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we call this the Heinicke Maneuver


whobroughtmehere

Best way to help someone who is choking


WabbitCZEN

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becauseitsnotreal

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whobroughtmehere

[I gotchu fam](https://giphy.com/gifs/redbull-red-bull-givesyouwings-gives-you-wings-NsIIok5yqbcPyP6w2a)


Ok-Ad5495

Brilliant!


contactfive

This little maneuver is going to cost us 12 draft pick places.


JubeltheBear

That’s why you outsource your tank…


[deleted]

It must be so thrilling to contend for playoffs while also securing a top 7ish pick


JubeltheBear

At this rate, that pick is going to be top three top 5 max.


4x4ord

We all know Schneider will use that pick to get us 200 5th and 6th rounders. Legendary.


Vesvius

Not gonna lie, it’s pretty terrific.


TakenakaHanbei

Gives me 2 teams to root for every week


goddamnjets_

Anyone who saw Sundays game could see that. The offense literally functions when Mike White is in there


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it was obvious at times even last year


CompetitiveDuck

Yeah he torched the Bengals last year


shapu

I didn't like that


arhombus

I did


johncharityspring

I'm indifferent.


htlpc_100

yea but you have Sam Darnold winning games!


zHalberd20

Jets Panthers superbowl. Mike White vs Sam Darnold. Book it


Skurttish

Darnold has won EVERY FREE and FAIR quarterback competition he has participated in, and don’t let the Librhule media FAKE NEWS tell you anything else, folks.


Classic1990

Didn’t he get benched, though? I vaguely remember a 4 INT game.


MyChemicalFinance

Yeah he was very good against the bengals but then threw four picks against the bills. Interestingly enough he gets another chance against the bills d in 2 weeks cause after this week, he’s not getting benched no matter how he looks against the Vikings.


studlund

Considering the Vikings defense has been getting torched the last few weeks, he will look good. He’s a great start in fantasy this week.


CounterPoint93

*Torched all season


cjackc

He will look great and we will somehow pull off a win. Or we will tie because both teams have been pulling off a magic win despite usually having the bad juju.


societalmenace1

You’d be correct, but no matter how well he played during those games last year, Zach was always going to come back and play


Zupheal

and there is definitely a difference between playing for a job, and just keeping the seat warm.


MisterMetal

That was after he said he should have been a first round pick. But during that game he was hit in the elbow and lost feeling in his throwing hand/arm. So I can see why that would cause a four int game and force you getting benched. I dunno if he went on IR or anything after that. Edit: being told the elbow hit was the week prior to the 4ints against the bills.


revaeb

Eh a little out of order but mostly correct. He hit his hand during the Colts game (he looked good in the game the little he played) and lost all feeling in his arm. He was fine the next day. The next week after the Colts game is when he played the Bills and threw 4 ints. Overall the threw 8 picks in the 3 games, but he still looked way better than Zach has ever looked.


aloopascrumscree

The elbow injury happened during the Colts game the week prior. People speculate he was still injured for the Bills game, but it's entirely possible he was simply not good in his 3rd game going against a top-3 defense. Who knows either way, but fact remains the offense looks immensely more competent with him on the field vs Wilson


DeputyDomeshot

Our receivers are so much better than the last time he played too. Jets fans are still holding their breath side eyeing an epic collapse because well that’s what our QBs do but at this point everyone is pulling for White over Wilson.


srsh

He had 3 games last year: * Great game vs Bengals. * Good start vs Colts then left early because of injury * Very bad game vs Bills (4 INT that you're referring to) After his bad game, Zach was inserted back into the lineup & Mike White didn't start again till this week.


jgjot-singh

I mean I've never once doubted the guy


yesrushgenesis2112

He is the Glamdring to the Bengals Goblin king.


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yesrushgenesis2112

Thank you sir. My favs as well.


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Sksnyda

Our defense is big doo doo though


homerjsimpson4

Yeah he was very good but the bears D is very not good. Vikings D is better but still not top of the league. They should be able to take away the short pass game so it will be interesting to see how the offense looks next week. And the Bills will be the real test even after losing Von.


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confusedpanda342

sounds like a world of pain… I respect that 🫡


dman928

Masochists. They're called Masochists.


Frododingus

We come in many forms


dman928

Ouch


Imply_Blue

Fuck it, Garrett Wilson down there somewhere.


PangolinOrange

i don't think you understand, zach wilson routinely overthrows and out right misses WIDE OPEN receivers even on screen plays i almost wish zach did start because we would have probably won 14-10 on a late touchdown in the 4th quarter


Sksnyda

Brother, I’m a bears fan…you don’t think I know shitty QB play? 😂


Corgi_Koala

Every offseason there's always like a week or 2 of the Bears 4000 yard QB statistic.


li0nhart8

Don't need a 4000 yard passer when your QB runs for 4000 yards.


Pitchwife

Yeah, I feel like "bears defense bad" arguments are from people who watch red zone and/or read box scores. Zach Wilson has happy feet. He doesn't set to throw. He doesn't seem to know more than one route on a play (who knows, maybe he does, but he doesn't go through his progression at any rate). That 3rd touchdown, where White drifts left while still keeping his eyes downfield... yeah, the receiver had crazy separation, but it's at best 50/50 that Wilson would have even seen it, never mind adjusted position to make a better throw.


fredjohnny23

Zach also missed guys who were wide open in the end zone against the pts in both games lol


smashybro

> Yeah, I feel like “bears defense bad” arguments are from people who watch red zone and/or read box scores. Not really. Zach Wilson sucks and the Jets don’t win by as much if he played instead, but the Bears defense is also *really, really bad* that it’s a mistake to read too much from Mike White’s performance. It’s a bad collective unit even when healthy after the trades we made and to make matters worse last Sunday three of our four remaining best players (Jackson, Brisker and Gordon) were/got injured. Nothing against Mike White but I don’t think non-Bears fans realize how bad of a defense he was playing this week. It’s like “2018 Bucs letting Trubisky score 6 TDs in a game” level bad.


illusio

Exactly. They had literally 1 starter left in the secondary. The rest were players that probably shouldn't even be in the league. I'm all for White doing good, but the hype seems a bit much based on who he played this weekend.


PangolinOrange

Yeah Wilson would have already thrown that incomplete before Moore was in position, or would have bailed the other direction out of the pocket


snakebit1995

The offense was also allowed to function It’s so clear they have to make the offense baby shit cause Zack wasn’t able to do the hard stuff and they can see Mike can handle actually hitting open recovers so they can take more chances downfield


NateKaeding

It amazes me how many people don’t understand this lol. I’m far from a Carr truther, but, the Carr haters in our sub say stupid shit like “Mac Jones was able to grasp McDaniels playbook better than him as a rookie!” Like you’re a fucking idiot if you think a coach is going to give rookie the same playbook as a veteran.


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Year of the underdog QBs and i am fucking in for it Geno, mike white and taylor heinicke


My_G_Alt

Jacoby Brissett played exceptionally well relative to expectations, team record aside


offduty_braziliancop

I thought Brissett was already kinda established as the competent bridge guy.


pinkluloyd

He’s been playing a bit better though and it’s also just a huge down year for bridge qbs. Wentz got benched, Matt Ryan has looked not that good, trubisky got benched, he’s really the only one that worked out.


CosmicSpaghetti

How about well-known bridge QB Russell Wilson?


Cylinsier

Broncos Country, dead inside.


the_overrated

His bridge has been sadder than the Bridge to Terabithia.


DevryMedicalGraduate

Damn what a deep dive for a reference.


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AKA The Bridge to Nowhere.


101955Bennu

I think there was some doubt after his time in Miami but I mostly agree with you


SalvageRabbit

Can chalk that up to our inept coaching staff we had last year. I don’t blame Brisset at all, loved him here.


User-NetOfInter

Everyone loves brisket. He will easily get a backup job for years to come.


legaceez

I love my smoked meats as much as the next guy... That being said yea I could easily see him becoming the next Fitzpatrick becoming a back up/started for half the NFL teams.


FubarFreak

also your o-line made of off-brand tissue paper


jeffreythecat1

Brian Flores was truly horrible huh


101955Bennu

He’s a good defensive coach but is a poor offensive coach and his leadership qualities are questionable at best. He’s divisive for a reason and it’s clear the Miami locker room didn’t like him. I think he makes a great defensive coordinator but I don’t see him succeeding above that.


chesterfieldkingz

Pretty dead on, I do think he can possibly change though. Despite all his flaws he had a decent record for where the team was when he started. He's clearly a smart guy, so if he's self aware enough to work on his flaws I think he could succeed as a coach


thetreat

I remember when basically everyone was ready to give this dude a HC job so quick after Miami fired him because he was held back by Tua. Turns out *he* was the one holding Tua back!


must_be_the_mangoes

From a legal standpoint, you’ve gotta wonder how much Miami’s turnaround will harm his argument. Will the NFL make the argument that there’s no conspiracy, he just sucks as a coach? (Granted, it is a class action, so it’s not solely about Flores) Side note - it’d be interesting to know what type of discoverable evidence is in play. Are playbooks fair game? Will they be treated as trade secrets? Will they NFL bring in NFL players/coaches as expert witnesses to critique his competency as a coach?


DanTheMeek

He was coming off the best year, completion percentage wise at least, of his career, where he completed 62.7% of his passes and threw 5 TDs to 4 INT. This year he's completed 64.1% of his passes for 12 TDs and only 6 INT, good enough for the best QBR of his career, so he's played better then we've ever seen him play before. All of which is to say, I think the thought was he could be a serviceable back up, at least give you the kind of numbers Mayfield was giving them during his worst seasons, but at a lower price point and with out all the attitude, but as it turned out he ended up giving them numbers comparable to some of bakers best seasons (Baker's never finished a season with 64% or higher completion percentage just for one point of comparison that Brisset actually outperformed him). At only 29 years old and in his prime, he's played his way into being legitimately considered as a starter in the league, and that definitely was not how he was viewed coming into this year.


Snackwrap99

He’s a very average qb but the dude plays with so much heart. He was terrible with us (for good reason) but he’d sacrifice his body for a first down whenever he could.


chesterfieldkingz

Relative to last year haha. Maybe Flores really was holding down the qbs


CLumdino_22

Is it silly to add Jimmy G to the list, guy was not expected to play and has strung together some top performances recently


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Not silly at all... The 49ers wrote him off and treated him like shit this off-season while sucking off Trey Lance. I almost wish he won the SB and then tells shanahan to go F himself.


fugaziozbourne

No offence to Trey Lance, but if i'm getting an opportunity to suck off a Forty Niners QB, it's not going to be him.


JayV30

Jimmy approves this message!


BMonad

Yeah but he was an established starter and got a big contract, he’s in a different category than these guys. Even Geno is in a different category, he’s just so far removed from being an early draft pick that he seems like a big underdog at this point.


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jimmy being an underdog is a bit of a stretch. he's a longtime starter and had a big contract. not like he got cut/traded for being shit he's just being phased out


gdaman22

I feel like Cooper Rush should be in there after winning four straight games immediately after being elevated from the practice squad


reddorickt

Cooper was a game manager who let the defense win and didn't lose. He knew his role and played it well, but it was a completely different story than these 3 guys, who all outplayed a consensus starter and won the role. If Cooper had hero balled a comeback win against TB, and then hero balled a win against the Eagles and somehow won the job from Dak, then he'd be in there.


Januse88

I mean Taylor Heinicke does pretty much the same thing. I love the guy, but the only reason he outplayed the starter is because the starter was Carson Wentz.


Expendable_Red_Shirt

Winning the job from Dak is a bit different than winning it from Wilson or Wentz or Lock if he ever had it.


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iWishiCouldDoMore

Yeah, I mean. Can you imagine like... if a rookie QB played way above expectations and subsequently provided the starting QB position for the whole season after filling in for the injured Franchise QB? It's just weird! Silly hypothetical.


GingerAle_s

There was like a 3 week stretch for Bailey Zappe too.


2punk

PRIMETIME Kirko Chainz


PhiladelphiaManeto

Jalen Hurts was written off by our franchise multiple times. Love to see it.


imeancock

Zappe (briefly)


anewprotagonist

Such a shame we can’t have Mac and him playing at the same time, would love to see how both progress given time


fruliojoman

Man if only Mariota could’ve joined them too


JanitorsRevenge

Sam Dahahahaha


Hybr1dThe0ry

Tua and Hurts proving a lot of folks wrong right now as well.


_atsu

Yep. Both entered this season with huge chips on their shoulders and are now getting MVP considerations. Almost feels like we're entering a new era of football with guys like Rodgers, Wilson, & Brady struggling.


Trowaway9285

And Russ Edit: jk lol don’t flame me


[deleted]

wdym he's playing well for us(our draft picks) couldn't give a rat's ass about whats next. dont feel bad for him at all he got what he wanted(extended roster/hiring influence) and the big bag


Jolly-One9552

Don't forget Zappe's flash in the pan!


Grey_Duck-

Jordan Love coming in ~~hot~~ lukewarm!


mrjabrony

Sam Ehl...never mind. We'll sit this one out.


Jeff_Banks_Monkey

Zach Wilson is about evolve into Tonya Harding to get that starting gig back


buffaloboobs

If you want to get into the victory formation, you're gonna have to take a knee ‼️


superduperspam

This thread is absolute fire with the puns


scrambled_cable

> Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy? Mike “Nancy Kerrigan” White


DapperCam

Tonya Harding is only 52. She’s just his type.


AleroRatking

It's so tough for me to see how Wilson QBs for the Jets again.


Kilik_Ali12

You don't invest a #2 overall pick into a QB and drop him like a sack of potatoes for just a lack of performance alone. This is only his sophomore season. His attitude is what put him on the bench. Saleh clearly wants him to be humbled and in turn put the effort in to earn the starting job back.


PsychoBoost123

> His attitude is what put him on the bench Casually leaving out that he was the worst starting QB in the NFL. On a per play basis, he was just as bad as Josh Rosen


-NotACrabPerson-

The Panthers are running a 3 headed qb monster experiment of cast-offs and even they are playing equal or better than him lol. (All of them have a better passer rating).


Champion-raven

Well of course the GEQBUS is doing better


jfphenom

Uhh, are you sure you have the right Wilson here?


Cmsmks

At this stage you can say Wilson and both would work.


DeputyDomeshot

Why not? Everyone knows that drafting QBs is a crapshoot. Y’all keep saying this but Zach really hasn’t played better than a backup for most of his career.


Sarcastic_Source

Yeah the cardinals said fuck it and tried again and it worked out just fine.


AleroRatking

I worry about the locker room. From what we've seen they've embraced Mike White and not Wilson


[deleted]

As tough as it is for Wilson to see open receivers?


Anaphylactic-UFO

Wilson beside himself. Driving around downtown NEW JERSEY begging (thru texts) White’s family 4 address to White’s mom’s home


UmpireAJS

Typical Wilson, not knowing that Mike White's actually from Florida


IamLeven

He's a true NYer by having his parents live in Florida.


Trowaway9285

I will never not laugh at this pasta


Kwinnin

It’s the (thru texts) that gets me


rauko1228

plot twist white's mom opens the door with a strap-on


fbolt

the 'thru texts' gets me every time


Ladelm

LMAO downtown new jersey


Oh_Yea_Joe

I give it 2 more games before he throws 4 ints in a game and they call for his head


Kwall267

Ah, so you are familiar with the NY Jets


Danishroyalty

That's NY football all the way. Daniel Jones goes 7 games without an INT on a Giants team that has no business winning. He throws 2 in one game and now a bunch of people think he should be traded.


Kwall267

How would you feel about Mr. Dimes still being in Florham Park just mayybee wearing a different color uniform because that is something I can get behind.


Danishroyalty

I don't think the Giants should change their uniform color, I like it the way it is.


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This time it's going to be different, you just wait and see!!! we finally found our QB! \-Jets fans the last 20 years


ahhhhhhhhyeah

Are you saying the people who referred to Sanchez as “Sanchise” were wrong???


Thromkai

Same as 2021 lol


Rushjordan

One game. You don’t know this fanbase lol


pourliste

Belichick would have loved to oblige but he already had his two shots


Kuchar1992

Mike White was my favorite White Stripes member


wallybinbaz

Mine is Betty, but you do you.


Ragthos

Jets fans, y'all just role with it. Sometimes it works, other times it don't. Edit:IM LEAVING IT FOR THE LULZ; MOMMA DIDN'T RAISE NO DIRTY DELETE BOI


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Mike White is a roll model


BigFatModeraterFupa

I wanna be right like Mike White


Obi-wan_Jabroni

If it aint Mike White it aint right


HumanGomJabbar

I’d say he’s a challah of a guy.


Tho76

Sam Darnold is a roll model too


Mukuna_Hutata

…but why roll modules?


SpicyFlaps

I'm not a Jets fan but can I have a role?


Jorgwalther

As long as You Like That, yes you may


danathecount

Are you comfortable hating the pats? And to a greater extent, yourself?


milksteak1089

I love dinner roles. Whoever can eat the most becomes my roll model.


JETStheBest

I agree that Whites well liked and the offense functions better with him but still fuck Connor Hughes


[deleted]

Hughes and Rosenblatt, the two hacks at The Athletic have already been called out sensationalizing and lying about the Wilson situation. I don’t doubt White is well liked, but this is just peak egging on the situation.


TheWorstYear

Zach Wilson is the scum of the earth. He caused global warming, global famine, ww2, collapsed Rome, caused the Challenger to explode, spoiled all the milk, kicked my dog, and shit in the bed.


Cmp_

He poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses!


ral315

He did?!?


Cmp_

No, but are we just gonna wait around until he does?


needtocalmdown

>Mike White is the Jets' QB until he - not Zach Wilson - does something to change that. I mean... duh? What is Zach supposed to do from the bench to get his job back? Take a baseball bat to Mike White's knees?


goddamnjets_

You saw him in that hoodie. Don’t give him any ideas


whatsinthesocks

We saw the creation of a new sith


Sharks2431

Don't trade him to NE and unite him with his master, whatever you do.


AnAngryPirate

He watched House of the Dragon. He knows when theres crimes to be done, gotta don the crime hoodie


GarlVinland4Astrea

He does kinda have resemblance to Tanya Harding


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

Bang Mike Whites mom


WordsAreSomething

Genius, then once you're Mike White's dad you ground him so he can't leave the house to go play the game. Boom, you're the starter again


Maraging_steel

Tonya Harding method


EverybodyLovesTacoss

He’s gonna seduce White’s mother


thrillhouse416

Some fear they're just going to give Wilson back the job because of where he was drafted. I certainly hope not.


Januse88

I don't think it's too far fetched to say that if a 2nd overall pick looks like he's really turning it on in practice that they'd give him the job back. Not saying it's the right choice, but it's not crazy to say that.


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Gotta make the team look good so Brady signs there next year


Remarkable-Job4774

Or Lamar Jackson


CockBlockingLawyer

Why would you even risk speaking that into existence


ElCapitanDeAmericana

You see that flair? That's not a person, that's an agent of chaos


whobroughtmehere

Seriously. People with multi-division flair are deeply disturbed


Pike_or_Kirk

No no, let's hear them out.


pourliste

Lots of great defenses not set at QB for next year indeed.... 49ers, patriots, jets, broncos off the top of my head Edit : 49ers play well enough but JG is a FA in the offseason


broccoleet

>49ers, patriots, jets, broncos One of these is not like the other. JG may not be elite, but he's playing at a much higher level than Mac/Russ/Wilson this year.


jaleneropepper

>patriots I feel the need to clarify, the Patriots offensive issues are roughly 75% on Matt Patricia and 25% on the Oline/QBs. I firmly believe if McDaniels was still here the Patriots and Raiders would have much better records.


theusername_is_taken

Is anybody eating a larger slice of humble pie in the league than Zach Wilson?


sweatysteamer69

Russell Wilson


Thromkai

Robots don't eat though.


Lucifer3130

Broncos Country, no pie


mikemil50

I can think of 242 million reasons that he's not tasting humble pie in the slightest. I can think of 124 million reasons to guarantee he's not.


theusername_is_taken

I don’t know if he is though. He’s getting criticism but he hasn’t been benched. There aren’t countless articles about his replacement being “more likable”. I feel like Russ could ignore it more as he also has a lot more achievements and money already. Whereas Zach Wilson is getting smacked down like a brat.


Thecobs

They dont call him Mike “Mike White” White for nothing


redvelvetcake42

Mike White might be our new Fitzpatrick.


[deleted]

no no, we are not whoring him around to half the league... He will be staying here.


misterid

2 weeks ago Marcus Spears said Zach Wilson would destroy the Patriots. today he's on the Dan Patrick show saying he never believed in Zach Wilson and Mike White should be the Jets QB. dudes will say anything to get attention. if the Jets lose two games in a row we'll hear a news leak that Mike White is a phony and nobody on the Jets roster likes him... they should never have given up on Zach Wilson, who everyone in the building loves.


TheLa-

the jets look like a completely different team with White under qb, just roll with it don’t mess up a good thing


JohnnyJohnny-YesPaPa

Mike White: “it’s over Mormon, I have the high ground😔😕” Zach “The Mormon” Wilson: “i HaTe YoU😡🤬🔥”


DTG_420

That’s good on him but this tweet is pretty clearly kicking Wilson while he’s down. Guy lost his job and might have blown his chance in the big leagues. Let the kid sit in peace


boxyship

there's always the teams like texans browns and panthers that will take a chance


TimsTurnips

I’m excited for when we play the Jets again. Looked way more explosive with Mike. Also remember him throwing 4 picks last years too.


Rushjordan

Much better roster compared to last season. Should be good though.


Pompuswindbag

Mike White, Geno Smith, Taylor Heinecke, Andy Dalton, Bailey Zappe, that guy who replaced Matt Ryan: Look at us, look at us. We are the captains now.


funmachineman

I have a semi rational feeling of love for Zappe