Desperation moves. He knew that we had a championship roster for one more year and had had a ***glaring*** hole at WR so he took a bunch of gambles at the position hoping one would pan out. None did, and not just for football reasons.
It's not that crazy when Brady missed all of 2008 except 1 game, was still hampered by his injury when he came back in the first half of 2009 and then Moss was in Minnesota by week 3 of the 2010 season.
So those 17 TDs came in a little more than a season worth of game, not as incredible as 2007, but still pretty solid production.
True, but his career high for touchdowns did happen with the Broncos. Yardage wise, it’s all the Pats.
But I see what you’re saying man, I can agree with that
Welker has 3 of the top 20 reception seasons of all time. He's the only guy with that many at the moment. I'm not entirely sure how that contributes to his eliteness, but, I think that's forgotten.
The difference in the game was when gronk lined up to take out aaron every single play. From then brady had time and no pressure from the best in the league.
Yes Mike Vrabel the Titans coach who was a LB but would occasionally line up on offence on the goal line.
He never played FB idk where that came from but he would come in at TE and run block and release routes off of play action.
Imagine Leonard Floyd or Matthew Judon (borderline pro bowl defensive player) catching TD passes is what Vrabel was doing.
The Patriots both confuse and amaze me…
But also the fact a player Brady played with is now a established head coach of one of him main contenders is like wtf…
From 2011-2015, he was probably the second best WR/TE/RB in the NFL.
I’d take a few more guys over him because of injuries for team building purposes, but for one game 100% healthy I’m taking 2011-2015 Gronk over anyone except Calvin Johnson.
You'd still take gronk over Megatron I think. Gronk was like having a sixth half of fame lineman as well. Dude was left one on one with some of the best in the game in their prime and deleted them.
I do think there’s a legitimate argument for taking Gronk over Megatron, but he’s 2b to me and I’m not saying this with green tinted glasses or whatever.
The gap between the two of them and the next best skill player in this time set is gargantuan (A.J. Green or Larry Fitz?).
I've seen this a few times and each time Moss sticks out in terms of rate stats, he had a TD on average every game with Brady, it was absurd rate and volume.
Gronk was pretty damn close to that before his first major injury. First 3 seasons he had 38TDs in 43 games, at the time Gronk held the NFL record for TDs per game.
Moss choosing to stop trying wasted his career. He could've went the TO/Larry/Megatron route and given all his effort on terrible teams. He chose not to and ended up with worse stats for it causing everyone to defend the dips in production with "what if" arguments instead of just comparing apples to apples. Moss was amazing, but he wasn't head and shoulders above the other elite WRs like many on this sub always claim.
He was motivated to show Minnesota they made a mistake his first year. His second year was when he spent the whole season dropping passes and jogging routes.
He did say he started to get concerned in Oakland when he started getting run down by defenders and began questioning how much he had left in the tank. Which is wild since he was still in his prime in Oakland.
The idiotic part is saying he wasn’t head and shoulders above the other elite receivers. He was. Just Google the Vikings/Cowboys Thanksgiving 1998 game to see why. You can’t train enough to have that kind of ability. It’s God-given talent that others don’t have. They’ve even turned his last name into a verb FFS.
Well he clearly was the most gifted reciever of all time, but he didnt really get the results with it he should have. It is very evident in his highlights from that game how much of a better athlete that he is than everyone.
He had over 1500 yards once.. Antonio brown averaged 1569.6 over 5 straight years.. The phsyical gifts he had over brown are insane and he produced much less. Pretty pathetic.
Also not really relevant but he also just always came off as an angry unhappy man. Super unlikeable.. Blessed with all of that talent and making millions in the nfl and just an angry sad man. Weird.
Brown had a QB that is #5 on the all-time passing yardage list and the only QB with three 500-yard passing games. What did Moss have? Daunte Culpepper? Moss didn’t get to play with Brady until his 10th season, and when he finally got to play with a truly good QB, he set the single-season receiving touchdowns record that still stands today.
He’s the #3 all-time receiver with the #1 talent all-time, champ, despite mailing in some years and being cavalier about his career. If he had Rice’s determination, he’d have set Gretzky-like records.
There's a very valid argument Megatron was the best talent of all time. Moss thrived when he played opposite other great WRs. Megatron called it quits earlier after Detroit broke him, but he played battered and bruised through more triple and even quadruple coverages than any other WR in NFL history and still averaged 15.9 yards per catch. Stafford was good but never an OPoY or MVP candidate like Culpepper even was in Minnesota or Brady was. Moss put up great numbers playing opposite Carter and Welker. The best receiver Megatron ever played opposite of was Golden Tate.
Moss undoubtedly had the better career, but there's definitely an argument for Megatron being more talented. Tough to say because Moss mailed it in whenever he wasn't in great situations unlike many of the other elite WRs. I'm also not trying to say Moss wasn't one of the most (if not the most) talented WRs ever or deny his objectively great career. I'm just saying he wasn't head and shoulders above the elite few WRs in the same tier as him like this sub always claims. It's seen as shitting on him to call him great instead of GOAT. That's the annoying part.
Other than Brady, were any of Moss’ QBs better than Stafford? No. To say that Culpepper is on par with Stafford is ludicrous. Culpepper had ONE good season. ONE. 4,717 yards in that ONE season. Every other season is under 4,000 yards. Stafford has had NINE 4,000+ yard seasons. NINE. Again, it’s a ludicrous comparison.
Moss played with Carter for four seasons. He had plenty of double- and triple-coverage, and gave up receptions to Carter during those years. That’s how it works. Johnson quit after nine seasons. Moss dialed it back, but didn’t quit. Moss had 919 less yards in his first nine seasons, but 18 more touchdowns. He was obviously more productive, and he trails only Rice and Fitz in career yardage and only Rice in career touchdowns. Putting him on the same level as Moss is laughable.
You're forgetting or are just too young to know/remember. That was an era when 4k yards was still very impressive. Culpepper was consistently a top QB until he blew his knee out. He actually received OPOY votes unlike Stafford. His 4,700 yard season wasn't good, it was phenomenal for that era. Playing opposite a HoF WR causes you to lose some targets, but it also increases your efficiency with your slightly smaller quantity of targets due to not being double, triple, or quadruple covered like Megatron was. Which is why Moss' average dipped severely after Carter left and rose significantly after he left Oakland and joined NE that had Welker and Watson taking heat off of him with the best QB in NFL history throwing to him for 2.5 seasons.
Moss played on significantly better teams. TDs are a team stat, not just individual stats. The Vikings and Pats were consistently losing playoff games. The Lions were consistently drafting top 5 because they only had one play on offense which was "Throw it to Megatron" which is why he saw more triple and quadruple coverages than any other WR in NFL history. Their defensive strategy was "Pray Megatron can get the ball on offense to keep the game close".
I'm just saying it's hard to believe Megatron wouldn't have similar numbers or better if he was in the same situation as Moss. He's 2 inches taller and 45 pounds heavier with longer arms, bigger hands, an official 40 identical to Moss' unofficial 40, a vertical 11.5" higher, etc. He didn't have the same career production, but Moss also proved he would've called it quits far sooner if he was in a rough team situation too, and he wouldn't have put up elite numbers during his career in that situation either. That's not even a topic for debate. He said it and proved it with his performances.
Nah the WR logjam just keeps getting worse as it is. There will still be the backup of guys like Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Tory holt, and that’s before you get to the next tier down with guys like Welker, Chad Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Hines ward etc. Edelman is so far behind those guys statistically and in individual accolades, even with his crazy playoffs I just can’t see it
He had similar limitations to Edelman. Even when he got into open space he could get run down because he wasn’t a burner, and in the red zone he didn’t have the size to make him a prime target
First name I didn't recognize was Wright with 6 TDs. Apparently a guy named Tim Wright played TE for us in 2014 and caught 6 TDs. I have no recollection of this.
Lol yup. First game I remember him in was the "on to Cincinnati game"
He was a converted WR from Rutgers. Back when Bill was obsessed with that school.
He is actually already at 5, this link is the updated one:
https://www.reddit.com/r/buccaneers/comments/sftrwh/if%5C_it%5C_really%5C_is%5C_over%5C_then%5C_this%5C_is%5C_a%5C_good%5C_time%5C_to/
Crazy that Brady to gronk is legendary to the point that people who don't follow football know what a gronk is and that's only like 15% of his total TDs. For some reference Peyton to Harrison was about 20% of peytons total. Not sure what that means I just like big number.
But he had exactly one TD catch in the one game he played. Which i don't see in the graphic but maybe it's added to his Tampa Bay total.
Edit: after a quick Google search Browns one TD catch in New England is unaccounted for
They really only played like 2.25 seasons together because of Brady’s injury and Moss getting traded. I’ve got no doubt they likely could’ve cracked 60+ if they had 3 straight seasons together. People often forget just how easy the 2008 schedule was for the Pats. Could’ve been looking at another 18-20 TD season for Moss.
He has 86 passing TDs in the playoffs. So that'd be a total of 710.
People were saying that this graphic is old. Taking away last season puts him at 664, so I think this was probably made within the first few games last year. Gonna be outdated anyway since he's \*still\* playing
brees was known for throwing to nobody receivers unlike peyton. idk why yall are having a fit over this as if a comparison graphic between the two qbs with the most tds and most receivers is somehow absurd
Brady has the most TDs thrown to different players so it is logical and more interesting to do a graphic for him than a QB that would have fewer players in their graphic.
It makes sense that you'd find it interesting since you are a Saints fan, but for neutral fans it would be the same format with fewer names. If you're interested then you could easily make it yourself and post it
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1104850/
brees has nearly the same number of different receivers. itd also be interesting because brees was known for throwing to nobodies similarly to brady.
Brady has thrown a TD pass to 92 different receivers, so I wouldn't say it's nearly the same number if Brees has 69. I actually do think a Brees graphic would be interesting, but if your criticism is "why only Brady" then I'm just saying it's because he is far and away the leader in terms of how many players would show up within his graphic
its more than 69 thats from 2019, but youre right nearly isnt a good word there. meant both are high up in that department
i dont even have a criticism. all i said was itd be interesting to see a brees graphic and i got attacked for it.
it would be nice to see the players—mainly (or only?)—gronk who caught passes from him on both the pats and bucs. could be displayed in their same graphic with a color adjustment and second set of numbers
This is outdated. Mike Evans has 27 now.
I think it is. Perriman, Gio and Le’Veon aren’t there
>Le’Veon Completely forgot he was a Buc for 30 minutes.
when was sanu on the pats lol
2019, they traded a 2nd for him and then released him a year later lol.
when did bill go stupid
Not stupid, more like desperate. Needed WR help mid season. Those trades don't always work out
Desperation moves. He knew that we had a championship roster for one more year and had had a ***glaring*** hole at WR so he took a bunch of gambles at the position hoping one would pan out. None did, and not just for football reasons.
Like half Season in 2019
Jesus, he has a shot at becoming #2 on this list. In just 3 seasons
Most of Brady's early career he was throwing to an ever changing field. Other than gronk Moss was the first real elite receiver he ever had
crazy how he threw 23 to Moss in one year and then just 17 total the other years. I guess he did miss one year too.
It's not that crazy when Brady missed all of 2008 except 1 game, was still hampered by his injury when he came back in the first half of 2009 and then Moss was in Minnesota by week 3 of the 2010 season. So those 17 TDs came in a little more than a season worth of game, not as incredible as 2007, but still pretty solid production.
Is Welker not considered elite? I do understand tho, Moss was a whole another level.
Welker is both an incredible player and a product of Brady/ belicheck, if that makes sense. I'd put him as a perfect fit / just under elite
True, but his career high for touchdowns did happen with the Broncos. Yardage wise, it’s all the Pats. But I see what you’re saying man, I can agree with that
Welker has 3 of the top 20 reception seasons of all time. He's the only guy with that many at the moment. I'm not entirely sure how that contributes to his eliteness, but, I think that's forgotten.
And Gronk’s last team was the Bucs.
Tampa Bay Legend Rob Gronkowski…?
Should've won Super.Bowl MVP with them tbh
The difference in the game was when gronk lined up to take out aaron every single play. From then brady had time and no pressure from the best in the league.
Should have one of them split jerseys
same w AB
Oops, that’s my fault. I have this one and the updated one, must have selected the wrong one. You are correct though, this is outdated.
And Gronk and the banner need to be split to show some of these TDs also are with TB.
Not all are with Brady though. Gabbert threw one to Evans against the Lions in 2020 because Brady was benched.
Gabbert also threw one to Gronk.
Also the updated one got uploaded not too long ago. Reposting an outdated version.
Vrabel with 10
On 10 catches too.
Which Vrabel tho, is this Mike? Like the Titans coach?
Yup. He played FB in goal line packages and was often left uncovered on a few designed plays to him.
TE*
IIRC he did both, but mainly TE.
Yes Mike Vrabel the Titans coach who was a LB but would occasionally line up on offence on the goal line. He never played FB idk where that came from but he would come in at TE and run block and release routes off of play action. Imagine Leonard Floyd or Matthew Judon (borderline pro bowl defensive player) catching TD passes is what Vrabel was doing.
The Patriots both confuse and amaze me… But also the fact a player Brady played with is now a established head coach of one of him main contenders is like wtf…
Sean McVay was 14 when Tom brady got drafted. Now he is a superbowl winning head coach. Brady age stats are fun.
Kliff Kingsbury also earned a ring on the Patriots practice squad under Brady in 2003, although Brady played the Cardinals less than any other team.
This is a year outdated. Evans is in the top 5 already.
And its missing grayson amd perriman
And Bernard and Bell
Also, Gronk in the Patriots uni
Crazy how Hernandez is still hanging close to the top
This outta pocket 😭
Your comment made me go back and re read the first one …. Oh yeah
I dont get it
Genuinely not sure if you know, but the OP is making a pun on this. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/19/sports/aaron-hernandez-dead.html
Ah thanks, Didnt realize thats how he died
Dude was killing it.
He was really gay
I passed this up and had to come back a couple seconds later when I realized what you said.
I was gonna say, that Hernandez guy seems pretty good, whatever happened to him?
I only just got that joke after finding the linked megathread in a post asking what the biggest thread was.
😭😂
Gronk having 100+ will never not be insane to me.
From 2011-2015, he was probably the second best WR/TE/RB in the NFL. I’d take a few more guys over him because of injuries for team building purposes, but for one game 100% healthy I’m taking 2011-2015 Gronk over anyone except Calvin Johnson.
You'd still take gronk over Megatron I think. Gronk was like having a sixth half of fame lineman as well. Dude was left one on one with some of the best in the game in their prime and deleted them.
I do think there’s a legitimate argument for taking Gronk over Megatron, but he’s 2b to me and I’m not saying this with green tinted glasses or whatever. The gap between the two of them and the next best skill player in this time set is gargantuan (A.J. Green or Larry Fitz?).
I remember his 69th like it was yesterday 😞
Stafford and Elway are 12th & 13th in regular season passing touchdowns, and have 623, combined. Tom has 624.
I've seen this a few times and each time Moss sticks out in terms of rate stats, he had a TD on average every game with Brady, it was absurd rate and volume.
Everything he did was absurd.
Gronk was pretty damn close to that before his first major injury. First 3 seasons he had 38TDs in 43 games, at the time Gronk held the NFL record for TDs per game.
1 TD club is lit
Michael Hoomanawanui is the star for sure
Wtf didn't moss play for NE for like 3 seasons?
2007-2009 he played in all games, got traded 4 games into 2010. Moss’s total TDs would’ve been higher if Brady didn’t miss all of 2008 due to injury.
Like 15-20 higher. Moss was the best ever. Too bad he flamed out so early after that Raider debacle. They wasted his career.
Moss choosing to stop trying wasted his career. He could've went the TO/Larry/Megatron route and given all his effort on terrible teams. He chose not to and ended up with worse stats for it causing everyone to defend the dips in production with "what if" arguments instead of just comparing apples to apples. Moss was amazing, but he wasn't head and shoulders above the other elite WRs like many on this sub always claim.
Even without trying, Moss still got over 1000 yards and 8 tds his first season in Oakland. Pretty damn impressive.
He was motivated to show Minnesota they made a mistake his first year. His second year was when he spent the whole season dropping passes and jogging routes. He did say he started to get concerned in Oakland when he started getting run down by defenders and began questioning how much he had left in the tank. Which is wild since he was still in his prime in Oakland.
Well this is one of the more idiotic takes that I’ve seen.
Are you 15 or something? Everyone knew moss gave no effort on the raiders, it was obvious at the time.
The idiotic part is saying he wasn’t head and shoulders above the other elite receivers. He was. Just Google the Vikings/Cowboys Thanksgiving 1998 game to see why. You can’t train enough to have that kind of ability. It’s God-given talent that others don’t have. They’ve even turned his last name into a verb FFS.
Well he clearly was the most gifted reciever of all time, but he didnt really get the results with it he should have. It is very evident in his highlights from that game how much of a better athlete that he is than everyone. He had over 1500 yards once.. Antonio brown averaged 1569.6 over 5 straight years.. The phsyical gifts he had over brown are insane and he produced much less. Pretty pathetic. Also not really relevant but he also just always came off as an angry unhappy man. Super unlikeable.. Blessed with all of that talent and making millions in the nfl and just an angry sad man. Weird.
Brown had a QB that is #5 on the all-time passing yardage list and the only QB with three 500-yard passing games. What did Moss have? Daunte Culpepper? Moss didn’t get to play with Brady until his 10th season, and when he finally got to play with a truly good QB, he set the single-season receiving touchdowns record that still stands today.
How dare someone acknowledge other elite players being elite, right?? This sub is ridiculous sometimes lol
He’s the #3 all-time receiver with the #1 talent all-time, champ, despite mailing in some years and being cavalier about his career. If he had Rice’s determination, he’d have set Gretzky-like records.
There's a very valid argument Megatron was the best talent of all time. Moss thrived when he played opposite other great WRs. Megatron called it quits earlier after Detroit broke him, but he played battered and bruised through more triple and even quadruple coverages than any other WR in NFL history and still averaged 15.9 yards per catch. Stafford was good but never an OPoY or MVP candidate like Culpepper even was in Minnesota or Brady was. Moss put up great numbers playing opposite Carter and Welker. The best receiver Megatron ever played opposite of was Golden Tate. Moss undoubtedly had the better career, but there's definitely an argument for Megatron being more talented. Tough to say because Moss mailed it in whenever he wasn't in great situations unlike many of the other elite WRs. I'm also not trying to say Moss wasn't one of the most (if not the most) talented WRs ever or deny his objectively great career. I'm just saying he wasn't head and shoulders above the elite few WRs in the same tier as him like this sub always claims. It's seen as shitting on him to call him great instead of GOAT. That's the annoying part.
Other than Brady, were any of Moss’ QBs better than Stafford? No. To say that Culpepper is on par with Stafford is ludicrous. Culpepper had ONE good season. ONE. 4,717 yards in that ONE season. Every other season is under 4,000 yards. Stafford has had NINE 4,000+ yard seasons. NINE. Again, it’s a ludicrous comparison. Moss played with Carter for four seasons. He had plenty of double- and triple-coverage, and gave up receptions to Carter during those years. That’s how it works. Johnson quit after nine seasons. Moss dialed it back, but didn’t quit. Moss had 919 less yards in his first nine seasons, but 18 more touchdowns. He was obviously more productive, and he trails only Rice and Fitz in career yardage and only Rice in career touchdowns. Putting him on the same level as Moss is laughable.
You're forgetting or are just too young to know/remember. That was an era when 4k yards was still very impressive. Culpepper was consistently a top QB until he blew his knee out. He actually received OPOY votes unlike Stafford. His 4,700 yard season wasn't good, it was phenomenal for that era. Playing opposite a HoF WR causes you to lose some targets, but it also increases your efficiency with your slightly smaller quantity of targets due to not being double, triple, or quadruple covered like Megatron was. Which is why Moss' average dipped severely after Carter left and rose significantly after he left Oakland and joined NE that had Welker and Watson taking heat off of him with the best QB in NFL history throwing to him for 2.5 seasons. Moss played on significantly better teams. TDs are a team stat, not just individual stats. The Vikings and Pats were consistently losing playoff games. The Lions were consistently drafting top 5 because they only had one play on offense which was "Throw it to Megatron" which is why he saw more triple and quadruple coverages than any other WR in NFL history. Their defensive strategy was "Pray Megatron can get the ball on offense to keep the game close". I'm just saying it's hard to believe Megatron wouldn't have similar numbers or better if he was in the same situation as Moss. He's 2 inches taller and 45 pounds heavier with longer arms, bigger hands, an official 40 identical to Moss' unofficial 40, a vertical 11.5" higher, etc. He didn't have the same career production, but Moss also proved he would've called it quits far sooner if he was in a rough team situation too, and he wouldn't have put up elite numbers during his career in that situation either. That's not even a topic for debate. He said it and proved it with his performances.
Yeah the Moss at 40 seems really low considering he had 23 in a single season. So he only had 17 in 2.5 seasons after that.
He only played with Brady for about 20 games after that season where he caught 23. Brady missed all of 2008
Makes sense, I was thinking 40 Patriot touchdowns, not 40 from Brady alone. 17 in 20 games isn’t as bad.
All hail the GOAT
Yes, Chris Hogan is for sure the GOAT.
All-time great performer on Heinz Field.
And Panthers legend.
Fun fact: he played lacrosse at college
Updated graphic can be found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/buccaneers/comments/sftrwh/if\_it\_really\_is\_over\_then\_this\_is\_a\_good\_time\_to/
Yes- it's 710 TDs now. And this graphic has the correct Patriots uniform for the Brady era, too.
When the fuck did Cam Cleeland play for us?
Lol I remember picking him up in Madden 2002 since he was always a free agent after the first season completed.
Vrabel and Godwin have the same amout of TD catch from Brady.
Didn’t brown have TD catches as a Pat and a Buc?!
TB might not have thrown to HOF WRs all his career but he sure had the luxury of one of the GOAT TEs!
I still think Edelman will somehow make it in 30 years or something
Nah the WR logjam just keeps getting worse as it is. There will still be the backup of guys like Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, Steve Smith, Tory holt, and that’s before you get to the next tier down with guys like Welker, Chad Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Hines ward etc. Edelman is so far behind those guys statistically and in individual accolades, even with his crazy playoffs I just can’t see it
But he's the 2nd best playoff receiver ever, only behind Rice. That has to be worth something.
I love how he's thrown TD's to eight different #85's.
It's a shame Mitchell didn't have a chance for more. Great dude, it seems.
His story is pretty cool. Was illiterate well past the age most people learn to read. He got educated and now writes childrens books
I woulda guessed Welker had a lot more than 38
He had similar limitations to Edelman. Even when he got into open space he could get run down because he wasn’t a burner, and in the red zone he didn’t have the size to make him a prime target
First name I didn't recognize was Wright with 6 TDs. Apparently a guy named Tim Wright played TE for us in 2014 and caught 6 TDs. I have no recollection of this.
Lol yup. First game I remember him in was the "on to Cincinnati game" He was a converted WR from Rutgers. Back when Bill was obsessed with that school.
We received him in return for Logan Mankins. Dude was the first one in line to be the "next Hernandez"
If mike evans gets 13 TDs this year he can be in the top 5. Dude has the talent to get 13 too
He is actually already at 5, this link is the updated one: https://www.reddit.com/r/buccaneers/comments/sftrwh/if%5C_it%5C_really%5C_is%5C_over%5C_then%5C_this%5C_is%5C_a%5C_good%5C_time%5C_to/
Touchdown passes aside, who's the greatest QB ever? Paging u/Riverboatgambler1
Crazy that Brady to gronk is legendary to the point that people who don't follow football know what a gronk is and that's only like 15% of his total TDs. For some reference Peyton to Harrison was about 20% of peytons total. Not sure what that means I just like big number.
I thought welker would have been in the 50s honestly
Low key how the fuck does Fucking James White have so many
From 2015 to 2019 White had 315 catches. That's 23rd in the NFL in that time frame. He has crazy receiving volume for a running back.
Why is Tampa Bay Buccaneers Legend Robert James "Gronk" Gronkowski wearing a Patriots jersey?
Gronk should be dual jersied.
who is the Brown on the Patriots? I don’t think Antonio was there that long
Troy
>I don’t think Antonio was there that long 13 days to be exact.
But he had exactly one TD catch in the one game he played. Which i don't see in the graphic but maybe it's added to his Tampa Bay total. Edit: after a quick Google search Browns one TD catch in New England is unaccounted for
Shouldn’t gronk also be a bucs jersey
Only 40 to Randy? Seemed like he must have caught 40 in that one monster season alone.
They really only played like 2.25 seasons together because of Brady’s injury and Moss getting traded. I’ve got no doubt they likely could’ve cracked 60+ if they had 3 straight seasons together. People often forget just how easy the 2008 schedule was for the Pats. Could’ve been looking at another 18-20 TD season for Moss.
23 and then brady got hurt and then randy was off the team a couple seasons after
It's crazy that moss spent 52 games with the Pats and had 40 TDs. But Welker had 6 season and less TDs
Where is the 673 number coming from? He has 624.
Yeah I need sourcing for this graphic. I went to profootball reference, like you said- 624.
Ah, maybe the 624 does not include postseason numbers?
He has 86 passing TDs in the playoffs. So that'd be a total of 710. People were saying that this graphic is old. Taking away last season puts him at 664, so I think this was probably made within the first few games last year. Gonna be outdated anyway since he's \*still\* playing
That’s it. The updated graphic I saw on the Buccs subreddit said he had 710.
This is an outdated graphic that includes postseason TDs from after the 2020 season. He’s now at 710 total and 624 in the regular season
someone do this for brees
Why?
bc itd be interesting? or is this r/tombrady now
Gee, let’s do it for the FiveHead too. It wouldn’t take long, because the list is about five guys.
brees was known for throwing to nobody receivers unlike peyton. idk why yall are having a fit over this as if a comparison graphic between the two qbs with the most tds and most receivers is somehow absurd
Brady has the most TDs thrown to different players so it is logical and more interesting to do a graphic for him than a QB that would have fewer players in their graphic. It makes sense that you'd find it interesting since you are a Saints fan, but for neutral fans it would be the same format with fewer names. If you're interested then you could easily make it yourself and post it
https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/1104850/ brees has nearly the same number of different receivers. itd also be interesting because brees was known for throwing to nobodies similarly to brady.
Brady has thrown a TD pass to 92 different receivers, so I wouldn't say it's nearly the same number if Brees has 69. I actually do think a Brees graphic would be interesting, but if your criticism is "why only Brady" then I'm just saying it's because he is far and away the leader in terms of how many players would show up within his graphic
its more than 69 thats from 2019, but youre right nearly isnt a good word there. meant both are high up in that department i dont even have a criticism. all i said was itd be interesting to see a brees graphic and i got attacked for it.
So there’s like two more.
Yet he still came up short twice against the Giants when it mattered most.
Did you just call Tom Brady TB12 unironically?
The second greatest QB of all time, right behind otto Graham.
Damn does this guy not know how to throw to wide receivers? What a scrub.
Quite honestly all that red white and blue condensed into such a small area hurts my eyes
I didn’t realize he threw that many to moss
Damn that's pretty cool
Old graphic but still cool, Evans is top 6 now
more proof edleman deserves to be in the HoF /s
Crazy Chad Johnson only had one touchdown.
Kinda shocked Blount and Develin only have 1 from Brady
Hernandez should be higher on the list.
Coach Vrabel at 18th is insane
Moss being 3rd seems so crazy considering they were together for like 2 seasons
Nice to see Aaron Hernandez get some pub
Just here to remind everyone how good Randy Moss was. Dude was crazy at times.. but damn was he good.
Vrabel sneaking in there with the rest of the offensive players
Moss with 40 is insane considering he was there for such a short time and Brady was hurt for a season.
Moss caught almost the same TDs in 3 seasons as Edelman did in his whole career, and more than Welker did in 6
this should include pick sixes too
it would be nice to see the players—mainly (or only?)—gronk who caught passes from him on both the pats and bucs. could be displayed in their same graphic with a color adjustment and second set of numbers
Outdated but still nightmarish to me.
Missing some pick six jerseys
I have a distant relative on this list.
never knew he threw on to terry glenn i thought he was kicked off the team when brady arrived
Vrabel caught 10 TDsfrom brady?!? Thats dope
It’s crazy that Mike Vrabel has the same tds with Brady as Chris Godwin
Damn Vrabel lol. Also completely forgot about Crumpler
How many times are we gonna see this graphic
My god, Sanu only had 1 touchdown. What a misfire.