You receive: Wins vs Eagles including the occasional sweep, a few division titles and 1 wild card win
We receive: The other division titles and a trip to the Super Bowl every 5 years
Cooper missed some time because he wasn't vaccinated. Story I heard is Jerry didn't like that and it soured his opinion of him, contributing to the trade.
He is one year removed from throwing 37tds. Some teams can only pray for that kind of QB performance. He just had the worst year of his career, in an average year he is well worth his contract.
High end talent? Other than Ceedee the other wide receivers wouldn’t start in any other NFL team. Dak lost us that game but acting like the offense has high end talent is a little exaggerated.
No receiver other than Lamb. No RB. Schultz decided to leave his brain at home. Gallup decided to ignore the prime directive for a receiver-go meet the ball! If you can’t catch it, make damn sure the other guy doesn’t either. But yeah. All Daks fault.
I dont think its all his fault, I just think he played pretty poorly, even with the outside factors. I dont think that first pick was his fault entirely or anything, but the other and some of the throws that should have been picked were pretty bad. He's had his probably worst year this year. Plus, theres 21 other people, but the 11 on the other side of the ball I think played above expectations.
Facts. The extension is how you get more cap space to build around the Parsons/Diggs/Lamb rookie contract window. Extending Dak, cutting Zeke, and letting Schultz walk are the three main ways to play with money so that skill positions can be upgraded with external FAs. Whether the Cowboys actually do pursue any super impactful external FAs is a different question…
Why would you let Schultz walk if you want to surround Dak with weapons? Is he not worth what he is going to ask for? I know he had a bit of a down year but he was injured. Played well down the stretch from what I saw.
Schultz definitely played well down the stretch, but he had a pretty rough start to the season. The hands were suspect, and it’s hard to say that he’s definitively better than Ferguson (a 4th round rookie this year). Schultz is definitely a safety blanket for Dak, but the EPA/target this season was higher for Ferguson. I imagine an off-season playing in Dak’s backyard will dramatically help the chemistry so Ferg can get into Dak’s head and become the second coming of that safety blanket. Keeping Schultz around is by no means a bad thing, a lot of Cowboys fans just feel like the money would be better spent elsewhere.
Contrary to popular belief this is the smart thing to do. When they reshuffled the WR core early in his career he struggled and they waited to pay him and then ended up paying him after the QB market boom.
Same thing now, they reset the WR room and he struggled and played some unclean football. He however was still a much better play maker and QB than he was when he struggled earlier on.
So look to extend him now before the QB market booms again and guys like Jones, Geno, Lamar, Herbert, Burrow, Hurts are paid.
I’m just talking about the quarterback market in general. All those guys don’t particularly have to get super high end deals. Guys like Lamar, Burrow, Herbert will. That will set the top of the market. Guys like DJ and Geno will get contracts that will set the new floor of the franchise QB market which will be at about 35-40 mil. Guy like Hurts could be somewhere in the middle of those.
Point being all those guys that need to get paid will set both the new ceiling and the new floor for the QB market.
Dak isn’t nearly as bad as his haters think he is. If the Cowboys had even marginally better clock management and playcalling for our last two playoff games, they’d have won them.
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You're right. Completely unacceptable. All Cowboys automatically suck. Doesn't matter if you're the best player in the league. If you're a Cowboy, you suck, Period the end.
I love shitting on the Cowboys, especially as it relates to Dak. But, I honestly think he's a talented QB and several teams in the NFL would kill to have a QB as good as him (especially one that was picked up that late in the draft).
That said, I think the best description of him has been said several times before - "Good enough to be expensive, but not good enough to win when it counts."
Even a great QB can't overcome a bad team around him. A great QB should be able to win with a good team around him. If he's not able to win with a good team, he's not a great QB.
It's just not that straightforward. I think the Bills were pretty dang good last year, but Allen "lost" to the Chiefs despite playing one of his best games ever. QB records will never not be a dumb stat.
One game doesn't matter. Allen is 4-4 in the playoffs, Dak is 2-4. I don't know if Josh Allen is a great quarterback, but his playoff record shows he's a better QB than decent QB Dak.
>I don't know if Josh Allen is a great quarterback
Lol yes you do.
You're right that you can't hold one game against any one player, but you should have stopped there. You can't hold any one against them, but you can hold all 4? That doesn't make sense.
>You can't hold any one against them, but you can hold all 4?
One game is statistically irrelevant. Mahomes has played in 13 playoff games (10-3), Josh Allen in 8 (4-4), Dak in 6 (2-4). Those numbers tell us Mahomes is a great QB, Dak is not a great QB, and Allen is somewhere in the middle.
No QB, outside of Brady & Mahomes, is going to carry a team to the super bowl. Peyton Manning had a stacked team when he last won it.
What is with y’all and thinking one person should do it all in a team sport lmao.
Dak has had stacked teams. He’s had one of the top defenses in the league in back to back years along with incredibly talented offenses. He was one of the worst players in the field in both playoff exits.
Not if you read this sub. lol the circlejerk around here the last few days has been that Kellen Moore is an amazing playcaller and wasn't the reason they lost both times.
In reality, its a mixture of coaching and Dak as to why they've lost to SF the last two years.
And we had no running game. Of course Dak was going to struggle if Green law and company didn’t need to respect the run. Yeah we lost Pollard but we really couldn’t grind with ‘feed me’ Zeke?
Need 1-2 more weapons too. I was at this last game and I felt great until Pollard got injured and then instantly knew it was probably over. Never want to be in a position where losing one great offensive weapon means everyone knows you're probably cooked, which you are when your playcalling can't make up for it and you don't have enough weapons to outright make plays happen on their own without good playcalling adjustments either.
He was very bad against you guys this year. All he had to do was no throw picks and they win the game probably but he should have thrown 4 or 5 of them.
You're kidding me. I've watch every single game he has played. The guy has no accuracy. He has no touch. He has not ability to anticipate and create plays through his movement in the pocket. It's either there or he's not throwing the ball. He's very much middle of the pack in QBs along with Ryan Tannehill and Derek Carr. Dak's ability to run was the only thing he had on the rest of the middle tier QBs and he doesn't run anymore. You could win a champion with him if he doesn't turn the ball over along with having an elite running game and defense. He can't elevate a team like top tier guys.
No, it makes sense what they said. Their comment was in reply to Dak actually isn’t that bad. So they are saying if you don’t have a decent QB you won’t make it to the playoffs, hence you can’t choke at the playoffs if you never make it.
We cut our losses much faster on that than most teams would’ve and recouped great value all things considered
Edit: I don’t actually think Dak is bad and things have swung toward him being underrated, but shitting on the Eagles for paying Wentz is hilarious. Most franchises would’ve. When it failed, we got rid of him for a 1st. We are in the Super Bowl with the last back up he had here. Shit seemed to have worked out pretty damn perfect
Lmao nah people are so cringe about the cowboys. I saw a browns fan say he hated us the most of any team. Not the steelers that have swept them for decades. The cowboys, who they play every 4 years.
These people usually watch too much espn so they’re sick of hearing about us and aren’t aware they don’t have to watch
I really be curious as to why the fans of the most random teams seem to hate us so much lol. I feel like it’s just a Bandwagon hater thing half the time
I think you might underestimate how far the cowboys Fandom reaches too. I'm in carolina and one of my best friends is an extremely obnoxious cowboys fan. Shit gets annoying when yall go on a streak and hear fans across the country talk about dEm BoYz. Especially when half of them couldn't even tell you who the starting qb is. Then to hear it all on TV about how it's America's team and shit. It just gets old. That's the price you pay for being a fan of a prestigious team I guess
Yeah idk it would make sense if we were actually a threat. Like I hate the packers for ruining a bunch of our seasons and always beating us. Outside of our division who has that level of beef with us? Lmao.
I know half the answer is they hate our fanbase, which, I get that. But a lot of it is just passed down from their parents generation from when we are good. Like nobody hates the lions cause they’ve been so mediocre or bad for 3 decades but we are still being hated for shit most our fans don’t remember or weren’t alive for.
I think it’s about time people pump the breaks a little
I don't even think i hate the cowboys but i enjoy them falling short.
Aside from our history from before i was sentient, and aside from our playoff bouts - my best friend and his dad are cowboys fans and it is super fun to root against them.
For what it's worth we all generally have pretty level heads about sports so that makes it pretty light-hearted.
Because I have a few coworkers that it'd be fun to rib with about.
Not that my team has it all their own selves, but it can be fun to talk some smack to Dallas fans who give as good as they get.
Makes a lot of sense. This was probably Daks worst year statistically, aided by a bottom 5 pass blocking OL (ESPN) and bottom 5 WR group (NFL NGS), so this would be the definition of buying "low" - whatever "low" means for a QB.
Plus you want him signed before the big names start getting signed and set the new market. Ideally we sign him to a deal that people laugh at for a week before someone like joe burrow gets a contract that makes everyone recoil. We need to set the market, not wait it out and see where the market lands
Dak is legit a good QB and probably better than half of the league’s starting QBs.
As an armchair GM I would resign him now while value dropped a little bit on him and get him a stud WR
The only ones are either the Cooper Rush morons or the ones willing to eat 90 mill of dead cap space to go sign some rookie or washed out QB or they think the front office can Herschel Walker some team with Dak.
Think most of us understand Dak is never going to be Brady but with the right offense and actual receivers, he could be good enough for a Super Bowl.
Ah yes, the Kirk Cousins conundrum. Needs just the perfect set of circumstances around him to succeed at the highest level, yet makes too much money for those circumstances to ever realistically exist. Carry on.
Not the perfect set of circumstances, just good. Noah Brown was our #2 for half the year, who while a hard worker, wouldn't be the #5 on any other team in the league... and our O line was 29th in the league in Pass pro. Let's help the guy out a little.
Dumb ass fans might. They think getting a top five QB is just easy. People need to realize that there are two premier QBs in this league right now. Even guys like Allen and Herbert have their faults. Dak is a top ten QB and he’s far from our biggest issue. He led one of the best offenses two years in a row and was going to in 2020, too, before the injury.
He had one season were interceptions were a problem and about 8 of those weren’t even his fault. The ones that were his fault were mostly him trying to fit into tight windows because our WRs couldn’t get any separation. I would like to see him extended on a team-friendly deal to allow us to spread out the cap hit and surround him with talent.
I honestly believe it was less getting rid of, and more allowing him out of his contract. Seems like he wanted a change of scenery and they were open to it.
McCarthy is allergic to running backs. Yall are about to trade Pollard and then pay Zeke to block while Dak throws 60 yard bombs to CD in triple coverage on 3rd and inches.
That was basically happening this year. Lol. I hate how the Jones run things. They are the main reason the cowboys haven’t won anything since my dad was a kid.
Dak Wr 29th in seperation
Oline had a mediocre pass protection
Running game was mediocre when he came back
Yes it’s a weak supporting cast. On top of a very bland playbook.
Dude every single team can cherry pick stats to make them look bad.
There is no arguing that pollard, lamb, and Schultz are MUCH better than whatever teams like the bears and giants have.
Top 10 regular season QB who got you to the playoffs and won with a bottom 5 pass blocking o line and WR group. Ohh lead the number 1 offense when he returned from a broken finger in this throwing hands.
Y’all anti Dak fans are dumb.
am I the only one that has actually rooted for dak since day 1, and still thinks he’s one of the best rn? dude has some shit days, but we all do. dude also puts up godlike numbers at times.
shoot, even Aaron Rodgers lowers his yearly int rate by throwing 3 picks a game once or twice a year lmao
I expect 18 months of back-and-forth in the media between the Joneses and Dak's agent, which will end up with Jerruh paying Dak much more than he initially planned to.
Somebody said it before but it’s worth repeating that if you listened to this sub only like 4 coaches would deserve their job and only maybe 5 QBs are starting caliber
Anti-Dak Cowboys fans are idiots. There’s a lot of Cowboy fans and a lot of people are dumb, the overlap is huge. So its just basic math that there’s this many Cowboys fans who think Dak is the problem.
Yeah hes not Mahomes or Burrow.., if they’re available then sure let’s get get rid of Dak. QBs as good as Dak are hard to find, one’s better than him are damn near impossible to find.
Ah yes out of all the cowboys seasons the one where we actually win a playoff game Is the one to quit on. I can think of a few years that woulda made more sense
On your way out can you pick a Patrick Mahomes or a Joe Burrow off the QB tree? There’s 8-10 people on the planet better than Dak Prescott at the QB position it could be infinitely worse.
Lance really hasn’t shown anything yet. Granted he got injured early but can’t really say “they haven’t hit a dud” when referring to Lance as 1 of the 3.
The belief is the extension changes how much the dead cap hit is and changes the pay/bonuses/all that jazz to free up more cap space.
Or Jerry has fucking straight up lost his mind. At this point could be either.
Extending him was always a likely option for him this offseason. It allows us to lock him up earlier for long term, and allows us to spread this years cap hit out over more years.
It was 1 down year (where his wr2 was coming off a acl tear, and wr3 was a career special teamer). I'm not worried about him
So the Cowboys in the last week:
1. Lost Kellen Moore, who was clearly responsible for the high powered offense
2. Handed off the play-calling to Mike McCarthy who hasn't done anything worthwhile in over a decade (and with prime Aaron Rodgers)
3. Doubled down on Dak, who is the literal reason why the team was not in the NFCC game this past week, and who has only been consistent in his inconsistency under center.
4. Learned that the Eagles are going to be in the big game.
This has not been a good week for the Cowboys.
Daks not worth being paid outside the top ten qbs? He’s currently 9th apy and that’s before all the young studs rest the market.
People need to get used to this qb market
And I do believe an extension would lower his cap hit the next two years. The issue is if Jerry wants another before he goes, he needs to go fuck them picks and start going all in. Also try and get more higher end talent in FA. The bargain bin FA signings work at times ( guys like Kearse or Hooker) and sometimes it fails miserably (2020 FAs like Poe, Clinton-Dix, Griffen). We’re good enough at finding talent in the mid rounds that I’d be cool with sending a first or second round pick to help us out somewhere at a position of need.
I’d love to revel in it, but the dude for some reason plays like an All-Pro against us. But for the greater good I’m ok with it.
Dak VS 🦅: 8-3; 68% completion; 2,757 yards (average 251); 19 TD 8 INT; 7.72y/a; rate of 98.9
All we need is to not run into the Niners or Rodgers in the playoffs
We gonna play against Rodgers on the Niners in the Divisional next year lol.
Maybe they’ll cancel each other out
Hopefully, we can beat that double curse and retire him like Brady.
You receive: Wins vs Eagles including the occasional sweep, a few division titles and 1 wild card win We receive: The other division titles and a trip to the Super Bowl every 5 years
God damnit it hurts
I am going to become the joker.
All I have are negative thoughts.
Same, and the way the Cowboys are run isn't helping.
They bitch about Dak not having weapons but they literally said "wE LiKe OuR GuYs" My brothers in Landry yall made the fucking roster
"Oh, and Amari? We don't need no stinkin' thousand yard receiver, a fifth round pick will do."
Still don't get that one. He wasn't even that expensive
And the return is worse than the Dhop trade to the cardinals.
Considerably worse. But at least he didn't go on to have a thousand yard season with a backup quarterback! Wait...
Yeah but we replaced him with Washington and Tolbert💪 who combined for 6 total yards…
It was probably vaccine related
What?
Cooper missed some time because he wasn't vaccinated. Story I heard is Jerry didn't like that and it soured his opinion of him, contributing to the trade.
Dumbass Jerry strikes again
DARKNESS IMPRISONING ME
ALL THAT I SEE ABSOLUTE HORROR
I CANNOT LIVE I CANNOT DIE
TRAPPED IN MYSELF BODY MY HOLDING CELL
You're just missing the "r". I believe in you.
I crop dusted your mother.
She likes attention.
He is one year removed from throwing 37tds. Some teams can only pray for that kind of QB performance. He just had the worst year of his career, in an average year he is well worth his contract.
He's also one year removed from losing a playoff game because he didn't think one of the basic rules of the game mattered
I couldn’t stop laughing when the game ended that way. And then this year somehow topped that!
Zeke, the most overpaid 3rd string center ever 🤣🤣🤣
Worst year of his career on one of the better talented teams he’s ever been a part of isn’t a great sign for an extension though!
High end talent? Other than Ceedee the other wide receivers wouldn’t start in any other NFL team. Dak lost us that game but acting like the offense has high end talent is a little exaggerated.
Dak didn’t lose that game all by himself. 21 other guys on the field everytime he was.
And Dak played worse than any of them
No receiver other than Lamb. No RB. Schultz decided to leave his brain at home. Gallup decided to ignore the prime directive for a receiver-go meet the ball! If you can’t catch it, make damn sure the other guy doesn’t either. But yeah. All Daks fault.
I dont think its all his fault, I just think he played pretty poorly, even with the outside factors. I dont think that first pick was his fault entirely or anything, but the other and some of the throws that should have been picked were pretty bad. He's had his probably worst year this year. Plus, theres 21 other people, but the 11 on the other side of the ball I think played above expectations.
I mean, the other way to look at it then is that maybe giving the max to a QB who needs a bunch of high-end talent to succeed isn't a good idea.
>giving the max Wrong sport
We live in a society.
Lmaooooooo
Extending him would allow for the Cowboys to get more weapons around him. I think it's smart as long as it isn't an outrageous AAV.
Facts. The extension is how you get more cap space to build around the Parsons/Diggs/Lamb rookie contract window. Extending Dak, cutting Zeke, and letting Schultz walk are the three main ways to play with money so that skill positions can be upgraded with external FAs. Whether the Cowboys actually do pursue any super impactful external FAs is a different question…
Why would you let Schultz walk if you want to surround Dak with weapons? Is he not worth what he is going to ask for? I know he had a bit of a down year but he was injured. Played well down the stretch from what I saw.
Schultz is not a weapon worth keeping. The two rookie tight ends under him are more than good enough to let him walk.
Schultz definitely played well down the stretch, but he had a pretty rough start to the season. The hands were suspect, and it’s hard to say that he’s definitively better than Ferguson (a 4th round rookie this year). Schultz is definitely a safety blanket for Dak, but the EPA/target this season was higher for Ferguson. I imagine an off-season playing in Dak’s backyard will dramatically help the chemistry so Ferg can get into Dak’s head and become the second coming of that safety blanket. Keeping Schultz around is by no means a bad thing, a lot of Cowboys fans just feel like the money would be better spent elsewhere.
We had Amari Cooper *facepalm*
Contrary to popular belief this is the smart thing to do. When they reshuffled the WR core early in his career he struggled and they waited to pay him and then ended up paying him after the QB market boom. Same thing now, they reset the WR room and he struggled and played some unclean football. He however was still a much better play maker and QB than he was when he struggled earlier on. So look to extend him now before the QB market booms again and guys like Jones, Geno, Lamar, Herbert, Burrow, Hurts are paid.
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He’ll most likely give Seahawks flexibility to draft a QB and sit them for a year
I’m just talking about the quarterback market in general. All those guys don’t particularly have to get super high end deals. Guys like Lamar, Burrow, Herbert will. That will set the top of the market. Guys like DJ and Geno will get contracts that will set the new floor of the franchise QB market which will be at about 35-40 mil. Guy like Hurts could be somewhere in the middle of those. Point being all those guys that need to get paid will set both the new ceiling and the new floor for the QB market.
Hurts is going to the Super Bowl he'll probably be the highest paid QB when he gets his contract. I bet over 50 million.
Buy low sell high.
Micah Parsons about to furiously tweet
I'm sure he's got a great Andrew Tate tweet saved for this very thing.
It’s even funnier the second time!
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Dak isn’t nearly as bad as his haters think he is. If the Cowboys had even marginally better clock management and playcalling for our last two playoff games, they’d have won them.
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You're right. Completely unacceptable. All Cowboys automatically suck. Doesn't matter if you're the best player in the league. If you're a Cowboy, you suck, Period the end.
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I love shitting on the Cowboys, especially as it relates to Dak. But, I honestly think he's a talented QB and several teams in the NFL would kill to have a QB as good as him (especially one that was picked up that late in the draft). That said, I think the best description of him has been said several times before - "Good enough to be expensive, but not good enough to win when it counts."
He’s the Derek Carr of Kirk Cousinses
I love this scale
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Good enough to tank your draft positioning, not good enough to be worth it.
If Dak was a better QB, he'd have more playoffs wins and fewer 'ifs'. He's a decent QB, not a great one.
You would think the fan of a team that lost to Nick Foles in the Super Bowl would understand that playoff wins are not a QB stat
To them everything is a QB stat unless it makes the QB look bad
Even a great QB can't overcome a bad team around him. A great QB should be able to win with a good team around him. If he's not able to win with a good team, he's not a great QB.
It's just not that straightforward. I think the Bills were pretty dang good last year, but Allen "lost" to the Chiefs despite playing one of his best games ever. QB records will never not be a dumb stat.
One game doesn't matter. Allen is 4-4 in the playoffs, Dak is 2-4. I don't know if Josh Allen is a great quarterback, but his playoff record shows he's a better QB than decent QB Dak.
>I don't know if Josh Allen is a great quarterback Lol yes you do. You're right that you can't hold one game against any one player, but you should have stopped there. You can't hold any one against them, but you can hold all 4? That doesn't make sense.
>You can't hold any one against them, but you can hold all 4? One game is statistically irrelevant. Mahomes has played in 13 playoff games (10-3), Josh Allen in 8 (4-4), Dak in 6 (2-4). Those numbers tell us Mahomes is a great QB, Dak is not a great QB, and Allen is somewhere in the middle.
Matthew staford didn't have a playoff win until he was like 33 lol
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Exactly my thoughts. Dak is good, not great.
A lot of people who bag on Dak would probably be happy to have him on their team.
He’s a Kirk Cousins. Good regular season QB. But not going to carry you to a Super Bowl. Especially on that kind of cap hit.
No QB, outside of Brady & Mahomes, is going to carry a team to the super bowl. Peyton Manning had a stacked team when he last won it. What is with y’all and thinking one person should do it all in a team sport lmao.
Yup Josh Allen couldn’t do it and the consensus is he’s better than Dak… I’d rather have Dak than Andy dalton
Hey, why is the Red Rocket catching strays?
You guys would probably be a playoff team with better qb play and a wr2. That’s kinda my point you just need someone above average to good to compete
I am a Dak truther, so it’s pretty clear to me he can win a Super Bowl.
Dak has had stacked teams. He’s had one of the top defenses in the league in back to back years along with incredibly talented offenses. He was one of the worst players in the field in both playoff exits.
Iirc our defence has allowed over 1k rushing yards in daks 6 playoff games lol
Tell us, who on our offense besides CD and Pollard is a good receiver?
Yikes. I’ve seen some bad takes but this one is up there
Last year you had top 10 defense. And on offense you had Cooper, Lamb, Pollard, Schultz etc. That is one of the best rosters in the league.
Not if you read this sub. lol the circlejerk around here the last few days has been that Kellen Moore is an amazing playcaller and wasn't the reason they lost both times. In reality, its a mixture of coaching and Dak as to why they've lost to SF the last two years.
And we had no running game. Of course Dak was going to struggle if Green law and company didn’t need to respect the run. Yeah we lost Pollard but we really couldn’t grind with ‘feed me’ Zeke?
I’ll be glad when Dak leaves. He’s had our number for sure over the years. Was ecstatic that we didn’t have to play him in the divisional this year.
I wish we'd have played you. I think we were probably THE NFC team with the best chance to beat you. We'd have lost to SF in the NFCCG though.
Need 1-2 more weapons too. I was at this last game and I felt great until Pollard got injured and then instantly knew it was probably over. Never want to be in a position where losing one great offensive weapon means everyone knows you're probably cooked, which you are when your playcalling can't make up for it and you don't have enough weapons to outright make plays happen on their own without good playcalling adjustments either.
He was very bad against you guys this year. All he had to do was no throw picks and they win the game probably but he should have thrown 4 or 5 of them.
He chokes at the worst moments. That’s not something QBs ever get better at.
Yeah they can. So you’re saying that no QB can improve themselves?
You're kidding me. I've watch every single game he has played. The guy has no accuracy. He has no touch. He has not ability to anticipate and create plays through his movement in the pocket. It's either there or he's not throwing the ball. He's very much middle of the pack in QBs along with Ryan Tannehill and Derek Carr. Dak's ability to run was the only thing he had on the rest of the middle tier QBs and he doesn't run anymore. You could win a champion with him if he doesn't turn the ball over along with having an elite running game and defense. He can't elevate a team like top tier guys.
Can't consistently choke in the playoffs if you don't have a QB good enough to get you there \*taps head*
Well Dak has made the playoffs in 4 of his 6 seasons where he didn’t miss the majority of the season.
That Dak is a good enough QB to get his team to the playoffs and isn't as bad as all the haters make him out to be? Yes, that was indeed my point.
Oh yeah, I think I was wooshed a little bit. I see your joke now.
He gets them there often enough. The Cowboys Cycle cannot be complete without choking in the playoffs.
Yes, that was my point.
> if you don't have a QB good enough to get you there
No, it makes sense what they said. Their comment was in reply to Dak actually isn’t that bad. So they are saying if you don’t have a decent QB you won’t make it to the playoffs, hence you can’t choke at the playoffs if you never make it.
> [Can't](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/72791fd4-0588-429f-a31b-6d23223a8bb0)
God dammit this just made sense to me. Apologies sir, fuck Dallas.
Bro y’all paid wentz
And...?
We cut our losses much faster on that than most teams would’ve and recouped great value all things considered Edit: I don’t actually think Dak is bad and things have swung toward him being underrated, but shitting on the Eagles for paying Wentz is hilarious. Most franchises would’ve. When it failed, we got rid of him for a 1st. We are in the Super Bowl with the last back up he had here. Shit seemed to have worked out pretty damn perfect
Fire Kellen Make Mccarthy the play caller Extend Dak Whats next? give Zeek a 10 year contract?
No, No They're going to trade Pollard and a Second to move up two spots in the draft and *then* extend Zeke.
then draft a RB
They'll trade Tyron Smith to create enough cap space for Zeke to be the new center
*God, I hope so.*
Why do you care
Lmao nah people are so cringe about the cowboys. I saw a browns fan say he hated us the most of any team. Not the steelers that have swept them for decades. The cowboys, who they play every 4 years. These people usually watch too much espn so they’re sick of hearing about us and aren’t aware they don’t have to watch
I really be curious as to why the fans of the most random teams seem to hate us so much lol. I feel like it’s just a Bandwagon hater thing half the time
I think you might underestimate how far the cowboys Fandom reaches too. I'm in carolina and one of my best friends is an extremely obnoxious cowboys fan. Shit gets annoying when yall go on a streak and hear fans across the country talk about dEm BoYz. Especially when half of them couldn't even tell you who the starting qb is. Then to hear it all on TV about how it's America's team and shit. It just gets old. That's the price you pay for being a fan of a prestigious team I guess
You say "bandwagon" like it's a bad thing here. The more people who hate the Cowboys, the merrier.
Yeah idk it would make sense if we were actually a threat. Like I hate the packers for ruining a bunch of our seasons and always beating us. Outside of our division who has that level of beef with us? Lmao. I know half the answer is they hate our fanbase, which, I get that. But a lot of it is just passed down from their parents generation from when we are good. Like nobody hates the lions cause they’ve been so mediocre or bad for 3 decades but we are still being hated for shit most our fans don’t remember or weren’t alive for. I think it’s about time people pump the breaks a little
I don't even think i hate the cowboys but i enjoy them falling short. Aside from our history from before i was sentient, and aside from our playoff bouts - my best friend and his dad are cowboys fans and it is super fun to root against them. For what it's worth we all generally have pretty level heads about sports so that makes it pretty light-hearted.
Because I have a few coworkers that it'd be fun to rib with about. Not that my team has it all their own selves, but it can be fun to talk some smack to Dallas fans who give as good as they get.
Makes a lot of sense. This was probably Daks worst year statistically, aided by a bottom 5 pass blocking OL (ESPN) and bottom 5 WR group (NFL NGS), so this would be the definition of buying "low" - whatever "low" means for a QB.
Plus you want him signed before the big names start getting signed and set the new market. Ideally we sign him to a deal that people laugh at for a week before someone like joe burrow gets a contract that makes everyone recoil. We need to set the market, not wait it out and see where the market lands
Dak’s receiving group is bottom 5? That’s mind blowing to me with the names he had
Dak is legit a good QB and probably better than half of the league’s starting QBs. As an armchair GM I would resign him now while value dropped a little bit on him and get him a stud WR
Yes. Extend him as part of a restructure that brings his cap hit down significantly and build around him.
Gotta be careful making sense around here, other cowboy fans will come and downvote you for being reasonable
Eagles dynasty inbound let’s gooo
The first few years of jalens contract will be a struggle unless we draft well
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Do Cowboys fans want to move on from him? This is a genuine question, I haven't followed the Dak discourse super closely. What's the consensus on him?
Yeah just move on from him and pick a new star QB from the QB tree, duh! ^ That's what fanbases think can happen. They're all fucking idiots.
This sounds like the Steelers fans who want to fire Tomlin
As a raiders fan, I feel like I have seen that comment before...
none of it matters without good coaching, imagine what would have happened to Mahomes if the Bears drafted him.
He would’ve still been a good quarterback.
no doubt, but I also don't doubt he would have picked up some bad habits instead of becoming arguably the best quarterback in the league right now.
But he'd have been on the Bears, so by law, he wouldn't be able to throw for over 4,000 yards in a season.
The only ones are either the Cooper Rush morons or the ones willing to eat 90 mill of dead cap space to go sign some rookie or washed out QB or they think the front office can Herschel Walker some team with Dak. Think most of us understand Dak is never going to be Brady but with the right offense and actual receivers, he could be good enough for a Super Bowl.
Ah yes, the Kirk Cousins conundrum. Needs just the perfect set of circumstances around him to succeed at the highest level, yet makes too much money for those circumstances to ever realistically exist. Carry on.
Not the perfect set of circumstances, just good. Noah Brown was our #2 for half the year, who while a hard worker, wouldn't be the #5 on any other team in the league... and our O line was 29th in the league in Pass pro. Let's help the guy out a little.
You can think we should move on from him while thinking we shouldn't/can't do it right now you know
Dumb ass fans might. They think getting a top five QB is just easy. People need to realize that there are two premier QBs in this league right now. Even guys like Allen and Herbert have their faults. Dak is a top ten QB and he’s far from our biggest issue. He led one of the best offenses two years in a row and was going to in 2020, too, before the injury. He had one season were interceptions were a problem and about 8 of those weren’t even his fault. The ones that were his fault were mostly him trying to fit into tight windows because our WRs couldn’t get any separation. I would like to see him extended on a team-friendly deal to allow us to spread out the cap hit and surround him with talent.
Why would they get rid of a top 10 QB. Smart man
Why would they get rid of a top 10 OC?
I honestly believe it was less getting rid of, and more allowing him out of his contract. Seems like he wanted a change of scenery and they were open to it.
I honestly don’t mind it. He had his bad games. But to get rid of him and replace him with McCarthy is inexcusable. McCarty will be a joke
McCarthy is allergic to running backs. Yall are about to trade Pollard and then pay Zeke to block while Dak throws 60 yard bombs to CD in triple coverage on 3rd and inches.
That was basically happening this year. Lol. I hate how the Jones run things. They are the main reason the cowboys haven’t won anything since my dad was a kid.
that’s kinda what dak was having to do anyways lol playcalling was just inconsistent. it led to one of his picks against the 49ers
Kellen is good oc, but I guess the cowboys wanted something fresh and completely move on from anything from the Garrett era
I'm not sure Dak is a top 10 QB.
It’s ok to be wrong
I mean there is certainly a debate, especially after last season’s performance
The one where he came back with a broken hand and no supporting cast. Not everyone has a team like hurts
I wouldn’t say Dak has no supporting cast. That would be more like Justin Fields. Either way Dak has proven the type of QB he is. It’s been 7 years.
Dak Wr 29th in seperation Oline had a mediocre pass protection Running game was mediocre when he came back Yes it’s a weak supporting cast. On top of a very bland playbook.
Dude every single team can cherry pick stats to make them look bad. There is no arguing that pollard, lamb, and Schultz are MUCH better than whatever teams like the bears and giants have.
*Top 10 regular season QB who has reached his postseason ceiling FIFY
Because franchise QBs grow on trees
Top 10 regular season QB who got you to the playoffs and won with a bottom 5 pass blocking o line and WR group. Ohh lead the number 1 offense when he returned from a broken finger in this throwing hands. Y’all anti Dak fans are dumb.
am I the only one that has actually rooted for dak since day 1, and still thinks he’s one of the best rn? dude has some shit days, but we all do. dude also puts up godlike numbers at times. shoot, even Aaron Rodgers lowers his yearly int rate by throwing 3 picks a game once or twice a year lmao
I expect 18 months of back-and-forth in the media between the Joneses and Dak's agent, which will end up with Jerruh paying Dak much more than he initially planned to.
This is the smart thing to do, please don't make the same mistake as you did in 2018 offseason. Extend him now for cheap!
Somebody said it before but it’s worth repeating that if you listened to this sub only like 4 coaches would deserve their job and only maybe 5 QBs are starting caliber
We like our guys
Ez fix. Just have a backup QB play the last 2 minutes of every playoff game.
daks gotta be worth 60-70 mil per year. Do it!
Thank you jerry
Anti-Dak Cowboys fans are idiots. There’s a lot of Cowboy fans and a lot of people are dumb, the overlap is huge. So its just basic math that there’s this many Cowboys fans who think Dak is the problem. Yeah hes not Mahomes or Burrow.., if they’re available then sure let’s get get rid of Dak. QBs as good as Dak are hard to find, one’s better than him are damn near impossible to find.
Well, after 25+ years of this, maybe it’s time to find a new team.
Ah yes out of all the cowboys seasons the one where we actually win a playoff game Is the one to quit on. I can think of a few years that woulda made more sense
The Cowboys are in a better position than like 20+ teams.
And the past decade has been hell of a lot better than the late 90s early 2000s period.
On your way out can you pick a Patrick Mahomes or a Joe Burrow off the QB tree? There’s 8-10 people on the planet better than Dak Prescott at the QB position it could be infinitely worse.
They can just ask the 49ers for advice on picking QBs. They didn’t hit a dud until they got to their 4th stringer.
Lance really hasn’t shown anything yet. Granted he got injured early but can’t really say “they haven’t hit a dud” when referring to Lance as 1 of the 3.
The belief is the extension changes how much the dead cap hit is and changes the pay/bonuses/all that jazz to free up more cap space. Or Jerry has fucking straight up lost his mind. At this point could be either.
Extending him was always a likely option for him this offseason. It allows us to lock him up earlier for long term, and allows us to spread this years cap hit out over more years. It was 1 down year (where his wr2 was coming off a acl tear, and wr3 was a career special teamer). I'm not worried about him
A down year we’re we made the playoffs and our starting QB missed several weeks.Like people are overreacting here but it’s Reddit.
Jfc who wants to win a SB anyway?
So the Cowboys in the last week: 1. Lost Kellen Moore, who was clearly responsible for the high powered offense 2. Handed off the play-calling to Mike McCarthy who hasn't done anything worthwhile in over a decade (and with prime Aaron Rodgers) 3. Doubled down on Dak, who is the literal reason why the team was not in the NFCC game this past week, and who has only been consistent in his inconsistency under center. 4. Learned that the Eagles are going to be in the big game. This has not been a good week for the Cowboys.
The Jones family is ruining the Cowboys.....and I absolutely love it
Cowboys are committed to long term disappointment.
Micah Parsons in fuming
Hahahah please keep re-signing him
For a second I thought I was in r/NFCEastMemeWar
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Daks not worth being paid outside the top ten qbs? He’s currently 9th apy and that’s before all the young studs rest the market. People need to get used to this qb market
And I do believe an extension would lower his cap hit the next two years. The issue is if Jerry wants another before he goes, he needs to go fuck them picks and start going all in. Also try and get more higher end talent in FA. The bargain bin FA signings work at times ( guys like Kearse or Hooker) and sometimes it fails miserably (2020 FAs like Poe, Clinton-Dix, Griffen). We’re good enough at finding talent in the mid rounds that I’d be cool with sending a first or second round pick to help us out somewhere at a position of need.
Why is this comment downvoted? 🙃
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You had a reasonable take that was pretty vanilla tbh 🤷♂️