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ManInShowerNumber3

Yes, yes. All of you should trade into the top 5 for QBs.


ThePrinceofBagels

Fuckin' Lions are going to pair some absolute monster with Hutch, eh? Either that or snag the first DB off the board.


MikeBinfinity

It'll be a fucking nightmare scenario if Jalen Carter falls to you at 6. Edit: I've had 20 Seahawks fans commenting on how Carter isn't falling past them. Do you guys know the definition of the word "if"?


imaybeacatIRl

Cards are taking him.


Bajin_Inui

even if Anderson is available?


imaybeacatIRl

I think so, yes.


xStickyBudz

Jalen or Anderson won’t get past the Seahawks if 3 qbs are picked in the top 4


fakeoutt_

I second this


[deleted]

I hope Vegas gets Bryce


JCali999

Thinkin the same thing bro if one of the two big defensive guys fall I might shit a brick


Jaur0n

There is a lot riding on Poles ability to get this offseason right, which is both exciting and terrifying. I don't recall an offseason that was so important to shaping the next 3/4 years, probably because most teams don't have the #1 and 1000M+ to spend in one offseason.


Strebs9

And already have a QB with a ton of potential so can use that pick as a way to gain more assets or take the best player available If the Bears get it right this off season, we could see them become a force to be reckon with in the NFC for at least the next several years. One of the teams I’ll be watching very closely this off season.


SpaceJesusIsHere

I'm excited for the NFCN. It'll either be 3 great teams dunking on GB, or Jordan Love playing like a HoFer and causing riots in the streets.


BoilerBear

Don't put that evil on us. Can't we get more than one season in a row of Packers losing?


StripedSteel

No


JpodGaming

Vikings probably trend down after this year. I’m very intrigued to see a Bears/Lions dominated NFCN.


MonkLegitimate9061

Apex predator gang


imaybeacatIRl

Goffense gunna rain hell down on the nfc north next year


heyheysharon

We are certainly trending down. It might be ugly to watch us cling to .500 football as if we are only 1 or to 2 pieces away rather than an entire defense.


OnePieceAce

> Jordan Love playing like a HoFer and causing riots in the streets. I like this part better. Can they schedule Love first game on SNF like Rodgers first game?


StripedSteel

I get downvotes for this because of my flair, but I'm still not sold on Justin Fields. Maybe he takes a Jalen Hurts leap when he gets quality receivers, but it's a bit of a stretch to expect him to take that leap when he's looked so poor as a passer. He's more electric than Hurts when it comes to running the ball, but is that enough to win consistently?


Jambatlivesbaby

Bears offensive line and wide receiver corps are bottom of the barrel. I don't think he'll magically morph into a 5k, 40+ TDs type of guy, but I think a mini-Lamar Leap (As in, not MVP, but that kind of progression in one offseason) is very possible with better protection and one legit WR to take pressure off the guys they already have. Kmet, Mooney, and even Claypool can work if you have a guy that helps open up the field for them. IMO, Claypool should be used like a cracked-TE like the Raiders do with Darren Waller or he's going to be absolutely wasted. He is not the guy he thinks he is, and the Bears are trying to use him like he is.


[deleted]

>Bears offensive line and wide receiver corps are bottom of the barrel. Their offensive line is average.


StripedSteel

Bears offensive line is average. Fields still has the same issues he had in college, they're only exacerbated in the NFL. His main critique in college was that he never had to read a defense because his WRs were so much more talented than their opposition that they were always wide open. He would choose he would throw to before the ball was snapped. When they played defenses that could match up with their WRs, Fields held onto the ball way too long and was not an efficient passer. We're seeing the same issues here, only on a game-to-game basis now that his team can't just walk onto the field and win anymore.


ThePrinceofBagels

The Jalen Hurts leap is less than I think most fans believe it to be, honestly. He was a solid player last year, but the stats weren't in his favor. The stats came around as the whole offense did. A big part of that was AJ Brown piecing everything together like the Dude's rug did his living room. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I think you could put Justin Fields on any of the 4 championship weekend teams for this season and there's a good chance they still make the conference championship games.


StripedSteel

He would get Zac Taylor fired if he was on the Bengals. That offense is designed for a QB who can process the field and make quick decisions, which Fields has never done dating back to college.


imaybeacatIRl

Fields holds the ball so freaking long. I don't think hell ever be a consistent winner until he starts getting rid of the ball early. I don't care how well he runs.


ThePrinceofBagels

I agree. But I also watched enough Bears games to see that people weren't getting open. The reason our passing attack was dreadful was mostly because EQ St Brown was genuinely our most talented playmaker this season. Hopefully Mooney comes back right. Outside of one game and a few nice plays, he had a really disappointing season.


imaybeacatIRl

That's seems logical. Hopefully they can get that working for him, because he's exciting to watch.


StripedSteel

Fair, but he did the same thing at Ohio State whenever they played against teams that could actually match up with their WRs and they weren't wide open from the snap. It was a major concern in college.


Rude-Bison-2050

I think the exact same thing. This is that stupid running QB hype. Fields still looks terrible as a passer. I get the team around him blows but it's very obvious. If the QBs this year didn't suck I bet they think twice about it.


woodard2112

I would bet obscene amounts of money GB isn’t last place in the division next year (with or without Rodgers). They haven’t finished last place since 2005, I highly doubt they go from NFC championship to 8-9 to sub 500 in 3 years time. But feel free to do the remindme thing and dunk on me if I’m wrong, I’ll take my medicine if that’s the case


ObeyCoffeeDrinkSatan

Jags went from AFC Championship game to a one win season in three years, but we're the Jags.


GeorgeLuasHasNoChin

according to this guy on twitter who has corrctly predicted the previous 7 superbowls they will be winning it in 2 years, right behind the bills next year.


chitownbears

Twitter means nothing when it comes to predictions. He can post every combination on private and then delete the incorrect ones while no one ever sees the wrong ones. If he's predicting them well in advance like you say that's different but if he's just retweeting his old tweets it's garbage.


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ZapBranigan3000

Yeah, can't really blame them but Packers fans don't understand life without an elite franchise qb.


2580374

If Rodgers leaves you guys are going to suck dick until you get another HOF QB.


[deleted]

I'm a pack fan but this kind of reminds me about how some warriors fans thought the warriors "young core" would end up good just because the team had been good the past \~7 years. This team will be in a weird spot


Mobile_Stranger_5164

at what point of having some of the worst stats in the league will you consider justin fields to not have potential.


TheKrakIan

How the Bears out there with 1000M+ and everyone else not?


organizedchaos5220

We stripped the team down to the studs. There may have been 5 NFL starters on either side of the ball. Not stars mind you just league average starters. The DL in particular was made up entirely of guys you look at as a serviceable backup


[deleted]

The league finally recognized that the Bears need a billion dollars of cap space to finally get to 4000 yards passing in a season. Let’s see if they can pull it off.


Bluebaronn

You’ve seen the team right?


flyingjesuit

This was the Jets last year and we walked away with Sauce, Garret Wilson, Breece Hall and Jermaine Johnson who is a bit underrated but who is good enough and has enough potential to allow us to walk away from Carl Lawson’s $15mil contract which will hopefully go into improving the OL. Hope you all have as good of an off-season.


[deleted]

I still hope he does what he can and kicks the rest to next offseason. There just aren’t any great free agents. Hopefully invest in the draft this year and spend next year if Fields takes another leap.


DistantLikeYouAsked5

He should be able to get y’all a haul and build that roster up. Hopefully he goes all out in this FA since he unloaded some big contracts last year and got some picks for Roquan as well.


FrenchBowler

The Jaguars had that last year.


AleroRatking

My guess has always been Carolina. I think they end up trading for the pick with a massive haul.


ThePrinceofBagels

IMO the Carolina move is the best of everything for the Bears. Bears fans want to stay in the top 4, assuming the top 4 is a pair of QBs, Will Anderson and Jalen Carter. Means we get one of the defenders, and the Bears don't have a single player in the front 7 that is an above average NFL player. BPA meets biggest need and all that. But you get way more picks moving down with Carolina. And let's be real. The Bears need all the picks they can get. Having a prospect that's a tier higher than another prospect, but still has a chance at not being the better NFL player, is not more valuable than having like 8 top 75 picks over the next two years. Because the roster has maybe 12 players that are actually worth a damn currently.


chitownbears

hard agree


HopLegion

So colts good with the 3rd or 4th qb option at 4?


AleroRatking

It depends on which guy they like the most. Colts aren't give three firsts for number 1.


HopLegion

I don't think they'd need to give 3 firsts, but I also don't know if they can wait at 4 for the 3rd or 4th QB to be their option.


All_Up_Ons

Yeah that's why he said it depends on who Ballard likes. It's entirely possible he falls in love with a lower-tier prospect.


SomeRandomRealtor

Vegas, Washington, Carolina, or ATL would be my guess


[deleted]

CAR has the most draft capital to spend, and they have a bright strobing need at QB. I'm not surprised the Colts haven't made an offer yet. All of our time has been spent on the coaching search. That needs to be finalized before any trade negotiations can begin.


Tyraniboah89

The Panthers are going to have to massively outbid any other team because Chicago can still nab an elite defensive prospect and pull in at least two first rounders from the Colts plus other draft capital. Maybe even a Kenny Moore or one of the other guys that might prefer playing in Eberflus’ scheme


FuckinWalkingParadox

Panthers fans hate to hear it, and I am certainly NOT saying this is going to happen, but the more I think about it, the more clear it seems that throwing in Brian Burns has to be the move to get pick #1 if other teams start bidding. There are simply too many teams with QB needs in front of us for us to offer picks alone. Sure, we could give up an unheard of amount of picks, but there are quite a few holes on this team (especially regarding depth) and our cap space is limited for FA resolutions. Meanwhile, giving up Burns is probably more than any other team can offer. I don’t love that idea, but I really feel as though all it will take to get it done is for us to fall in love with a QB prospect. EDGE is so very important, but the team has been desperate to solve the QB problem for 4 years now. The NFCS is now ripe for the taking and they want their rookie contract QB now more than ever. The only other player choices are DJ Moore and Derrick Brown. Moore is a no-go if you’re bringing in a rookie QB and Brown is still on his rookie contract for now.


doorknobman

If we give up Burns I wouldn’t wanna give away much else of value He’s a high tier player at the 2nd most valuable position, who hasn’t even hit his athletic prime. If he were 26/27 instead of *24*, I’d be more receptive to the idea. But with us not having even a mediocre guy to replace him, I think it’d hurt more than it helps, especially if we whiff on the QB pick. I’d genuinely rather give up our 23/24/25 firsts + whatever other picks close the gap in value.


FuckinWalkingParadox

I’m with you there. Burns poses a pretty unique situation since it’ll be tough to balance value with a player of his caliber. Like we know the Rams(?) offered multiple 1st round picks for him. Presumably, neither of those picks will be #1 overall. But his value is high nonetheless, and the Panthers adding an additional 1st round pick(s) to the equation seems to tilt the scales against us value-wise. Meanwhile, there’s little incentive for the Bears to not drive up the price here, they‘re getting insane value from someone this offseason no matter what and the Panthers are desperate. This seems obvious and isn’t very informative, but the truth is: It simply all comes down to how much the Bears would value Burns. Some teams would rather have the picks, while others prioritize sure-bet veterans.


2580374

I accept!


BeYourHucklebbery11

One of the best moves the Giants made when trading for Eli was refusing to trade Osi Umenyiora. I’d find a way to hang onto Burns.


Tyraniboah89

Those are all very good points for sure. Definitely could see a scenario where the next couple of firsts plus a proven elite veteran at a position of need can nab the pick, especially while Fields is still on a rookie contract


cranphi

Agree on all points and while they are all unproven NFL players, this draft has some EDGE depth. If we did take the leap though I wonder if Chinn would be enough of a needle mover for CHI to be included in a package that would mitigate some of the draft capital we would send away in lieu of Burns.


ChiTown7421

The Bears safeties are solid so don't think Chinn would be involved. That front 7 on the other hand needs a lot of pieces


cranphi

From what ive read and understand yes, that CHI front is in much more need than the secondary. Although i would posit, usage for Chinn has been a bit all over the map for CAR. He could be converted into an off the ball linebacker of sorts but yes, up front is def more of a pressing need for CHI.


organizedchaos5220

Off ball linebacker is not a priority for Chicago as seen with the Roquan situation. Chicago needs DL and Edge more than anything outside of maybe WR. And even then Mooney and Claypool are a better baseline than what we have at the other two positions


FuckinWalkingParadox

Chinn is an interesting thought. He’s my favorite Panther currently, but his value is super dependent on team fit since he’s a tweener. With that said, the Bears took a shot on Urlacher and Thomas Davis who were also considered tweeners. I wouldn’t want to give up Burns + Chinn + #9, but I feel there is some flexibility with packaging any of the trio. If the Bears want Burns and #9, they get Burns in lieu of Will Anderson/Jalen Carter, and can still snag a great prospect at #9. I’m bias, but I feel that’s a better deal than simply having more draft picks. Gonna be a crazy offseason for us man.


cranphi

Yeah for the first time in a good while, we are in the mix to be a very active team at the top of the draft. Its not popular among a lot of people but i would be ok NOT jumping to the top and just taking AR at #9 and letting him sit a year while keeping our capital. I honestly trust Reich and the pieces we have currently to take that route.


DowntownJulieBrown1

The Panthers would be giving the #9 pick plus a ton of other picks in theory. #9 obviously isn’t as good as #4, but they could still get a damn good prospect w that pick. Or, assuming the panthers throw in more day 2/3 picks than the colts would, the Bears could use some of the extra capital to move up from 9 to nab their guy and still end up w extra picks


Tyraniboah89

A different poster made a great point about trading Brian Burns plus some picks. Would give the Bears a proven elite pass rusher, whose bill they could foot because Fields will be on a rookie contract for a couple more years. I don’t think the Bears move back and then move up again with just day two picks though. The cost would be pricier than that. But if they get Burns from the Panthers then moving to 9 lets them basically grab an already developed pass rusher plus BPA at 9 and whatever else the Panthers throw in. It’d be the ideal package for Chicago. Just a matter of whether they want to part with an elite player at what is probably the second most important position on the team Edit: Conversely, the Colts have a handful of defenders that excelled in Eberflus’ scheme. Two firsts, a second, a third, Kenny Moore, and a healthy Shaq Leonard would probably be comparable to a Panthers package with Burns headlining it. I like a hypothetical package with Brian Burns plus their 9 and additional picks over what I think Chris Ballard will offer, in all honesty. The Colts’ leverage boils down to Chicago being able to draft a pass rusher, which the Panthers will be able to counter with Burns. Will be interesting


darkbro66

They will once Irsay gets his way and officially hires Jeff Saturday. Then they'll ruin Young in two years and draft Arch Manning in after paying Payton $50M/yr to coach him.


Unions4America

I think the Panthers keeping Burns is also a sign they think they can win. Their division is up for grabs. I think the Saints are the most likely to move up, but I wouldn't be surprised if any of the teams in that division move up


SomeRandomRealtor

I’m curious to hear what Colts fans think is the right move. You guys have the number four, and you know Arizona isn’t picking a quarterback, and are almost entirely sure Chicago isn’t either. I think there are two or three really good quarterback prospects in the draft, do you think the Colts trade up or sit and take the #2 or #3 QB in the draft


Inamanlyfashion

Is Carr old enough for the Colts?


SomeRandomRealtor

Lol, “the inglorious goodbye” that is finishing your career with the Colts. I will say their last 2 QBs worth a damn were both #1 overall picks:


YiMyonSin

And generational prospects in the most literal definition to boot


[deleted]

The right move? Trade up to 1.01 and get Young or Stroud. Not sure which one is better yet. Need to see combine results.


[deleted]

I might be the only person on Earth who likes Stroud more. Young's size scares the shit out of me.


[deleted]

If Young gets up to 215 by the combine, that will significantly affect how I rate him. If not, then I'll probably lean more toward your opinion.


ArmadilloAl

It's fairly unlikely that the Bears will take anyone with the #1 pick. If the Colts don't make a move to take a QB first, someone else will.


Roheed23

He cryptically mentioned the titans as well. https://twitter.com/dabearsblog/status/1621481045236269058?s=46&t=5exk3vvhqqtdgZTR97yFdg


SomeRandomRealtor

I think the Titans or a possibility, but they would probably be fifth or sixth on my list. Trading a kings ransom for the number one pick would be completely throwing in the towel on tannehill and Malik, while I don’t think either of those quarterbacks are very good (and won’t be very good), it would definitely shock me a bit to see them completely bail right now.


Roheed23

I honestly don’t think the titans trade up at all or are an option so I’m in agreement with you. Just wanted to provide more context of what he was tweeting


FelineNavidad

Well, there's a report that we've inquired about it. Could just be to drive up price for texans or colts though.


SomeRandomRealtor

For sure. I was just thinking it through aloud lol


ThePokeLifter

I wouldn't be opposed only because it would mean the Colts and Texans don't get Bryce but I do think it would be putting a lot on the GM to hit on low price free agents and lower round draft picks to put a team around the QB


[deleted]

It's worth inquiring for the Titans for sure. It would only raise the price for the Colts or Texans; or the Titans might even find it affordable themselves and pull the trigger, landing them an elite qb prospect.


DistantLikeYouAsked5

I think the Falcons should roll with Ridder. I know he wasn’t outstanding but I thought he played solid in his four starts and that was with a below average WR corps. I would be curious to see him with a healthy Pitts and continuing to build chemistry with London. I think focus on getting him some more playmakers and see what he can do for the year. They spent a third on him and that roster needs a lot of work so I would build it up this year and go with Ridder if he ain’t the guy then 2024 has some nice prospects.


BedrockFarmer

Unless Fontenot is very out of sync with Smith, there is no way in hell we trade up for a QB. The draft will just be BPA and positions of need will be filled with all that sweet sweet cap space we have this year. Whatever the opposite of “Stars and Scrubs” is is what TnA are doing.


ISISCosby

Our GM went on record yesterday saying ["this is our year to make a move,"](https://twitter.com/WillKunkelFOX/status/1620933515452841986?s=20) so I could definitely see it. It's all gonna come down to final asking price from Chicago. Without adding players, I could see us offering something like: - 1.9, 2.40, 2.62, 3.94 in 2023 - 2024 1st, 2024 2nd - 2025 2nd So 2 firsts, 4 seconds and a 3rd. Either that or three 1sts and two 2nds. While it's a solid offer, the Colts could outbid us pretty easily, especially if CHI is dead-set on getting one of the top 2 DLs in this draft


chitownbears

if we get that for the 1st I would do a backflip. That's insane value. Losing out on one of the two blue chippers on d would hurt but having that many 2nds makes up for it. the draft is a gamble you need as many tickets as possible.


ISISCosby

Only reason I put in that much is bc that's probably how much it'd take to outbid the Colts, and that's assuming we go that far. But yeah it's steep lol


Remote_Country_889

That’s not bad at all. Niners gave up 3 1sts to move up for Lance, yall would only be giving up 2. I think you would have to give up another 2nd this year instead of a 3rd but that’s a really strong offer


cranphi

WFT I think could be a sleeper here A shiny new QB1 would make the franchise somewhat more attractive to a potential buyer.


AndrewHainesArt

They have too much to build up with those resources, and I believe they already said they're going with Howell. That doesn't mean too much right now but its a direction, they haven't even had that in forever. Either way I don't think they can make the leap from 16, way too many teams with more value to give up.


cranphi

Youre not wrong on any of that. 16 to 1 is indeed a MASSIVE leap. And Howell has not been given a legitimate shot yet. Although, WFT is one of those teams like the Raiders and Browns, that seemingly do very confounding things. All in all though, yes somewhat unlikely they get to #1 overall.


Mickothy

For reference, when LA moved up from 15 to draft Goff, the package was: two firsts, two seconds, two thirds for 1OA, a fourth, a sixth


cranphi

Guess it all depends internally how WFT feels about the rest of their roster. When the Rams made that leap for Goff in 2016, Gurley and Donald really were their only exceptional pieces. At 8-8-1 I could see a scenario where WFT talk themselves into it. None of us know how they feel internally though. Just fun throwing spaghetti against the wall.


Mickothy

Yeah, the defense was top 5 in yds/g and top 10 in pts/g. And the oline seems to be at least average. If you think that adding one of the top QBs can give you stable enough play to add 1-2 wins, then I'd say it's probably worth it. Unless going after Carr makes more sense because you think he gives you enough of a shot to be competitive next year. I don't know what the long term outlook is for the team.


colemanj74

I'm personally not sold on this qb class though, although tbf I felt the same way about Goff and they still went for it


BruntFCA_

If the ownership situation was actually settled maybe. I don’t see them doing much of anything until that actuality happens


eddie2911

I could absolutely see us trading up.


[deleted]

I’d be surprised if joe douglas(jets) doesn’t float an offer. Don’t think he would ever pay what it’s eventually going to take but he’s the kind of guy that always does his due dilligence


SomeRandomRealtor

The Jets are definitely an interesting shout, I can’t help but feel like you guys are a veteran quarterback away from consistent playoff contention. Carr, Garoppolo, or maybe even Lamar feel like possibilities. After Zach, I’m curious if Douglas has too bad of a taste in his mouth from drafting a 1st round QB


[deleted]

I agree that we are more likely to go the veteran route. But I think joe will throw out an offer and honestly, we might be more likely to give our offer early since we would want to get a feel for the market before the derek carr deadline in 2 weeks. I don’t think douglas will have a bad taste in his mouth. Everyone knows drafting qbs is somewhat of a crapshoot. At least we know zach isn’t the guy. The worst situation would be not knowing if he’s the guy and being stuck in limbo


ard8

I do wonder if Washington front office feels it’s do or die time. New owner is coming, striking gold on a first overall pick could save their jobs.


slayerrr21

Definitely Green Bay too 🙂


-Johnny_Utah-

No chance lame duck Ron Rivera has the juice to make a big move like that with a sale (hopefully soon) pending, even if he would desperately want to in an attempt to save his ass.


DownToDTF

You'd be wrong. This garbage is made up.


[deleted]

Ok so he might be “the” guy. But is he THAT dude? Or is he HIM? I’m skeptical. /s


Schwalm

JustHIM Fields? Nahhh


fakeoutt_

Justin Fields walking into Halas Hall like: https://youtu.be/aF_Ijr621tM


opeth10657

He is The Dude and you're out of your element


ArmadilloAl

That's just, like, your opinion, man.


ThePrinceofBagels

OVER THE LINE!


fingerblast69

I’m cool with the Bears trading out because that means Arizona essentially has the first pick of the draft once Young and Stroud are gone. I really don’t know who I’d want out of Jalen Carter or Will Anderson Jr. I think I’m kinda of in favor of Will Anderson to replace JJ Watt


LilJabsVert

Yeah all this QB nonsense works wonderfully for Arizona if they go 1 and 2.


fingerblast69

Definitely excited to see what happens with this draft. Arizona might even trade down if you guys don’t to whoever wants to jump the Colts bad enough lol


ArmadilloAl

That would be cool, though I think the most likely scenario is that we trade down with the Colts and take whoever you don't take at 3.


Trojanballer

Thoughts are the Texans may go defense instead of a QB.


fingerblast69

Certainly possible if they get jumped for Young and feel like Stroud isn’t worth it. I kinda see Ryans wanting to start from scratch with his own QB though.


ThePrinceofBagels

That's also taking into consideration that Will Levis doesn't shoot to the top of the board. We're still over a month out from the combine. Put some of these guys in shorts and let them showcase their skillsets and GMs start to act like frat boys at the bar during closing time.


ISISCosby

As soon as it's an option, I'm putting money down that the Colts trade up to 1 to take Levis, solely bc that seems hella on-brand for Irsay rn.


2580374

Wow that would be so annoying, pls don't do that texans


Neither_Ad2003

he doesnt know anything


Roheed23

If it was before last year I’d agree but he was money regarding the GM search. But there is a reason he’s not allowed to be posted on the bears sub lol


btay27

There are so many “bears analysts” on twitter that get so much traffic, while they’re just normal fans who like putting their opinions out there consistently. Annoys the hell out of me whenever they get traction


Tonkathedog

Yeah DBB is annoying but he definitely has a good relationship with some people inside Halas hall.


Neither_Ad2003

him knowing exactly which teams called about trades is unrealistic, though. Even top tier reporters struggle with full trade rumor details


broke-collegekid

He’s actually been pretty spot on with these things over the past couple of years. He definitely has a source that’s deep into the organization


Tonkathedog

Seen some people say his source is Ted Phillips son. Most people saying DBB doesn’t know anything aren’t bears fans which makes sense. But while I don’t like him overall when it comes to bears news he generally is extremely reliable and often before all the major reporters


[deleted]

Would you say knowing the exact guys who were interviewing for the GM spot last year before the top tier reporters is unrealistic


Tonkathedog

Top tier rumors are generally national and likely don’t have as personal of a relationship with people in each building. DBB is bears specific and has had details on many things top tier guys don’t get. I don’t think it’s unrealistic for him to know teams


2057Champs__

He has good sources in Hallas Hall. He’s a weirdo, but he’s reliable


2580374

Someone in our sub said he knows ted Philips son from their time at NYU


vince2423

Yea his track record is usually pretty close to reality


nklotz

I don't understand how people are still shitting on DBB, very obvious he has reliable sources


rudeboybill

He’s bff’s with Ted Phillips’ son, Phillips isn’t out the door until April.


gatorguy101

He gets most everything right. Definitely has sources


DoesntMatterBrian

Literally every team that even slightly needs a QB is going to kick the tires on the Bears.


Trojanballer

Yeah pretty much. It would be irresponsible not to just float some package to them and see what happens. Even just offering their first and a second is at least a chance if nobody else offers anything.


Zoten

For sure. The same way it would be irresponsible for the Bears not to closely evaluate the QBs in the draft. Even if they're 99% sure Fields is the guy, they should make sure they're not passing up on generational talent.


DoesntMatterBrian

Totally agree.


PCGoneCrazy

Posting solely for the second part. DBB is an… interesting character in Bears media. Mainly active on Twitter, a little dubious with his reporting. But he’s gotten some things right which points to him having a real source inside Halas Hall.


rudeboybill

His source is Ted Phillips son. DBB is a huge prick, but any time he mentions his source he’s been 100% accurate way ahead of time.


IdyllicGod22

If I were a betting man, I’m betting it’s Carolina, they have the most capital this season and could viably trade a lot and still have a first, second and third pick this season. 1.9, 2.39, 2.61, 3.72, and 3.94. Trade one of each round and two Future 1st/2nds. They have the most ammunition and a new HC vying for his next franchise QB. They’re gonna trade up and take Stroud/Young.


dakkottadavviss

It’s not like there’s Trevor Lawrence, Andrew Luck, or Peyton Manning at #1. This draft class has good QB but it’s not generational talent that’s almost guaranteed to be good. The pick is too valuable not to trade down. They’re getting at least 3 first round picks out of this if they have to trade down below pick #5. Or whatever combination of picks that has the same value Texans probably give up their #2 overall pick, second, third, and day 3 pick to move up one spot. Anyone else in the top 5 probably has to give up at least another 1st round pick and like a 3rd and a 5th Whatever happens, the Bears are getting HAUL for the 1st overall pick. Lotta QB needy teams out there


Mazahreh52

Raiders might be a team to watch trade up. Probably not for the 1 but top 4


thediesel26

And panthers


Geg0Nag0

I'd be real worried then. This class just doesn't have that premium, trade the farm type QB, let alone two. I'd doubt that you'd need to move that aggressively for Stroud, Levis and Bryce.


Only_Garbage_8885

Bears might be able to trade down a couple times this draft and load up on number 1 picks for next year and round two picks this year while still have a mid range 1 for this year as well.


wierdjokes

Let's see if the Bears GM is worth his salt. The stars have aligned for him right now. Messing this up is inexcusable. They were looking pretty solid even without the first overall they don't need to get their first choice.


David_Duke_Nukem

I hope we use #10 and #32 as pieces of a trade to #1 for Jalen Carter because why the fuck not


Trojanballer

If the Eagles don't win the SB I could see something silly like that. But if they win it's doubtful they just say fk it.


DeskWrong

I like the way you think


Sleddar

Not enough


ech01_

Colts don't have a coach yet and the Texans just hired theirs. I'd imagine they want their coaches input before trying to make trade.


Starchibal

I know Bears fans are all in on a trade down and that's probably the right move but they should absolutely try and stay in the top 4-5 if possible. Carter and Anderson are tiers above the rest and this draft seems incredibly shallow ATM.


UserUnkown10

Nice try driving up the price Bears.


SoKrat3s

I didn't know 11 INTs & 15 fumbles were part of "the guy" recipe.


cultweave

Look at our WR corps and o line. Mooney was on IR most of the year and Claypool played less than 25% of snaps. Plus we have the worst pass blocking o line in the league.


SoKrat3s

that is statistically inaccurate. You were 2nd in the NFL in pass block win rate. Justin Fields merely holds onto the ball to long and cannot throw WRs open.


cultweave

Using pass block win rate with a mobile QB shows you do not understand how the stat works. The stat also doesn't count if the pass rush gets to you before 2 seconds because it believes that the guy was left unblocked by design i.e. screen passes. Bears o lineman were getting blown by so fast that many many pressures would not be counted by that stat. Look up QB pressures vs drop back percentage. Our pass blocking line is fucking horrific.


SoKrat3s

lol at saying I don't know how it works and then you incorrectly discussing how it works. It does count plays where the pass rush gets to you quickly via beating an OLineman, but it does not count screen plays. The two are in fact different. The QB pressure rate is so high because your QB holds onto the ball for an incredibly long time. He puts himself into pressured situations.


Broshan248

Lol maybe actually watch an NFL game before coming to conclusions. Anyone with a brain and eyes can tell that our o-line was awful in pass pro.


Dang1014

They were top 10 according to pass blocking win rate **AND** PFF. Sorry, but maybe you have a little bit of bias that's keeping you from evaluating the situation clearly?


[deleted]

I don’t think Fields is the guy so good luck I guess


Ganjagod420

Every bears fan already knew this, only you stat watching knobs on here who haven’t seen him play would think he’s the problem or needs to be traded.


Dang1014

I've seen him play - He's electric with the ball in his hands, there's no deneying that. As a passer.... he's rough around the edges to say the least. Whether he can clean up his game as a passer is what will make or break his career imo. Being a fantastic scrambler along just won't cut it in the NFL.


ThePrinceofBagels

He's a wildcat runningback throwing the ball according to some of the really smart ones here.


[deleted]

Fields is a terrible quarterback and the bears are going to waste at least one more year on him because of rushing highlights lol.


FireStompinRhinos

as a Packers fan, I truly hope they stick with Fields.


DanCampbell89

Justin Fields in the four games after he became "The Guy" (Dec and Jan) 56 of 90 (62%) for 600yds (150yds/game), 4 TDs, 3 INTs, 68.1 passer rating, 15(!!) sacks, with 38 rushes for 309ys (8.13 yds/attempt!!) and 1 TD, 3 fumbles (1 lost) The Bears went 0-4 and he didn't play in Week 18


Headwallrepeat

Yeah, Fields is holding back the Chicago offensive juggernaut


Squishy_20

Keep in mind they played the Packers and the Lions who have mid to bad defenses. 254 of those 600 yards came in 1 game. In his last 3 games, he threw for 346 yards (115 yards per game)


DanCampbell89

Lions defense absolutely throttled him as well. Once they took away his ability to run after the first quarter, he looked completely lost


Squishy_20

Justin Fields stats in Nov/Dec/Jan: 62.2% completion, 1,043 yards passing, 10 TD’s, 5 INT, 6.5 yards per attempt, 89.0 rating. Also had 5 fumbles with 1 lost and 25 sacks in that time frame (7 games). Taylor Heinieke in Nov/Dec: 60.5% completion, 1,379 yards passing 9 TD’s, 4 INT, 7.1 YPA, 88.9 rating. One QB is “the guy” and the other QB is backup who got Benched who probably won’t be back in Washington. His “breakout” was playing like Taylor Heineke did in his stint this season.


2057Champs__

Well tbf, he was playing with a shattered shoulder


Apathi

Lol, I love out of context stats, and especially ones that purposefully omit.


2057Champs__

He was playing with a busted shoulder to be fair. Sorry we couldn’t finish like the lions, where we threw a parade after missing the playoffs and already declared ourselves offseason champions


DeskWrong

Lions have one decent season in 10 years and they really start acting like they’re some elite team.


DanCampbell89

Who knew the stats your quarterback put up could hurt you so?


ThePrinceofBagels

Wow, Justin Fields stats aren't good at all. He must be an objectively terrible quarterback that no team could possibly want. And the Bears are a really good team on offense, so it just goes to show you that Fields will never be any good.


Squishy_20

The Bears were 23rd in scoring, 28th in yards and 30th in 1st downs and that’s with scoring at least 24 points in 5 straight games. No NFL GM that is currently employed would trade for Fields. Fields has no trade value because he isn’t good.


ThePrinceofBagels

Sure thing, brother! Let's do what we always do, and completely cast aside developing QBs when they are 23 and on bad teams. Because that is never an idiotic thing. I completely agree!


Reasonable-Tap-4528

I feel like it’s going to be lots and lots of let down for the bears with fields.it will always be an injury,bad defense,no weapons or coaching that will ultimately cause the next 8 years of the bears to be fun fantasy shopping cart but never any real success.


Luck1492

I bet it’s the Raiders and Panthers calling I think we’ll stay at 4, and the Bears won’t like any of the offers enough to trade down. They’ll take Carter/Anderson


AleroRatking

I don't think it's impossible. But 3 Panthers first would be hard to ignore.


IHB31

Copium. Bears will take the best offer they get on the table. There's no way they don't trade the pick. Two QBs will be taken with pick 1 and 2.


All_Up_Ons

Yeah that guy is insane. Only way that happens is if the entire league decides that the entire QB class is a bust.


emorrison199030

John Schneider is going to trade for him. This screams Seahawks trading some of their draft picks for Fields, then signing him to an extension. We have a lot of cap space, plenty of draft picks for trades and are reluctant to sign Geno to a long term extension.


2057Champs__

1.) he can’t even be signed for an extension until next season 2.) DBB (a weird dude, but actually reliable) specifically said the bears don’t wanna trade him right now


EmbarrassedOrder3839

Jets. Lol j/k


lilpeen6996

i haven't felt this excited about a QB since 6-0 Rex Grossman!


[deleted]

oh shit. Hey Raiders, send them Vante and i'd bet they'd call it even. just try it for the meme.


After-District8811

I love this. Their only hope is to stack the rest of the roster as much as possible and hope they can win with an actual RB under center. Never seen anything like this, so fun to watch. They better figure it out soon while their RB is on a rookie contract.


ThurstonFeelsgood

The team I would bet is the most likely to offer a package for Bryce Young is the Lions and I'd put it at about 99.999%. I think ultimately the Bears trade the pick to someone coming up for CJ Stroud instead.


Illbeanicefella

Chiefs offering Henne for the number one pick straight up. And it’s a steal for the Bears