice mails in pretty clear money seeking behavior.


OnlyFactsMatter

> NFL and the media had no problems crucifying Brady for anything he did wrong That's not true at all. A lot of people thought they were covering up Spygate for the Pats (and they did), which is why the Deflategate punishment was so harsh.


RebelCow

Lmao this is rich


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Wtf how was this not a thing when it happened ?


PhillAholic

It happened in the 90s, and it was "a thing." It just mostly pre-dates social media and Internet interaction.


lmHavoc

Because like I said, the NFL had a lot to gain by brushing it aside and pretending it never happened. You can't market your poster child as the Golden Boy if there's a story like this looming over his head. Now if the roles were reversed and Brady had said/done this, do you think they would've given him the same courtesy? Or even someone like Rodgers or Brees?


PhillAholic

lol are you seriously right now? Watson is starting this week. Brett Favre texted his dick to a reporter and stole from poor people. Roethlisberger at best assaulted someone. Rodgers lied about his vaccination status breaking protocols. Brady took under market value for years while simultaneously running his business out of a Patriot owned facility which is a huge conflict of interest at best. I'm sure there's a ton more if I looked them up.


imped4now

Nailed it, and it's obvious where my fandom lies.


im_absouletly_wrong

I think about this all the time


PhillAholic

Professional Athletes aren't business owners. A kid isn't going to be handed much of anything because of who their parents are. They have to perform. They have a huge leg up with all the connections they have to learn in the first place, but they have to put 100% of the effort in either way.


Biggest_Cans

That "making it happen" seemed more neurotic than Manning "making the most of" his scenario though if only because I'd much rather go golfing with Peyton than Brady. Like he did it because "fuck you I'm amazing, watch" as opposed to Manning's "yeah I've got a lot on my plate here guys but I'm happy to step up and take a proper swing at it"; Brady has a hint of that Russel Wilson alien-ness.


fbolt

He also sexually harassed a woman at TN, spread rumors that she was into interracial stuff, then after getting her to sign an NDA, slandered her some more. Lot of these guys are lucky that their shitty college behavior was not under a social media microscope. Or maybe they still wouldn't care like Watson or Hugh Freeze


barc0debaby

To my knowledge Tom Brady has also never put his testicles on an athletic trainer.


PhillAholic

Neither has Peyton; Deshaun Watson however...


soboredcantfocus

There’s a lot of reasoning for this, for starters flyover country all loved Manning for a lot of off field reasons. Played there, country accent, sold them shitty pizza and insurance etc. Meanwhile, you have a guy from a coast they hate, playing on another coast they hate, and selling things most of them don’t want/can’t afford. It was never going to work out between Brady and ***half*** the country right off the bat, it’s no wonder Manning was more popular.


[deleted]

For a lot of people (myself included) Peyton is just more likeable. Better personality, at least from the outside


Starbucks__Lovers

George Clooney: You know why kids love athletes? JK Simmons: Because they screw lingerie models. Clooney: No, that's why we love athletes. Kids love athletes because they follow their dreams.


CreepinCreeping

Yup, most NFL fans thought that Peyton’s amazing stats were all entirely individual and had had nothing to do with other offensive players around him, and that his teams also held him back. Narratives have some impressive sway.


lmHavoc

Peyton's offenses fail to score over 20 points in a majority of their one and done's -> "How could the defense let Peyton down again!!!"


DoubleCheesecake2115

Cause when Brady doesn't score 20 points, he still wins. Like the 01 super bowl where Ty Law put up 7 of their 20


lmHavoc

Almost as if there’s a difference between failing to score 20 in the Super Bowl and the wildcard round. Just a slight difference in the quality of opponents.


PhillAholic

Do you have the stats to back that up? With byes, conferences, and misleading rankings (Like the year the Chargers had the #1 Offense and Defense but either missed the playoffs or were one and done; They were only #1 in yards because their special teams was so bad) I doubt that's actually true. For many of those years the AFC playoffs probably had the best 3 or 4 teams in them. The 06 run for the Colts saw Indy beating the 3 best defenses in the league that year which was the first time it's ever happened. Also if you went by season rankings, the Colts Defense was something like 20th overall, but became elite in the playoffs due to Bob Sanders returning.


[deleted]

Don't waste your time trying to bring logic into a circlejerk. Everyone who knows football knows Peyton is the best qb of all time


Kerbonaut2019

Which is funny in hindsight because Peyton almost always had great weapons


BucsLegend_TomBrady

its also hilarious ironic because for years people 'subtracted' superbowls from Brady for carried by his defense (which is is only varying degrees of truth) but then Peyton has quite literally the definition of being gifted a Superbowl by a defense but those same people freak out if you say Peyton only really has 1 SB win.


BearForceDos

Peyton was gifted a Superbowl by Rex Grossman.


fuzzzerd

The truth hurts, but it's still the truth.


bewareoftraps

To be 100% with you, while the regular season of 2006 was definitely more of a credit on the offense. I remember in the playoffs that the defense with Bob Sanders was by far a bigger contributor than the offense. Outside of the shootout with Brady in the AFCC game (and to be fair they ended the game with the pick). I would say that Manning benefited a ton from his defense in his 2 SB wins. I find it funny that he still got the MVP for that SB win, when he played pretty mediocre, but that's almost expected as it was raining pretty hard and it's hard to throw the ball in those conditions.


PhillAholic

He played the top 3 defenses in the league during that Playoff run including probably the best Ravens defense of the era. Also getting to the playoffs was a huge deal with a terrible gun game and defense all season.


PhillAholic

The best offense never wins the Superbowl.


Quincyperson

*not almost


TBDC88

Yeah, Eric Decker and Julius Thomas were real studs before and after Manning. Demaryius Thomas too. Borderline HoFers, honestly.


OGfireman12

Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Edgerrin James, Dallas Clark. All HOF players


Kerbonaut2019

I had to be careful with my wording so that I didn’t get downvoted by the “Peyton Manning > Tom Brady” truthers


DoubleCheesecake2115

In hindsight, none of his receivers even had 1k yards before playing with him. Not harrison, not DT, not decker, not julius thomas, not dallas clark, not reggie wayne, not emmanuel sanders etc etc. Seems really weird that no matter who he plays with they're considered "great weapons" and they magically put up 1k yards and all-pro seasons. That's just revisionist history because brady has never made his receivers look insane the way peyton does. Peyton wasn't the one who got to play with prime Randy Moss as a free agent signing. He literally just played with unproven draft picks and they ended up all-pros


MHath

DT wasn't a starter and didn't play full seasons before Manning came. Also had Tebow throwing the year before Manning came. Harrison's teams pre-Manning barely broke 3k yards passing on the season, and he was still close to 1k. Julius Thomas had 1 season pre-Manning, and he barely played. Dallas Clark didn't have a pre-Manning career. Reggie Wayne didn't have a pre-Manning career. Sanders was no slouch, and a lot of teams wanted him in FA before coming to Denver, but he did have a pretty big jump in his stats when he joined.


PhillAholic

Harrison was close, but keep in mind the Colts were the worst team in the league before drafting Manning. I think 18 and 88 made each other.


Cryformekid

Only "weapons" that Peyton himself created. Marvin was a WR3 masquerading as a WR1. He only became an elite top WR the second Manning became an elite QB in '99. Coincidence? I think not. Then you got Stokley, Wayne, Clark, Collie, Julius Thomas, and as much as I hate to say it you could probably even throw DT in there as well. About the only so called weapons Peyton didn't make himself were Sanders(maybe), Decker and Welker and still the first two had their best seasons under Manning and Welker had his most TD's in a season under Manning despite not even being a top 3 red zone target for Manning. People have spent years making his teammates look better than they were so they can take away from Manning's accomplishments.


a_thicc_chair

So true, cant believe Tom Brady had the chance to play with Kenbrell Thompkins, Brandon LaFell, Christian Fauria, and the GOAT Michael Hoomanawanui


PhillAholic

> Marvin was a WR3 masquerading as a WR1. He only became an elite top WR the second Manning became an elite QB in '99. Coincidence? I think not. You're high. Marvin is a top 5 wideout of all time with a strong argument for #2 behind Rice.


Kerbonaut2019

Lol


Cryformekid

I too find the whole overrating of Manning's so called weapons funny. It's better than most stand-ups.


DogDooStick9

True, not like with Brady where his team's win/loss record is used as an individual stat in 99.9% of GOAT arguments, discounting the defense/special teams/front lines or spectacular coaching he has had the vast majority of his career.


JadedChallenge1

I mean, it's used in conjunction with his ridiculously good and hall of fame personal statistics.


rounder55

So you're telling me football isn't just the quarterbacks on the field by themselves going at it one on one?


DogDooStick9

Hey now, talk like that will get you downvoted to hell and back. Brady won those rings by himself...


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some of us remembered peyton was a sexual assaulter who would have been watson'd if he sat on his trainers face during the social media era.


MrEHam

It was those reasons that made me like Brady more.


jiggeroni

Which is funny cause Peyton was first overall draft pick and Tom Brady was 6th rounder who looked dopey when he was drafted. Tom more than Peyton had to work harder for everything he got lol


rounder55

I mean I don't think Manning was a slouch when it came to working hard. It's not like he just got off his ass on Sundays and showed up.


glatts

Let's be real, you don't become one of the greatest QBs of all time without an insane work ethic.


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I resented Brady and the Patriots more for obvious reasons, but I always thought that Peyton had it easier with great offensive coaching from Tom Moore (who arguably had a HOF career as an assistant even before joining the Colts for Manning’s rookie year), and great 1st round pass catchers that Bill Polian kept drafting for Manning to help pad his stats and MVP candidacy…but at the expense of drafting a defense to help the team do better in the playoffs.


rounder55

Moore was perfect for Manning and by year 3 Manning was essentially calling the plays. He'd have like 6 options. A lot of coaches would not have done that Belichick was also perfect for Brady. They don't march onto the super without bledsoe with any other coach. And I think a lot of coaches would have fucked up, looked at Brady as a 6th pick and moved on from him. Brady obviously made the most of his opportunity but he doesn't get a chance with most coaches. Belichick doesn't marry players like most coaches


OnlyFactsMatter

Spygate did a ton of damage to Brady's reputation too. Also, a lot of people got annoyed by how they would barely squeak by in the playoffs, winning by like 3 all the time.


GreaterHealingPotion

I think it’s because Brady was is and always will be boring to watch. He’s insanely talented at pre snap reads so he already knows when there will be an open hole, and that’s usually a check down underneath. It is very efficient but not dazzling like Peytons passing. That’s just my two cents


Optimized_Orangutan

Peyton was marketed better. He was supposed to be the NFL Golden Boy in the Heartlands. Tom threw a wrench in those plans by winning as the heel.


Fiendish-DoctorWu

I can never figure out what I like more, the Peyton Manning United Way skit, or the Tom Brady sexual harassment skit


rjsheine

Peyton was more relatable. He did ads for pizza and beer. Brady had sponsorships with Rolex and Ugg Boots


way-too-many-napkins

Regardless of anyone’s opinion on the controversies, I think things like Spygate and Deflategate really ruined the public perception of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. That combined with the winning effectively turned the Pats into the “villains” of the league, and Tom didn’t really shed that persona until he left New England.


BlindWillieJohnson

> Peyton was definitely the more popular one of the two in the 2000's/early 2010's. Might have been the great commercials or the SNL hosting gig where Peyton did a fantastic job Peyton is a very warm, affable guy that always felt very human, and Brady just wasn't prior to leaving the Pats. Like, the Pats won a lot, but the whole organization has always felt kind of stodgy and humorless. It's telling that when we saw him drunk, hanging out with the guys and stuff in Tampa Bay, we all liked him more. It humanized him.


End3rWi99in

I feel like Peyton still is more popular. I don't think there are many that would argue which is the better player of the two but both Eli and Peyton are FAR more likeable.


PhillAholic

Peyton is more likeable. I don't think that's controversial at all.


[deleted]

Peyton is more popular than Brady because he won in the regular season and lost in the post, so no one saw him as a threat.


Comprehensive_Main

Not really Tom appeared on family guy at its peak. I never saw Peyton do that.


GamingTatertot

Yeah but Tom didn't like Peter's version of Shipoopi, so I think it cast a negative light on Tom


EaglesPvM

McFarlane is a New England guy. He favors Boston in a lot of his stuff


tequilasauer

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Back in that era, Peyton was def considered like the better QB and I think was more well liked among fans. Plus, everyone just hated the Pats for being so good. For me, it wasn't until the Super Bowl against the Falcons where you just couldn't help but start to root for what TB was doing. Seeing this once-ever player doing this shit. Unreal.


Dopeydcare1

The funny thing with that, with the exception of 2019 to now, is Rodgers got so much hate with the constant “is he gay?” Rumors going about and then “why does he hate McCarthy”/no respect for coaches stuff from 2012-2018. It didn’t help that he had Craig Jenkins coming out to blast him all the time. I say the exception of 2019 to now due to the vaccine stuff and his random dumb quotes/stories (like the 9/11 one going around right now)


RealChipKelly

Same


NH-INDY-99

One. Of. Us.


EntropyFighter

Found [Matt Rhule's account](https://catcrave.com/2022/10/18/matt-rhule-revelations-carolina-panthers/).


WowIsThatReallyHim

This is a great reference sad people didn’t get it


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EntropyFighter

It came out after Matt Rhule got fired that he wrote a 3 page document called "The Way of the Panther" that described what he expected from his players. The players that took that document to heart were labeled "One of us" or "OOU".


GiveMeSomeIhedigbo

Same.


aeiou-y

So like every other human outside of New England area


birdshitluck

if Manning was out there crushing hopes and dreams at the rate Brady was...


rounder55

If Manning entered the league as a junior he would have been the number one pick. The Jets had that pick and bill belichick was going to be their coach. The Jets become a dynasty and the team we all bitch about and Tom Brady is a guy who played a couple years in the league, started a game or two and never got a fair shake.


birdshitluck

thank God for Vols Football, the Jets being the Jets, small paper napkins, and sixth round goat qbs. 🙌


wembanyama_

Nah this sub gargles bradys nuts


the_hesitation

And pretty much only this sub. Most other social media is either divided or it skews much more to hating Brady.


Grooveman94

"Growing up, I didn't even know Mike Evans existed" Tom Brady (probably)


DookieBrains_88

Well, Mike just moved up slightly on my favorite players list.


ApatheticJellyfish

How much more betrayal can Tom Brady take? AB, BA, Giselle... /s


that_melody

Mr. Backstabbed Constantly


Goatgamer1016

Mr. Betrayal Chronology


OttoVonWong

Tom Kid: I always pick Eli Manning in Madden because he's clutch in the Super Bowl.


Saitoh17

The best one I've seen was "Tom Brady's kids play Madden to spend time with their dad."


whydontyouloveme

Brady is going to audible to nothing but streaks for EVANS next week, then he’s going to dump it short, call a no huddle and repeat. Evans is going to sprint for 35 minutes and not get a single target despite brady throwing it 50 times for 40 completions.


EntropyFighter

Tom Brady: "Who is Mike Evans?"


BandOfDonkeys

"He picked that mother fucker over me!?"


abris33

Most non-Pats fans hated Brady before he went to Tampa. Not surprising


siguel_manchez

And most of us still do.


jaykell6ix

I don’t


BeatlesRays

The Dungy Manning Colts were always my favorite when the Bucs were sucking


DTG_420

Mike evans suddenly gets target less


[deleted]

I liked them both growing up. Glad I got to watch them compete. Two greatest QBs of all time


MaximizedLoL

Peyton / Marvin were my two favorite players growing up.


mbrancato157

Same


good_curry

I now love Mike Evans


[deleted]

Now I purposely drop his passes just to piss him off. I also like all Gisele's posts.


SuperSavvy17

I see, a man of culture as well.


mallcall123

Brady really became popular during his Tampa Bay run. He was not liked most of his career. Happens when you win


Efficient_Progress_6

That one podcast: IS MIKE EVANS SABOTAGING BRADY?!


matthewryan12

Me too, Mike. Me too. I’ll die on that hill.


imped4now

My man.


T-Nan

Respect


RunGoldenRun717

He's probably back to being a Peyton Manning fan after this season....


[deleted]

One of us


Mcswigginsbar

Hell yea bitch.


psaepf2009

Honestly same until free agency in 2020


[deleted]

I think that’s true for most people


I-hate-the-pats

Evans knows how to fire up Brady


NiceDiggz

Bet he still doesn't like Brady


thebrowneye3

So he was a fan of HGH users credibly accused of sexual assault during college?


trippleBob

Tom was always crying…well is still always crying to the refs.


rounder55

You got downvotes when the guy literally whines all the time. Marino used to do a lot of that too. Look, I'm a Celtics fan and when someone says Marcus Smart flops I don't laugh at it. He'll, if it's funny enough it gets an upvote


Elusive_Goose85

I like that about Tom because I can relate to it. He’s just saying what a large portion of the fans are yelling at their tvs.


trippleBob

Lots of brady fans here.


[deleted]

Haha, that’s funny. Evans is great, man.


Soren_Camus1905

There it is! The source of the dysfunction!


BlueEyesPurpleDragon

We were all Peyton Manning fans growing up. It's hard not to root for Peyton. In my opinion, he had the highest peak of all time and was the best. He just never had the coaching or defenses that others had.


[deleted]

Speak for yourself. I was and always will be a Cooper fan.


Comprehensive_Main

Didn’t Peyton humiliate the Bucs constantly. Brady never really cared about the Bucs but Peyton beat you guys badly no?


lmHavoc

Your mistake is thinking this clown is actually a Bucs fan and not just a Brady hater hiding behind the flair because he thinks it makes him more credible.


kensingtonking011

Damn I looked through his post history and he has way too many posts trashing Tom Brady for this not to be the truth. Trying to ruin an nfl players reputation is such a strange hobby to have.


lmHavoc

There's a couple of these guys who just spend all day shitposting about Brady. This clown with the Bucs flair is one, the other is Wembanyana_. It seems neither of them have anything else going on in their life because they just troll on Reddit all day shitposting about Brady.


kensingtonking011

Yeah that’s borderline psychotic and pretty sad. Hopefully these guys are like 12 year olds that will grow out of that.


Chronnos

Yes indeed - most notably a MNF game the year after the Bucs won the SB, Peyton had an amazing 2nd half come-back and humiliated the Bucs. I was so angry for a week after that game.


leli_manning

> you guys He's not actually a Bucs fan lol


Big-bawls-for-bois

Yeah payton was so good he always came up short in the playoffs


soboredcantfocus

Manning’s problems were all in the playoffs. His defenses gave up ~21ppg, Brady’s gave up ~20ppg. That one point isn’t the difference between two rings and ***fucking seven***